Whilst these are utterly gorgeous cars, to say these will be as reliable as anything German is just as bad as saying they always break down.

I've always owned Alfa, and currently have a 5 yeah old MiTo 155. Fantastic car, but in those 5 years it's had a gearbox rebuild, battery failure, steering column failure, a new wishbone and front suspension mounts. Plus there's the horrific stone chipping from the red paint.

Again, they're fantastic cars, and I'd never own anything but an Alfa, but you need to be aware that these cars will need more TLC than a 3 series or a golf GTI.

Yawn. For the benefit of those who don't read the listing: "don't believe the lazy myths spouted by people who know nowt about cars; I've had a 156, a 159, and a Guilietta previously and they have been ultra reliable"

This car has an 85% satisfaction level at present in the Which? Car Survey.

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good idea.

I've seen your post on the forum; lets pick up the conversation there ;-)

Ok thanks, I went through carwow and been offered the car for £22199. Its over 30 months, cheap monthly payments but large deposit and final. I'm not bothered how I pay so long as interest free!

Whats your insurance like? I have a clean license and been driving for 29 yrs.

Also, this was for Alfa red, is that a nice colour do you think, I think it suits the dark wheels etc

My car was from the same dealer via drivethedeal. A quick heads up; print off a drivethedeal quote and take it with you as they are the dealer who will fulfill a drivethedeal quote if you went through drivethedeal. The dealers may well match the price directly with you.

The body kit is as in the picture on this thread; black plastic on the front lip, side skirts, and rear defuser, with carbon fibre on the spoiler and wing mirrors. The new Veloce has it all apart from the skirts and the front lip, which I think are the important bits looks wise!

I thought I'd miss the center arm rest (it wasn't an option on the QV) but I don't, but yeah, the dark 5 hole alloys are essential ;-)

Sounds good, I'm after a new car, only for short journeys and shopping etc, I live rural. When you google reviews its a mixed bag, I really like the look of the car compared to the golfs and the bm's, and I couldn't see myself in a hot hatch such as peouget, renault, seat etc, they look like boy racer cars done up.

I also want some power and sound for a bit of fun, hope I like the car when I see in the flesh, going to Derby, they have offered me 0% pcp and a discounted price, I really want him to throw in the dark alloys five holes and a centre arm rest, not sure what other options I need, not bothered about music system too much and the sunroof looks expensive as a freebie anyway. What is the body kit like? I think the standard car has a 'visibilty kit'.

Yeah, loving it. Its been in under warranty twice for a rattle in the door, but that's just me being very picky! It is a great tourer (did 380 miles to Dorset and back on Friday and it was a pleasure, though still only did 32mpg on a motorway journey!), but is also immense fun on the rural roads round here.

There is a little too much power through the front wheels at times if anything, but I do love the fact that apart from the cloverleaf there are no stupid "go faster" badges on it.

I do like the new Veloce, but its a shame they've removed the body kit as an optional extra as I really think it suited the car.

Enjoy!

How are you finding the new QV op?

Any good? any problems, I'm test driving the new Veloce which takes over from the QV.

True, I've done that very thing with my BMW as they're still semi compromised.I'd prefer a key tbh.

Hot hatches always get targeted. Smartest thing is to move/disable the OBD ports on most of them, especially cars with keyless start, then put a sticker in the window saying as such. Ever since I had a Focus and Ford basically were not telling RS/ST owners that their keyless system was ridiculously compromised (it's not just Ford, a bunch of manufacturers were) have I taken it upon myself to disable my OBD sockets on most cars with that kind of technology.

That's if your golf isn't stolen, they go missing at an alarming rate according to my traffic officer friend.

​Be careful he's the most agressive poster of alfas sorry I meant skips this site has ever seen.You my friend sound like someone who knows what he's on about rather then being all defensive and aggressive.Lets hope this deal goes cold due to the attitude of the poster. :smile:

Also hilariously chavvy and overpriced for being only FWD considering it's rivals at £30k+ are all 4WD or RWD....have to be pretty insane to buy the Type R over something like the M135i or the new Focus RS coming soon. If you;re bothered about 0-62 times (not that I am) then go and look at a Golf R with a DMS/Revo remap on it. If you're in a 2015 Porsche 911 Carrera S, expect to see the back of the Golf from traffic lights.

