So much car for the money, hot!

superb. hot hot deal.

Audi S8 - 1998 - 142,000 miles on the clock.

Beautiful interior:



Enjoy.

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thats a lot of very nice brand new car for £580 month

heat added. drive it for two years and then dump it back to lease company.

Incredible deal! 15k would suit me better though but not bad

Would be nice to have that sort of disposable income, but replacing the tires on 20s would be expensive enough for me, never mind repair and service costs. Seems like a decent deal though. Heat added.

After owning a mercedes and Audi i know own a japanese motor - so far so good - german vehicles are not what they used to be.

Exactly why I wouldn't even remotely consider buying one new....losing nigh on £35k in one year ain't exactly top of the pops!

まあ、ズボンをSmartyのあなたのためのいじめ！

​utter garbage. of 60 models there was a problem with one engine that was sold for about 2 years. look at the big recalls and problems with other manufacturers that are far far worse. ford recalled 1.4 million cars, Toyota recalled even more, same with Honda, vauxhall, etc. vauxhall famous problem where the handbrake didn't work lol

Same engine as the RS6/RS7 though. Also, despite it having 520hp (opposed to the 560-ish in the RS models), a lot of reviewers reckon Audi are being conservative with the performance figures.

Does about 35 miles per gallon. That's gallons of engine oil, not fuel!

For an 81k car it looks pretty ordinary if I'm honest.
Not sure I'd fork out that much a month for something that looks like a lot of other cars on the M25 car park.

Audi drivers are such chavs these days. If some tattooed **** with highlighted hair and an earing is tail-gaiting you they will be in an Audi.
I'd be embarrassed to drive one.
(And yes I've owned one, but before the chav scum descended on them)

​"..this kid's from texas, i don't even know if i have a licence. i ride a horse down there for christ's sakes ..."

very cheap.

They will be thrashed round Bradford like all the AMG 63s with no consideration of any other road users ...I see this every day!!!! The cars should have some kind of tracker on them to stop the disrespect of hire cars specially these top end cars

superb deal. an s3 costs this much

Dont forget your personalised number plates

hawt

Nobody would have to pay list for this but still a good deal

More likely sat on the hard shoulder in front of a car with blue lights, being reprimanded by a bobby after doing 110mph on the A1.

Look, if an AA caught you jerking off whilst waiting for recovery don't hold it against this deal!

Great value for the car! Well worth the money

The title doesn't suggest anything about leasing/having to give the car back... a bit misleading. So it's £13,993 to lease for 2 years?

Audis are crap! They are just a posh mans Volkswagen/skoda. BMW and Mercedes do it so much better. That new S class though is an engineering triumph…

2 A3's 2 S3's and RS3 on order no issues at all and great customer service! Maybe I'm just lucky

Great deal. However I would lose my licence within a month or si.!

You can get about £25k off the list price through Drive the Deal.

She needed some good legal advice. No way that she should've been liable to pay more than the PCP monthly payments for the time she owned the car and then have Audi UK replace like-for-like at no extra cost. If she bought outright then a fair depreciation cost would've been the equivalent monthly payments for an example PCP agreement, minus the interest component of said payment. Yes a car gets hit with a big lump of depreciation immediately, but it is the slew of faults on the car that is making her ditch it early.

She rolled over far too easily.

to me its cold simply because there is no road in this country where you will be able to fully utilise the power of this car...

Audi are fast acquiring the same reputation as Jaguar did in the '60s. Powerful, sleek, sexy, highly technically advanced and reassuringly expensive...but basically unreliable tat that spends far too long in the garage being fixed.

And even then it's a great lease deal as you'll still likely lose more than 14k in depreciation.

do you actually want to pay for a giant advertisement letting everyone know your a complete t****r

Who would buy this at the original price £80k, surely much more attractive cars out there at that price. Even if I was a die hard Audi fan and could afford £80k, I'd save up a bit more and get an R8.

"my mother always used to say this is too much car for me to handle...."

cold! don't like these leáse deals one bit

Does it come with cooling leather seats along with heated ?

Otherwise ill have give it a miss

Good advice, (if you are a lottery winner and have lots of cash on the hip!)

Sorry, but despite being a Diesel owner for all of my adult life, I wouldn't touch a modern one with a barge pole!. The reason?, well....

Mainly Diesel Particulate Filters, these are flaky technology at best, where in the UK can you drive at a steady speed for up to 25 minutes for the damn thing to regenerate on a regular basis without hitting some kind of traffic jam, speed restriction or roadworks?, if you don't / can't do these types of journeys religiously every couple of weeks or if you make lots of short trips (under 10 miles) or journeys in heavy stop-start traffic then they eventually block up, costing you around £400 and a day with the car off the road to be professionally cleaned. If they fail altogether (which they do), then its up to a £2000 bill for a replacement. You can't even remove them anymore, despite what the uninformed may tell you, because (a) Since March 2014 removing a DPF is now an MOT failure and (b) making these modifications will potentially leave you uninsured / open to prosecution under the construction and use regulations if discovered by an accident investigator / DVLA. If the worst happens, then your insurer can void your insurance and claw back all of their out of Third Party pay outs which they have made from you in the event of an accident. Even if you take the risk of a nasty conviction and increased insurance premiums and go ahead and cheerfully remove the DPF, the Government are already planning on pushing ahead for European style OBD diagnostics to be part of the MOT test as soon as is realistically possible, so you won't be able to hide the fact the DPF has been removed soon, because they WILL scan the ECU looking for modified or missing files. (So if you have removed the DPF on a car, you are on borrowed time, you will be paying silly money to get a new one fitted in the next few years, because the MOT will be scanning the ECU and yes the technology to do this is already in use in Germany and several other Countries, we just need to harmonise and incorporate it, and roll out the extra equipment to test centres). Its in the Governments' interest to push ahead with this, because changing the emissions (by removing the DPF) can drastically change its emissions classification and so void any RFL reduction or discount! - so there is their incentive.

DPF's are considered throughout the industry to be consumables and largely also NOT covered under the manufacturers or Aftermarket warranties, largely because driving style plays a big part in their life cycle. Check the terms / read the manual / ask the dealer if in doubt (and get it in writing), but i'm 100% sure that if you do, then you'll make me right on that fact.

If you buy a second hand diesel, you have no way of knowing how the previous owner has driven it, they may have done nothing but school runs and short trips to the shops, and you could inherit a problem child, potentially needing expensive work on its DPF sometime in the near future. Also bear in mind that a DPF reaches the end of its service life at between 90k and 120k miles on ANY car as its a consumable item with a service interval (just like a cambelt), so buy a high mileage car at your peril - as you may have a routine £2k service cost on the horizon, when the odometer ticks around and you have fit a brand new DPF because the original has reached the end of its service life!, suddenly that late high mileage car, isn't the bargain it appeared to be!. This can of course, also drastically reduce the saleability and value of your own car as it gets older, after all who wants to buy a second hand car with 80k or 90k on the clock, knowing there is a £2k service bill approaching?. You will be letting it go for peanuts, when the potential buyer insists you either replace the DPF before sale, or reduce its price accordingly.

Diesels are not the reliable workhorse they used to be, and the rot set in since they started bolting the anti emissions crap onto them. Just look at ANY owners' forum for proof, Swirl Flaps, EGR Valves, Emission Sensors, DPF's all fitted to reduce emissions and all are proving to be problematic and expensive on both budget and premium cars. Add into the mix Turbo and Dual Mass flywheel failures at quite low mileages and suddenly petrol becomes more attractive - and you can buy a lot of petrol for the potential repair costs of the items i've mentioned above - £2000 for a DPF, upto £1200 for a Flywheel, £1000+ for a Turbo Failure, a complete New Engine for a Swirl flap ingestion. I think i've just covered about 8 years worth of average petrol costs just in that list, and i've not even got to the cost of replacing injectors or a common rail injection pump.

And don't buy a 5.0 TDI either, if it needs any major engine work, its an engine out job, and for that they have to lift the chassis off the engine to get to the major parts. So that's 9 hours labour, before the garage even look at the engine or work on the problem.

Old School diesels - not a problem. Taxi's still get 500k + miles on the same injectors, turbo's etc on older diesels like VW's and Audi's and even 2.2DTI vectra's however try and find a 2008+ car with that type of mileage on it, in fact try and find one which reached 200k without having to have £1000's spent on either new Injectors, Fuel Pumps, Turbos, Flywheels, EGR's etc. I bet they are fewer and further between than the old diesels!.

Finally, its very likely that if the EU gets their way (and why wouldn't they because Dave's balls are in a jar next to Merkel's bedside table) that we will follow Paris' example and ban all diesels which aren't Euro 6 from our City Centres, so if you live or visit anywhere like Manchester, London, Sheffield etc then you won't be using a car made before EU6 anyway.

Enough Said!.

Wow, I'm more interested in that 4 year old price :smile: Time to start saving!

comes with left and right I think

But it's not quite like that is it?
The excessive oil consumption problem was common to both the 1.8 and the 2.0 litre TFSI engines and the problem, to varying degrees lasted four, not two years. Also the VAG 1.4 TSI had problems with piston failures. This is not to forget problems with duff PCV values, timing chains that jump, intake systems that coke up and fuel injectors that leak fuel into their cylinders when the engine is turned off! All of this is well documented on the many Audi forums. And whilst I would agree that Audi are now stepping up and fixing these problems for free, in the past they have behaved abysmally telling owners whose cars were out of warranty that they needed to fork out £12k from their own pocket for a new engine! Not quite the same as a hand brake recall is it?

Ownership is overrated and its about time these people got that, find them in all the lease deals. I wonder what drinkers own after spending most of their wages on intoxicants lol

Haha, called the 'Obey Tailgate' as opposed to 'Audi A8' on GTA V... Chuckle every time I see one now.

Amazing car, great deal. Gonna sell my 2 year old A6 will cover this and I'll get some change on top. Would they just allow me to pay cash for the full lease term?

Whats the charges on going over the annual milege?

Also A8s are more for people with drivers, are these a bit more nimble?

Great deal. Nice to see the usual moaners wh probably own dacia renault citroen or some other pile of scrap. Every car has faults but at least audis arent made of paper mache like the french motors

Duplicate ID methinks

Wow! Hope this is about in about 3 months once my house has gone through

Excellent price! Shame this has come up twelve months too early. My other director just ordered an a6 all road and I'm sure he's paying just £100 a month less than this. Will have to email it him in a Jim Bowen voice 'look what you cudda won'

Say it man. Modern Audi/VW brand is rubbish!! Had my fair share of problems with both brands. Sticking to Jap now. Plus the dealers seem so much more helpful and not stuck up their own ****. What makes me laugh is that the people who work at Vw/audi garages think they are above you.

Off subject but anyone know what the new peugeot exec vehicle is? caught a glimpse of one on eastenders last night.

Hope this about in 8 years when my mortgage is over.

Hawt!

If you can't afford the maintaince and upkeep don't get the car. Too many people fail to recognise true running costs of such cars.

Other companies have done similarly in the past - BMW 2.0D units frequently had swirl flaps dropping off and wrecking the turbo just out of warranty around 7 years ago.

All the big makes have issues from time to time, even the "ultra reliable" Japanese marques: Your text here

One thing is for sure, here in the UK we get royally screwed on warranty. The yanks get 8 year power-train warranties, free metallic paint and have lemon laws to protect the consumer. We in the UK are limited in our protection against poor cars.

what a useless post for 99% of users.

Then an RS8 drives pass

Interior and exterior walkthrough,

youtube.com/wat…F6c

Thats a really informed sounding opinion...owned a few have you

So.13,315* people will find it useful. That's 13,314 more than most Tesco deals.

