Amazing spec - satnav, heated leather seats, panoramic roof, bluetooth+USB, parking sensors, dual zone climate control, cruise and speed limit control, 7" touch screen & more.
Choose the "custom" option on the nationalvehiclesolutions website to get the 1+17 deal - this means you pay 1 month up front as the deposit and 17 monthly payments - £166.52 deposit & £166.52 PM and only £199 admin fee, plus free delivery.
It should be noted that this deal is identical to the Vehicle savers one but with a lower admin fee - £199 compared to £360 at Vehicle savers.
Credit checks usually take them a few hours, standard colour is solid white and the estimate delivery will be July.
Credit is due to Karlie88 who found the original deal on vehicle savers and EvilGazebo who spotted this on national vehicle solutions, I'm posting the deal on their behalf for HUKD users who haven't read the comments in the original deal.
Peugeot are advertising this as having 208hp for the 2015 model compared with 200hp for the older versions.
Top comments
ollie87
3 Jun 1571#109
I'm gonna have a look now for the idiots who can't handle it. See what I can buy for £3,200 that does 0-60mph in under 7 seconds, does 47mpg or more, costs £130 or less a year to tax, and has a 5 Star NCAP rating.
Oh wait, it's done 160,000 miles. Oh wait it costs £225 to tax a year. Oh wait it only does 42mpg. Oh wait it's only got 4 NCAP stars instead of 5. Oh wait it costs a million pounds to service and will need an MOT doing. Hmm, it's also a 12 year old BMW, people will probably think you're a drug dealer and probably not even a very good one.
Oh wait, it only does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds. Oh wait it only does 33mpg. Oh wait it costs £290 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait this model is so old it doesn't even have an NCAP rating.
0-60 in 6.4 seconds? Check! Oh wait, it only does 31mpg. Oh wait it costs £290 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait this model is so old it doesn't even have an NCAP rating. And it needs a load of work doing. We nailed the speed though!
0-60 in 6.9? Check! Oh wait it only does 34mpg. Oh wait it costs £265 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait it only has 4 NCAP stars.
****! Sorry, I give up.
lovelybeer
3 Jun 1567#171
This sort of thread really gets me moist :smile:
For those who understand lease deals: Great deal, right? Might not be a suitable car for you personally, but no denying the financials! Good work, have a gold star. Feel content that you aren't being completely backward in refusing to understand differing points of view.
For those who DON'T understand leasing (and that appears to be a LOT of you):
* This is a NEW car, not used
* Depreciation on a new car bought outright will be MORE than what the lease cost is over 18 months on this car.
* No registration fee to pay on the car's first year of tax
* No VED to pay on new leased car
* Used cars a bit older will need MOT
* Both old and new will need a service!
* Old cars ... ALSO DEPRECIATE! Good god -no surprise there, so don't ignore it
* Buying a used car for £3-£4k requires £3-£4k of cash up-front (i.e. NOW!). That is money you need to either save, or tie up in your vehicle. A risk - especially if your valuation of your car is not what someone else is prepared to pay. It works both ways, however!
* Leased cars (new, I might add!) spread costs out over the term of the lease. This is called cash-flow. This is fundamental to business and life in general. Smooth cash flow, means a smooth life. No bottle-necks.
* Both new/old need insurance
* Old car bought outright means as much mileage as you like, but increased likelihood of repairs required for incremental mileage
* You can sell your used/owned outright car at any time. A lease is a contract. A contract is legally binding. They're not easy to get out of. Buyer beware.
* Both cars can make use of GAP insurance.
* Used cars are not the most recent model in many cases. Some people don't care and view cars as a simple tool. Others may require to be in a newer vehicle for work purposes. People have different wants and needs.
Golden rules for everyone:
If you can't afford the payments, don't do it!
If you don't want a NEW car, don't do it!
If you want to take the risks on buying a used car and the associated benefits of it being reliable and costing next to nil to maintain, before selling onwards, don't do it!
If you don't understand, don't do it!
Platinum rules for everyone:
If it appreciates, BUY IT.
If it depreciates, RENT IT.
n.b. there are occasional exceptions to the rule. Cars are not really one of those exceptions.
If you're still unsure:
Think of a holiday. You spend £2000+. At the end of it, you don't get to keep the hotel to sell on. Nor the swimming pool, aircraft or airport. You have nothing to show for it except a tan if you're lucky. You have had the benefit of enjoyment.
A car is not dissimilar. Lease deals are great for people who want new cars and don't want to tie up vast sums of cold, hard cash up-front. Plain and simple facts. Easy.
If you STILL don't get it:
Log out, and don't try and reply. Ever. On a lease deal. There is no hope for you.
tldr; these deals get hot for a reason. If you don't understand, put some time aside and try to, before spouting utter nonsense and garbage.
skinnyman9000
2 Jun 1514#49
Life lesson:
2nd hand cars are cheaper to buy than new ones.
Sure glad I browsed on here tonight, that gem might have passed me by.
karlie88
3 Jun 1513#107
£3 for a sandwich?! And what do you have to show for it at the end? Trapped wind...
Go and buy a decent used sandwich from a colleague at work for a fraction of the price. Granary bread tends to be the most reliable and filling...
Latest comments (1927)
markvirgo
11 Apr 17#1927
New car was ment to be delivered today but after chasing I have been told that they have found some damage and it won't be delivered toaday.
Anyone else had this, if so how long will the delay be and will I get anything extra for waiting?.
bootymaster
30 Mar 17#1926
Same, with any luck i'll have the car this time next week!
markvirgo
29 Mar 17#1925
Finaly received them today
bootymaster
28 Mar 17#1924
I had the same on Friday morning but radio silence since then
markvirgo
24 Mar 17#1923
Had an email from NVS saving dealer is prepairing them today.
Hopefully receive them on Monday
bootymaster
24 Mar 17#1922
They'll have a busy week next week by the sounds of it, didn't get them through today.
markvirgo
24 Mar 17#1921
Having the same issue, car goes back on the 12th April and been told I need to take the new car delivery before the tax change on 31st March.
I said that will be OK
Finance docs should have been with me last Monday but still not had them.
I can't do without a car as I need it for work.
bootymaster
24 Mar 17#1920
Only a scuffed alloy for me, £65 charge - hopefully be waived as it was only small.
Having a nightmare getting the new car delivered by NVS, after being told it was 2 weeks away from delivery at the start of February i'm still chasing for them to raise the finance paperwork (2 weeks at the moment), it's pretty pitiful, they've previously told me it had to be delivered before the 31st of March.
markvirgo
16 Mar 17#1919
Not sure how much but I will find out
Online quote was, The provisional value of your vehicle is £11925
kpj35
16 Mar 17#1918
No way!!! That's really annoying considering I've enquired & been turned flatly down. In actual fact, I received a 2nd letter today, reminding me that the lease is coming to the end & that I should ring them within 30 days of the lease end date to arrange the return! How much out of interest?
markvirgo
16 Mar 17#1917
Anyone had the offer to buy either for cash or finance?.
Had a letter today, shame as I have already ordered the replacement.
bootymaster
15 Mar 17#1916
Good info, thanks! Just the one wheel for me so hopefully it'll slide!
gwernham
15 Mar 171#1915
Yea, I did. I threatened that after I paid the £260 that I would go to Citizens Advice, Small Claims, Social media (Facebook etc) forums and complain. They said in essence :
Untreated rust/corrosion is considered abnormal wear, however further to our conversation today I will as a gesture of good will, and to prevent further escalation remove the £260.00 you have been charged.
So all in all a good outcome. I think they just try it on.
Hope you don't get charged!
soldierboy001
15 Mar 171#1914
I might as well be, this is Spain. Have to use WiMax as on a caravan park with no landline availability.
markvirgo
14 Mar 17#1913
4 mins and 22 seconds? Are you still on dial up?, get with the times! Hahaha
bootymaster
14 Mar 17#1912
I've noticed mine has some corrosion on the outer rim of one of my wheels, certainly wasn't caused by me. Have you had any joy with them waiving the penalty charge?
soldierboy001
13 Mar 17#1911
Useful piece of information, I put that into my address bar and in 4 mins and 22 seconds I had that information on my screen. The wonders of modern technology.
CPC85
13 Mar 17#1910
Has anybody got Manheim, collection services telephone number?
davver99
6 Mar 17#1909
Looks good
Can't wait till my new car comes Wednesday been on order since Sept 29
blackandamber
6 Mar 171#1908
I only have the one but gives an idea of colour.
iq938
5 Mar 17#1907
My car went back few days ago it will be missed.
They found 2 small dents during inspection which were within limits so i didn't get charged. Overall they were happy.
I have bought a Nissan Qashqai now as I have a 1 yr old and its going well.
davver99
5 Mar 17#1906
no pic of new car :disappointed:
blackandamber
3 Mar 171#1905
My return and delivery all went smoothly, the inspection was very thorough, two guys spent 15 minutes going over it with a fine tooth comb. Happy to report by the end of it they thanked me for the immaculate condition the car was in and away it went leaving my new one parked on the drive.
This was my first lease experience handing back a car and its been a good one. I guess leasing suits people who look after their cars, if you don't its probably not for you or you have plenty of money to pay them to fix it up.
Now, what do I get in two years time? HaHa
davver99
28 Feb 17#1904
because they can :wink:
davver99
28 Feb 17#1903
mine went upto leicester
was on an offer in september £246 5k miles i picked 9 upfront and i picked the auto was a bit extra
i knew i wasn't going to get anything good for same as Peugeot so was trying to find a deal and it popped up been a long wait though
kpj35
28 Feb 17#1902
Did you get a good deal on it? I'm currently looking at the Astra Elite or SRi for the Mrs. Both work out at just under £4100 for a 24mth contract & 5k miles. Will be sad to see the Pug go. I actually enquired through Vauxhall if they'd sell it to me, but was told they don't do that & that the car is taken directly to the closest auction to me once picked up, & that I can ask the inspector on the day where that would be, then basically follow it & buy it back at the auction!!! Surely more cost effective to just sell it directly to me? It also makes me wonder why Pug charge anyone for minor damage if the car's never gonna be in their possession again?
davver99
28 Feb 17#1901
well new car is booked in for delivery 8/3 bmw m140i counting down the days
gwernham
25 Feb 17#1900
I got the letter a couple of days ago saying they were going to take the money from my account via DD on the 6th March.
Bikerdanny
25 Feb 17#1899
Has PSA actually charged you the £260 ? Or was that just what the inspected said you would have to pay ? I wouldn't personally do anything until they tried to invoice me and then contest the claim. Certainly wouldn't pay first.
xoddsockthiefx
25 Feb 17#1898
From the sound of it the collection guy has messed up. He is suppose to check for damage and distinguish between user damage and manufacture damage/fault.
Peugeot once they have a human that actual reads the report rather than a computer/admin. They won't charge.
markvirgo
24 Feb 17#1897
Don't understand that if it's a warranty issue why they can't get it fixed under warranty
All Peugeot at the end of the day
soldierboy001
24 Feb 17#1896
Yes the sooner the better. You could try citizens advice but sometimes you have to wait for an appointment.
davver99
24 Feb 17#1895
No paint marks or alloy marks
gwernham
24 Feb 17#1894
They advised me to pay and then if the review is successful they will refund me the money.
Should I take it up with trading standards now?
gwernham
24 Feb 17#1893
Did you have any marks on your wheels? I live up in north Scotland, so we have more wet/snow and salt up here.
soldierboy001
24 Feb 17#1892
Never pay first, take it up with trading standards.
davver99
24 Feb 17#1891
Well mine has just gone no defects very good collection experience
gwernham
24 Feb 17#1890
BTW I got a Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8 TSI 192PS 3dr to replace the PUG (based on price). I think it's a nicer drive than the Pug but not so many toys in it.
gwernham
24 Feb 17#1889
My Pug got picked up nearly two weeks ago. Inspector marked down all four wheels as having corrosion. They have charged me £260 in total.
Car was looked after so well.
Inspector said that the wheels are particularly bad for corrosion.
He had to mark them down on the form, but he said they are not any form of damage caused by the customer. He has seen the same issue on these models.
Peugeot do not use the same wheels anymore due to the issue.
He said that customers were usually never made aware that they should get wheels repaired under warranty. We certainly never were told.
Car got serviced 6 months ago at the main dealer, and they did not say anything.
I have opened up a review case with them and will be pressing hard to get the charges waived. However I am advised to pay them first.
We will have to wait and see.
markvirgo
23 Feb 17#1888
Same as me, I have mine comming on the 12th April :smiley:
blackandamber
23 Feb 172#1887
Same again but in metalic red, I had a look about for other but to be honest I like the car and it suit me and my wifes needs very well.
davver99
23 Feb 17#1886
what have you gone for
blackandamber
23 Feb 17#1885
Mine is being collected on the 2nd March and fingers crossed the new one is being delivered on the same day!
davver99
23 Feb 17#1884
have you booked collection yet tou do need to be there to sign paperwork and sign for damage if any mine goes tomorrow
bootymaster
22 Feb 17#1883
Collection, my new car is due 31st of March.
davver99
22 Feb 17#1882
are you taking about the collection and inspection ?
bootymaster
21 Feb 17#1881
What was your guys turn around on getting the car collected? My understanding is it's not done over the phone, is done with paperwork?
davver99
20 Feb 17#1880
good price
xoddsockthiefx
20 Feb 17#1879
Mine went on the 10th. No damage at all.
Just signed all the dealer paperwork for my next lease today. Hopefully delivery will be 5th March.
Scirocco R for 237pm 3+23.
Can't wait. :smile:
No mate, used it as a second vehicle, had a look around but cant find anything that comes anywhere close to this deal
davver99
17 Feb 17#1875
Did it get replaced?
zermattbusby
17 Feb 17#1874
Mine went back last Friday :disappointed:
Nothing extra to pay
Will certainly miss it
davver99
17 Feb 17#1873
sad times mine goes next friday
SergioGeorgini
17 Feb 17#1872
Just had mine collected :disappointed: Sad day.
I had quite a bad scuff on one of my alloy wheels, which the inspector picked up on, however, they haven't charged me anything according to the report. I guess I'll be charged after its gone through a more detailed inspection at the depot? I've read several people have been charged £65, which isn't too bad.
davver99
14 Feb 17#1871
i have 1 should be wear and tear
bootymaster
14 Feb 17#1870
If your company leases cars to their employees see if your fleet manager can get hold of the BVRLA guidelines for you. It'll detail what can be considered as wear and tear etc... Exampe from GE Capital.
markvirgo
14 Feb 17#1869
Hi all
Anyone been charged for stone chips to bonnet or a chip in the windscreen?