The number begins with a 3 and not a 5.

​Difference is out of thousands one has an issue as opposed to the other way round....

Lots of people keep carping on about Alfa and its supposed reliability issues, like its the only car maker with this problem. My sister bought two new Fords and both were back in the garage within 6 months due to major issues.

As I stated in my previous post, I had a MiTo for nearly four years and didn't have a single problem with it, not even anything minor.

Maybe a GTI killer but certainly not a Type R killer. Have been invited to test drive the new version, not the prettiest but is nippy with 0-60 in 5.7 secs and top speed of 167 mph.

Oh dear.... typical Alfa reliability at its best!

It's better than the S3. The S3's chassis is setup is too 'safe' it's rather numb like most Audis. The Golf is aimed much more at the driver. It's not like the Golf is horribly built in the first place, a few interior options you can afford before you hit base S3 price brings it up to par

Me too on the cheap lease, manual limestone grey. Not sure it's better than an S3, certainly not as nice a place to sit. Nowhere near as premium. If yours is quiet there's something wrong with it!!

The sexy twin luckily

What are you on?

calm down guys Alfa and the German cars like golfs BMW and Mercedes are all expensive to maintain and the same is starting to happen with the Japanese cars Toyota is becoming worse for reliability know not sure about Honda at the moment though haven't had much experience with the new ones

Withdrew most models? Fool. They only sell the mito and guiletta at the moment, unless you include the 4C. They have the Guilia coming out (suppose that doesn't exist to you).

Where is it cheaper? You can order Golf Rs with the DSG gearbox for about £28k. The Golf R is the better car too. They are siblings, but the Golf is much more playful. It's like the quiet but sexy twin when you get her alone, the Audi is the one that might seem more attractive, but going for a ride *ahem* is much worse in bed than you had expected

I'd rather have the ​audi s3. it's cheaper than the golf r

Yup tool....

TR6 you say? Didn't ship out any bits for refurb? Hardened all the valves yourself did you? Rebuilt the gearbox from scratch? Flowed the head in your shed? Got a certificate from Triumph Owners Club saying your TR6 is worth £150,000 but oddly can't get a decent price for it....

Yes a chimp can sell a car, however a chimp couldn't BUY and SELL over 20,000 and not know what to buy and what to avoid and more importantly what to pay to make a profit!

Still you love Alfa's and brag about a TR6, just hope I never get stuck talking to you at a dinner party because I don't think I could contain myself listening to all the crap you come out with.....

You haven't answered my question? A chimp can sell cars, and often does. It takes skill to rebuild a car. My current TR6? Rebuilt by myself. Off you go.

Ha ha ha? What?? How many cars have you bought and sold idiot? Come back to me when you're done well over 20,000!

BTW, that GT Coupe was sentenced to the block when the recon cost went past the £1500 mark n that was even before the progresser had got anywhere near to finishing the recon bill!

And btw yes I do know one end of a spanner from another which oddly makes me realise you are an absolute tool yourself....

Alright mate, whatever. How many cars have you rebuilt from a bare body? Come back to me later if you'd like.

​Fingers crossed they've still got a dealer network to sell em then eh?...

​Mate don't even go there, I've worked over 25 years in the motor trade.

Only 2 months ago I was helping a car transporter driver strap up a drivers door on a 10 plate PX GT that refused to latch to ship the pile of crap to auction!

Trade laugh at idiots like you!

Are you daft? The reason they drop through the floor is because of people like you who have watched a couple of episodes of Top Gear and think they are experts and parrot the myths that owners know not to be true. That means us Alfisti get fantastic cars at bargain price. Stick with your Ronnie the Rep car son and let the big boys play.....

Ps, which cars do you believe they withdrew ?!