* Total HUKD Members:
1,331,584

Top spec so the full suite of things that can, and will, go wrong!

That looks postively crap.

Amazing deal taking the depression into account. If I was lucky enough to be in a position to sink 81k into a car, it would probably be a used super car, however not to everyone's tastes. Great saving if you were about to pull the trigger on one. Still with the £14k cost of leasing that awesome piece of machinery for 2 years and having to give it back, I'm sure I'd enjoy my money more spending it in 20 year old prostitutes

Heat added

No thats oddballjamie. :face_with_monocle:

But you don't own it, they'll go wrong when you give it back, what's wrong with you?

I could afford this car but for me its basically like renting a house. for the money I'd trade in current car and have a luxury vehicle that I'd own. buy to keep.

All cars have problems and will always have problems. You cannot find single model which will be perfect. That is the fact. And that is same with mobile phones, Tv's and pretty much everything else.
As for Japanese cars - they might be bit more reliable than all the others, but god they look awful. There is only one recent model from Japan which looks good and that is GTR - others are ugly boring boxes IMHO. But we have billion of different people and we all love different stuff.
If you have income then there is much worse you can do than jump on this deal - there are few cars who can do what S8 can - none of them can do it for this money. HOT

Says the person who posted a pair of trousers for 4p at Tesco...oO

The site lists BOSE sound system etc as optional extras. Have you listed it as standard?

Owned lots of Audi's over the past 12 years and this is one fantastic deal! The new A8/S8 won't be out for another 2 years, amazing deal!

Please do take care as some of those rent boys carry infectious diseases....

...and another £480 per month insurance, I imagine oO

Had various Audi 's over last 10 yrs without issue so can't agree with this and these cars are the best for the money considering Kia can set u back £20k + ! But appreciate that not everyone has the same car experience regardless of manufacture.

just ordered 3 of them. really good offer. heat added.

It's standard.

See here: http://www.audi.co.uk/new-cars/a8/s8.html

Under 'audio and communication' you'll see: 'BOSE® surround sound system'.

Hmm.. This or a used porsche 911?

Lease deals just make SO much sense...I'd been looking at this on a few of the lease sites since Wednesday...decided to go for a similar deal on an S7, I do love the S8 but think it looks, dare I say it....a little "old man-ish" :p.

The amount of people I know who will LOSE this amount of dosh or not far off in depreciation after BUYING a new car(think Mondeo....320d...Passat), to then go back to a main dealer and get bent right over after 24 months anyway....repeat.

Not everyone wants to own a well specced , subtle performance car, but when its financially viable and you like nice cars then why on earth not? Everyone is different and everyone has different values and perspectives. No one should be lambasted for how they choose to spend their cash because it's not the way YOU would spend it. The smiles per mile factor on this car will be off the charts!

I'm 27 with 3 points and my insurance is only 500 for the year!

The £640+290 first and following year road tax are included in the price of my lease(and most lease deals). When I go over the allowance I'll be paying 10.8p for every mile. ...a extra 1080 over 2 years for 10k over? I think that's perfectly reasonable!

The worst comments are the ones where people say "these lease deals are for people who can't afford to buy the car". You what? Actually they're for anyone who likes their cars and can afford this, but would rather not pee another 20k away on depreciation = money savvy = HUKD! I love this site, I've used it to find deals on TVs, towels, chocolates, clothes, home appliances...and prestige cars. Another bugbear of mine is the "people who can afford this kinda car don't need to use HUKD"....utter nonsense, maybe it's because people are so savvy with their hard earned cash that they can afford this kinda car.

When I hand this over I don't have to worry about getting bent over by a dealer, I'll be trawling the sites looking for the best lease deals to replace it (or buy an APPRECIATING 996 shape 911Turbo;)).

Fantastic deal for a 520bhp executive saloon with REAL supercar performance.

4.1 0-60? YES PLEASE :D:D

This deal is cheaper at Solent Vehicle Leasing (and was cheaper at CentralUk although banned from hukd) if you can get the doc fee waived and take out a 5k deal then just pay the 9p+VAT excess mileage- works out at 13788. Please note, you're almost always cheaper taking the low 5k/8k special deals and paying the excess up to 10k rather than taking a 10k mileage deal. Do the calculation...could save yourself a few hundred quid or more - also note on lesser VAG cars the excess is usually 6p+VAT. According to the lease companies "Anything that's VAG and above a Touareg in the range will attract the higher 9p+VAT Per excess mile charge"

Money Savvy....:{

I think the lease site should reflect that

I bet that joke was made up by some balding father-of-three hogging fast lane at 67mph in his 7 seater. :wink:

One quick limo

My idea of fun isn't spending £600 per month to sit on the hard shoulder waiting for brightly coloured vans with orange flashing lights on the roof - if that's your hobby, no probs, enjoy.

No such thing. This is the top of the 8's

You literally joined the site to post that, superb. Audi rep? :wink:

It's under Fleet Price's list of optional extras but next to 'BOSE sound system' it says 'no cost'.

car this size i'd go diesel. It's good for people like Jason Statham

How can this be considered a good deal? Spend £14k over two years and at the end of it you have . . . Nothing! Other than a very large bill for any damage and excess mileage.

Seems to me that the real cost of new cars is reflected in the lease cost and not the sticker price. Is there anybody out there that would pay anywhere near the sticker price if it's their own money? Over 2 years a car in this class would lose somewhere around a quarter to a third of it's new price (over 3 years it's nearly always been about half value), so that would put this car's realistic new cost at somewhere between 42-56k - vastly less than the sticker price.

£12,995 for this baby right here
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I suppose that depends on how old you are :wink:

Wow £25000 depreciation in first year, crazy. Not a bad deal on the whole. Heat OP.

In a recent US class action, 126,000 disgruntled owners successfully sued Audi to fix their duff motors. But like you say, everyone's experience is different..

I have had an Audi A4 from new for 5 years and my brother in law has an 09 one never gave any bother - just regular service items - love the drive and quality!

If anyone thinks I'm being particularly beastly to The Hun, here's just one of many examples I can point to...
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If it wasn't for Audi keeping the demand for engine oil up the petrochemical industry would be on its knees. Needs two filler caps so you can add a litre of fully synthetic oil every time you fill up!

​****! This isn't a RS. Surprising cheap to run once you take deprecation out of the equation.

Does this Audi come with indicators?

5th line of OP.

Welcome to HUKD.

I'd rather push my Alfa ...

Regardless of the car and deal, you will get crap service from this broker. Avoid.

don`t worry internet has not arrived at croydon yet

Cheaper from my local butcher

Care to post a deál then?

​Yes because Jap cars are bullet proof...

Clueless!

so are Audi's not that good then these days.

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Watch out - everyone can see your postcode from the link CR9 ... A disgruntled hukd member that had just signed for this ridiculous car!

​Drive one then! They are far from ordinary.

If that's the car you are after then it's a pretty good deal so voted hot.

I recently 'downgraded' my somewhat expensive to run top spec Audio A6 that I only used to travel to work for a run of the mill puddle jumper. People are overly interested in looking like they are successful so waste money on a car that most likely will only be used to get from A to B and not be used for long Sunday drives on some windy's.

Save your hard earned cash and enjoy your life on things that actually matter. Well that's what I've recently realised. Each to their own of course.

or this for £20k :smile:
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buy this car brand new and sell it two years later for a new 2017 plate you're going to lose a lot more than the 14K their asking for

I have £3000 - could anyone extend the depreciation graph a little ?

This is a great example of how leasing can be really positive. I know it's not for everyone, particularly if you do high mileage or player bangernomics, but if you buy a new, even a nearly new car.

I don't buy the 45k value after year 1 though. This one, for instance, is £58k and it's a year old (albeit with only 7.7k)
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It appears it's more likely to be worth £45k after year 2
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which kind of implies that it still loses nearly as much in year 2 as you pay for the entire life of the lease!

​Really Emma? Yet to see one thrashed around those parts yet! They prefer A3's....

​says the vauxhall plank who doesn't indicate

Good deal to go with the Good Year 205/55/R16 tyres :stuck_out_tongue:

Yes, but as I said, the title.

Between mercedes bmw and audi, guess who takes the lead in most breakdowns? Yes you have it right it is indeed audi.
For the record I only drive Japanese cars

More than my mortgage but going to go for it

​Pahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa.....

Listen I'm not your mother, I'm your partner (fellow HKUD member who also has the same taste in movies).
Buy the car! DHOO IT!!! Yeah.... DHOOO IT!!! :sunglasses:

I'm thinking Ronin. :smile:

I guess you don't understand leasing. Read the thread, it explains it well.



It's not always about what you have at the end, think about what you enjoyed during the term.



Most people thinking about a car like this, probably don't need to worry too much about excess mileage costs.

What site is this taken from please ?

​Not funny. Smug idiot.

There are enough clues there to indicate that this is a lease/PCH - the mileage allowance, the monthly payments and finally, the price.

Add to that the description in the opening post and further information when you click 'get deal' link.

What Car.

Just don't go driving around thinking you're Jason Statham in The Transporter 8).

Have you ever been on holiday?

Just bear in mind that the cars for sale there would have been bought/part-exchanged for a lot less than the advertised price.

For example, WBAC values the S8 (reg beginning ND62) at £38.5k with 20,000 miles on the clock. If you change the mileage to 28,000 (which is what the car is currently on), then the valuation drops to £36.7k.

Rather than having to click 'Get deal' for every item posted on HUKD it's handy to have all the important info in the title. Cheers. (E.g. 24 month lease)

It's one of the buildings that Direct Line used to own back in the days. So it's fine. Thanks for the heads up though as I did make this mistake on another forum about 10yrs back :smile:

what a crap post. it's a hot deal for leasing a car of this value over 2 years. Just because it doesn't suit you doesn't make it a bad deal.

Super hot from me.

Ta.

I know exactly what your talking about because I know some of them that do it. It's not just C63 AMGs it's Quads, Bentleys, Range rovers, Porsches etc

There must be seriously something wrong of you if you choose an Audi over a BMW or Merc. BMW have the best performance and driving dynamics and Mercedes have the most luxury features but Audis are just glorified VWs and all Audis look the same!!!

I do so admire you taxi drivers. You're doing a marvellous job. I see you wrote your comment at 3:50 am. Is that when your shift finished??

More than you, yes! And they a crap!

Always go for the lowest mileage = £££ savings......The only time you ever have to pay if you go over the contract mileage is.....i/ you keep the car till end of contract as agreed and hand it back.

If you decide to keep the car you will receive it on a much better deal than its actual worth OR hand it back before the end of the contract BUT at least half way through the agreement. You are then not penalised for using over agreed mileage.

You be embarrassed for yourself, for me it's none of my business what some one else's thinks about me, and I like it that way and drive whatever car I feel like. I find it's a lot better than wasting time being condescending. Also if chav scum as you call them can afford to drive this car, then they've earnt the right to do so, I'm sure they're having a great time and you won't find them being bitter losers posting on a deal forum.

nawwww, the only paupers are the ones who have to buy lease cars to keep up with the joneses, because they cant afford to buy them outright or even afford to cobble together a few grand for a second hand car.

As the saying goes, if you want to go into the desert take a land-rover. If you want to come back out again take a Toyota.

You can have both with this deal. £80k on the buy to let, use the rent to cover the lease payments.

£7k per year for a car is too much money

Seemed like a perfectly valid comment to me, and then you have to be a sarky **** because you didn't like it. Muppet.

35K of depreciation in a year, damn.

Lovely price on the lease though!