I know it says chips in windscreen are chargeable in the paperwork.
davver99
14 Feb 17#1868
when is the last payment or is it going early
bootymaster
13 Feb 17#1867
Am i the only one that finds PSA finance difficult to work with? Just rang for a quote for my car to be collected on the 24th of March... they gave me an early settlement as of today, and not for March 24th? Or am i just doing this wrong?
davver99
30 Jan 17#1866
thanks all sorted did get a bit worried as he said can collect from the 8th i thought me was talking about march but it was feb.8th was the soonest
lease ends 26th so collection is Friday the 24th time has gone so quick
nrps1
30 Jan 171#1865
I 'think' it is 0345 3133809 Option 1 - written on a post-it note on my desk with no name!
davver99
30 Jan 17#1864
has anyone got the number for manheim collection left the bit of paper at home
davver99
29 Jan 17#1863
Going to call tomorrow to get it booked in hopefully for the 28th of Feb
nrps1
26 Jan 17#1862
Well I wasn't present, but gf was. They go over with a fine tooth comb and 'suggest' fees for noted damages. You must be there or anything can be said really.
I waited two months for collection, agreed a £500 early end fee, but have had £441 taken in rental since I first got that. According to Pug they will still charge the £500 (plus damages which is 0 in my case) then refund the £441.... Got the letter yesterday saying no fee, but no real mention of monies to pay other than I'll get a debtors notice soon and not to be worried about it... Sigh
scuba simmo
26 Jan 17#1861
I've contacted peugeot several times over a three weeks period stating that I wanted to return car early as car is not been used and parked off the road , was informed a letter would be sent out, needless to say im still waiting.... Frustratingy I have now been charged my final payment ! Manheim are due to collect next week, I was initially informed that I would get a quote at time of inspection for any damage to agree a fee, now I've been told I don't need to be there for the inspection and i will have no initial quote is that correct?
nrps1
25 Jan 171#1860
Fees waived, although I should think so tbh!
scuba simmo
20 Jan 17#1859
Thanks for the replies, will be interesting to see how much I get quoted!
nrps1
19 Jan 17#1858
No, just said Peugeot will be in touch via email or post.
bootymaster
19 Jan 17#1857
Do they expect payment when they pick it up, or are they advised costs?
nrps1
18 Jan 17#1856
Yeah sure, fingers crossed eh!
Bikerdanny
18 Jan 17#1855
VS and NVS were the brokers, surely it was Mannheim that came and inspected the car ? I would wait and let pug get in touch, some peeps on here have had damage charges waived.
nrps1
18 Jan 17#1854
Hmm, not sure with alloys, but I'm with VS not the normal NVS most people here are with.
davver99
18 Jan 17#1853
dont marks have to be over a maximum size ?
nrps1
17 Jan 17#1852
Very good to know! My car was just picked up after a 2 month £75 insurance wait. They initially refused to take it as my private plate was removed as per peugeot instructions but they hadn't been informed, took an hour to agree... Then they found the smallest of scuffs on one alloy, only damage, but said I'll have to pay £65, even though car has 5k less miles than I was allowed... Not overly happy at the moment!
lukefez
17 Jan 171#1851
The report said on £65 on mine. But then Peugeot sent me a final bill and waived the £65 charge so will maybe do the same for you.
lukefez
17 Jan 17#1850
scuba simmo
17 Jan 17#1849
Hi guys, my car is due for collection in next week or so , will be sad see it go back! , just covered over the 15k mileage! I have one alloy that has been kerbed , thinking of swapping it over for the full size spare, I'm guessing the inspection company check that , are the prices they quote for damage reasonable? As also have a very slight 4 inch mark on bumper? Thanks in advance
Bikerdanny
14 Jan 172#1848
Maybe like a yob grandad
tomd2100
14 Jan 17#1847
Mine hasn't been standard since last march. Its making 230bhp and yeah I tend to put my foot down a lot haha
EvilGazebo
13 Jan 17#1846
I dunno.....I don't think of myself as a quick driver but mine went back with 11.5k and only 3mm on the fronts. Either you drive like a grandad Danny or you're having all your fun in your other hot hatch?
Bikerdanny
13 Jan 17#1845
Blimey you must have been hooning it everywhere, I'm at 14k now and still have another 5k worth of life at a guess.
tomd2100
13 Jan 17#1844
Mine is due back in May so have a few months left. Had to replace both front Tyres at 10,000 miles when i took it for its service. Used the spare as one of them.
nrps1
12 Jan 171#1843
This is the problem. I only did 3k in the Pug (London, sigh), but now have a Fiesta ST3 with all extras, Mountune performance kit to improve upon the Pugs power, and go faster stripes to boot! Costing a lot more, 2k deposit and £267 a month from the £1k/£147, but is actually a better/faster/nicer looking car (albeit with a less swanky system inside) and goes like absolute stink!
I feel you though, I pained over reviews/cars/deals non stop for a while to find something as an acceptable upgrade, I will never downgrade if I can help it!
magicow
12 Jan 17#1842
Sorry, forgot to say thanks for your advice! I'm going to test drive one and decide from there - although I have spoiled myself with the GTI :disappointed:
Bikerdanny
12 Jan 17#1841
I'm gonna be at 14.5k by the time I give it back, so got my use out of it :smiley: Really gonna miss this car.
magicow
12 Jan 17#1840
Yeah... when I had the service they were pretty confused until I said it was a lease.
EvilGazebo
12 Jan 171#1839
Wow...Makes me feel better about only having done 11.5k of the 15k allowance over the 18 months!
Bikerdanny
11 Jan 17#1838
The 1.2 engine in the fiesta is a old non turbo lump, it will feel absolutely breathless compared to your GTI and don't be a substantial amount better on fuel and on a long run the Pug will no doubt match its fuel economy ! if you want cheap wheels and fancy a fiesta get one of the ecoboost engines which are turbo'd. if you are set on the 1.2 fiesta, go on a long test drive in a 1.2 fiesta first and you'll see what i'm on about especially at higher speeds/ hilly areas.
magicow
11 Jan 17#1837
Mines going back mid-Feb. My car use has plummeted since having this so it's got just under 3000 miles on the clock. Wish I got to use it more as it's a lovely drive.
I'm looking for advice on the following though please.
I've been looking at going for a simple car and found what looks to be an okay deal on a Ford Fiesta 1.2 Zetec Colour edition. I got quoted £144 per month for 48 months, 8000 miles per year, road tax, 3 services, and MOT included with a £144 initial rental. 144+6912(144x48) = £7056 over the four years.
On the road price seems to be about £14,620 with the spec I get. Had a look and found similar 4 year old Fiesta's with 32000 on the clock seem to go for about £6000, so depreciation seems right. I mean including the tax and servicing this seems OK? I'm happy to have no thrills as I've moving out/house end of Jan and my insurance on the GTI nearly doubles :confused:.
EvilGazebo
11 Jan 172#1836
Deal long gone I'm afraid. Broker got given about 15 stock cars and once it got put on the PistonHeads lease thread they went in less than a day.
Solid White, Pan Roof, 8k 3+23 @ £295 plus £234 admin all inc VAT. £7900 over the term. Pretty happy with that for a £40k list car.
Would have been £35/mth cheaper if I'd got in early enough to get one without a Pan Roof. But I'll cope with it somehow :smiley:
Bikerdanny
11 Jan 17#1835
How much for the e class gazebo ? I'd rather stick with petrol cars
lutherinlondon
11 Jan 17#1834
what sort of deal did you get on that if you don't mind me asking.
My replacement has to be auto, ideally petrol and something a little bit tasteful so the E200 would be an option.
EvilGazebo
11 Jan 17#1833
Had replacement a couple of weeks: Merc E200 AMG Line Coupe. Got a good deal because it is an unpopular small petrol engine in a model that is being replaced in the summer. But suits me - German, auto, Android Auto, assorted bells and whistles as part of base spec. Love it so far.
markvirgo
11 Jan 17#1832
Just received these quotes from NVS
Vehicle: Peugeot 208 GTi Prestige THP 208HP 3 Door
Extras/Options:In Metallic Colour
Profile:14 Month Contract (1+13) or 24 Month Contract (1+23)
Miles per annum :10000
Initial Rental: £244.34 Inc. VAT
Monthly Rental: £244.34 Inc. VAT per month
Admin fee: £239.99 Inc. Vat
Road tax Inc.: Yes throughout contract period
Delivery/Notes:To coincide with the return date of your current lease vehicle / 9.5p per excess mile
Based on Non Maintained Personal Contract Hire
lukefez
11 Jan 171#1831
After my car was collected there was £65 charge for a scuffed wheel in the report. But Peugeot sent me a letter with the damage and excess mileage charges and the they waived the £65 wheel charge so just had to pay the mileage. So might be worth leaving it.
Bertos
11 Jan 17#1830
Mine is going back on the 12th Feb. I've already started getting it back in order. Went to a few places today regarding scuffed wheels. The first place wanted £75 a wheel 'Because they're diamond cut' plus VAT and would take 5-7 days. Ignore this nonsense. They will use the same mobile guys that go around to all the other dealers. They can do it in a couple of hours. I'm going to pay £35 a wheel with them. And this includes 'diamond cut finish' or whatever it is!
markvirgo
11 Jan 17#1829
Look where the spare wheel is as it may be in there
davver99
11 Jan 17#1828
i have the book in mine its blue i think and got it stamped might want to get the invoice sent to you just in case
Bikerdanny
11 Jan 17#1827
You got a invoice ? If not ring the dealer and ask can they forward you one, hopefully that will be good enough :smiley:
zermattbusby
11 Jan 17#1826
Very surprised they didn't include the service book within booklet / wallet...
Best bet would be to contact the dealer and ask for proof of service
Take it you kept the receipt?
jimeruff
11 Jan 17#1825
Did anyone get the book which you get your services stamped into? I had a service in October but wasn't able to get a stamp, because I haven't got the book. How will the lease company know that I've had a main dealer service done? confused!
nrps1
11 Jan 17#1824
Had my new car since November, still waiting on collection next week for Pug. Very annoying £75 more on insurance... My Pug is in pristine condition, 3k on the clock, so assuming they'll be quite pleased with me and give me my 2 months charged fees back whilst I've waited....
davver99
11 Jan 17#1823
have you got a new one on the way ?
EvilGazebo
11 Jan 171#1822
And she's gone....just picked up by Mannheim. Just £65 for a badly scuffed alloy seems more than fair. Good car overall, at least when they finally fixed the irritating rebooting head unit. And ridiculous value for what we paid.
xoddsockthiefx
10 Jan 171#1821
Mine goes back same day. I rang last week. Guy told me to ring back in the afternoon of 12th. Said collection on that date shouldnt be a problem.
xoddsockthiefx
10 Jan 17#1820
davver99
10 Jan 17#1819
Thanks mine is due to end 28th Feb so will wait
Just don't want them to turn around and say can't collect untill after the 28th might be busy as new reg is the next day
Pauladin91
10 Jan 17#1818
7000
zermattbusby
10 Jan 17#1817
My contract ends on the 10th of Feb, so called today and they said it was to early to arrange collection...
Said they'd not received the paperwork yet from Peugeot and to call back Friday
karlie88
10 Jan 17#1816
Mileage?
bootymaster
10 Jan 171#1815
Yeah not bad pal. I'll be paying £500 + 24 x193 for mine come April.
3 services + gap insurance probably amount to £500
Pauladin91
10 Jan 172#1814
Just got this deal for a 208 prestige from arnold clarke. £928 deposit and 48 months @ £210. This includes 4 year warranty, 3 services + first mot. Plus Gap insurance. Think I did alright?
davver99
5 Jan 17#1813
yep got the email good deal
xoddsockthiefx
4 Jan 171#1812
Has any one seen the scirocco r deal atm.
3+23 at 225pm 5000 on nvs and vehicle savers.
nrps1
22 Dec 16#1811
Well I returned my letters etc and two weeks later nothing so called around the houses, earliest they could do was 5 weeks later. It will cost me plenty now grrr. I'd ring asap and get it sorted mate.
davver99
22 Dec 16#1810
i have had my letter about collection it asks to call up when your car is due for collection within 4 weeks is that going to be enough time or is it worth calling mid jan dont want to end up with insuring 2 cars
nrps1
17 Dec 16#1809
Actually 2 months, but apparently will refund me....
davver99
17 Dec 16#1808
did they charge you another month because they cant collect until january
soldierboy001
17 Dec 16#1807
Mum Van Rentals.com. LOL. But good for her.
xoddsockthiefx
17 Dec 16#1806
My mum has offered to lend me hers. But good idea. Thank
soldierboy001
17 Dec 16#1805
Go on line for car rental companies and you can get some good rental deals for the time you are carless. Sign up for regular updates to get the best prices. Just an idea.
xoddsockthiefx
17 Dec 16#1804
Well I have just ordered my next car. Went to local Ford dealer to see if would match a quote. And they did. I'm getting Ford Kuga 1.5T st-line, 6000 miles per annum. 3+23 £235.14 pm. No bad for a £26000 car. Only problem is they are not building the St-line till January. Mid to late March delivery. My Pug goes back 10th February.
nrps1
15 Dec 16#1803
I'm not very happy, filled in document, taken them 2 weeks and no response, they've then taken another months rent out so I chase. They told me I'm to call and arrange a collection. Do that and get told nothing free until 16th Jan. Had to pay 60 quid to insure the car sat on my drive and as they are taking so long I'll have to get another week on top which is 25 more... Grrr
lukefez
15 Dec 16#1802
Well mine was collected on Tuesday. The guy took about 20mins to check it over. Just a scuffed alloy to pay £65. (Was well scuffed).
gary2476
6 Dec 161#1801
Very nice, enjoy!
nrps1
6 Dec 16#1800
Well, the new ST3 with all extras has arrived! Here's the before and after
lukefez
1 Dec 161#1799
Swapped my insurance to my new car. And then put the 208 on temporary cover with the same insurer until it's collected next week. Cost me an extra £23 so not to much of a hit.