​And yet values drop through the floor on everything you've owned hence why they give em away new!
It's no wonder why Alfa withdrew most models from the UK, their rep is terrible and it didn't happen by accident...[/quote]

Yeah, but you do know they are replacing them with 7 new models over the next few years, with the already announced Guilia coming soon

​And yet values drop through the floor on everything you've owned hence why they give em away new!

It's no wonder why Alfa withdrew most models from the UK, their rep is terrible and it didn't happen by accident...

Well I can only go on my personal experience with Alfa's. I had a MiTo nearly four years from new and never had a single problem with it, and really loved driving it. The only reason I got rid of it was it was starting to look a bit worn on the outside as someone had scrapped one of the wheel arches. Its replacement, a Guilietta Distincive which Ive had since April, and I'm really liking it so far. Its only a 1.4 but it can really move, particularly using the DNA Dynamic setting.

Its obvious from other owners comments that Alfa's have had their issues, but things seemed to have improved a lot lately, and if you want to stand out from an endless sea of Focus' and Fiestas, then this is a very stylish car.

​porsche is really 38th?? Never had any issues with mine

I'll give you that; if you get a bad one you'll get a BAD one ;-)

That's what I'm saying, older models depreciated like a stone, I got a mint 5 year old executive car that cost £24k new for £5300; bargain!

​I'm sorry but that deprecation on your 159 is pretty horrific inmho

Well actually I have and have owned two for about three months (second hand) not my decision the misses wanted one, had various electrical, mechanical problems. Maybe it was just our bad luck or Arthur Daly sold a bad one, like I said they are like marmite love em or hate em. They are great cars to drive but reliability is/was a problem. I am not saying German cars are faultless, they do have problems all their own, my experience is a much happier affair with German cars. I currently have a Japanese car many over the years and again its trouble free. My experience with Alfa is my own yours is your, heck OP ive even given you some heat for the deal as I am sure the die hards will love it.

My own experience is wide I have driven or owned just about every make going and French and Italian cars in my opinion are my least pleasurable driving experiences.

Don't let stupidity bother you. Alfa's are good to look at for a reason (idiots don't drive them).

Whilst these are utterly gorgeous cars, to say these will be as reliable as anything German is just as bad as saying they always break down.

I've always owned Alfa, and currently have a 5 yeah old MiTo 155. Fantastic car, but in those 5 years it's had a gearbox rebuild, battery failure, steering column failure, a new wishbone and front suspension mounts. Plus there's the horrific stone chipping from the red paint.

Again, they're fantastic cars, and I'd never own anything but an Alfa, but you need to be aware that these cars will need more TLC than a 3 series or a golf GTI.

I really don't understand why you seem to ignore the experiences of someone who has lived with 3 Alfas as daily drivers for over 6 years and had zero reliability problems (literally NEVER broken down in one) in favour of your own belief that reliability is "shocking", despite you clearly never having owned one? It is a very odd approach I must say.

In the market for a new car next year, Leon Cupra 280 looking like the winner. So wanted to like this car but poor reviews.

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​Nasty man your comments are quite aggressive just for that I'll vote cold and so will my partner.Enjoy :wink:

​Pipe down little man its not fault you constantly buy junk cars.Save up and buy something decent.Just because you've got it wrong don't get excited and attack other people's opinions.

Can't see you being this clear earlier - but thanks for clarifying

That's an important point. Which does proper surveys, and is truly independent. No adverts of manufacturer pressure.

Those INVECS-II auto FTOs are very very slow and power sapping compared to the manuals though. It's not a good gearbox really. There are a lot of them converted to manuals for a reason.

As for this Alfa, it's a gorgeous looking car, but it's pretty poor really. That gearbox is acceptable albeit nothing like as good as the VAG DSG, but the ride and handling are pretty atrocious.

forgot to mention you'll spend most of your time in a lay by or garage most weeks.Italian so bound to go wrong. :laughing:

I've got an FTO from 1994 where the auto box learns your driving style, has to be primitive compared to this one, but the tech has been around for quite a long time now.

Buy a bmw with your head.
Buy an alpha with your heart.