Paupers who have realised this is only a good deal if you use a CAR ALLOWANCE that is paid by your company, because after two years or whenever YOU NEVER ACTUALLY OWN IT. I always say money doesn't mean you have style or brains, so to normal people this is a waste and you might as well BUY a car for 13k after two years of savings.

Says who? Surely this is 100% relative to someone's income isn't it? Such a silly statement. Yes £7,000 a year for a car for someone that earns £20k is very silly. However, £7,000 a year for a car for someone that earns £100,000 is perfectly reasonable, especially when said car is worth £81k. Basic maths my friend.

LOL not exactly the same car I know, but my Ford S Max was like that. Could drive from one end of the country to the other and still jump out feeling fine. Makes a huge difference if you spend a lot of time in a car.

Hello all, this deal seems almost too good to be true! I have a question which I've googled but can't find a conclusive answer... How does the lease company make money on a deal such as this where the depreciation is so high compared to the leasing cost. I realise they wont pay the full list price but even still, it seems like a steal when looking at those figures. Thanks in advance.

Cold. It's not an iphone .

Bit harsh. Did I leave my cufflinks on your wife's dresser again?

vauxhall.....haha OK. I always indicate as don't need an ego boosting under equipped Mercedes wannabe car thank you :smile: haha

That is why - buy Toyota 2000-2002 RAV4 (Made in Japan!!) - because it is one of the most reliable cars on this planet (look for rankings TUV or DEKRA) buy it for about £1500 - do full overhaul and full valet (car washed inside out) and for about £2000-3000 you have got virtually NEW car for ages!!!

Great if you have a company car allowance, but those who dont ....its a pointless idea renting a car as you never own it and might as well wait two years and put the money aside...then buy your own outright or get a 0% offer by putting 13k down on a 26k car. Probably end up getting one rented by some moron for two years !

mind you reading your posts I can see why you like patronising merc dealers. u feel at home.

With a PCP u have the option of buying the vehicle at the end of the term, in this case at the end of the 2 years. Does anyone know the final payment one would have to make to own the vehicle?

​Why would you pay £58k for that when you can buy it new for £58k off brokers like broadspeed or drive the deal?

the lease deal is still far better though for most people (who want an A8).

A bit too big and bulky for uk roads in my opinion though. Tried out an RS7 and thought that was too big too, other than that and price, would have bought otherwise :grin:

One of the most absurd and ludicrous comments I've seen on a lease deal and there's always plenty to choose from, you must have noticed this is a lease deal for an £81K Audi. How on earth does an old second hand Toyota RAV even compare. This useless nonsense is always posted in lease deals. So whatever car you actually want, don't get it because you can have a nearly 15 year old Toyota RAV, makes perfect sense.

What would you say if you wanted a Toyota RAV and someone said, no don't get the Toyota RAV get an Audi S8 for £81,000, you'd think they were stark raving bonkers, but this is exactly what you've just done.

It's about meeting targets of sales and bonuses. I checked that only 100 Audi S8 were registered last year. I assume Audi has target number for this year and is trying to achieve it by heavily discounting number of cars/production slots.

I had leased SLK before and it didn't make any financial sense for Mercedes Benz Finance, yet they were subsiding it heavily. I think in that case goal was to introduce diesel model to the market. I doubt people would rush to buy it otherwise. And sometimes it's about competition and introducing number of cars to the market to beat competition. For example C63 vs M3.

So there might be different reasons to discount cars/lease heavily and if we can grab cheap deal, it's good for us.

if you can afford to run one of these then you probbo not attracted to a list that advises on Poundland deals...

Who keeps posting them???

Says who? Surely this is 100% relative to someone's income isn't it? Such a silly statement.

Did this quiet early on, it truely is a life changer. Irrespective of still having the means, controlling that materialistic need itch really helps with getting off the rat race.

Okay, some people are unable to, due to other commitments. So being able to enjoy the use of a nice car like this is good. And in life most things are relative, so if you're on an average income, the monthly payments on this would seem excessive. To others its not.

Finally a sensible question. Don't have the answer. Has anyone actually got this deal yet? It is one thing to say other brokers are offering similar deals but that doesn't necessarily mean it will be honored. I don't see how it can pay them either and if it looks too good then... As posted previously Drive the Deal are offering a substantial saving on this against list but even so it still doesn't stack up.

Seriously!?

It's a misconception that people with money don't bother with bargains. However, it's just not true. People with money generally have money because they are wise with it.

Therefore it's nice to get a bargain, even if you don't need one.

Must be a posh street if an S8 is needed to get one over on the neighbours.

I personally think a straight jacket is needed for people who purchase heavily depreciating cars with cash.

Think about it this way, buy a £80,000 house up north or some parts of the midlands, rent it out for £450-£500 and it would almost pay the lease price and you would own an appreciating asset. Of course the tax man would want his share.

​If we follow your logic, then life itself is a bad deal. You come in, earn everything, and at the end of it you have ... Nothing! Other than a large bill for your funeral.

They do make profits on these because its likely they have a great deal from audi. Audi benefit from claiming their selling 'x' amount of cars which keeps their global reputation up. Most of their margin comes from the mugs that actually go in and purchase these at RRP. You might even find behind all the lease operations their actually the manufacturers themselves.

Very nice car. I had a w12 A8 it was the best car I have ever owned. If you are in the market for a new one and change every 2 or 3 years this would be the way to go. Some people need a new car like this for their image / work. Personally I would rather spend £ 17 - £18k on a 3 or 4 year old 7 Series with 45k on the clock. This is a good deal for someone in the market for an A8 though. All these luxury barges loose a fortune in depreciation you would be insane to buy one new at list price.

really you can buy houses for the 100 or 200 quid a month that the majority spend on a lease car that they will never own? its completely dead money whichever way you attempt to spin it, you're paying off the VAT and depreciation for somebody else, its utter madness.
its akin to paying rent to pay off someone elses mortgage instead getting one of your own and paying it off, and both stem from the same issues, lack of finances to either be granted a mortgage, or lack of funds to buy a car outright

This is PCH not PCP, completely different. You never can own the car.

Great deal made even more affordable with the earlier £1 b and m table.

Here goes my educated guess as to why...

Broadspeed have this car priced at £58k.

The fleet dept. within an Audi dealer have ordered 10+ to hit their bonus targets. They'll probably get a further discount based on the volume of their order. So let's say the dealer gets the car for £53k - possibly less?

You drive the car for 2 years/20,000 miles and hand over £14k in the process. Net cost £39k. Audi dealer then puts the car on the forecourt with a £47k price tag.

The manufacturer RRP is total nonsense. Once you realise that, it does not seem like any sort of deal at all.

Just got a new rs6 avant last month otherwise I would have been all over this.

Yeah cos that makes sense. Nice one. Your original comment was very helpful.

Getting philosophical on a car deal here! Dangerous thinking though, I hope you don't end up with "hmm dog food is fit for human consumption and let's face it, dinner is just stuff that goes in the toilet in the end" swirling round your head!

I wish people could get banned for posting useless junk on deals. There will be genuine people interested in this deal trying to siv through 10 pages of people talking rubbish about how they can't afford it. How it's chavvy. How it's ridiculous. Please keep these comments to yourself. If something isn't a deal please state why and provide a LEASE alternative.

Sick of trawling through garbage posts on deals just to find ones which genuinely add insight into the deal.

They are 66k new not 80k

Example:
You buy a car outright for £20,000, and sell it two years later for £12,800. To own the car for 24 months has cost you £7,200 which is £300 a month.
If you can lease the same car for 24 months for less that £300 a month you're spending less to have the car for the same period of time. Simples no?

It's not unheard of to be offered the car at the end of the lease, my Dad used to get offered his company cars at the end of their Lex leases.

Seriously though, you'd need deep pockets to run an S8 out of warranty.

You can add me to this list too. I still see friends of mine working like stink at jobs they hate to earn the money they need to afford silly baubles like this Audi. It's all so illogical. You can always earn more money but you can't always get more time. So many people don't realise this fundamental truth until it's too late. I stopped when I was 53. Best decision I ever made...

I have 10k spare someone point me to the best car for that cash. Thanks

What about depreciation if you BUY car?

No problem. Glad to help people see sense.

Wow, £14000 to borrow somebody's car... Recession my ar5e

It's a beautifully made machine. Love the lines on it too with an engine that is creamy smooth too. 3.2?

Silly, me it's the S8. The ESP button threw me.

Ha ha ha ha ha! Tell me the car you could have for 13k that comes close to this for reliability, performance spec? Things start to go wrong on older cars, they're out of warranty,you have to pay road tax! You need MOTs, fuel consumption is poorer. Road tax by the way would total £1360 for this car over the first 2 years! Again another clever person who is comparing enterely different things! Some moron who wants to save 20-30k over 2 years on driving the top of the range comfortable performance vehicle. I don't have a company car allowance but I'll be getting an S7 which won't be costing much more than a bottom of the range 3 series cost me to buy....

Glad to see this deal has rightly went SCORCHING, there are the few left like you who don't understand economics...try working out how much you'd lose on a couple of year old car with the same refinements and performance then factor in things which could go wrong.

If you're making comparisons, at least make them relative.

You'd rather drive a banger because it SEEMS like you'd save money, incomparable and unpredictable costs.

Happy motoring.

far from simple.

if you buy a car outright you have an asset worth 20k, that can be sold, if you have a lease, you have a potential liability of 20k, and also a contracted liability of 7k, if you crash or damage it without sufficient insurance, you're up **** creek, if you lose your job / become i'll etc etc, that 7k liability is enough for a company to push for bankruptcy, you'll lose everything.

its impossible to compare buying a car outright, to getting a leased car, its more than just the bottom line financial cost.

This may be true, But there are a lot of people who still like to buy stuff upfront in cash, I am one, The thing is, When you buy something with cash, It may hurt for a day or two, Or more, But after a bit of time, It's gone, You may have a car that's depreciating fast, But the money has gone, You have moved on, your going to work and thinking about other things, Your not thinking about that other 3 or 4 hundred quid payment next month.

I know that people say put the money away and pay whatever off monthly with that, But we never put it away, It's like them mobile phone deals with the lump some cash back, And people say it's a deal cos it's effectively such and such a month, It is, If you put that lump sum in another account and use it to pay the contract, If it go's in you regular account, It gets lost with all the other money, And your still paying out the full contract price every month.

Pay with cash, It's bought and payed for,Its yours, And the money gone, End of.

​Ha ha nice one.Youll save on indicator bulbs too which are not standard on most audis.

Agreed on taking the lowest mileage but not on handing it back early. The 5k mileage option is on Solent Vehicle Leasing for 5k miles 3600+ 23x396 Inc VAT (doc fee of 300 which is easily waived) £12708 excess is 10.8p inc VAT per mile so 13788 for the same deal.

I managed to get my S7 on 5k for 3600 down, no doc fee and then 23x430..but that's because I've optioned Sepang Blue paint and a flat bottomed steering wheel (i know i know - don't option a lease car but for 34 extra per month and it's exactly what I want and can afford, why not!?)

From the customer perspective its probably worth about 40k as a trade in and costs 60k new. So you're 6k up by leasing (minus the cost of gap insurance and repairs to return it to showroom condition at the end of the lease).

You have GOT to be trolling :|.

Your 20k car is NOT worth 20k 2years after you buy it. Plus you're liable for everything that goes wrong with it and as it'll be a second hand car...MOT, ROAD TAX...any repairs.

The bankruptcy comment is utter nonsense. I don't know why I'm even replying. Insurance and GAP insurance too... if you're worried about a total loss. Gap insurance can be had for 120 for the full term even on a car like this.