EvilGazebo
1 Dec 16#1798
Suspect this might happen to me too. How are you managing this from an insurance/SORN point of view?
lukefez
1 Dec 16#1797
I started the process of returning it at the end of October but I was returning it early.
davver99
1 Dec 16#1796
not sure when to call them need it collecting 1st of march as wont have room for 2 cars in drive
lukefez
1 Dec 16#1795
They give you the earliest date they can collect or you can request a date after that. The earliest date they gave me was 3 weeks away from when they rang me. And my new car arrived Monday so stuck with 2 cars at the moment.
davver99
1 Dec 16#1794
is that a date you requested or do they tell you when they can collect ?
lukefez
1 Dec 16#1793
Mine is being picked up on the 12th.
davver99
1 Dec 16#1792
anyone had car collected yet did it all go ok
bootymaster
1 Dec 16#1791
That's pretty good, thanks. I opted for the two year renewal with delivery on the 31st of March. Mine was due to expire on the 5th of May so given your experience i'm not as fearing of the charges now.
nrps1
30 Nov 16#1790
I have had a quote for £520 to end 4 months early, which is £72 less than the full rental.
EvilGazebo
30 Nov 16#1789
Agreed, and this is obviously more psychologically troubling when it is 2 of the same car! My brain talks itself into losing money so I can get the new car :smiley:
bootymaster
30 Nov 16#1788
Hmmm, i'm just thinking if i have to give the car back early then i'm opening myself up to 2 months of payments + another 3 month initial rental.
EvilGazebo
30 Nov 16#1787
For me? To be honest I haven't asked because I'm assuming I will have to pay til the end. But that's not a big deal as it's only early Feb and I won't get the new car until mid/late Dec
bootymaster
30 Nov 16#1786
What's the hit been like on the early cancellation, if you don't mind me asking? Have you had to pay the remaining months off?
I'm in a little dilemma. I'm happy to renew for a couple of years but my lease is only up in May, whereas the lease company would like to deliver by end of March. They said this: "I’ve just spoken to Peugeot Finance who’ve confirmed that there’s changes coming in 2017. The Loyalty programme will end, they’ve advised that all orders must be in place by 31st December and delivered and registered by 31st March 2017. Any orders outside of this timeframe will not be eligible for the loyalty support.
In addition as there is a price increase effective 1st December, all orders must be with the dealer by no later than 3pm today to ensure price protection.
I’ve asked if Peugeot will offer customers early termination free of charge, however I’ve been advised that as there will be restructures in Peugeot and Citroen Finance they cannot confirm this at this stage."
So i'm wondering what the hit might be if i return the car early.
EvilGazebo
30 Nov 16#1785
Broker got an allocation of 15 or so stock cars. Base spec ones went first so I had to pay £35/mth extra for a panoramic roof. But the Pug has got me used to having one so OK with that :smiley:
Solid White, Pan Roof, 8k 3+23 @ £295 plus £234 admin all inc VAT. £7900 over the term. Pretty happy with that for a £40k list car.
nrps1
30 Nov 161#1784
Only had the reboot a handful of times just as a fix appeared so it went straight in and was sorted thankfully. Not had a single issue with mine, although it has only done 3.2k miles! Still got the nobbly bits on the wheels lol
xoddsockthiefx
30 Nov 16#1783
*merc. Blooming auto correct.
xoddsockthiefx
30 Nov 16#1782
What deal did you get on the merchandise?
EvilGazebo
30 Nov 16#1781
I seem to have accidentally leased an E Class coupe that's in stock so my little Pug will likely be gone before the month is out. I'm sure on one level I will miss it, for those odd occasions of good conditions and an empty twisty road. But for the 99% of my driving stuck in traffic or on motorways I suspect I will be happier in the Merc :smiley:
On the whole it's been a good car, albeit with the rather massive exception of the endless rebooting ICE unit that took them forever to fix. And definitely good value for what we paid. But I'm glad it was a lease rather than a long term purchase - not convinced of the build quality.
nrps1
30 Nov 16#1780
Thats a good deal :smiley:
I'm slightly miffed the Fiesta I got has just had the new range announcement, totally upgrading the slightly iffy interior, but the one good thing is there's no indication of the ST hot hatches, standard models June so assuming maybe 2018? At least I have the best car for a year beforehand!
gary2476
30 Nov 161#1779
I've ordered a Prestige yesterday in metallic red through the Evans Halshaw Peugeot Dealer in Doncaster.
I'll be paying £156.96 initial payment plus £218.99 for 23 months with no admin fee.This includes the £500 discount from Peugeot. The mileage limit is 6000 miles pa with an excess of 7p per mile inc vat.
I couldn't do the 1+22 months to avoid the second service as it is a web deal of some sort that won't let them choose 1+22.
I was told after we had done the deal that it's a good job I came in yesterday as there is a price rise 1st Dec of £400 making it even less appealing.
The new car gets delivered the same day the other one gets picked up in February.
soldierboy001
29 Nov 16#1778
Brexit mate, Brexit.
Bertos
29 Nov 16#1777
I was meaning to email NVS over the next few days see what a renewal deal would look like. There was a note on the their site mentioning existing Peugeot customers could contact for a better deal than was being advertised.
My first impressions are that this offer doesn't exactly seem amazing.... and I'm not on the original £161 a month offer, I'm on the £181 ish a month offer. The new offer seems well Above inflation inc. 20% more for the admin fee, and the mileage has increased from 7.2p per mile to 9.5p
kpj35
29 Nov 16#1776
I got the same email at 12.15 with the following addition -
To secure this rate orders need to be placed by 12pm 30th November as Peugeot have a price increase effective from 1st December 2016.
Hmmm, less than 24hrs to decide & need to know how much difference it would be for only 5k mileage per year.
bootymaster
29 Nov 16#1775
I've had this through today:
Peugeot 208 GTi Prestige THP 208HP 3 Door
Extras/Options: In Metallic Colour
Profile: 2 year contract (3+23)
Miles per annum : 10000
Initial Rental: £596.91 Inc. VAT
Monthly Rental: £198.97 Inc. VAT per month
Admin fee: £239.99 Inc. Vat
Road tax Inc.: Yes throughout contract period
Delivery/Notes: To coincide with the return date of your current lease vehicle / 9.5p per excess mile
nrps1
24 Nov 16#1774
This! When I came to find a car with similar tech I had to fill them with extra's just to compete, and in some instances like the Golf GTI that was £3500 of extras bumping the monthlies up to about £400! I went for the Fiesta ST3 Mountune in the end to beat the performance, beat the smiles, and it got a few upgrades such as keyless, oh and I added a rear parking camera; have to upgrade when getting a new car eh! The downside is there is no touchscreen and the paltry offering Ford have will take a bit of getting used to. That being said though, the Pugs sat nav was rubbish, I always used TomTom on my phone anyway....
Bikerdanny
23 Nov 16#1773
The renewal price you got was still a good price, the pug 208 GTI is a brilliant all around hot hatch crapped full of tech and options you often have to pay for with other brands. Even though the interior on the 208 is ace, I'm hoping for the 209 they will copy the new 3008 interior and I think I'll have to get another on lease :smiley: enjoy your new cars guys!
blackandamber
22 Nov 161#1772
Very true, I certainly cannot afford to buy one new but this allows me to get my hands on one.
I was also told if you drive it, fly it, or sail it, lease it. I know lots of people don't agree but it works for me. If I could only find a good lease deal for a yacht I would be set, ha.
nrps1
22 Nov 161#1771
Well, tbh thats what the leasing is all about right, don't know/care for the hassle of second hand cars get a new one easily :smiley:
I've only ever had second hand, and decided it was time to move from older performance cars with less tech to nice new hot hatches that are above my price range but dirt cheap at 200 a month or so :smiley:
Also, you're supposed to rent what depreciates and buy what appreciates right? Just bought me a house and renting a car, finally the right way around!
blackandamber
22 Nov 16#1770
Unfortunately I don't know enough about cars to really go down the second hand route. Anything goes wrong and I am totally at the mercy of the mechanic! Great if you can though and the RS200 sounds like fun. I played the safe card with the 208 renewal, still quite happy with the price considering the 23+1 deal but I know I could probably have gone cheaper.
nrps1
21 Nov 161#1769
Well sounds great anyway, sadly you can't have everything. Apart from in the st3 I'm getting :wink:
Bikerdanny
21 Nov 16#1768
Definitely a more extreme car than the pug, the type of car to bring out the inner boy racer in you and begs to be pooned around ! The pug does make the better day to day and relaxing car though, going to miss it massively especially on my long regular trips down to cornwall, oh and the MPG of the pug. The RS200 will do early 30's best case senerio ! oh and road tax is £280 !!!
nrps1
21 Nov 16#1767
Ouch!! Hope car is good after all that?
Bikerdanny
21 Nov 16#1766
Yeah soooo the second hand hot hatch route is working well for me................. thought I would have to drop £1k into the cheap Clio rs200 I bought and that would include some new boots all around, ended up spending £1300 on steering, suspension and brakes alone abid performance ones of my choosing to replace the broken/knackered original stuff and another £400 on premium boots all around. Brings the total Clio spend to £5800ish, not bad for a car that now has new brembo brakes and performance pads, new H&R lowering springs all around, new tyres plus all the other work the previous owner did.
Just shows that with second hand cars expect the unexpected and have a wodge of cash spare, hopefully no major work will be needed for the next few years and the price i would pay for a decent lease this time around will pay for it within 2 1/2 years. if only there were more hot hatch lease deals for less than £170pm i would stick with the lease route.
nrps1
19 Nov 16#1765
Exactly, this was a best case deal for now ending shortly so decided to grab it ☺️
davver99
19 Nov 16#1764
yes otherwise you could be paying more when 208 expires come pics when it comes :wink:
i do wish the 1st of march will hurry up
nrps1
19 Nov 16#1763
Actually no, it arrived in Belgium port today, within 3 weeks! Have to pay 520 or a little less to settle early but worth it for the saving I think
davver99
19 Nov 16#1762
when is it getting delivered 1st march ?
nrps1
19 Nov 16#1761
Update, managed to get the only Ford Fiesta ST 3 with all extras in my colour that can arrive in the UK before the 0% finishes in 24th, and got a smashing deal, 2k deposit, 267pcm. Done!
magicow
18 Nov 16#1760
I had the letter and was set to do some research this evening as the letter is worded for someone who works in the courts, I believe. So thanks for posting this, I really appreciate it.
xoddsockthiefx
18 Nov 16#1759
No I haven't had a letter? Mine goes back beginning of February. What are the implications should I write carefully off now?
blackandamber
18 Nov 161#1758
Have any of you had the letter about Gap Insurance 123 going into liquidation? I had mine yesterday and was a little concerned. Thankfully the following has just been been posted on pistonheads.
nrps1
17 Nov 16#1757
Latest, I've been called by another Ford dealer who said he can 'substantially beat the other Ford dealers quote' BUT he will only tell me the price once I visit his showroom with my documents ready for the finance application.... This is 'to prevent me using the figure whilst calling other dealers'.
Oldest trick in the book I'm sure, but still tempted eh...
nrps1
17 Nov 16#1756
No, likely today/tomorrow really. I'm leaning more the side of the pcp route, but could easily go the cheaper route and just save the extra 600 pre, 50pcm post instead with no car to sell!
davver99
17 Nov 16#1755
doesnt help when you dont have long to decide :wink:
nrps1
17 Nov 16#1754
Sure thing, by the way though I can just hand the car back on the pcp as well and move on if I wish, but that would make the least sense as it'd cost more for giving back. Hmmm, decisions decisions!
davver99
17 Nov 16#1753
i would just so you can hand the car back and get another it all comes doen to do you want to own the car at the end of the 3 years if yes then there is your answer
nrps1
17 Nov 16#1752
Oh is it? Had no idea, not intentional!
soldierboy001
17 Nov 16#1751
That's a bit challenging isn't it? perhaps a more polite response would be, can you give me your reasons.
nrps1
17 Nov 16#1750
Right, and how come?
davver99
17 Nov 16#1749
i would go option 1 and keep the go kart until lease ends :smiley:
nrps1
17 Nov 16#1748
Ok, would appreciate some advice please :smiley:
First, I'm tending towards Fiesta ST-3 with all extras, prefer interior of Focus but enjoyed Fiesta plus much cheaper, agree?
Second, I've got two offers:
Contract Hire, can collect from 2 weeks away to 5 months (when current contract is up) in my spec
£1450 deposit, £242 pcm including Mountune power upgrade, free delivery, no admin fee.
2nd option, have to sign within next couple days to get 0% pcp direct with Ford. £2k deposit, £289 pcm (so far best quote) with Mountune, will get in ~2 weeks but then have to pay £520 to end 208 contract early.
Pro's of contract hire, can wash hands at month 36. £600 lesser deposit and £40 less pcm.
Cons - tied in for 36 months regardless and must give back at end
Pros of pcp - can terminate (for a likely fee) after 1.5yrs if needs be. Been told 7.5k end of term payment, but looking at 3yr old ST2's now with similar mileage and less specs than mine would be, they go for ~£14k so potentially could sell at end and get £7k cashback. Possibly can trade with a special 'Ford owners' exchange deal.
Cons - Hassle of selling/owning, need to pay the £520 to end 208 early, so around £2k more spent on gamble of the equity at the end.
What would your votes be?
nrps1
15 Nov 16#1747
0-62mph in 6.7 seconds (1.8 TSI 192PS)
Interesting! I've gone to the Seat website though and needed to add on £1700 of extras to make it a nicer car, the cupra black edition needs nearly £700 for a spoiler and sideskirts! Surely that should be standard on this sort of vehicle?...
karlie88
15 Nov 162#1746
Just going to throw this in the mix. :smiley:
Seat Ibiza Sport Coupe 1.8 TSI Cupra Black Edition
£189 per month on a 3+23.
£174 per month on a 3+35.
8000 miles per annum.
£180 admin fee.
Can reduce the mileage and also save on price as well. Also includes a choice of metallic paint. Jan/Feb delivery.
If anyone's genuinely interested then I think I can get the monthlies a little cheaper via a dealer, you'd also save on the £180 admin fee - PM me if that's the case.
nrps1
15 Nov 16#1745
Another good quote that may interest some from nvs:
Vehicle:
FORD FIESTA 1.6T 182 EcoBoost ST-3 3dr Manual
Extras/Options:
Premium paint – Spirit Blue
ST Style Pack
Rear View Camera
Rear parking sensors
Profile:
3 year contract
(Initial as below 6+35)
Miles per annum :
5000
Initial Rental:
£1307.45 Inc. VAT
Monthly Rental:
£217.91 Inc. VAT per month
Admin fee:
£239.99 Inc. VAT
Road tax Inc.:
Yes throughout contract period
Delivery/Notes:
Factory order TBC / 8.38p Inc.VAT per excess mile
Well, putting it that way makes it sound like a massive waste of money lol! The rs would be super, but I think it may be too much money in the long run, including insurance etc. I'll pop the numbers down and see. Worth noting, rs isn't in the 0% deal.