If you don't understand then it's just not for you.

Totally agree - that's a very valid point. Bigger, more expensive cars have more to go wrong and the cost of replacement parts is going to be higher as a result. So manufacturers making mainly small, cheap cars will look better on that table than the likes of Bentley, who are the other extreme. It would be nice to be able to get different reports out of the raw data that WarrantyDirect must hold.

Had Alfa's and Fiats for ever, few years ago got a top end new VW, never had a car with so many faults and trim fall off, arrogant dealers and it just broke down in France coming home from a two week holiday....and its still there - people need to stick to the facts, the German brands, and not the best of choice, however sadly for me Alfa don't currently make a car to fit my needs, so either about to buy a BMW or Land Rover seven seater

So follow the masses or chose the style and fun of an Alfa - if I could I would, they are such special feel good cars, now with first class dealers.

outside my budget. but would love to try one.

I've had 2 alfas my old 156 1.6 was great. only minor issues but needed looking after and serviced on time. the mpg was incredible, was getting better than the specified mpg!!! around 40mpg!!!

my current car, 159ti 2.4d has been a huge pain. huge repair bills each year. the only thing stopping me selling is it's poor condition! and that it looks sooo good...

I was responding to zombies comment. Hard though it may be for you to comprehend, this thread isn't all about you. You are rude and patronizing and seem unable to accept anyone else's opinion. Welcome to my ignore list.

Lovely car .... only thing with this (and Alfa generally bar 8c and 4c) is the serious depreciation hit.

Hot deal tho.

0-60 in three electrical faults!

Sigh. For the hard of reading here it is again (READ THE BL**DY THREAD!!!). The above quoted site is so out of date it is untrue. It doesn't even list Mito or Guilietta, and the figures quoted are based on cars that they haven't made for years. The most recent car listed (the 159) has been out of production nearly 4 years! These figures are meaningless. The Which? Magazine satisfaction survey gives the Giulietta 85%; higher than the overall BMW driver satisfaction..............

The trouble with that list is that it "takes into account all factors of a repair, the cost of the parts and the frequency of failures"

The Bentley/Porsche/Land Rover will have expensive parts. (in fact from 32-39 all have expensive parts)

It would be good to see the data for number of failures / # of cars on the road or by miles covered for example.

Lexus is the only "premium" brand in the top 20 (and they are very Toyota-ey underneath)

Yawn. For the benefit of those who don't read the listing: "don't believe the lazy myths spouted by people who know nowt about cars; I've had a 156, a 159, and a Guilietta previously and they have been ultra reliable"

This car has an 85% satisfaction level at present in the Which? Car Survey.

Poor Bentley owners (except they're not poor)...good job Jeeves will be there to take care of things...:laughing:

for those who question reliability.

check out warranty direct stats
the 2nd most unreliable car (warranty claims) after MG cars is Audi

most cars I see by the roadside are audi or vw but that could be down to popularity too.
still. ........

only an idiot would pay money for a car made by Italians or French. worst manufacturers in the world.

It isn't just after sales; I struggled to find one who even seemed interested in selling me a car until I found this deal!

Alfa Romeo is a car to own forever, as you won't be able to sell it for a good price :smile:

i am driving an Alfa Romeo for 3 years now with 0% breakdown.

the most break down i ever saw parked daily on hard shoulders now and again are BMW where i am not against BMW, just a fact unfortunately. if you want to pay for the badge, sure its good for you.

not bmw audi or mercedes cold

True, as seen on here! It's something they need to deal with quickly, because this 512bhp monster goes on sale in less than a year for £50k+, and (with the lower spec versions) they are gunning for a sizeable chunk of the Ronnie the Executive Rep market who currently drive around in their millions in identical BMWs, Audis, and Mercs........

http://www.alfaromeo.co.uk/uk/models/giulia

Golf's have pretty great residuals....and the Golf R especially so. Alfa's do not - it's just too hard to shake their reputation no matter how deserved or not it is now.

awesome car...brilliant price...

I prefer the version in red:

whilst I wouldn't never buy a Alfa , I do however admire your passion for them ,and for that I applaud you !!!