I bought my current car in cash from new, however if it depreciated in one year by twice the cost of leasing it for two years I would've been first in line at the mad house.

I'd rather have a buy to let than this.

It is a good deal though.

Most French cars have 5 stars n-cap don't they.

Agree, but I do like the RS6 estate! There's no such thing as a 'bargain' with cars like these my friends, if the depreciation doesn't get ya, road tax, insurance, service, and fuel consumption of 66% the advertised figure ( 33% if u floor it) will! few r bought by private buyers, most r perks of the job or rentals; not a bad car, but nothing special & doubt whether it's the 2016 revised model ( yes, they're called that in the year of design completion, not particularly sale); buy an S class or try new 7 series Beemer if u must,but me? A big luxury SUV every time

People with real money get far more astute advice on what to do with it than coming in here.

I might be wrong but I don't think the mega minted are that concerned about getting a year's XBL gold sub for an apple off CD Keys or 5 heart attack doughnuts for 45 pence from their local Tesco X)

Same as top-spec Merc A Class, being ragged silly by the innit brigade, always makes avoid these types of cars

On the contrary, I actually think its most likely to be those who can ill afford a purchase such as this who are voting hot

Noticed the Solent deal too...but they're actually Central Vehicle Leasing which are banned merchants on HUKD, otherwise I would've posted that deal.

So many great BOSE memes that I could post here. Would anyone like to see them?

how is it utter nonsense? people go bankrupt everyday over an over stretched and under insured car, thats pushed them over the edge, or are you going to claim it never happens? how many people haven't got GAP insurance and are driving around with the legal minimum of 3rd party only?

any idea what the delivery time on these is? very tempted!

Wow, what an original comment. What a bright spark you must be.

Its actually more common than you think and BMW in particular are renowned for it. The flagship models are discounted massively and fed into the lease broker pool when they're being outsold by flagship models from their competing brands such as Mercedes, etc. The view from the manufacturers is that the more people see on the roads the more they buy, also they need to get their numbers up to look good to the market analysts, etc, etc a few years ago when the Mercedes S class was outselling BMW 7 Series 10 to 1 BMW were offering the BMW 750li for a touch over £300 incl VAT for example

Definitely never.

I guess the answer is to insure it properly then.

Illness and redundancy insurance isn't dear either.

Lovely car which I can't afford, but deary me the interior is let down something chronic by that hula hoop steering wheel.

Heat added perfect for school runs then LOL

Good Spot, I've got 3 friends that have had cars from them and no issues. I don't know why they're banned?

Don't be daft man. Boxsters and 911's are very different machines with very different dynamics. People who know what that means, will understand the differences and those who don't make silly remarks just like that one.

They are very fussy on these high end motors on any damage when you return the car. A friend had a range rover sport there was very light curbing on 2 alloys. They wouldn't allow refurbished he had to buy 2 new alloys, any significant scratches which you always get on big motors in car parks had to be repaired . They also said it needed new tyres, some replacement trim inside. His final bill almost £5k.You do any cosmetic damage you pay for it.

Personally I prefer to buy. I would buy a 3 year old 7 series instead of this. You own it and it wouldn't cost you that much more over 3 years. You want a change you sell it. You get a scratch or minor damage it doesn't matter. You need the money you can sell it.

You have a depreciating asset but an asset none the less, vs an open ended liability for 2 years.

Am I missing something? It's ugly as sin and the interior is awful, I'd rather a 4 Series or something.

Ronaldo and Beckham have opted for the sensible approach and decided to lease their Audi S8s:

Probably self-promotion.

Family, friends and myself have used several different brokers in the past and not experienced problems.

OT but why do you think the 1.4tsi is a dog? I've got one of the 2007 140s in a Golf (European not UK) and it's a brilliant engine. Not frugal but excellent drive.

The 160 and 170ps versions of the twin charged 1.4TSI are very unreliable as VWs go - they've dropped them for the 1.8TSI (as found in the latest Polo GTI, amongst others) and the Turbo only 140/150ps 1.4TSI. Supercharger magnetic clutch failures and piston crowns fracturing after misfires caused by coil pack failures.

Buy things that appreciate in value such as property, rent/lease things that depreciate in value such as cars.

It's a very old adage but one that still very much rings true! Good deal for those in the market for such a thing.

Lol and people complain about the expensive bicycle deals. Yet chucking away £500 squid a month on basically NOTHING is just fine.
Petrol head and his/her money easily parted.

​Missing the point, recalls mean manufacturer has recognised the fault & will fix it. Argument here us Audio are refusing to do so so comparing recalls isn't a particularly helpful comparison here

Ncap is a load of rubbish french cars are rot boxes ask any mechanic

What about driving a motor that's well within your means or is that just too common sense and simplistic?

Edit: I meant to point out that I get exactly the same speeding ticket in my ickle Mazda 2 as all you's do in your Rolls Martin XR Testarossa's when you pretend you're Roland Ratzenberger going vroom vroom vroom round the M25 so there!

really ??? do you own an audi 8 series ? I have as well as various a6 and audi 100 if you go back a few years.

I was doing over 40k a year and had no problems. excellent cars that I personally drove 7-800 miles in a day more than once and wasn't shattered when I got out at the end of the day.

Buy t Its £13933

This does beat your Daihatsu Sirion though in all aspects. Don't be bitter if you can never afford this deal, Its amazing how people shun deals they cannot afford as they have convinced themselves what's the point and pull on anything to justify their rational. This is a luxury car at the very top end of what is motoring. It will be nice inside and out with a quality that most cars will simply not be able to compete with. The quattro system is second to none and always has been on Aud'is. Reliability isn't really an issue as production processes aren't what they were in the 80's with all major car companies employing high level quality control systems. When I drive down the motorway I rarely see any car on the hard shoulder these days. These are just small gripes spewed from someone who is bitter about there social position. Judging by the amount of likes this seems very common. The talk of buy japanese is wholly valid mind but with the exception of a few higher end models there simply is no comparison on the quality. Ultimately the only people who will shun a deal on a high priced motor are the only people who have no interest in ever getting one or cannot afford one. I cannot afford this myself but it is a good deal on a good car. Get a grip, be more optimistic and tell yourself life is a half full glass experience and not half empty.

Can someone confirm if this has a reversing camera as standard? and has anyone placed an order yet - what options and / or colour are people going for?!

Kerbed alloys are entirely avoidable, not surprised they threw the book at your mate. A good refinishing before you return the car and they'd never know. If you return it damaged and they have it put right then you're going to get hit hard financially as you're paying for their time to chase up the repairs before it gets sold on. More so for diamond cut rather than painted alloys.

Think of the possibilities of action you could have (transporter refueled )

On a like for like basis, this looks a pretty hot deal to me. Seems to be a lot of people arguing otherwise, so here's a few ground rules for comparing:

1) A link to a 10 year old used car on 'trader is not comparable. And while a 3 year old model might seem appealing it is also not comparable!
2) Mentioning that cheap, reliable, Japanese car you've run for 30 years is not a valid comparison
3) A good cash deal on the same car, showing less depreciation over the lease period is a valid comparison
4) A better deal for an equivalent spec from a different luxury marque would be a valid comparison
5) Complaining about the fact that this deal involves burning money is not a valid argument and simply demonstrates that you've never owned a new car before

FWIW, I think this is a good deal. (a similar one dropped in my mailbox the other day, so I assume Audi have a special deal going on at the moment)

Obligatory: I could buy a bike for this money?

​We have lots of protection under SOGA it's just the majority don't get good legal advice and follow through with it. If you're prepared to fight your corner and go to court if necessary (not too hard nor scary to do) then you'll probably win.

The problem here is **** who convince people they have less statutory rights than they do & people fall for it. In fact behaving like that is a breach of consumer protection 2008 so a dealer could be in breach of that & SOGA. This is one instance where we need to emulate the US & get more militant & go legal in small claims court

Spot on, there's load on here where if it's not reduced by 90% and has 10% quidco on it they'll vote it cold. This is a good deal for a hell of a motor

You make a good point about insurance and that needs to be factored into the equation, but not such a good point that if you buy a car for £20k you have a £20k asset. I'd say you have an £18k asset at best. The point is that owning cars has an associated hidden cost in the form of depreciation which you didn't seem to figure in your logic in your earlier post.
As for risk, yeah I get what you're saying. Guess it depends on how fragile you see your own situation to be, and on you own attitude to risk.

My sentiments exactly.....Move to the simple life....Debt free is the way to be... :wink:

Yes I did No I'd rather lease.

Arrogant!

They get 20 to 40% bulk discount, and if you look at € to GBP currency conversion rate that's another whopper 20% compared with a year ago as it is circa €100,000 list price before discount in Germany.

True I said to him.he should have had them refurbished before returning. It was relatively minor. If you let a woman drive it will definitely have kerbed alloys and parking damage. Also I wouldn't stick kids in it. They do anything to the leather or trim and you are #######

But if a petrolhead parts their cash for cars that they'll enjoy driving, is that really such a bad thing?

Some people spend £20 a day on cigarettes, others drink £20 worth of alcohol, some families spend £7k on holidays every year, some people have a £50 'flutter' on the horses every other day, couples spend £20k on a wedding - only to get a divorce a year down the line, others finance a family car (new or used) with a horrendous APR only for it work out at £500 per month, etc.

If you have the financial means and would enjoy driving this car, then what's the problem?

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That's an interesting insight thanks! PS just noticed the Rav 4 remark... (Headshake)

I'd suggest Envy....................... :wink:

And by your logic, all Audis are massively unreliable, and Jonnithomas has bucked the trend and been incredibly lucky with his cars. If you look at any of the reliability surveys, you'll see that the difference between the best and the worst is pretty small these days. Audi is firmly middle of the pack in reliability terms, the most reliable cars on any list are those which are very small city cars that have next-to-nowt in equipment and are unlikely to have done many miles (the kind that pensioners and school run mums generally buy to do short journeys) - electric and electronics are the bane of all modern motors. Look at a cross section of 10 year old cars though and which ones look tidier for longer and run into mega miles? You'll find it's your German marques rather than your American, French and Korean cars. There's a reason German cars hold their value better down the line and it's not because they're flimsy, ugly, underpowered rot-boxes with appalling fuel economy and reliability. For every bad story you can dig up on a BMW or Audi, you will find another for Honda, Ford, Citroen etc.

I'd rather purchase a 14k car and keep it after 2 years..

My rs3 is flawless, s3 flawless, the q5 was flawless maybe you unlucky but 400,000 miles hassle free isn't bad!

Ahh, such wit. Give you a clue. not everyone sleeps well

I take it from your response that no, you haven't ever driven one. I've tried to see things from your point of view but I couldn't get my head up your a-hole too.

You're definitely trolling. Why are you "worst case scenario?" As long as it's adequately insured,which mine certainly will be then non issue. Some people are reckless with their money and live outwith their means, but that's their problem, not the fact that there are fantastic lease deals out there on great cars ...oh and for the record TPFT insurance usually costs a hell of a lot more than fully comp on a car like this! Get a quote and stop spouting garbage.

​I know what you mean, it would be Merc for me if I was choosing over my Porsche.

hello
i would like say
when one purchases a peoples car it is called a peoples car because it is paid for by the people.
greeks, irish, portuguese, spanish and the british taxpayer.
i thank you

don't know why you would need a rear camera. mine had rear sensors and they were a real pain as they started bleeping far too soon and in a tight carpark with pillars the side ones were going when you were a long way from the space at the rear.

You did beat me to the tone lowering, your car was not being personnal on my part just a fact you have posted which reflects your taste in automobiles. It would appear that all you need is an A to B which is absolutely fine, so why post on this particular thread. You are bitter, your other posts clearly shows this. 59 lol growup you idiot.