Edit - £500pcm as its 5.9% apr. Ouchy!
karlie88
13 Nov 16#1741
I don't know all your circumstances, but from what you've said:
- you average about 3k miles pa in a hot hatch, so about 9k miles over 3 years.
- you're happy to spend £358 per month on a Focus ST-3 with a few extras over 3 years (you'll also pay a £2k deposit that you'll get back).
If the above's correct, then I'd be more inclined to go for the Focus RS (especially if you're a cash buyer, although the sums would still work ok for a PCP deal). Lead times are long, but historically the RS will hold its value very well and would work out cheaper.
If you look at the mk2 RS on Auto Trader, 7 year old examples are being sold for £21k+ (with less than 50k miles on the clock). So a mk3 RS with 9k miles on the clock should easily be worth £27k+ in 3 years time.
Your choice of course, just putting my thoughts out there. :smiley:
nrps1
13 Nov 16#1740
Well the deal is just the one on the ford website actually, 0% until Nov 24th.
The focus st3 with basically everything extra works out at 358 per month after 2k deposit for 3yrs. I asked if there was any movement in that figure and he said if you are wanting to buy straight away I can have a chat with my manager to see if that figure can be lowered.
He said it was cash refund as there's nothing to stop me selling privately and getting that extra anyway, but it could also be used towards another new one in 3yrs too.
karlie88
13 Nov 16#1739
So what would be the numbers in terms of your deal for the Ford? £2k deposit followed by 23 monthlies of how many £s?
When you say Ford give you a refund, are you sure that's a cash refund or is the equity used as a deposit for another car with Ford?
nrps1
13 Nov 16#1738
Anyone had experience of cancelling early from vehiclesavers.com ? I've got 5 months left, however seriously considering a Focus ST-3 direct from Ford, they have a 0% finance offer at the moment ending in 11 days. If I were to get that, delivery in about 2 months, I'd have 3 left which I assume I pay upfront with no further penalties to cancel? 208 is in pristine condition with only 3.2k on the clock....
The interesting thing with the Ford deals are that if you are a low mileage user and give the car back lower than the estimate, they actually give you a refund which according to the sales rep would equate to the 2k deposit I'd put down in the first place. That begins to make this a very tempting deal, better than all the hire deals out there we are looking at.
lukefez
12 Nov 161#1737
Only signed and sent the letter back yesterday so hasn't been Collected yet. Will post updates on here.
davver99
12 Nov 16#1736
dis you have any isses with any damage or minor marks or were they ok
lukefez
11 Nov 16#1735
Yes it is I've just done this I had two months left. Got a polo gti coming end of the month stock car so good price. They send you a letter with how much left to pay sign and return it. Then they arrange collection. Then bill you for any damage/excess mileage. Pay this if any to pay then they take what you had left to pay via direct debit. In my case 2 months payments.
CPC85
11 Nov 16#1734
Does anybody know if it's possible to hand the car back early, or to pay the remaining amount off now but keep the car until it goes back?
I'm trying to move and would like to clear this debt so I can get a better mortgage deal
blackandamber
11 Nov 161#1733
Well I have given in and taken their offer, I cannot be without a car and am the type of person that likes to have things sorted for piece of mind. I had a look at other deals but simple could not find anything to match for a similar price.
I went with the 1+23 so its £215.99 deposit and £215.99 per month on a 24 month deal. The car is scheduled to be delivered on the day my current one goes back and will be in metallic rioja red.
It may be that a better deal comes up between now and then but I was keen to get in the queue given the delays with this one so I guess I will have to take it on the chin if there is. That being said happy with the deal I am getting and love the car so overall feel pretty good about it.
nrps1
11 Nov 16#1732
Ah, you have to go to A4 first to filter it... But, automatic? Nah! Thanks though mate, I'll branch out the search to include S1-4 :wink:
Not sure what that mileage was on the Fiesta price you quoted, but it works out just under £10k. The S4 works out at £10k based on 8k pa - you could probably get it a little cheaper if you phone a few dealers.
nrps1
11 Nov 16#1730
I cant find it on sites/parkers compare, where have you spotted a good deal please?
karlie88
11 Nov 16#1729
I'd say the S4 has the same if not more kit as standard. Plus the added bonus of a better quality interior and, perhaps more importantly, 350bhp. :smile:
nrps1
11 Nov 16#1728
But probably not with the extras needed to bring it to the same sort of tech spec (I'm fussy!)
Jan 17 you say? Perhaps I'll calm a little and wait patiently then!
EvilGazebo
11 Nov 161#1727
Or rather Peugeot did - they have delivered subsidised marketing for fast cars that will result in future revenue from us for Audi/BMW/etc :smile:
karlie88
11 Nov 16#1726
You can lease a 335d xdrive or a S4 for those prices.
Next batch of lease deals will be in Jan 17.
nrps1
11 Nov 16#1725
I specced up a couple cars, my swapout is April and I pay £150pcm currently. The Fiesta ST-3 with blue paint and a handful of extras to make it equivalent to our 208, plus the Mountune upgrade to make it faster = £350 deposit and £391pcm :confused:
The BMW M140i with extras to bring it up to tech spec was £1500 deposit and £360pcm :confused: both 24 month rentals.
I'm beginning to think we shot ourselves in the foot a little with getting a high spec high powered low rental period 208 :/ I'll never go back in specs/power as I started with a Nissan 350Z and 'upgraded' to this car as it is...
Also, the arrival times for both of those are March, so it gives me a month to find a better deal. Hope someone spots something soon as those prices are astronomical :'(
EvilGazebo
10 Nov 16#1724
Amen to that. Or the sub £5k/2yr Golf GTi again. Or a stupid M140i deal
blackandamber
10 Nov 16#1723
Think I will take them up on the 215.99 offer, I like the car and trying to find anything close to the original deal we got is impossible it seems. Looking around at other hot hatch deals and I cannot find anything. The thought of putting down over a £1000 deposit does not appeal.
lutherinlondon
9 Nov 16#1722
I'm hoping the Golf R will make a comeback.... That or an S3 would be nice.... :wink:
davver99
9 Nov 16#1721
joggghgghhgggggg onnggfnnnn :stuck_out_tongue:
soldierboy001
9 Nov 16#1720
What is an "aye" and when is febuary? Plees chek befour postin.
davver99
9 Nov 16#1719
should be ok then a deal will pop up
EvilGazebo
9 Nov 16#1718
Yeah I know, but it's a risk I can take as I can live without a car for a bit if needed (2nd commuter car - I can always get the train)
davver99
9 Nov 16#1717
you might want to keep an aye out as depending how popular it is .
as i ordered mid october a bmw m140i and that isnt getting delivered into the uk until febuary for 1st of march delivery . my 208 ends 28 feb 2017
lutherinlondon
9 Nov 16#1716
It's just appeared on the NVS site
EvilGazebo
9 Nov 16#1715
Just had email from them too. 1+23 plus £240 admin fee. Also seems metallic is included in that price
Pretty good @£50/month premium over last time Our original price was crazy anyway. To be honest if I had to pull the trigger now I'd probably go with a Polo GTi for a change (plus 5dr & DSG). But more expensive and base spec isn't as good - no climate, no sunroof etc.
Still can't believe another broker screwed up my cheap Golf GTi - that really would have been perfect. Think I will wait and see if any more killer deals between now and March. Or maybe I'll crack and get this. :smiley:
lutherinlondon
9 Nov 16#1714
Is that to keep your original car?
blackandamber
9 Nov 16#1713
Had a renewal offer from NVS and it comes in at 215.99 deposit and 215.99 per month for 24 months.
I am tempted as I really like the car, what do all think to that?
markvirgo
29 Oct 16#1712
Just had mine serviced at Bristol Street motors, Riverside, Northampton for £115. They did try the online price of £295 but I said I only wanted the level 1 service done. My millage was jut over the 10k which means I'm just on track with the millage quota.
6 months left to go. I had a look at the 308 GT line while I was in Peugeot and it looks nice.
blackandamber
28 Oct 16#1711
Not only did I not get it done, I did not even know about it!
Bikerdanny
28 Oct 16#1710
Nice one :smiley: I wanted to actually do the service myself being an electrical/mech engineer and fixing servicing cars, bikes anything all my life, but i thought the headache they could potentially give me about me doing it myself (even using the genuine oil and filter ) or my second option of using a specialist isn't worth the money saving. on a side note did anyone bother getting the fuel tank valve recall work done ? I tried getting it done at the same time as the service but it had too much fuel in it to do the work.
blackandamber
27 Oct 16#1709
I was a little lucky with mine, Peugeot in Hull closed, the nearest was an hour away in daytime traffic. I rang and they said to use a local garage that specialises in Peugeots, (PugCity). I even got them no make a note on their system and send me a letter to say that was OK. So the first service with oil and filter change cost me £85.00. Not bad at all.
bootymaster
27 Oct 16#1708
Mine was booked in for £176. Did it online, you can choose if you want hte filters etc.. changing. Mines only done 5000 miles so didn't bother with that.
Bikerdanny
27 Oct 16#1707
Rang 3 dealers, all of them saying tier 2 service for its first service which costs £350+ !!!!!! basically had to tell them that the service book itself says air filter, fuel filter and spark plugs are recommended but not required to be changed at the first service. then got 2 of them ( both robins and day ) offering £180 for tier 1 service ( basic oil and filter change ) but evans helshaw did it me for £130 :smiley: and had awesome customer service to boot.
Bikerdanny
27 Oct 16#1706
Ditto, its such a effortless car to go quick in, really refined aswell. Completely different to the RS200 i'm running at the side of it. I prefer the Pug for 99% of the time and don't want to hand it back. Some minor good news is when the brand new 208 ( or 209 ) is released next year hopefully it will get the interior design of the new 3008 which is awesome !
davver99
26 Oct 16#1705
also had basic service cost was £188
magicow
25 Oct 16#1704
For me it was a basic service, I believe they referred to it as a level 1 service at Robin's and Day. When you ring up they give you a ball park price as they just say what the system says - book it up anyway. On the day when you go in, explain you only need a level 1 service and don't need the filters and spark plugs, you'll sign off the work document before they do work anyway, so if you don't reach an agreement you can pull the plug.
kpj35
25 Oct 16#1703
Can someone please tell me which service I should be getting done? I know there were lots of comments on here a while ago & some were being charged for a service they didn't need. Who managed to get the cheapest one in the end & where was that? I'm in Langley, near Heathrow.
blackandamber
24 Oct 161#1702
Snap, 4 months left and really don't want to see it go.
lutherinlondon
22 Oct 161#1701
I think most people are at the stage where they'll be looking to hand it back. Mine is awesome and even though I have just over 4 months left on it, I'm already feeling like I'll miss it.
colganraz
21 Oct 16#1700
How are people finding the performance of their GTI ?
I've done 2300 miles in mine now so had time to put it through its paces.
I'm very surprised at how fast it accelerates for the amount of power it has. Also fuel isn't too bad however only getting around 50mpg driving steady on the motorway, think the book states around 65mpg extra urban, no chance of that. Quite happy with the handling of the car but not overly impressed with the braking.
I plan on uprating the brakes and will also get the vehicle remapped at some point, will be a wolf in sheeps clothing for sure then!
davver99
11 Oct 161#1699
yep then look for a car whenever a deal for one comes about
Bikerdanny
11 Oct 16#1698
Would love a BMW 140i but i can't justify the £300+ payment, my thought process with the RS200 is i will be spending £5k all in and if i sell it on a year or two later ill be getting £4k+. obviously any second had car is a gamble but i'm hoping i've bought a solid one with the work it has had done.
davver99
11 Oct 16#1697
yes i was looking at the golf r but not a fan of the cloth seats
went for the bmw m140i myself
enjoy your rs200
Bikerdanny
11 Oct 16#1696
no lease deals are grabbing my attention, the GOLF GTI deal was good for the car but i find golf's boring and it was still working out at around £5.5k to lease it for 2 years. I was doing some window shopping and i've decided to take the plunge and run a older hot hatch for a few years to see if i can cope lol. I picked up a Blue Clio rs200 on a 59plate for £4250 after negotiations. Car isself is tidy enough and the previous owner dropped £2k into it in august - new engine, clutch, recon gearbox, cambelt kit. so it wants for nothing other than rear brakes and boots all around, possibly a new steering rack as there is a slight clunk from the steering and i've heard these are a weak point.
soldierboy001
10 Oct 16#1695
In line skates.:confused:
davver99
10 Oct 16#1694
so what are people getting to replace the 208
EvilGazebo
7 Oct 16#1693
Despite getting the proposal in on Monday, somehow I seem to have ended up not getting one. Unimpressed. Wait for the next deal I guess. Although I think the GTi would've been perfect for what I need.
xoddsockthiefx
5 Oct 16#1692
My 208 goes back 12th February so late January at earliest would have been perfect. Shame I was at work all day. On the upside I did drive a Porsche 911 carrera s back from Preston.
EvilGazebo
5 Oct 16#1691
Golf GTi deal with usual CVL/NVS brokers - about £200 all in on 2 yr lease 5K, +£10 for DSG which is what I've gone for (and I think I've got one but no signed paperwork yet).
Appears to have been pulled now but briefly came back and may do again. Only problem is they've upped the excess miles charge from 7.2ppm to 10.8ppm after the first wave of orders which makes it less good if you do anything more than lowish miles
xoddsockthiefx
4 Oct 16#1690
Did I just miss something?
karlie88
4 Oct 16#1689
No joke, I was actually going to add 'by the end of the afternoon' but then I didn't want to be known as the 'mystic meg' of the leasing world. :laughing:
EvilGazebo
4 Oct 16#1688
Suspect Karlie is spot on as usual: deal has disappeared from CVL website. Just hope I can get mine through.....
karlie88
4 Oct 161#1687
Bikerdanny, I'd ring another local dealer too. Sometimes, they can do quotes over the phone and email them over (takes 2 minutes). At least you can compare prices - some dealers offer varying amounts of contributions so prices can vary. I have a feeling this deal may not be around for a lot longer. I;d ring no more than 3 local dealers, speak to someone from the fleet dept and take it form there.
Bikerdanny
4 Oct 16#1686
rang my local dealer to see what they can do, going to qoute me today. whats the price now for excess mileage ? it was 7.2p. I need 10k per year, but obviously want the cheapest way of doing that.
EvilGazebo
4 Oct 16#1685
Ah, of course. Should have guessed. Not much in it price wise I guess anyway.
EvilGazebo
4 Oct 161#1684
Yes, I rang to ask re December. To be honest if it does show up in December, I'll just get Peugeot to pick up the 208 early. I'm not realistically going to run both of them.