Nice. I hired a Guiletta with that engine in Italy a couple of years ago. Was great driving through the Alps, nice to drive, but after 10,000 kms, the clutch was starting to slip. Other than that, surprisingly practical, carted the family around with ease, and smile-making to drive

Cool car and cool user name aureol40012, long live the class 40

Why is that an "honest" review, based on the experience of owning one Alfa, whereas mine, based on owning 3 and about to buy my 4th, isn't? Oh, and you show yourself to simply be parroting lazy stereotypes; care to explain which Fiat you believe the brand new Giulia to actually be?!

What a beautiful car.

after my 147 I promised myself never to buy another Alfa ...beautiful looking car but stuff was always going wrong and costing me a fortune ...makes sense as a company car or as a lease when you can hand it back when the warranty runs out

That page you link to, the newest Alfa it is based on is the 159 which has been out of production for nearly 4 years; it doesn't even take mito and Giulietta reliability into account. You may as well compare a BMW Mini with a BL one!

OP, please clarify the deposit and ongoing monthly payment values.

Lovely looking cars... but reviews aren't that amazing really.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/alfa-romeo/giulietta/87371/alfa-romeo-giulietta-quadrifoglio-verde

And as for reliability...
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

Still, if someone else was paying for repairs, I'd have one.

Love my old 155 2.0 twin spark, wonderful to drive but very glad it was a company car are maintenance was covered. Things may have changed now though.

These cars seem to do very well in holding their value compared to older Alfas (my £24k when new 159 cost me £5,300 five years later!); the cheapest (by far) used QV on AutoTrader at the moment is £20k with 3,000 miles on the clock, with most of the rest being listed at considerably more than this new car deal!

Sorry you've been unlucky with yours, though I feel the pain with red paint and stone chips! My 2011 Guiletta has literally cost me £0 in terms of maintenance/repairs in the 9 months I've owned it. My 159 needed £350 services as scheduled, and brake discs, pads, and an alternator in 2.5 years. My 156 needed a radiator, and suspension arms in a similar time period. With Alfa launching the £50k Giulia in less than a year as a BMW competing executive company car alternative it can't afford to build unreliable cars.

TBH those are the exact options i would have gone for as well although may have settled for the alcantara mix. Good points though. Think it comes down to how much value you put on the Alfa badge and external looks. I am considering the R but the looks don't inspire that much. Residuals should be better though.

Plus don't forget £3k of options just to get, paint, leather seats and bose sound and xenons never met mind the £900 for an extra trim upgrade.

I believe they were comparing to Golf / Leon handling characteristics. Can you counter with a positive review from a reputable review site? What car and Autocar arent at all glowing.

[quoteHigh-performance Giulietta gets the 4C's powertrain in a bid to boost its appeal, but the net result still leaves a lot to be desired][/quote]
Do agree it is a great looking car externally and I would rather have an Alfa than most other marques. The discount and the free finance are positives.

Gorgeous car. Used to have a 3L 75. Ate clutches like tictacs. Still loved that handbrake though...

The TCT gearbox "learns" your driving style, and users on the alfa forum report that after a couple of weeks of driving a new car with it fitted it changes up/down to suit you driving much better. The box itself is pretty amazing technologically, and it has launch control for extra fun! As for the ride, well, its a sports car, you don't buy it for gliding over bumps, and the Giulietta handling has never let me down when I've been pushing the car towards, but not beyond, its limits.

I'm paying £303 a month for 47 months with a final payment of £6,800 to keep the car. £4k deposit.

Would love one of these. Owned a 159 in the past, brilliant cars.

As a matter of interest, does anybody have an example of how the 4 year pcp deal pans out?

Ta OP. Voted hot.

Buy plenty of reading material for the long waits at the dealership getting it fixed!

Try this: https://www.drivethedeal.com/buy-a-new-car/ALFA%20ROMEO/GIULIETTA%20HATCHBACK/index.html

Ps, make sure you ask them to honour the current 0% deal offered at dealerships ;-)