My chauffeur recommends the S Class over this.

Oh dear. There's always someone that has to lower the tone, get all personal and snotty and today that someone is you!
Okay, I'll just come out and say it... I have tonnes of money. So much, I sometimes wonder why I bothered to earn it in the first place. I gave up work six years ago at the tender age of 53. I've given away loads to the kids and I spend about a third of the year on holiday but the cash pile still seems to be getting bigger and that's before the pensions kick in. This deal really would be a cheap deal for me. I could go out tomorrow and spend the money in a heart beat but...and it's an important but....I choose not to.
Now if you're so inclined, please feel free to have another go at getting all superior because the first one really didn't achieve much and I can play this game all day long.

You'd be surprised at the condition you can return the car in. The following are acceptable:

- Very minor body dents, which are not visible on a two-metre appraisal and with no paintwork damage.
- Stone chips on forward-facing panels
- Light scuffing to non-painted parts
- Light scuffs on the rim edge of wheel trims
- Light scratches limited to less than 50% of the wheel rim

Taken from Audi's/BVRLA's fair wear and tear guidelines.

I do personally but I was discussing the other poster's points about what happens if a financial calamity turns your world upside down, accident, illness or redundancy can strike at any time but they can be insured against is the point I was making. Plus of course all the negative comments apply equally whether you own or lease a car-don't they say that most people are only three missed pay packets from financial problems?

I think some people choose to misunderstand posts on here at times to advance their own agenda. I also think that some people still don't get leasing, I don't do it personally but I know those who do and it makes sound financial sense if someone requires a certain standard of car for work and their company doesn't supply a car or they're self employed. Company mileage allowances often make it a favourable option.

​Great first post though lol

A very quick calculation shows this is the equivalent of 100 hours of karting at Daytona (£2-£3 per minute)

Does anyone have a link of good UK roads to use this car to anywhere near its potential? That's the only drawback IMO

Great price but not many people do 10k a year and watch the fully maintained price, servicing and tyres for that won't be cheap on top! Heat

So you chose an Audi based entirely on the fact you felt one Mercedes dealer was patronising? Your decision to spend over £60k was because you didn't like the salesman in one dealer? You overlooked the fact the Mercedes is a vastly superior product in virtually every way and bought the Audi to spite those evil doers in that dealer you went in.

Ok then. :p:p

I don't like hardly any car dealer salesmen, they are all virtually as bad as each other. I don't take it as a reason to not buy one of their cars, and I can avoid doing business with them anyway if it bothered me that much and still buy the manufacturer's product- it's not difficult.....

Heated for the deal... not the morals of leasing... which I agree with.

Erm why would any stupid mechanical **** extension qualify as a deal, never mind a hot one?

When I was a teenager I thought flash cars were cool, but I soon went off the idea when owning them fire bombed my wallet so I'm sorry......not for me, colder than a penguin with hypothermia in the South Pole (_;)

I'll take 2.

Heres why I wouldn't touch an Audi.

- Unreliable - you spend once a week in the garage having various things fixed, things that shouldn't break, but thats shoddy engineering for you.

- Dull to drive - you might aswell put wheels on your bed, because Audi's are the dullet cars to drive on the road, absolutely no character at all.

Bland styling - extremely boring design that has been recycled throughout the range for the last 15 years. My dishwasher is more exciting, same with the dull dark interior.

Uncomfortable - They stick stiff suspension onto every cars which give them a hard drive, unless you pay thousands more different setup.

Rattles - for a car that is supposed to be premium they develop rattles quite quickly, lots of build quality issues.

Price - Usually ridiculously expensive, but you can get massive discounts because they arent actually worth the the RRP.

Dealers - horrible dealer network that is interested only in your money and treat you like crap.

​said in true 'royal family' style lol

Germany is the best place to drive this car. Maybe some wide bendy roads in UK, but can't think of any. I usually go to Europe to enjoy driving.

When the Peugeot GTI was on here people were going mental about how great it was. Now it's not a French piece of crap that anyone can afford it's all 'leasing is stupid. You'd have to be an idiot to spend more than 10k on a car '

​lol, mercy are terrible quality and look a mess inside. I have one and an audi. BMW interior and dash are horrible. as for the exterior on BMW, yuck

You have to be doing ridiculously short journeys all the time for the DPF not to get the chance to regenerate. Someone doing 8k miles should not have bother with one.

Pre-DPF diesels have a filthy exhaust, i'd fully endorse them being banned from city centres where they sit on idle a lot of the time while stuck in traffic and churn out particulates.

I've had 7 TDIs in a row before my Golf R, did average miles in them and not had a bother with DPFs (the last 4 had DPFs) filling up, save for the first one that had a DPF, teething issues on new tech, fixed a few weeks into ownership with an ECU sottware update.

My MK7 Golf GTD (EU6 compliant) had cleaner exhaust pipes than my R does - the tech works.

People buying a diesel for only city driving need to rethink, but the temptation is there because quite often the diesel option has better residuals, for many car owners though, diesel still makes perfect sense, even with an EU6 compliant DPF equipped version.

If you buy a diesel car where someone has been filling the DPF regularly doing city driving, that should have no long term ill effects when you get your hands on it, combustible particulate build up doesn't irreversibly remain in the DPF. DPFs are generally good for at least 150k miles. Almost everything that goes into them is combusted. A tiny trace of incombustible ash gets left behind. It is the accumulation of this ash to 150k + miles that fills the DPF to the point of it not having enough storage room for particulate regeneration and then renders it useless. .

How do lease companies make money on these if the depreciation over the lease period is more than the lease cost?

Great deal. I assume it's a 3 year warranty so no worries about Nash surprises. My next car will definitely be a lease. This would be fantastic

​japan cars are no better and bland. agree with your comments about some audi dealers though, BMW are worse

ITT: People who can't afford the payments/running costs of this car feeling smug in telling the world they won't buy it anyway.

Objectively, if you're in the market and position to run one of these, it's a cracking deal. Vote hot, and move on with your life. ;>

Good deal, not a great car. It's absolutely no match for the S class. That's also the problem with this deal, you think it'll make you look rich, but it'll actually make you look poor because it's such a poor man's S class.

It's like the Porsche Boxster of large saloons, oh you have a Porsche! Yes, it's a Boxster....oh. Poor guy :stuck_out_tongue:

If I have got your line of logic right, it goes Iike this...
- You have not had a problem with your Audis, so no-one else can have had problems either.
- Your Audis didn't use gargantuan amounts of oil so the Audi oil consumption problems are a big fat lie.
- If you weren't personally on the deck of the Titantic, you can't have a valid opinion on whether ships sink.
It's definitely a unique philosophy you have there Jonni...

I fancied a merc for ages. Then when i can afford one they are ruined by very poor interiors. Screens that look like a retro fit afterthought for instance. Makes them un-purchasable in my opinion. I have run VAG based cars for the last 250k miles and next to zero mechanical probs. Always amazes me how many people are desperate to rubbish these lease deals. If they aren't in the market for a new car every few years then they should jog on. Obviously nowt better to do or just sour grapes methinks. Was hoping to find more informative post about the pros and cons of this deal but guess i should have known better.

TFSI has problems with oil consumption, it was part of the design that wasn't right... My boss has one and it was going down 4L of engine oil every couple of weeks (he was on finance so they was sorting it out for him warranty and that) however when they took it further to fix it Audi said they have wrote off this problem or something so he would need to pay for a new engine to be fit it.... Or other option was to take the car off him and can choose another car at same price range.... Still good deal just be careful when purchasing this particular one, just read up on it if your not sure :smile: (still voting hot for price though)

Never knew Daytona karts come with climate control, heated leather seats, a dashboard, 3 passenger seats, a boot, a 512bhp engine, alloys, bluetooth, BOSE surround sound, quad exhausts, 4WD, CD/DVD player, nav, keyless entry, LED lights and airbags as standard.

hey, success. I have found just the right deal for you ! amazingly it's on here too, just right, look here...
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Dat salt

Maybe you would, but this deal is about deciding if leasing an £80k car for 2 years and it costing £14k is a better deal than buying said car and suffering 2 years depreciation on it. I doubt anyone here would disagree that you would suffer far more than £14k depreciation in buying it from new, even with a generous discount.

try and hire a car like that for less than £150 a week? not a chance you would get a polo or mini well used for that...get real itys never going to be yours just a loan for that price they take the biggest hit not you who just gets to drive around in a nice car for buttons

£13,933.92 for a car...equivalent to £580.58 per month. I could buy a half decent bicycle every two months for that amount :grin:

I think the only bad thing about these deal is the size of the car unless you need/want it to be that big. Insurance might a bit expensive as well, comparing to smaller/cheaper cars. Otherwise it's great price if you're in the market for it or similar.

Regarding Mercedes quality, my £55K brand new Mercedes has rattling dash from day one. Dealers tried to fixed it a few times without success. However my previous Mercedes, half the price, was excellent and there was no problem with it. There's no perfect brand. If I fancy another Mercedes, I will get it, but only after checking reviews and forums carefully, to make sure I don't buy another rattling box.

the tailgater is based on the a6

try and hire a car like that for less than £150 a week? not a chance you would get a polo or mini well used for that...get real itys never going to be yours just a loan for that price they take the biggest hit not you who just gets to drive around in a nice car for buttons:p A8 for less than an A6?

just a quick question.. what engine sizes in which cars are so bad ? the smallest one I have driven was 2.6 I think. I've also had two diesels.

No, I fully understood what you were trying to say. I also fully understood that you were looking to perpetuate a nonsense to make a similarly silly point. Stop listening to celebrity motorheads and take note.

Boxster owners under the shadow of owners of the 911 because they can't afford it? Drivel! I know those who have bought into the Cayman to put in the 3.8 from the 997 CS. Cost them far more than the 911 itself would have. Why? Because it is a better machine. I know those who race the Boxster/Cayman model. Why? Because it is a better machine. I also know those who have both. Why? Because like I, we can afford them and accepted they are different machines.

Finally, there are those who drive an S8 because they find them superior to the S-Class. In fact, I like both machines, driven both machines across their generations and just as with the Porsche's, what is abundantly clear to me is that they were not designed to be the same.

By all means, disagree with my opinion but it is only one that has developed after first-hand experience.

Thinking about going for this. Does it have electric windows?

Given the depreciation why does anyone buy new unless they have more money than sense or drive mega miles?

Its called disposable income........move along nothing for you in this thread
nice try with the large bill for damage......its been explained

How hot would the deal be if someone offered to sell you this car for £60k and guarantee to pay you back £46k after two years?


Given the car is worth more new, and costs less after 2 years you'd be hard pressed to consider it a bad deal. And that doesn't even consider tieing up £60k of cash.

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i thank yuooooo

Bet its not as fun as to drive as my Fiesta ST

That's a sweeping statement of all VAGs turbo charged petrol units. Not many TSI/TFSI owners suffer high oil consumption, but those that do will be complaining about it loudly. You can see plenty of others with non-VAG cars complaining about high oil consumption on the internet. High oil consumption is very often indicative of a car that was babied on run-in or run-in on motorway miles - glazed bores, poorly worn in rings etc, the engine needs a bit of variety early on in its life.

7 of my 8 VWs bought from new never used a drop of oil between services, the one that did (a litre every 1000 miles, and for the first 1000 miles, a litre every 500 miles!) was bought from a broker miles away from my house and it seemed the perfect opportunity to have a good drive around the country and visit relatives as I was well away from home anyway. It did its first 750 miles pretty much sat at 80 in 6th, doing a constant 2200rpm. I do not think I had a faulty car, it had a poor run in.