N.B. Only issue you may have now is VW finance have literally just changed the excess miles charges. I got my applciation in before they did but if you do more than 5K then this deal may not be so good anymore
karlie88
3 Oct 16#1683
Because CVL deals are not permitted on HUKD.
Bikerdanny
3 Oct 16#1682
also interested in the deal, did you ring to ask is december the latest they can deliver ? mine goes back in febuary aswell, its not just the cost of aving 2 car payments but sorting the insurance for that brief period where i own both cars :/ how you sorting the insurance for that few month cross over ?
cheers
EvilGazebo
3 Oct 16#1681
Curious why you posted the marginally more expensive NVS one as a deal instead of CVL?
EvilGazebo
3 Oct 161#1680
Ha. Should've guessed you would beat me to it. If only by 4 minutes and largely because I'm busy trying to get one :smiley:
EvilGazebo
3 Oct 16#1679
So my replacement is hopefully sorted (assuming order goes through), thanks to new Q4 pricing being discussed on Pistonheads. From CVL:
Golf GTi 5Dr DSG - £569.97 upfront and 23 x £189.99 inc VAT
£180 fee
5k
7.2ppm excess
Colour TBC (but I'm not that bothered, metallic would be nice but I wouldn't pay for it.)
Manual also available for a little bit less.Can't push the delivery back beyond December and my Pug goes back in Feb so may have a choice of GTis for a month or so.......:smiley:
karlie88
3 Oct 16#1678
Golf GTI for £199 per month all-in - 5k pa. CVL is the lease company.
davver99
30 Sep 16#1677
well the 208 gti will be hopefully replaced with a bmw m140i in march
blackandamber
27 Sep 16#1676
Thats very interesting, well fingers crossed something comes up. I can go up a bit in terms of monthly payments but anything around the 300 mark would be too much for me for how much use I get. I guess anything around 200 and I would bite.
gary2476
26 Sep 162#1675
I asked Peugeot Contract Hire if the 18 months could be extended and they said no.
I rang the number on the Peugeot £750 letter to see what deals they were offering on renewal. They said I had to speak to a dealer which I did and they said Peugeot change their pricing quaterly and October was the next time so to ring back then.
The dealer did say Peugeot did drop a clanger with the pricing so you won't get anything near as good again.
They also said you don't have to have fixed terms like I thought you did, you can have 23 months or 35, whatever you want so you avoid the annual service cost. This makes it dearer per month but cheaper than a service.
They also said the £750 discount on a 308 or £500 on a 208 is usually on all the time so don't bother about the September deadline on the leaflet.
davver99
26 Sep 16#1674
thanks also had the letter was worries then
karlie88
26 Sep 16#1673
You're just going to have to trust me on this when I say it was a misprice.
Misprices have happened before (this along with the VW Passat Alltrack are notable examples) and they'll happen again. There's no doubt that good offers are put out by manufacturers sometimes too.
With this deal and the VW Passat, both finance companies put an incorrect guaranteed future value on the car (about £2k more for the 208 and £6k more for the Passat) which both resulted in very low monthly rentals.
All reputable brokers had access to these deals hence they were widely publicised.
soldierboy001
26 Sep 16#1672
You will find that some manufacturers at some time will put out good offers on their cars to get them on the road. These prices are not misprices and they get lots of cars out there and do not lose money on them as the broker only gets a small margin on them compared with what a dealer will get, they will then go to auction and only dealers will be allowed to bid in a closed auction.
As an ex car delivery driver I have collected these cars to take to auction in the past.
EvilGazebo
26 Sep 16#1671
Best current equivalent I can find is Polo GTIs for around £200 average over the term but like Karlie says for the Corsa it's also only 5k. Quite tempted anyway but also tempted to step up to M140i or Golf R.....
karlie88
26 Sep 16#1670
It was a misprice on Peugeot Financial Services' system, which all brokers have access to. :wink:
lukefez
26 Sep 16#1669
It wasn't a misprice all brokers had the deal
blackandamber
26 Sep 16#1668
I like the idea of leasing so might have to go for the mundane option. I do not want to pay loads more for a car as it really would be a waste. Hopefully some sort of deal comes up before then.
karlie88
26 Sep 16#1667
I doubt you'll get a similar car at a similar price again - seeing as it was a misprice. Even with the £750 offer, you're highly unlikely to get a small hot hatch for an equivalent £177 per month.
You can get a Corsa VXR for £180 per month on a 1+35 term at the moment, but it doesn't come with half the kit that you guys got and it's only 5k pa.
You can certainly get lots of mundane cars for a similar price though.
blackandamber
26 Sep 16#1666
To be quite honest I would be happy to have another one of these cars. Its been a fun little car to drive and really anything more is overkill for me, are there still any deals for these about?
With my final payment letter I also had a booklet with £750 of initial rental to stay with Peugeot, has anyone rang to see what sort of deal they will offer?
Bikerdanny
25 Sep 16#1665
Agreed that is the best deal ATM and very decent cars as well ! I saw a Leon 290 deal that averaged out at £230pm for 10k via a broker, but I think that deal has finished. Thats a reasonable price seen as it's through a dealer rather than a broker. Even bog standard diesel golfs are going for £200pm average these days.
karlie88
24 Sep 16#1664
Someone's posted this on PH:
I assume that includes metallic paint. You'll be hard pushed to find a better deal IMO. I know there are people on PH who have Golf Rs that are due back next March/April but have still gone for a Cupra deal. They've delayed delivery until Dec and are happy to pay the early termination fee (50% of remaining monthly rentals). So they have to pay £300 for the early termination fee but at the same time, they're avoiding a first service and 2 new tyres.
Not sure what an early cancellation on the 208 would work out at though...
xoddsockthiefx
24 Sep 16#1663
Price has gone up. It was at vehicle savers.
I may just go sensible and get the tiguan that's 131pm with 2400 upfront. That's 231 pm over the term.
xoddsockthiefx
24 Sep 16#1662
That's last payment for 1 more month.
Bikerdanny
23 Sep 16#1661
Exact same, don't want to pay more than 250 pm max. I'm hoping something decent will come up in the next 3 months, I've got a very open mind so not fussy about brand etc as long as it's decent.
TRIXXY DIXXY
23 Sep 16#1660
Just had a letter from Peugeot saying date of final rental is 24/1/17. Is this the date the car gets returned or is it 1 month after this?
EvilGazebo
22 Sep 16#1659
Do tell......
xoddsockthiefx
22 Sep 161#1658
Mine goes back at the beginning of February. I have been looking at the Leon cupra, Golf gti/R/Gtd. Averaged out over the term I don't want to pay over 250 pm.
I just found a deal for a GTD for around 230 pm.
karlie88
22 Sep 161#1657
Yes, I was thinking about the 290 Cupra Black too. £230 per month averaged out for 5k pa or £250 per month for 10k pa. Unfortunately that deal has now ended and no more orders are being accepted as a new facelift Cupra is imminent.
Would the Cupra have been worth the extra £70 per month? Probably. More power/faster, bigger car, bigger alloys, slightly better/more tech inside the car, better exhaust sound, metallic paint included, dynamic chassis control etc.
Pretty sure a good deal will crop up, just a matter of when and keeping an open mind....
Bikerdanny
22 Sep 16#1656
Mine is February as well, if anyone spots a good lucking hot hatch lease deal ping it in here for us others to oggle over
Bikerdanny
22 Sep 16#1655
I'm personally see myself leasing again, there isn't a car out there that I want to keep for say around 4/5 years so PCP and buy at the end won't work for me. In regards to all the older hot hatches etc none stand out apart from the RS200, but then I'm going to miss my tech toys and need £7k+ upfront. I'm personally happy with sticking around the 200bhp mark and the supermini size again, anything from the class above would be above my needs and fuel economy would suffer. Saying all that Leon 290 blacks are working out to be the best bang for the buck ATM - around £230pm mark average for 10k.
EvilGazebo
22 Sep 16#1654
I'm being a bit previous - mine isn't up til beginning of Feb. But others will be sooner.
karlie88
22 Sep 16#1653
When are the majority of these leases ending?
EvilGazebo
22 Sep 16#1652
So as lease expiry approaches, what's everyone thinking about replacement? I might just buy a banger as I'm reverting to a train commute - so hard to justify a new lease as the Pug is only a second car. But after a new car that will be tough :smiley:
Or maybe a Golf R for about the same money. Or keep it cheaper and get a Polo GTi DSG.
What's everyone else thinking?
Bikerdanny
27 Aug 16#1651
Had the car serviced yesterday at evans helshaw doncastor, superb service all the way through. I arrived 30mins late and they didn't bat a eye lid, they dropped me and the GF off into the town centre to do some shopping as the car was being serviced ( 2hrs ) and picked us up from the town centre aswell, car got a valet aswell. All this softened the cost a bit :smiley:
soldierboy001
26 Aug 161#1650
Last week I took my Dacia to the local Renault dealer for it's 4 year service, they said it will be about 1 1/2 hours I said I will go and get Breakfast and they said do I want a courtesy car?
zermattbusby
26 Aug 16#1649
Worst of it is, when you say 'can I wait for it?
'No, it'll take 4 hours' :confused:
Bikerdanny
24 Aug 16#1648
Rang 3 dealers - Sheffield north, Sheffield south and Doncastor all were after £300+ as it says on there system it needs a Tier 2 service every year, basically had to tell them no it doesn't the Tier 2 items are advised but optional during the first year/mileage I was on. Sheffield north and south still wanted £189 for Tier 1, got Doncastor to offer it for £129 which is much more reasonable abid still a rip off for what is basically a oil and filter change I could do myself for a fraction of the cost :/ Shame I need that stamp in the book.
colganraz
24 Aug 161#1647
Plenty of time to enjoy it still then. Good luck :smiley:
markvirgo
23 Aug 16#1646
I have it until April 2017 but plan on trying to extend if possible unless another great deal comes along.
18.5k is a good price and below RRP of over £20k
colganraz
23 Aug 16#1645
When do you return the car ?
I ended up doing mine through PCP at a main dealer , a lot more money than the lease deal posted but I was still happy with the price
I paid 3k down and 196 p/m over 36 with a final payment fee of 8.5k and 10k per annum.
Works out at 18.5k with finance included roughly, a lot of money but a lot of car for the cash, even more so when you consider you would probably pay more for a poverty spec VW golf or something . I plan to own the car after the 3 years
markvirgo
22 Aug 16#1644
There are some great country roads where I live that I have some fun on. I will miss it when it goes back.
colganraz
22 Aug 16#1643
I've driven 60 miles so far and couldn't resist putting my boot down a couple of times
Surprised at how quick the car is actually , so nice to drive too, loving it
xoddsockthiefx
20 Aug 16#1642
Just make sure they put correct oil in 0w30 is the right oil. Some dealers both Peugeot and non Peugeot are using 5w30. I'm at the garage I used atm trying to sort it out as they used the wrong oil.
soma94
20 Aug 16#1641
Service quotes:
Telford £350
Stafford £250
Shrewsbury £150
Surprisingly I've gone with Shrewsbury
markvirgo
19 Aug 16#1640
No need on new cars as new engines and oils mean they are less likely to have an issue.
For peace of mind you could take it easy for the first 1000 miles.
colganraz
19 Aug 16#1639
Pick my car up Monday :smiley:
On topic of service and maintenance, does Peugeot recommend sometype of break in period for new engines ? Like keeping RPM's down for x amount of miles etc
iq938
18 Aug 16#1638
Bletchley, MK quoted me around £214 they can also price match.
I have had my car fixed there before they are good but can get busy.
lutherinlondon
17 Aug 16#1637
any dealer recommendations for somewhere near Bedford or Milton Keynes....
gary2476
17 Aug 16#1636
They are wrong, the plugs need changing at 20000 miles.All it needs is an oil and filter change, safety and environmental check plus topping up of fluids. I've spoken to Peugeot Customer Services on this and they have confirmed this. I had mine serviced yesterday at £135 at my local dealer and noticed they had put the wrong oil in (5w30 instead of 0W30) so it had to go back today to have it changed again!
xoddsockthiefx
17 Aug 16#1635
I rang up PCH. And they told me that as long as they used approved Peugeot parts I could take it anywhere.
The closet main dealer to me was willing to take filters off but said plugs had to be changed even though I have only done 4000 miles. Still wanted 270. Plugs are 96. Anyway paid 130 at a local VW garage who had 3 Peugeot trained mechanics. 130 with a wash and vac.
soldierboy001
17 Aug 16#1634
Well I think it is obvious you take it to a main dealer and get it serviced. Does it also tell you what the penalty is for not going to a main dealer?
jimeruff
17 Aug 16#1633
Also, when I called my Peugeot main dealer, they said that according to the GTI servicing schedule, the plugs need to be changed every year so it is a full service at £300!
jimeruff
17 Aug 16#1632
On the Peugeot Contract Hire website, it says "Ensure that your routine servicing and maintenance is supplied and carried out by a Peugeot Dealer".
Did all of you use a main dealer? I'm wondering what to do...
Mine was £120. And they washed it. Pretty happy with that.....
zermattbusby
16 Aug 16#1630
Mines going in for a service on Monday
£130.00 no plugs / pollen filter
Apparently the oil alone costs ~ £60.00...
iq938
9 Aug 161#1629
Service done today and diagnostics revealed some errors so they did some software updates which they think are related to the engine cut out. They also washed the car.
Basically i was driving as normal and approaching a roundabout then the engine suddenly cut out. I thought it might have stalled. Everything went off all the dial lights icons, screen etc. I had to restart the engine (turn the key).
The next day the same thing happened approaching a roundabout and it cut out again. The dials/dash went red text appeared in red caps saying RESTART MANUALLY. This showed me something was wrong so I am hoping this update will fix the issue.
Bikerdanny
9 Aug 16#1628
When you say cut out do you mean something wrong with the auto start/ stop ? And it failed to restart ? That economy is looking rather low aswell unless you have been punning it everywhere extra urban. Keep us all updated :smiley:
iq938
8 Aug 16#1627
I got my service booked tomorrow £194 in Cardiff as i am here for a few weeks. They are also looking into why my engine cut out twice in 2 days last week.
Peugeot Bletchley quoted me £212.
I switched to the settings display and I noticed my economy is about 25 mpg in town not as good as i thought.
Bikerdanny
8 Aug 161#1626
I'll be asking pug around October time can I keep it and if not I'll be looking to lease another one and gonna have to time it very well so I'm not carless, I've got a motorbike to commute on in worse case but that's my play thing.
markvirgo
8 Aug 16#1625
That's my plan too!
The only thing that worry's me is the timing as if they say no I will need to get another one sorted ASAP.
I need my car to get to work.
Bikerdanny
8 Aug 16#1624
I heard a lot of professional reviews complaining about the steering wheel blocking the speedo by it doesn't effect me ether ! I actually really li the dials, the location of them and the little steering wheel, light years ahead of my mates fiesta st set up.
If you haven't seen the facelift version in person your in for a treat, it looks loads more manly and meaner than the old version, but still has a very bling you but in a classy way grill :smiley: I like the black bits of trim on the interior that replace the red/black stuff in the older version.
I'll be ringing pug up and asking can I extend the lease on mine, if they won't let me I'll see what deal I can find on another 208 GTI or the 308GTI :smiley:
colganraz
7 Aug 16#1623
Nice to hear you're enjoying it and thanks for the reply, I had the 207 gti before and was a cracking car, no doubt the 208 will be much better and refined.
Would have been nice to test drive the facelift model with the thp 208, the one a drove was a 13 reg thp 200 and to be honest it picked up nice with 2 passengers.
I read alot of reviews saying about the wheel blocking the speedo but me and my girlfriend both drove the car and didn't find a problem, even with nearly 1foot size difference between us lol. Really do like the panoramic roof too
Bikerdanny
7 Aug 16#1622
Loving my car still, just a really really nice car to use day to day. It's it a good comfortable and sporty blend, is certainly quick enough but the engine pulls from virtually no revs so it's dead relaxing to drive when your hair isn't on fire. Plenty of compliments on the look and interior of the car, I get a good 33mpg when I drive super urban and 48mpg when I do my long distance 70-80mph runs so it's Eco enough :smiley:
colganraz
7 Aug 16#1621
How's everyone enjoying their GTI's?
Planned leasing one myself but ended up going through a main dealer on PCP as I plan on buying it eventually and they offered a good price before the 66reg cars come out next month. Had a look around the prestige and test drove the regular GTI, impressive car.
Ordered the prestige model in bianca white, looking forward to getting my mitts on it now!
gary2476
23 Jul 161#1620
I rang my local Peugeot dealer and after I told them it had only done 5500 miles, quoted me £368 for the first service!!
This included oil & filter, air filter, pollen filter, spark plugs.... I spoke to Peugeot Head Office who after pinning them down for an answer basically said it needs an oil and filter change, fluids topping up and a safety check at 5500 miles.
Brake fluid needs changing every two years
Air filter every 40000 miles or 4 years
Spark Plugs every 20,000 miles or 4 years
Pollen Filter every 20000 miles or 2 years
First draining of the gearbox 20,000 miles
These are all listed on the Servicing sheet issued by the delivery firm (found mine in the handbook folder afterwards) and are for normal servicing.
Just shows some dealers will rip you off knowing full well you don't need spark plugs etc.
They said you can have the service done by a non dealer but if you do it sounds like they will try and say it is not valid if you don't have the invoice exactly as they want it with part numbers etc.
Bikerdanny
21 Jul 16#1619
Excellent price, I'll speak to both the local pug dealers and see what discount I can negotiate. I got 20% off the fixed price servicing when I had my Toyota by doing the same thing.
blackandamber
21 Jul 16#1618
Just rang PugCity in Hull and they have told me a maximum of £90 for the service. Very happy with that so will book it in there. I rang the local Evan Halshaw but the wanted £184.
lukefez
21 Jul 16#1617
I have just had service done today plus Apple car play update. Booked it online was quoted £251 they called this afternoon to drop car off and take payment. Then charged me £179 result. Was Peugeot Derby.
blackandamber
21 Jul 16#1616
UPDATE, I have spoken to them and they said I can take it anywhere but make sure if any parts are used that they are Peugeot approved.
blackandamber
21 Jul 16#1615
I live in Hull and my warranty is due in 3 weeks. Just enquired on-line to find that local dealership has closed down.
It looks like the closest is Grimsby or Driffield, both are a around an hour away (with toll charges for Grimsby) in daytime traffic.
Do I have to use the official dealers? This seems a little crazy in this scenario.
Bikerdanny
20 Jul 16#1614
I'll be paying £132 myself, not paying for extras ( IMO the spark plugs, air filter and cabin filter defiantly don't need changing after my mileage of 10k and 1year old )
EvilGazebo
20 Jul 16#1613
Looking at their online booking, my dealer wants £132 for the service. But it "suggests" another £45 for pollen filter, £25 for air filter, £83 for spark plugs saying:
"The items listed are part of your vehicle's servicing schedule. Based on your vehicle's age and mileage, we strongly recommend that these are carried out by your Peugeot Dealer. If your Peugeot is still in Warranty, these items are essential. If you are unsure on anything, our Peugeot-trained experts will be happy to talk you through your options."
Now to me, the £132 means they will complete the service schedule stamp which = happy leasing company on return of the car. So not planning to pay for these "extras". Views?
Bertos
20 Jul 16#1612
Been quoted £295 by Robins & Day Newcastle...! The search will continue!
markvirgo
5 Jul 16#1611
It's a great car, Issues have been small and dealt with under warranty so all good.
Thanks :smiley:
Bikerdanny
5 Jul 16#1610
almost certain its just oil and filter for first service, ring another dealer. They may have changed the servicing to the newer engine fitted to ours but I doubt it and needing plugs that regularly doesn't sound right.
copple
5 Jul 16#1609
Anyone had first service yet or been quoted. Just had quote from Trusscotts Exeter at £200. Said needed spark plugs replaced every 12 months. Seems odd for a modern engine???
Bikerdanny
5 Jul 16#1608
Ah man sorry to hear you've had so much beef with your car :/ hopefully no more.
markvirgo
4 Jul 16#1607
Hi All, Success, It was a fault on the BSI again.
All fixed under warranty.
Bikerdanny
18 Jun 161#1606
This is clearly a warranty issue, no way should they charge unless they find a tyre damaged and offer to replace it.
markvirgo
18 Jun 16#1605
It doesn't even reset, I called the dealers and it's £60 to diagnose.
soldierboy001
18 Jun 16#1604
Take no notice of anybody else go to your appointed dealer and let them sort it out, that is what warranties are for.
Bikerdanny
18 Jun 16#1603
So you have gone into the car menu and gone into tyre pressure re- initiasation and confirmed all tyres are now correct ? If you are doing this and it comes back in a few hours or days then you probably have a small leak on one of your other tyres.
markvirgo
18 Jun 16#1602
Tried pumping them all at the same psi and still not resetting. I noticed the valve has been changed by the garage, Possibly for a none sensor type as I can't tell from the outside.
I did try swapping for the spare and the light still won't go out.
Bikerdanny
18 Jun 16#1601
No way I literally had my first ever car puncture last week in my GTI, the tyre pressure warning system went off. You have to get the puncture repaired and inflate all 4 tyres to the correct amount ( if you just focus on the repaired tyre the others will have naturally lost some pressure since you last checked ) after all 4 are the same reinitialise the system on the cars screen.
markvirgo
17 Jun 16#1600
Had a puncture and it looks like the tyre puncture sensor is broken as I can't reset the system. Any one else had this?
Bikerdanny
20 May 16#1599
I would have thought that updating the maps is a dealer only job and for a fee if a new map update is even available unless pug have been very nice and let you have free map updates over wifi ( never bothered connecting my car up to the wifi though )
soldierboy001
19 May 16#1598
Even if you get the latest update it may still not be on the providers maps yet.
hero9989
19 May 16#1597
Has anyone managed to update the maps on their satnav? Got a new Job this week and my sense of direction is awful, having to use my phone to get there as the car takes me through the busiest part of town since it doesn't know about a new by-pass that was built last year
bootymaster
12 May 16#1596
Mine have a tendency to go down.. The label on my door frame doesn't indicate the correct PSI though, unless i'm missing something?
iq938
10 May 16#1595
I filled mine and they were all quite low too. I got no alert so not sure how good this sensor is? On my Merc i used to get alerted straight away.
Bikerdanny
9 May 16#1594
I checked mine he other month and they were all low by quite a few PSI. Don't know if they have to be substantially low or even flat as a pancake before the tyre pressure warning system alerts us. I know you can re- initialise it, but need another read of the manual to work out when / if that's required.
iq938
9 May 16#1593
Thanks. All the cars i have had before always had it on the fuel cap.
EvilGazebo
9 May 16#1592
Tyre pressure label is on the passenger door frame
iq938
9 May 16#1591
The car is great so far and not had any major problems. Done just under 6k miles in around 8 months.
I noticed the front tyre looks low but the tyre pressure monitor has not alerted me on anything?
I looked behind the fuel cap to see what pressure the tyres are supposed to be and its not there?
Anyone know what pressure i need to put in front and back tyres?
tomd2100
23 Mar 16#1590
Im young and it is so much more fun, difference is night and day. I'd find it slow and boring standard, couldn't go back to it :laughing: Considering a proper stage 1 remap costs 300-400 its not overpriced. The car copes fine, not sure where these lack of grip comments are coming from because theres loads of it! Even with the box on max setting i've not managed to wheel spin in dry conditions due to the LSD.
markvirgo
22 Mar 16#1589
I'm not young but enjoy driving so I would get the tdi box but not at that price.
I do wonder haw the car would cope with the extra power as it is a bit light at the front and loses grip quick.
Bikerdanny
22 Mar 16#1588
Oh agree it's already a very very quick car , but I wouldn't mind making it a animal because I'm young and dumb like that. Having even more power would mean that the 1% of my driving that uses all of it will be even funner ha.
EvilGazebo
22 Mar 162#1587
I am quite middle aged and boring which you should bear in mind when you read this....but I find it's more than quick enough as it is in the real world especially given I dont have access to a track :smiley: And at lower speeds, with 2wd only, it struggles to put down the power it has.
soldierboy001
22 Mar 16#1586
Yes Dan, I have a chip on my car and can be reprogrammed for as it states on the TDI web site " suitable cars " and yes I understand you can sell it on.
For the gains I get, which in the power and acceleration department, are very good, I would not have purchased if going to move on in 2/3 years after purchase from new. But I do intend to keep my car for a period am already nearly 4 years.
tomd2100
21 Mar 16#1585
What Dan said ^, plus I have 14 months left. Once the contracts up just take it off and sell it or send it back to reprogram it on the next car.
Bikerdanny
21 Mar 16#1584
Well we have 12months left on our contracts so for £30 pm more we can get a even higher performing car that will no doubt match cars from the class above. I believe these boxes are transferable from car to car just send off to TDI tuning for reprogramming and possibly new plugs.
soldierboy001
21 Mar 16#1583
I'm not sure I get this, You have spent £360 on apiece of kit that you can only use for 18 months and 15,000 miles. The worlds gone made and the poor invalids can't even get a mobility car on the new to be introduced PIP rules. GOD help us all.
I'd recommend it definitely, its basically a removable stage 1 remap. Can feel a huge improvement, only issue is mpg has gone down a bit but thats to be expected :laughing: . I didn't get it dyno'd before so couldn't say unfortunately.
Bikerdanny
21 Mar 16#1579
Nice commenting about the TDI box, I've heard both the tuning boxes work and don't work in equal amounts - might be due to the supplier of them. Nothing beats a good proper ECU retune, but I was after the ease of removal of a tuning box.
what was the car running stock on the dyno ? curious to see how accurate their claim is.
tomd2100
21 Mar 161#1578
I've had mine for 4 months now, done almost 3300 miles and loving it. Its a brilliant car. Recently bought and fitted a tdi tuning box and its transformed the car into a total animal, feels so much quicker than standard. Had it dyno'd on its max setting and it put out 230bhp 370nm torque from the standard 208bhp 300nm torque.
Bikerdanny
17 Mar 16#1577
Amen about the car being from stock otherwise do you risk having 2 cars costing you for a number of months or risk being car less for up to a few months. One thing is for sure it seams most of these lease company's can never achieve their qouted delivery date unless it is in stock. It's not even just the cheap lease company's my friend went through lex auto lease and paid a pretty penny to get a jeep and end up settling for a Nissan SUV from stock after 8 months of waiting/ messing around.
blackandamber
17 Mar 16#1576
Likewise, 6 months, 4000 miles and loving it. Will be a sad day when it returns in less than a year.
The question that's in the back of my mind now is what to go for next? Ideally it has to be one that's in stock as I really cannot afford to have the number of delays like this had at the start.
hero9989
15 Mar 161#1575
Loving the car, gonna have to make some repairs before it goes back though :disappointed:. a van forced me off the side of the road and my wing mirror clipped a tree, cover came off. It went back on fine but it has scratches and dents on it so it's gonna need replacing...
I'm on about 3300 miles at the moment, i'm on a 5k limit though. I'll be cycling through a lot of summer so hopefully should end up about where it should!
Mine's booked in with my local Peugeot on April 4th to sort the fuel tank issue. Not that I foresee rolling the car but hey :neutral_face:.
I have the same concern as you though. In 12 months time, I'm not going to get the same quality of car for anywhere near the same price :disappointed:
Bikerdanny
14 Mar 16#1574
6 months on how we all getting on with our GTI's ? I'm still loving mine, going to be extremely hard to get a equal car anywhere near this cheap when it goes back :/
I find I get 33mpg urban and 40mpg+ on a long run depending how I drive.
Also done 6k in mine, so going to go over 10k but happy to pay the extra for the extra use.
Did we all get the lovely safety recall letter ? Something about it may leak fuel in a crash if the car rolls, just more of a incentive not to roll the car hahaha.
Dan
Bikerdanny
29 Feb 16#1573
I'm very surprised the dealer had the cheek to charge, surely they could see that the security bolts fitted and socket supplied was from the OEM. Sound like he had a bit of a rubbish dealer.
Cheers for the heads up through, will check my locking wheel nuts and socket later.
Bikerdanny
27 Feb 16#1572
Not sinse the update I got at the dealer :smiley: although it seams like when it's very cold out the screen takes a few seconds to boot so pared to instantly when the weather is okay.
lutherinlondon
27 Feb 16#1571
I still get them.... but very rare.
On a separate note, my brother had a massive issue with his locking nut not fitting properly to the key socket, after a small puncture.
After a lot of messing about he had to go to the local Peugeot dealer and have them all cut off at a cost of £100. He's still trying to get Peugeot finance to pay him back for it. I've ordered a set of McGard Ultra Security bolts for my GTI which I'll be replacing the Peugeot set with next week.
Worth checking your own as apparently it's a well known problem.
EvilGazebo
27 Feb 16#1570
Anyone still having head unit reboots? I get them less now but still happens.......
soldierboy001
27 Jan 161#1569
Sorry biker I can't tell you for security reasons that I drive a Dacia Lodgy.
karlie88
27 Jan 161#1568
I have no idea what car you drive, but to get 40k-45k miles from a set of tyres is pretty impressive. What car is it?