VAG have only made one dog of an engine and that was the twin charged 1.4TSI unit (160/170ps), now replaced by the 1.8TSI.

I know this is a lease, but can I pay off more earlier if I want to????

disposable income again
lease cars ...... buy houses........ rent out houses........ you should try it

Yes.

It also has a rev counter.

It's not a few vocal owners is it unless you think 126,000 (the number of problem Audis involved in the US class action) is 'a few'. Furthermore you don't get your own slot on Watchdog unless Auntie Beeb has checked out the story and established that there is a real issue that needs national exposure.
Inadequate run-in/bore glazing was often cited in the early days of Audi's excessive oil consumption problem. Lots of well intentioned people suggested all you needed to fix the problem was an 'Italian tune-up'. However this all proved to be something of a red herring. The actual cause is complex but it's what happens when you too marry up too many fuel efficiency features on one engine without regard for how they interact.

I can't find an official figure but £600 is quoted on several websites for the average bill for damages on a lease return. I haven't leased a car before so have no personal experience of how fussy they are, but even if you did factor in a £600 bill at the end it's still a great deal!

It's absolutely nothing like renting or buying a house, for one thing if you buy a house, over a period of time they appreciate in value. This car will depreciate massively over time. A house is usually essential so if you can't afford to buy then you rent.

Depreciation only such a factor if you're daft enough to buy new anyway. A lease should have an f at the start. It's a flease/fleece and one of the worst financial things you can do. Might as well drive along and chuck £50 notes out the window. Each to their own though.

Erm and the real affluent types come on here and lease/buy on finance do they?

I drive a scratchy Mazda 2 but I own two properties which are both totally paid up, without a penny mortgage owing. In fact I bought my second property off the council for 75k cash 3 years ago now.........I'm proudly a 'pauper' #justsaying

I have ancient galant 2002 2.5 v6 (70k on the clock) and i wouldnt say its borig looking. I actualy cant find a car with better front on the market. I always wanted a galant when i was a kid and here i am. Japaniese cars are not boring belive me, my engine compared to v6 in bmw and audi (same year) sounds like a beast :wink:

It might help if you understood the comparison made. People that buy the Boxster are always classically under the shadow of the 'full size' Porsche, the 911, because they could not afford one.

Likewise, you say "I drive an Audi s8" - because you cannot afford the ONLY large German luxobarge that actually matters, and that is the S class. I do mean only. Anything else is a cop out in that sector.

Lesson over.

yes, that average figure is for all vehicles including repmobiles which aren't treated too well.when my a6 turbo diesel went back I insisted on them writing and signing a proper inspection showing no faults found. all it had were a couple of stone chips.

I doubt most cars like this will have any damage at all other than maybe wheel scuffs as any bodywork would already have been done by insurance. also the cheap insurance companies won't cover quality cars like this so any work will usually have been done at a main agent.

actually I chose an a8 and not a merc as I really don't like merc dealers and their patronising attitude. I could afford one, didn't want one.

You still misunderstand. Nowhere did I say the Boxster was a poor car, indeed, it is a good car. It's still viewed as a poor man's 911 though, by the majority of people. Perception my dear fellow.

Perceived by most people. This is what is relevant to my point. The Boxster is a good car, still seen as a poor man's 911 no matter if you tried to explain to the whole world til you are blue in the face. Changes nothing. The S8 if anything isn't that good a car, and even more so in that additional sense it genuinely is a poor man's S class.

Need I explain any further? There is little point trying to lecture me.

no silly !!! of course it wasn't one salesman in one dealer. it was those on the Frankfurt motor show I went up to them three times and spoke to different people. Then I tried four different dealers in London.

btw, I didn't say I didn't like them. I said that they were patronising. they are. I had the cash to buy one outright and was put off by their attitude. I went to Audi and was immediately offered a test drive so I bought one and found I was happy with them. so I have continued.

so I didn't want a beer with any of them. I also didn't expect to be treated as tho I didn't have the cash to buy one either.

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very true, it's clearly your own approach.

No doubt some numpty will put supermarket RON 95 fuel in this thinking it's just as good...

and just to think you will never own the vehicle.

Yep, just been told the same.
They havent confirmed yet if the factory orders will be at the same price.

Besides the flood of people in the thread that say this is a bad deal, did anyone else try to order?

The graph is actually not that complicated if you can read, what it shows is that it goes down in value very quickly :smile:

Its a lease, why would you care about depreciation?

Loooool!

I brought politics in to it?

I think you best have a closer look at that again and perhaps check what I was replying to. I'm sure I also mentioned the Trabant in the very contribution I suspect you're referring to, not that either of the two Erich's(Honecker and Mielke) ever cruised around in one but that does prove my point.

I would say I look forward to your apology.......but the bigoted prejudice you've just demonstrated against one of the UK's home nations and the football club I follow has already made it crystal clear I won't be getting one eh, yet I'm 'the lowest of the low' :neutral_face: oh the irony

that's a really lame attempt to troll.

£75,000.00 CASH? Yeah you sound like a pauper...

No, not a nice story for hukd. I only explained and gave more detail (the little story) after your attempt to ridicule my view. my own experiences would not have been given in any detail if you hadn't done this.

however, your experience of having to go to a dealer is not my own. I have left a deposit and signed an order at a motor show. I have then arranged payment and delivery to my own office without EVER going to a dealers. I was buying it duty free and had no contact with a dealer at any stage.

btw, you normally do not see and touch your own car if it is being ordered until you collect it.

now I have explained I shall not respond further. I actually find you quite unpleasant.

I don't think it's a 'lame attempt' at all because probably everyone in this pointless debate won't ever own this stupid car, matey is bang on the money!

I don't get cars, I am the first to admit it, and I do wonder how many of you boy/dad/grandad racers have driving gloves and do that elevated arm on the window to look 'cool' inn your box on four wheels? When I read some of you wannabe Top Gear presenters talking about alloy wheels all I think of is the melts who hang around the Harlow Burger King drivethrough in their Ford Ka-zhis with dinlow loud exhausts.

Horses for courses n all that but reading all you car 'enthusiasts' drone on about reliability bla bla is about as interesting as perch fishing in a radioactive lake round Chernobyl hmmmm well any kind of fishing as that's pants too but you get my drift.

That all said it's mighty amusing and yes I have this argument with plenty of my mates who are car crazy, sorry but motors are just the most expensive accessory you could ever buy that do nothing but lose you money...........just lob a few grand on a bonfire instead, it's the same thing! :grin:

Complete bargain for that motor!

I contacted fleetprices earlier today - they have said that 'the order allocation has been filled' no more orders can be taken and they are removing the listing from their site.

So is this the S8 or A8 ? Two completely different cars?

Well according to ChrisPlante I'm a pauper because I'm "complaining about this deal" so please take it up with him.

It's clearly his opinion that driving around in a pointless flash car you'll never even own makes you rich so those like me who prefer to drive humble cars saving our dough to buy our homes must be poor, right? (_;)

I'm glad we cleared up the fact you do not buy cars at the Frankfurt motorshow, and that you full well know deposits nowhere in the universe count as sales. Now you have been shot down at your own game, after you had initiated insulting replies, you are scampering away because you think "I'm unpleasant."

I'm well within my rights to be amused that between the Mercedes stand at the motorshow and 4 separate dealers you found none to your liking. At this stage of this discussion and seeing all your other replies in this topic, this little HUKD story (bless, I have seen aplenty) it really doesn't surprise me if it is true. You probably had to be escorted out of those dealers the way you try to talk to other people on here, yet still then putting all the blame on other's attitudes.

An entertaining yet not entirely unlikely possibility.

Still the fact remains- S Class >>>>>>>>>>>> S8

Just spoke to Solent Vehicle Leasing - all of the allocation (20 cars) they had has been sold out already.

Build week date of approximately Nov/Dec

I think you might find more exciting ways of blowing daddy's trust fund then buying an Audi Chris

What's cheaper to run out of the 3 liter version of audi a8, 7 series and the s class? If one was buy a used one for about 10k

audi drivers are the new bmw drivers.

What if you can afford a nice house and to lease a nice car?

Just because someone doesn't have 65k to buy a car outright it doesn't mean that they should not lease one. What about the millionaires who hire yachts for vacations because they can't afford $80 million in a single payment to buy it?

Renting and leasing isn't just for people who want to seem richer than they are, it's a viable option used by people of all wealths who would rather not buy and be tied in to the trappings of ownership.

So if you have £500 a month and you want to drive an S8 then go ahead.

I'm afraid none of them do, they just come with aggressive men with very small baby making sausages :grin:

Ahaaaa - but the one on GTA has terrible performance... :disappointed:

Its a 2 yr lease deal on a car with a 3yr warranty .... all you have written above is utterly irrelevant.

Frankfurt motor show isn't where they sell cars.

If you walked into 4 different dealers and all of them treated you like scum I might understand, but that isn't what happened is it? Makes for a good story on HUKD though I suppose :wink:

think that might be BMW :smile:

HAHAHA!!! EXCATLY MATE !!! had the 2008 version of one of these cars. Supercar performance (lambo engine) luxury interior, space, this car is one of the best all round saloons ever made !!! have this over an amg any day of the week !!!!! HAVE SOME HEAT !!! UNBELIEVABLE DEAL !!!! THESE ARE NORMALLY OVER £1000 A MONTH !!!

The audi is aluminium so better petrol consumption. also less body problems. if you get one that's 10-12 years old the road tax is cheaper. If I was getting a BMW it would be the 5 series as they are not much different in size of interior. beware if getting one with more than two owners as they are all very likely to have been clocked. fdsh is essential and check belts have been done and proper oil at right intervals.

the tv in all of them cost about 5k to replace with a digital one. I have run a BMW and an AUdi to 200k+ simply with brakes and tyres replaced. also change gearbox oil even tho they say you don't need to.

it's a gamble on all of them as repairs will be very expensive. good luck only expect around 24 mpg.

by the way, has anyone used this company before ? the reigistered address is a residential housing estate in wigan, and the guy on the phone said they have an office in london? sounds fishy !! any info would be greatly appreciated !!

To be honest bud, you shouldn't be looking at these flagship models to see what's the cheapest to run. You're not going to get 3 Series, C Class, A4 economy. Anyway, If you are looking at them, get the S-Class and you will never look back. It has it all for a pretty penny. Have you riven any of them before? have a go with them first. Also, ignore the 7 series altogether lol.

wowww... this is the best car ever!!! BARGAIN :smile:

I'll stick with my Lexus :smile:

I'm wondering the same, have completed credit check form, but not heard anything back yet.

Hmmm that is an incredible price but I would rather get an S-Class

Tried calling a few dealers and the best i could get is monthlies starting with a 6.

I had a 1999 c180 esprit until it got written off. Mpg on that was awful and the engine size on that heavy body gave it a sluggish performance. I'm talking 0-60 in 12 seconds. On auto trader the c class mpg follows. Urban: 22.2 extra urban 39.2 and average 30:2

On s class 2005 320 cdi it's
Urban : 26.6 Extra urban : 44.1 average 35:8

So on paper the s class will still give me better mpg as well as performance and more practical.

It's the other running costs that I'm a bit worried about.

One dealer gave me quote not far from leasing deals but I'm awaiting approval from other dealer who gave me better quote and I'm on waiting list at broker.

Which dealer was this?

Id love to know which dealer too, as these guys are saying they can only sell 3 of these and the price may change.

Can't reveal it until I get final answer and decide what to do.