I'd expect the 208 GTi to get no more than 20k from the front set and that's if you drive like a saint. Have a bit of fun in it and you'll probably get 12k from them.
Also, it's far more than just driving style having an impact. Drive 20k miles on a motorway/dual carriageway and I'm certain you won't get the same mileage if you drive on countryside A/B roads with long sweeping bends where it's safe to do 50+mph. Also, tyre pressures - must admit I'm not the type of person to check them monthly like you should, probably once every 3-4 months - but they have a huge impact even if they're out by a couple of psi.
Bikerdanny
27 Jan 16#1567
Well to be honest I don't have a TDG ( tread depth gauge ) but I have a steel rule and I'll go measure how much tread I have left with 5k on the clock. My old car ( aygo ) only got 15k from the fronts and that was with premium rubber on it and owning from new, being a powerful front wheel drive car the fronts are always going to take a hammering compared with a bog standard hatch.
soldierboy001
27 Jan 16#1566
Seriously biker I would expect them to do more than that, my fronts, not on this car have done over 30 thousand and look to have about 10 to 15 thousand more on them. Mine are Continental, what are yours? Also depends, as you know, how you drive.
Bikerdanny
26 Jan 16#1565
That's quite a broad spectrum, but very true lol. The rears will more than likely last longer than the lease period, but I think my fronts will be close to being illagal / need replacing before it goes back ( expecting the car to be between 15-20k when it goes back )
soldierboy001
26 Jan 16#1564
Between 10 and 50 thousand.
soma94
26 Jan 16#1563
Any predictions on the front tyre mileage before they need replacing?
markvirgo
1 Dec 15#1562
Yes its running OK now.
You only get one chance to program the BSI to the car so I guess they failed on the first attempt.
Bikerdanny
1 Dec 15#1561
so no doubt all these BSI issues were caused by the battery not being connected properly, surprised the new one fitted didn't work ether ( maybe installed/set up incorrectly by the dealer ? ) so is the car running okay now on its second BSI ?
markvirgo
28 Nov 15#1560
New BSI fitted twice a the first one didn't work and I had no car for 3 days without a replacement.
After calling Peugeot UK with no help at all I had to call Peugeot finance and tell them they can keep the car and send me out cancellation paperwork as I had enough.
In the end I was offered a hire car which they were paying for 73 hours after they had the car but got a call from the dealers a couple of hours before the hire car would be available to say it was ready.
I have never had this with a car brand or dealer before. :disappointed:
Lucky for me I could use one or our work vans or I would have been stuck 25 miles from home.
Bikerdanny
25 Nov 151#1558
Proper crap then, I suppose at least your not waiting weeks for a part but the dealer really should have gave you a demo or a used car to run around in.
markvirgo
25 Nov 15#1557
Had a rubbish day with the dealers. Car needs a new computer unit and it won't be in until tomorrow. The dealer Bristol street motors in Northampton, Peugeot customer services or the Peugeot finance company are no help at all. I have to be without any transport while they fix it as they have said there is no car available. I may get one after they have it for 48 hours.
Bikerdanny
24 Nov 15#1556
Blimey that's mega crap :/ I've been to the dealers once already for loose undercar trim and a software update on the screen. They do say that if a car is going to fails it's going to within the first 6 months of ownership then hopefully plain sailing after that.
markvirgo
24 Nov 15#1555
Well not a great start 700 miles in and the car died on me. No life at all so looked under the bonnet and the battery terminal wasn't locked on. I locked the battery terminal on and now the car will not lock or stay unlocked without the alarm going off. Into the dealers to be told they can't fix it today and have no curtesy cars available. Hope I get it back tomorrow, they suspect a faulty bonnet switch but I'm thinking alarm or ecu is gone.
soldierboy001
21 Nov 15#1554
Looking at that I'm glad it expired.
markvirgo
21 Nov 151#1553
If you had read the thread you would have seen that I already did and have the car :stuck_out_tongue: My 208 GTI
soldierboy001
21 Nov 15#1552
Not your problem, just order. Oh sorry you can't it's expired.
markvirgo
21 Nov 15#1551
How can Peugeot be making any money on this deal, 2nd hand prices are low.
Just to let you all know that a portable hard drive works well. I now have a few thousand song choices :smiley:
kpj35
15 Nov 15#1549
^^^Thanks Mark^^^
markvirgo
15 Nov 15#1548
Thanks. I do have a lot of music as I'm into all sorts. I will have a go with a portable hard drive I have.
The heated seat switches are located on the bottom of the seat between the seat and the door.
They don't have park assist
kpj35
15 Nov 15#1547
Our cars don't have the park assist function, do they? Read it in the handbook, but can't find it. Shame as that would be a very BIG bonus for the MRS :wink: I also thought the car had heated seats, but can't find anything for that either - aswell as the lack of CD. Yep, I'm old skool... I do like the car though & it's a shame I got this for the Mrs & not myself :disappointed:
Bikerdanny
15 Nov 15#1546
Typical iPhone user having no room for music on their phone :b
I don't believe there would be a issue using a external hard drive, but TBH that would be over kill unless you have the world's biggest music collection. ( if you have one to hand, give it a try ) Plus you can get huge capacity USB sticks for next to nothing. Just my 2 cents.
markvirgo
14 Nov 15#1545
Yes I did, thanks for the correction.
soldierboy001
14 Nov 15#1544
I think you drove the car my friend.
markvirgo
14 Nov 15#1543
Is there a size limitation for a portable device, Can I plug in a portable hard drive?
8g on the system won't hold many songs and I don't want to fill my iphone up.
Bikerdanny
14 Nov 151#1542
Nope there is zero CD player - they still exist ? I think at one stage you could buy one as a extra from pug and it fitted under the driver seat.
Myself and us younger lot generally have all our music stored in our phones and Bluetooth it to the car.
markvirgo
14 Nov 15#1541
Drive the car today and went to put in a cd (Yes I no i'm old) and there isn't a cd player?
markvirgo
12 Nov 151#1540
Mine arrived today and its great, Plenty of poke from the 1.6 turbo.
Haven't had much time to play with it but had a great drive home from work.
blackandamber
12 Nov 15#1539
Been wondering the exact same thing myself, I really like the idea of leasing and I was one of the lucky ones who got their car fairly quickly. That being said I am worried about what to do next, do I apply for another and hope it arrives on time? Could not be without a car for months but likewise could do without 2 for months as well.
Bikerdanny
10 Nov 15#1538
I'm humming abit myself about what to do next time, I like the idea of leasing. But can't be doing without a car/ have 2 cars sat on my drive for months. I think I'll try and get a dealer to match the broker price next time as the clear communication from a dealer is something I miss. Do stock cars get good deals like these factory ordered ones ?
karlie88
10 Nov 15#1537
This deal and the previous Golf R deals have certainly made me think about whether I'd lease another factory order car. Anyone remember promised delivery dates of July? lol Can't believe that some people are likely to get their cars in December, possibly January?? It's going to be very difficult to time the next lease to ensure I don't pay for an extra car unnecessarily/not have a car for x months.
Next time, I'll either be ordering a car that's in stock or I'll just buy a banger that has a reasonable length of time left on the MOT for £200-£300 in order to fill the gap. :laughing:
lutherinlondon
10 Nov 15#1536
Just under a month for me
Jeeeman
10 Nov 15#1535
How soon after the car's registration date did everyone get their car delivered?
Bikerdanny
8 Nov 15#1534
Doesn't bother me at all, I suppose it just makes sure you take the key out of the car when filling up.
kpj35
8 Nov 15#1533
I had delivery (Weds just gone), exactly 2 weeks after receiving the finance papers. I also sent them back first thing the following day. Car was supposed to be delivered at my workplace, but at 07.50am, ding-dong, the car's outside the house!!
A lot of hassle, but after 22 weeks of waiting, it's probably worth it. A nice motor indeed but isn't anyone else annoyed that you have to use your key to open the petrol cap & the flap doesn't lock when the car is locked?
markvirgo
6 Nov 15#1532
Should do as mine was 2 weeks after signing and I know some people had theirs a week later.
Be prepared to be asked for proof of first payment to Evans Halshaw before they will give you a delivery date.
Bikerdanny
6 Nov 15#1531
I wasn't around Sheffield arena last night, but I am based in Rotherham and regularly go into Sheffield. I thought they were quite exclusive still despite this mega deal and I didn't see one until 2 week ago, when another guy from work turned up in one in the exact same colour spec haha !
traileruk
6 Nov 15#1530
I've barely seen these 208 GTI's when out and about but I'm pretty sure I spotted one outside Sheffield Arena last night driving home from work. Bikerdanny...was that you?! :O Haha.
organon
6 Nov 15#1529
UPDATE - 05.11.15 - got my paperwork today! Will it be here in time for Christmas???
markvirgo
5 Nov 15#1528
Thanks mate :smiley:
Bikerdanny
5 Nov 151#1527
He's probably just a troll, best ignore him. Great to hear you finally have a date, its been a long time coming !
markvirgo
5 Nov 15#1526
Idiot.
My car is due on the 12th, about time
clarkeyi
4 Nov 15#1525
Peugoet...erm no thanks. Cold
Bikerdanny
4 Nov 15#1524
My screen also seams fine since getting it updated by Pug :smiley: However mine has also been in the garage due to a sh*t shield coming loose under the car - didn't even seam bolted on unless they fell off. My local dealer has been good to me though.
It seams the french build quality issues haven't quite gone just yet, saying that I had a brand new Toyota Aygo in 2013 and it had a intermittent starting issue within the first 2 weeks ( literally would not start for love nor money ), the drivers seat needed replacing due to a annoying loud squeak/it being broken ( I weigh 11 stone as well ha ), the gearbox oil also got changed to a different type due to it refusing to engage 2nd gear when cold - needed a new gearbox really and that was on one of the most reliable cars you can buy !
iq938
4 Nov 15#1523
My car has been in the garage 3 times now. I heard a strange noise while away on holiday. This happens when revving and it is now permanent when driving.
This turned out to be the compressor and now it is being replaced.
Not had great service from Peugeot either.
Other than that the touchscreen seems to be fixed not had the problem since software updated.
Bikerdanny
2 Nov 15#1522
ALA gap insurance is voted the best and the only one recommened by honest john, you want 2 years and £9999 worth of cover ( there is a marginal increase in premium cost over £5k and insurance companies are offer terrible valuations these days ) Some good insurance companies will replace old for new up to the cars first birthday, but this is only if your the owner ( which your not as its a lease car ) this can catch a lot of people out. ALA actually have a lease car qoute, most of all enjoy the car its Brilliant !
kpj35
2 Nov 15#1521
Right, almost there. Delivery expected on Weds. Still gotta sort my insurance out. I'm 43 & my Mrs 40. Only gotta declare last 3yrs of accidents with Aviva, so only got 1 as opposed to 3 in last 5yrs & they're quoting £406! More than other companies!
Can someone also advise me which is the best GAP insurance to take & over what period? I know it was all posted a while ago, but forgotten as I've had to wait for this bleeding car for so long!!!! Cheers.
1julierob
29 Oct 15#1520
Be assured you're not the last. No comms, no paperwork, no car!
steviekia
29 Oct 15#1519
Think im the last.was told my car was on a boat 10 days ago & nothing since,no paperwork,or updates,shocking service.
markvirgo
29 Oct 15#1518
I still haven't got mine, Paperwork sent last week and now waiting.
bootymaster
29 Oct 15#1517
Mines only just got a delivery of next Thursday... crazy, a full 5 months since i paid me admin fee.
Bikerdanny
29 Oct 15#1516
Yep I think you are one of the last to receive your car, and agree NVS can be very rush rush at times in regards to delivery - I suppose it's better than them waiting for delivery slots. Yep Pug is the owner and registered keeper, if you use comparison sites for insurance you can select this option then only insurers who accept that will pop up, Im with LV myself, they are a little more money that some others but have a good customer service record unlike Hastings.
EvilGazebo
29 Oct 15#1515
I had the same problem. Might not help if the quote for you is high but Aviva don't mind if Pug are owner/keeper.
kpj35
29 Oct 15#1514
Am I the last person to get my car?Not much activity on this thread anymore! I was told last week that finance docs were on it's way & car would be delivered tomorrow. Docs sent to me last Weds, sent back 1st class delivery Thurs. Requested acknowledgement from NVS but only heard back from them this Tue telling me delivery would be next Wed 4/11 if I replied by yesterday 3pm!! Shocking!
NVS are now also saying that Pug will be the registered & legal owner of the car, when last week they said, I would be the registered keeper which my insurance company are happy to cover me that way. With what NVS are now saying, the insurance company can't cover me!!! Great, gotta start hunting for other cover now, with 6 mths still left on my existing cover
jimeruff
16 Oct 15#1513
I've just taken delivery after the driver being given the wrong address and no contact phone number. But I have to say despite shocking customer service from NVS, it was worth the wait. It's so fast.
kpj35
16 Oct 15#1512
After chasing NVS & Pug since last Friday, I was told by NVS on Monday that my car would be in the country within 24hrs & then the finance docs would be sent. Had to chase up yesterday & was told by NVS that my car was in Sheerness & 'We are waiting for Peugeot to issue the agreement as the system has been down and now caused a back log of agreements to be generated' Really??? I rang Pug Doncaster who said the docs should be generated this weekend. Let's see!
More worryingly, the lady found it quite amusing to tell me that 'a train in France derailed & the cars on it were damaged, so no one will be getting those!!!' Sorry to break the bad news...
nrps1
16 Oct 15#1511
Well after they forgot to deliver my car, they rescheduled for Monday this week, 5 days later. I told them they had to come after 2pm, they said no problem and they'd call me an hour beforehand so I could leave work. At 20 past 1 he turned up at my house and therefore had to wait 45 mins for me to get back, I never received a warning call. Vehicle was fine, I was promised mats and a full tank of fuel for forgetting to deliver the previous week, got the mats but after he had left I discovered car was on reserve. Also, the SRC button on the display jammed in when I pressed it, and I've had to wait until yesterday with regular chasing to find out what to do next... Cheque in post for missing fuel and I'll have to take to Pug dealer grrr...
tonyleelambert
15 Oct 15#1510
Only asking as the dealer said they would chuck them in for the inconvenience I had... When in fact they're included with the car anyway Lol
markvirgo
14 Oct 15#1509
They said it was due on the 11th but didn't have an exact date
pompey881
13 Oct 152#1508
Mine came today after ordering in June, it's worth the wait! Lovely car and very quick. Mine did indeed some with car mats, half a tank of fuel, also rear parking sensor which I thought it didn't have. Love it! The delays were a pain...
tonyleelambert
13 Oct 152#1507
Did every body get car mats with their car?