​Haha, you're probably right. I do find it funny how I can normally see a black flicker in my mirror and suddenly it turns completely black and chrome - Filled by 4 interlinking rings on the grill of an enormous saloon who wants to do 50 in a 30 :stuck_out_tongue:

Discount depends on how desperate dealer is. If they need to meet the target, they will be more flexible.

I would prefer people to think me a scratcher without two bob to rub together than think me as someone holding bags n bags because I roll about in some overpriced aluminium cage.

Everyone is free to do what they want with their money, of course they are, but to me flash motors that cost stupid money will always be the domain of the mega rich, politicians, gangsters and vain insecure numpties who want to look far more affluent than they actually are.......invariably exactly the types that go crying to old bill and screaming about jealousy in society when their drums get turned over by a couple of 16 year rock heads who targeted their pad because of the pointless blingy motor they cruise about in.

now that's just stupid response.
Unless you are one of those knobs who think that having an audi gives them immunity on the road.
This car is limited to 155mph which further validates my point.

Just a polite reminder that this deal, and leasing in general, is only better value if you actually intended to buy the car in new in the first place.

I must remember not to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.


Frankfurt motor show isn't where they sell cars.

looks like you have never been. when a new model is announced they will take advance orders with a deposit on the stand.

if you read the handbook you will find the engine will run on very low grade in ex communist block countries that use lower grade petrol. it even used to say that you can use parafin in an emergency for a tankfull.

Oh yes, maybe that should be a sticky for leasing threads. - along with 'unlikely to be suitable for bangernomics drivers' - like me. :-)

I have owned an A8 plus many A6 all quattro.

The UK is not a communist state (unless Corbyn wins power).

very true.

Unfortunately the north of the UK does already have a far left and overtly separatist(sorry they claim nationalist) regime in power.

Of course people like fat Alec and his wee poodle Jimmy Krankie, I mean Sturgeon, much prefer to run around in motors like what this thread is about than your good old leftist Trabi but that's by the by hohum

As someone that did want to buy this car and hear user reviews of the lease provider, I've found this thread to be pretty much the most useless I've ever come across.
Some of you seem to have way too much time on your hands trying to convince everyone else that;
-Expensive cars are too expensive
-Leasing is bad
-Audi's are rubbish
-Indicators dont work
-All of the above

And then for those that want to gain and share knowledge on this specific deal, we have to sift through 20 pages of nonsense by which time we're ready to give up on using the site for that purpose.
It's a shame as this site used to be a great resource.

That was about 3 % as funny as you think it was

Why would anyone who wants to BUY this motor have such a keen interest in a thread about leasing it then?

Anyone being on here won't be debt free. Lol. Too many good offers not to be missed :wink:

That's very specific for an approximation.

Why do you keep posting? It's your vile vindictive comments that people are sick of on this thread.

Oh yeah and a Milwall flag with the red hand of ulster and THE rangers flag as your avatar?

Everyone knows what you are. Spouting your nonsense on this post when people are trying to find out more about the deal itself.

Bringing politics in to it and basically branding anyone with different views from you as an idiot. You sir, are the lowest of the low. It needed saying.

Not Frankfurt no, but Geneva because it's the earliest major European show and usually has the newest year models shown there first.

They take deposits but you still have to go to your dealer to sort the rest out and pick up the car. You don't touch your car at the show stand, unless you're buying some mad one off prototype of course. A deposit is a down payment, the sale is confirmed later. Anyone can go and put down a deposit on anything, it's not sold until the paperwork is signed......which you do not do there.

'Deposits' are categorically NOT sales.

Try again? :wink: Semantics clearly aren't your strong suit.

Like I said, nice story for HUKD I'm sure.....

whilst I agree with cerbeea I would not have phrased it in quite that way.

however, the person referred to is not the only narrow minded pia on this thread either. it does seem that some people intentionally misinterpret others posts for their own petty views.

ignore the figures because there was a review that showed how manufacturers fix the mpg figures on test cars. if a car was taken off the production line it would be worth taking into account.

as for the other costs if the mileage is fake then you have problems. I was buying a car from a specialist dealer. one owner, two years old and 106k I took the original dealer details off the number plate and rang them. the car had done nearly 230k !!! it didn't show on steering wheel or pedals/seats. I cancelled deposit and told them the true mileage. a friend rang two weeks later and they were still quoting their fake mileage. I informed trading standards who cautioned them :disappointed: .

on another the dealer had been bought by another chain. the car shown I was interested in had a stamped up fully fake service history with the old dealer name on the stamps. the old dealer stamp can end up anywhere. the new dealer just claimed they knew nothing about it.

the point is that these cars can be used for very very high mileage and it not show.

Have we all forgotten AUDI get along? Play nice ppl

Interesting. I was watching you through my telescope as you typed that on your phone...
(for the benefit of Carrie.F, that is again an attempt at British humour. I do not, and have never owned a telescope. Also he typed it on his laptop, not his phone).

That was a pretty awesome price. I'm not a fan of Audi's or any VAG car but I may have seriously leased this just so I could show off in the local area and still not get the girl.

However the Merc S63(?) thumps this.

Good grief guys.

Sighting freedom of speech on a thread that was supposed to be about an offer on a particular car ?

My point was simple. The derogatory comments were about a different car entirely to the one in the offer. People were avoiding stating that and actually didn't answer when asked a direct question. This was misleading and some people seemed to be doing it for political/ envy/ social/ whatever reasons rather than to assist anyone in possibly choosing this deal.

So if a Suzuki 750 motorbike has mechanical engine problems and someone posts a deal on a Suziki car is it reasonable to say how unreliable Suziki are ? Their motorbikes may be but it doesn't mean that their cars are ! Yes, both Suzuki but very different beasts. (btw, it's an example, not a fact).

maybe I should just leave it to the snobs, reverse snobs and hypocrites tho.

Sadly not, however you do get your own lane on the motorway

I like bins :smile: it is online m8 come on :smile: And you just referred to everyone buying an Audi as being a Mug and all Germans are Nazis lol classic. Thats about as personnal as you can get bin diving or not, glad you stopped posting......oh wait a min lol. You may just be having a laugh which is fine but you did intent on ruffling a few feathers I'm sure.

Pretty awesome cars, but ultimately where the hell do you park something like this? The car parks I frequent are barely big enough for my 3 series, and one of our friends with an A6 kept getting doors dinged because parking spaces were barely big enough for it. An A8? Great in the US, Canada or some parts of Germany, not so great in the little old UK though.

N.b. also worth pointing out if buying new these can be had with huge discounts, no one in their right mind would pay the £81k list, so that's pointless in any calculations.

I got better deal directly from Audi, as a few other people. Cars definitely existed and it wasn't misprice.
I saw the deal on Thursday and contacted broker on Friday morning. They were already running out of available cars. Deal was posted here a bit too late to get the car.

Probably the most sensible comment on this thread.. well said !!

I personally steer away from lease deals myself but to vote cold because you don't like it is a bit childish just don't vote at all

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Does an RS8 exist?

Oh someone had to go and spoil it eh, I have spent the last day or two chuckling away about that small detail you've just mentioned X) everyone waffling on about their garages full of super cars and what a great deal it is when it don't even exist any more.

I will no doubt be accused of posting "vile vindictive" comments again but when I find people that are funny I laugh at them, and this thread is full of characters like that X) comedy gold

Deals is gone because cars were allocated.

Your comment made me laugh, just a question, you do know how you come across right. Everything your pertaining not to be literally jumps of the screen as you absolutely are.
Some people do prioritise vehicle spending differently to yourself. A car may well be a symbol for them to express there doing well in life but this is pretty common tbh and shouldnt be looked down upon. Supporting a particular football club is also a by product of social acceptance so horses for courses really. You prioritise one above the other yourself (Unless your a settee supporter). Anyway this was a good deal if this car is what you were wanting. I will continue to attempt to become debt free but dont have the cash to pay of my mortgage just yet, hey ho.

Pertaining blimey now there's a word, I guess you could view me like that if you wanted to but of course I would beg to differ. Being a father of two teenage sons back in Blighty I take the opinion that leaving them some bricks n mortar when my time comes is far more responsible parenting than running them up to the tube station in a flash motor to impress the world and his wife in the present.

A symbol of doing well in life as you put it, but then again if you got a 40 grand motor parked outside your local authority owned home that you pay reduced rent on are you really doing that well? I would suggest it's quite the opposite and if that means I am perceived to be looking down at those types for their financial stupidity then I am guilty as charged.

As for digging me out on my team, the social acceptance of my football club is about as non existent as it gets wouldn't you agree? Our name has been bashed even in this very thread, most likely by someone who follows a big rich successful club which he may also see as a symbol of himself eh? For what it's worth I am very anti modern football so even when I am about on match days, be it back home in London or here in Wien, I tend to just go to the pub around the ground catching up with friends rather than going in to the games. Funnily enough I will be up drinking around the Prater tomorrow seeing 5000 Ajax are in town and it's Rapid's biggest game in years but I still won't be going in to the Happel to watch the match so I guess I am a 'settee supporter' then hohum

I stopped posting on this deal because some of the comments were getting a bit too personal. I'm all up for a bit of rough and tumble banter but it gets a bit creepy when people start checking out your profile and past deals/comments for stuff to use against you. It's like people rummaging through your bins. Yuk!
Anyway... I see that while I've been away, the Mods have been at it. ChrisPlante's popular 'pauper' comment has been axed. Shame really. It was funny and I'm sure wasn't really being serious. However I have a feeling it wasn't an original comment. I'm sure I've seen it before on HUKD...
Now this thread has almost run its course, I got to musing what the great Herr Doktor Winterkorn might make of it in the event that one of his untermensch brought it to his attention. I suspect he would be instantly impressed that this Audi deal got red hot. He would also be pleased that many of his customers are well satisfied and ready to defend the brand to the death.
However his joy would probably quickly turn to anger when he sussed that the implied 'new' value of one of his flagship motors was a mere £50.3k (£13.9k 2 year lease plus £36.4k 2 year residual value) as opposed to the £81k list. The economics of these small run 'specials' only works if people pay close to the full margin price. He would want to know who sanctioned this deal and why. Time to break out the cyanide capsules perhaps?
However I suspect the thing that would give him most cause for concern would be the fact that the comments about Audi being the new Jag and Audis drinking oil resonated with so many people. No doubt some folks who 'liked' just thought they were a lark but perception of brands is a funny old thing. People talk. They hear things. Some will check on those things to get more information. Then they make judgements which they communicate to other people.
The Audi oil consumption problem was a national scandal in the US. Here in the UK, almost no-one has heard of it. Read the pages of AutoCar and the other motoring rags and you would think 'Problem? What problem?'. Do more people in the UK know about it now? Yes, of course they do and in reading about the oil consumption problem, they inevitably read about the other problems that have so afflicted Audi owners. They will also become aware that Audi, surprisingly given their 'premium brand' cache, have been truly awful in the past at acknowledging the legitimate complaints of their customers. He would be right to worry that Audi is a damaged brand in the UK.
Finally can I add that I have never been that impressed by German engineering. There's always a hint of showy-offy-ness about it. Biggest, fastest, quietest...even when they are doing understated, it always alludes to it being the most understated. And for me, this points to the real genius of the Germans...they are unrivalled masters at understanding the psychology of people who feel superior. What else would you expect from the master race? This makes them experts at pandering to the needs of a certain type of Brit, the ones that feel just a bit special. This is okay as long as you remember that, however special you might think you are, the Germans will always instinctively regard you as inferior and just another mug to be parted from his money.

libelous remark where is your evidence !
the only Audi engine with issues was the 2.0

If you just take a couple of seconds to reflect on this, you might just realise that the comment is an attempt at humour; what us menfolk call 'a joke'. It might help you understand if you sued me and then got 'laughed out of court' and then 'the joke' would be on you. Alles klar?

ahh so you stopped posting because it became personal ?

so when you and some others were posting about engine problems it was for an entirely different car with an entirely different engine made in an entirely different place ?

not really too relevant to the thread then, was it ?

some people manage to drive around in "flash motors" AND know they will be leaving there kids some nice houses.
maybe you need to spend less cash in pubs........ make your money work for you and that "flash motor" need not be a drain on your finances

For the current models sure. There are RS8's in the past. This is an S for a reason.

If I had the choice of the current S4 or the very last RS4 saloon. I'll take the RS4 all day.

Look at previous models. Not just the now.

Seems 'some people' who are suggesting they are successful in life don't even know the difference between there and their, along with ignoring the fact I specifically pinpointed council house tenants with big motors but it's ok as I've seen the light now.

Your friendly word in my ear to avoid my once in a blue moon trip down to the pub with a few pals has been taken on board and I'll be able to move in to a pad next door to big kosher Al Sugar down Manor Road Chigwell within a year now woohoo :grin:

All hail Spring Bruce, financial adviser of the year 2015 :face_with_monocle: you indeed are the dross!

I agree, a wealthy person wouldn't even touch a car like this.

Jonni Boy, I think you are being deliberately obtuse.
Talking about Audi, however cutting or sarcastically, on a HUKD thread about an Audi car is fair game. If Audi have messed up in the past (which they have) and I think that that might be important to someone buying an Audi in the future, then yes, I can legitimately talk about that. If the rules restricted us such that we could only comment on very specific items in a narrow way, then we would have some very short threads and probably no HUKD community!
On the other hand, if you think someone might be checking through your HUKD background, going through old posts, assembling a picture of what you drive and how much you earn, what type of person you are, etc, etc, then that's very definitely NOT fair game because that's how online stalking starts. Look I do understand if your views aren't the same as mine but HUKD thrives on the fact that it's a free-speech zone. Be thankful for this...

Did anyone on hear get an 'allocation'? I refer to my previous post... did it really exist? I inquired but they did not reply to a couple of queries and then responded with ... they are all allocated and the price is now mid 700's!

Seems like it was a misprice.

More likely an allocation of a one or two cars to stir up interest. Its worked too!

They're free to online stalk me if they want, I'm just an ignorant illiterate untravelled dreg who got kicked out of school at 15 and drives a scratchy little car.

Having my own personal stalker who will no doubt be an über intellectual and a high flying pillar of society may even give me just a glimmer of the self worth that all the successful folk get from driving their big powerful mean machines about (_;)

I managed to get one ordered today from my local dealer. I managed to get mine for 325+VAT (6+23).

It wasn't a misprice, Audi wanted to get a certain number of these out the door and in to build. I got an S7 on a similar deal, delivery in November ! A lot of the lease companies do special offers and it quite often is related to main dealer sales or build targets.

Also to the person commenting around the RS8, there was never an RS8 of any model.
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​There's never been an RS8. The RS7 is the closest you'll get.
Unless I've severely overlooked something and you'd like to provide a link?

I trust it's a telescope you picked up from a tip off HUKD?

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Oh dear there's always one eh? That's been the case for at least 48 hours now and has even been covered a page or two back which makes this continuing thread all the more amusing X)

It's getting pretty obvious that we are just going to have to agree to disagree. This is turning into an pointless saga so this is my last post on what is fast becoming a dead thread.

I've re-read all my comments and even if I say so myself, I think what I wrote has been well argued and informative. I have argued that Audi's have acquired a REPUTATION for unreliability and consuming oil. In the light of the facts, how can you possibily argue against this statement? This very day, up and down the land, Audi TFSI's are going into Audi garages to either have new pistons/rings fitted or where the bore is scored, a brand new engine. This is a huge repair requiring about 12+ hours of full-on mechanic time to which you can add on more garage time for all the pre-tests Audi insist on doing. It doesn't matter that is was only a few models from specific years, a REPUTATION is, by definition a judgement based on limited data.
Okay, I'll put it in simple terms...a woman who sleeps with a colleague...even if it was just once...get's a reputation in the office for being 'easy'. The judgement that people apply is clearly that if it can happen once, it can happen again. That's how reputation works.
Your 'specific car' argument only makes sense if in 2007 Audi has said, up front, this is our new TFSI engine, it will work okay for x thousand miles but after that it will consume ridiculous amounts of oil, do untold damage to other parts of your engine, oh, and by the way if you're outside of your warranty, don't expect any help from us until 2015. But they didn't say that did they? Audi wriggled and squirmed in a state of utter denial for years and years. So how can you be absolutely sure that the Audi in this post will not suffer the same fate? Maybe it won't, let's say for the sake of argument that it definitely won't, but that's immaterial if you judge any future new car on the acquired reputation of the supplier? Remember the Rusty Lancia Club? Were all Lancia's rust buckets? Almost certainly not but the reputational damage caused by a few very bad cars was enough to destroy the brand in the UK.
Look, I'm assuming that you're a hard working professional guy who's educated to a relatively high standard. This being so, I'll further assume that you have considerable insight into how people in general think and behave. My guess is that intellectually you understand precisely the points I've made. You may not want to agree with them because you're a satisfied Audi owner which is fine but you do understand the arguments.
Okay, I'm off to make derogatory comments about the new Moto G now (even though I own one). No doubt some people will object to what I say but others will agree. It's what HUKD is all about.
This is Joe90 signing off....enjoy!

Don't sign off yet, I enjoy your contributions because I sense the Audista faction in this thread do not.

As I have revealed a few times now I just drive a diddy little old Mazda 2 so I'm just the sort of prudent scumbag luxury car leasing companies would like to vaporise in Belsen.

What I'm getting at is I really don't get the car thing and talking about alloy wheels, engines and reliability is not my specialist subject.

When I took my ickle run around in to Jagis Mazda for it's annual service and Pickerl they gave me a brand new Mazda 3 courtesy car. It was like getting in the cockpit of one of charlatan O'Leary's Airbuses, big huge flat screen on the dash, a sound system that went BOOM BOOM BOOM! Blimey for a minute I thought I was Eazy E crusing down Compton, I realise he's been brown bread for 20 odd years but 'ya'll knoooww whata sayn' :sunglasses: I was even able to connect my nok I berry mobile telecommunication apparatus to the wireless via red fang! And then the engine it went VROOM VROOM VROOM like the Williams Renault Ferrari engine Lewis Hamilton has got in his Lotus rally 1 car!

What I'm trying to say is that even the most satisfied Audi owner would have been jealous of me posing around the streets of Burgenland in my baggy magnet yesterday, surely they would? I even done the elevated arm on the window to look extra cool and wore my Lazio baseball cap, that way someone might have mistaken me as Italian because everyone knows they just got that thing the rest of us in the world ain't hmmmm yeah style and class that's it

What mileage allowance did you get and what was the excess mileage charge please ?

Thanks,

I took 5K miles with 10.80 ppm excess. It was cheaper than paying for more miles upfront. So 10K miles will be extra £1080.

thanks , i will try to win 2016 too......dont get too hung up on "council house tenants with big motors"

no

Have you actually driven a merc. I have driven most, admittedly not the s class, and they are awful to drive - a yesteryear gearbox and clutch set up, unlike the audi. They are also mega expensive compared to Audis.

An s class coupe starts at....wait for it.....£185K - after options its well past £200K - you could buy a decent supercar car for that, like a McLaren 650s !!!

Laughable price for an ugly car. In fact most BMWs and mercs are ugly

Yes, really. Did you actually attend school and go to maths classes ? It's like putting water in a jar with a hole in it, and then revelling on how cool your jar is...even though by the time you use it again there NOTHING IN IT ! Renting cars is not owning them.

S class coupe? This Audi is clearly a saloon, and that is the model S class I referred to, if it wasn't very blatantly implied when I mentioned luxobarge. It's fairly obvious tbh, the saloon is the competitor here, and they start at ~£70k.

You said it yourself- you haven't driven the S class. Who even talks about clutches and manual gearboxes for S class models? Or any large luxury car? It's an executive saloon packed with state of the art tech to cosset you and waft around in, not a hot hatch!

So dismiss the rest of your post about prices and supercars, not really accurate or relevant.

Thanks very much & and am also really pleased with the deal. My last car was bought second hand for £32k and sold 18 months later, privately, with a lot of stress, for £21k.

Similar performance to this so the idea that the extra £3k I'm paying over 2 years vs my previous experience is justifiable. For the extra, I get a car with new consumables, no MOT to worry about, fully warranted for the time I own it and paid up road tax. At the end of it, they get the keys and I get a few days of my life back not waiting in for people to view the car and haggling over the price.

Oh Spring I can see you clearly consider yourself a far more successful, educated and articulate individual than me, which may well be true, but come on I've already revealed I got booted out of my second secondary school at 15 years old with zero GCSE's so that's hardly the mother of all assumptions and boasts is it?

Thing is though it can't be doing your old Etonian ego any good keep getting pulled by a loud mouth 'Cockney' oik on your persistent lapses in Her Majesty's English, this time by omitting apostrophes in your response :face_with_monocle: how very unprofessional of you eh.

Of course if you're an intellectual red who hates public schools do forgive me for mentioning Eton, I'll assume you went to somewhere like that Trotskyist comprehensive in Hampstead that the Milibands and their ilk all went to instead.

I like to be inclusive with my amateur attempts at psychoanalysing those who are obviously socially superior to me don't you know? (_;)

Hi,

What site did you get this info from? would like to check it out for other cars :smile:

thanks

Hi KL88. Karlie88 answered this on page three of this thread - it was taken from What Car :smile:
EDIT: Actually it was page 2, comment #40.

Hi cerbeea - can you drop me a message with the details of where you ordered your S7 from, and what deal you got? Thanks (I'm a new member, so HUKD won't let me send private messages yet!).

i would like to know this as well.

exact same car ? it's a steal at that price. which is your local deal would it be still available.

You should be embarrassed about your grammar!

Your reply and previous posts say more about you than mine do about me :smile:

oh dear

Is this deal still on? What the best deal through the dealers did people get?

Check Freedom contracts, they have the same deal but it says business only.

Best deal through dealers 2280 + 23*390 that's with VAT.

Can u tell me which dealer please . Thanks

Sorry, can't. Check out " Best Lease Car deals available" thread on Pistonheads. Page 415 onwards.

so let me get this straight:-
BMW = Drug dealer
Mercedes = Taxi
Audi = Chav

so what do you all drive then?

Protons.

I drive a Mazda 2 and when I get it to go vroom vroom vroom breaking the speed limit I receive the exact same speeding tickets(no points here in Austria) as any of the native melts or gastarbeiters do in their big German manufactured autos.

Ironic how most of them claim to dislike their big neighbour to the west with a passion though :wink:

I bought my S8 at a year old and it is now two. I had an A8 and GTR before it and it combines the best of both. The performance, especially tuned is incredible. Noise, comfort, toys fantastic. Brakes are great, steering isn't bad. It has never understeered, whereas my GTR oversteered every trip. The S8 oversteers slightly and I find it very amusing. I took it to the drag strip and did 11.38 quarter mile in the damp. Performance wise, you'd need an S63 to get anywhere near, but for similar money you'd get a six cylinder diesel S class with half the power. So yes it is a poor man's S class, I'm happy with that.

Just got an A8 taxi in Dijon. Beautiful luxurious car

Can't believe it, but I just got emails telling me about messages I received 2 years ago regarding this thread. I apologise for not replying, I was not aware of them.

My S8 goes back soon, being replaced by another A8 in promotional price.