Gman01
13 Oct 15#1506
Yeah I do appreciate there might be an influx of new vehicle waiting for shipping space, i'm just mystified as to how a gigantic car company can accept a load of orders and not have anyway to provide real time updates or be able to manage their customers expectations in a realistic way. Don't get me wrong I am really looking forward to taking delivery of the car and maybe that's part of my frustration.
It's my first lease car for a while and it's making me realise again why I vowed never to do it again, sucker for a toy at a cheap price I suppose :stuck_out_tongue:
xoddsockthiefx
13 Oct 15#1505
I believe the delays have come because of the increase in overall new car sales. because eof the amount of vehicles coming over on boats everyday manufacturers of to negotiate space on these freight ships. with very little to go around its easy to see why it's taking so long. there is no way they can say for sure until your car arrives in compound at UK and they see it. it's been like this for all new vehicles. private purchases however are getting priority on some of the cars as you can understand they have actually purchased the vehicle. we are just renting them for 18 months.
hang in there. you will get it and you will enjoy it.
BTW. .. as an example the new range rover evoque came out this month. people had to order it 9 months ago because its very popular. most factory builds take a minimum of 8 weeks. the more popular vehicles can be at least 18-20 weeks wait.
xoddsockthiefx
13 Oct 15#1504
correct. I doubt they will fix it. it will just be noted for when they collect the vehicle.
Rackedon
13 Oct 15#1503
My vehicle was delivered Friday, on the interior there is a rather large scratch/gouge on the handle/arm rest thing in the rear. The guy who delivered it was made aware and took pictures and noted it etc...should I note this in the delivery note?
It asks if upon arrival the car was "clean, unmarked and in good condition" YES/NO.
Should I put NO, and add pictures or something?
Gman01
13 Oct 15#1502
I'm really getting cheesed off with this shambolic company too, ordered around 6th June and originally told mid August for arrival into the UK. This date came and passed so was advised it would then be likely in September which came and passed too. Finally I was told the car would arrive into the country on 4th October but hey guess what....my car wasn't one of the ones they shipped over! Now told they have no idea when it will arrive into the UK.
Never again will I lease a car unless it's in stock as the suppliers are terrible at communicating and setting realistic customer expectation. I appreciate Peugeot might have been flooded with orders and they had an August shut down but the least they could do would be to update customers of this when they find this information out and not wait for us all to contact them and take 3 days to reply to any emails.
Does anyone please have any escalation contacts other than NVS to get more accurate info?
Bikerdanny
12 Oct 15#1501
Did they say delivery was today ?
markvirgo
12 Oct 15#1500
Still no car and it's passed the 11th :disappointed:
soldierboy001
11 Oct 15#1499
That's Evil.
EvilGazebo
10 Oct 15#1498
Free gift. Or someone else's car :smiley:
CPC85
10 Oct 15#1497
I just noticed I have a folding armrest in my car, is this standard spec or have I been given a free gift?? As the armrest is an accessory?
iq938
10 Oct 151#1496
I have had my car checked I had to wait around 3 hours.
The air con had a loose valve so this was fixed and they regassed it.
The Sat Nav/Media Unit has had a software update done. Its been ok for now but time will tell.
bootymaster
9 Oct 15#1495
This is my latest update...
"Hello,
I have just got an update from the dealership and your vehicle is currently awaiting shipment to the UK. Unfortunately it wasn’t one of the ones that arrived last weekend.
Apologies for the delay, they are extremely busy."
Mega crap.
EvilGazebo
9 Oct 15#1494
Nope. And if there is a software update that has a fix targetting this specific issue and my dealer hasn't told me about it (or Peugeot hasn't told them) I am going to be less than happy........
Bikerdanny
9 Oct 15#1493
Personal update about the screen issue - car went into the dealer today, they had it for around 2 hours and managed to replicate the fault. They will be receiving a update to apply to the car early next week and they are going to try it out on another customers car before I bother booking mine in again.
Any feedback from anyone else about the issue ?
CPC85
9 Oct 152#1492
Mines just been delivered!! no locking wheel key that i can see
(edit!! found the key and love the car)
hero9989
9 Oct 15#1491
Mirror screen is useless, it works with very few phones and is limited to only a handful of (very poor) apps.
My touchscreen turned itself off for the first time last week. Was trying to change tracks via on screen controls and it wouldn't respond. After about 30 seconds it just went off. Turned back on about 30 seconds later. Hopefully it was a one off for me...
soldierboy001
9 Oct 15#1490
Answer #3 from a list of 20 excuses as to why they screwed up.
nrps1
9 Oct 15#1489
Good luck, but I'm sure it will arrive, they said to me this has only happened once before! Just my flippin luck!
Rackedon
9 Oct 15#1488
Ah man, mine is supposed to be delivered from VS today. I hope I don't suffer the same fate. I am not even back home till tomorrow due to business so had to have someone else take the day off of their work to wait for my car...it will be pretty embarrassing if it does not arrive.
nrps1
9 Oct 15#1487
I had hoped exactly the same, was up early and everything! Very annoyed, but what can you do, weekend plans ruined now, maybe I'll give my 350Z a blast instead before it arrives Monday.
nrps1
9 Oct 15#1486
Not sure, I'll let you know on Monday, been told it'll be delivered then now...
Rackedon
8 Oct 15#1485
Does mirror screen work at all with the S6 edge? Would be nice if it worked for apps like spotify/google play music
Bikerdanny
8 Oct 15#1484
Mega bummer man :/ I don't believe NVS have missed anyone's delivery date so far. I booked the day off for my car and was lucky in the sense it arrived at 9am in the morning :smiley:
markvirgo
8 Oct 15#1483
Same here too.
jimeruff
8 Oct 15#1482
POW! Delivery date 16/10! hopefully the rest of you will get yours soon.
bootymaster
8 Oct 15#1481
Yes mate, completely the same position - getting really annoyed with it now.
soldierboy001
8 Oct 15#1480
My mistake I meant CITY, thanks for the correction. Note to myself, always check what you wrote before posting.
everex
8 Oct 15#1479
I think in the 'City' field you can enter the postcode.
EvilGazebo
8 Oct 15#1478
Bet you are right.......:disappointed:
soldierboy001
8 Oct 15#1477
On mine, not a Peugeot, you enter the post code in the street name field.
nrps1
8 Oct 15#1476
I had heard you can buy a Peugeot USB with 3G etc that updates maps and provides traffic and the like, anyone heard more about that and the cost?
My main plan is to mirror screen tomtom from my S6 edge though, bet that won't work!
nrps1
8 Oct 15#1475
So I waited in all day yesterday twitching by the window after taking a day off work, and the car never arrived :'(
I had asked VS in the morning that all was still green for launch, and was told probably! Near 5pm I had to email and call various people and was told the car delivery was mistakenly booked for another week due to human error, and they'll let me know today what the new date will be.
Joy upon joys, hope this is worth it!
xoddsockthiefx
7 Oct 15#1474
just report it to experian and they will sort it.
saycey
7 Oct 15#1473
Yea that sounds about right. What I'm thinking is maybe they've opened 2 accounts for 15k for me? I've sent them an email to try and get things cleared up.
Update: Just checked my experian report and that is exactly what they ahve done...
everex
7 Oct 15#1472
You can't put the post code in the road field as the keyboard greys out certain letters as you type. Maybe in the country field?
EvilGazebo
7 Oct 15#1471
Yeah - threw me for a moment. You just put the postcode in the road name (I think it's road name. It's one of the fields anyway). Then it works fine. And then you use it for a few days and then go back to Google Navigation :smile:
blackandamber
7 Oct 15#1470
Just checked with Noddle and they have place £15,548 down on mine as well. Seems about right to me but not sure why the have placed £30k on others.
steevs28
7 Oct 15#1469
I am still yet to receive my car, NVS have stopped answering their telephone and dont reply to emails, I paid on the 8th of June and the very last update I received was about a month ago when I was told the car was due in the UK on the 4th of October. Since then I have called a number of times but getting any info out of these people is proving to be impossible. anybody else in the same position?
everex
7 Oct 15#1468
Finally the lil Beast has arrived! Not sure if this has been mentioned before but can you input post codes in the Sat Nav?? Seems to only accept road names.
xoddsockthiefx
6 Oct 15#1467
they have £15,548 down on my credit file?
Bikerdanny
6 Oct 15#1466
I don't know how lease deals work in regards to your credit score. But when I got my aygo on a PCP deal I'm sure they put the full amount of the car on my credit record not just the amount for the 3 years. You can dispute certain things with the credit report agency can't you ? Might be worth giving PCH a ring and asking why it's 30k and not 20k like the value of the car.
Rackedon
6 Oct 15#1465
Thanks! Yeh, looks pretty great, apparently though there can be a problem with phone sizes so not even sure the Note 3 would fit. But will give it a go with my S6 and see how it goes.
saycey
6 Oct 15#1464
Sooo. Checked my credit file again and PSA have basically dropped a bomb on it...carried out a 4th credit check, opened 2 credit accounts and added 30k worth of debt onto my name...destroyed my credit score...isn't the debt supposed to be around 3k and not 30k? And what's with all the credit checks and 2 accounts...
xoddsockthiefx
6 Oct 151#1463
two holders at the bottom of centre console in front of gearstick. looks like it should fit fine.
also what a great looking product. shame my note 3 isn't native wireless charging.
bootymaster
6 Oct 15#1462
My car was due at the depot on Sunday apparently, I haven't heard anything since :disappointed:
Rackedon
5 Oct 15#1461
Mine is coming this Friday, does the car have cupholders for the driver/passenger in the central area around the handbrake?
Thinking of picking this up, a car charger that sits in the cupholder.
But obviously pointless if there is nowhere to put it
Bikerdanny
5 Oct 15#1460
To be fair to NVS when they confirm a delivery date they have delivered on that date for everyone I believe.
CPC85
5 Oct 15#1459
I got my paperwork last Thursday, returned the same day with a delivery date booked for this Friday
everex
5 Oct 15#1458
Even with a delivery date confirmed did you still have to wait longer?
Bikerdanny
5 Oct 15#1457
I was expecting it to be a week or 2, but for me it was around a month afterwards and for others I believe it was even longer.
Just try not to get your hopes up to much thinking your going to get it soon like I did when I received them.
jimeruff
5 Oct 15#1456
How soon after you guys returned the finance documents, were you told the delivery date?
Bikerdanny
5 Oct 15#1455
I got 48MPG on a 300mile trip to hilly cornwall doing 70-80mph :smiley: for the performance you can't complain at the running costs, I have had it down to 30mpg when hooning it everywhere but my average tank for urban driving is 35mpg.
In regards to your air con issue ( mine is ice cold ) do you have it set on auto and lower the reading on the display to low then turn press the A/C button ? as its climate control after it reaches a set temp it will reduce the amount of cold air being pumped out.
If you could please let me know what they do about the screen issue that would be great - hopefully booking mine in this weekend.
iq938
5 Oct 15#1454
I ordered my car on 2nd June and have had it for exactly 1 month. It's been great and has some really nice features. I recently got 50mpg on a 3 hr motorway drive at speeds of 70-80mph which is great.
I get the screen restart issue about 1 in 5 times i drive the car. I have it booked in Thursday in Bletchey and they are aware of the issue. They also asked me if I had my 1000 mile check and are doing that free which is a very minor service/check. I noticed the Air Con is not cold at all like on my previous cars. Anyone else notice this? I am going to mention this to them.
I now have another problem Peugeot have messed up my direct debit. So they think the direct debit is setup but my payments have not been coming out. I hope this does not affect my credit rating.
markvirgo
5 Oct 15#1453
Contacted NVS today and received this reply
"I haven’t had an update from the dealership as yet but I will chase for an update today, they are extremely busy at the moment I understand it’s frustrating."
At this rate I will be getting a 16 plate!
xoddsockthiefx
4 Oct 15#1452
a credit check doesn't affect your score. that's not how it works. lenders can only see that a check was made. not wether it was turned down. your score is based on how much credit you currently have and how you deal with paying it back. the fact credit has been given may reduce your score a little. it should get better as long as you pay pch on time for the duration of agreement.
saycey
4 Oct 15#1451
Thats what I was thinking since all the contracts were signed ages ago. They did a check the same day I had a letter through with an invoice about payment... It has annoyed me a bit as its had an effect on my credit score :disappointed:
Bikerdanny
4 Oct 15#1450
I've not checked myself, bit wierd about them checking again.
saycey
4 Oct 15#1449
So I just checked my credit report and noticed that PSA finance has carried out another credit check in the last few days. Anyone else had the same or would know why they need to carry out a 2nd check?
Bikerdanny
2 Oct 15#1448
But GAP is only for the difference between what your insurance pays out not the full value of the car, so £10,000 would cover that, or have I missed something?[/quote
Sorry I meant to say that when you input the level of cover required put £9995 rather than £10000 to lower your price bracket and pay £10 less for the policy.
soldierboy001
2 Oct 15#1447
But GAP is only for the difference between what your insurance pays out not the full value of the car, so £10,000 would cover that, or have I missed something?
tonyleelambert
2 Oct 15#1446
Anyone used gapinsurance123? £69 for two years gap insurance?
nrps1
2 Oct 15#1445
Ha, mine is actually £20,065.00, so I don't feel too bad making the mistake really :wink:
Bikerdanny
2 Oct 15#1444
No that's the Peugeot sport edition, look on the Pug website for the exact amount ( I believe it is £19995 or something like that )
nrps1
2 Oct 15#1443
But isn't the car £21999 though? Mine with ALA was £92 with topcashback
bootymaster
1 Oct 15#1442
Still no delivery date for me, mailed NVS a couple of times this week to no response aswell :disappointed:
CPC85
1 Oct 15#1441
Mines also being delivered Friday 9th
Bikerdanny
1 Oct 15#1440
Myself and a few guys have used ALA, it seams like its the best out there with plenty of consumers and profession journalists recommending it. There maybe cheaper policy's, but I personally wouldn't take the risk. ALA cover is £90ish with quidco ( there is also a 10% discount code if you search google for voucher codes ) for 2 years and £10k cover.
Note - put your car value as £19,995 as the policy price raises if you go over £20k.
tonyleelambert
1 Oct 15#1439
Delivery date confirmed for next Friday 9th. Who has everyone used for gap insurance?
nrps1
1 Oct 151#1438
FYI - I took out the insurance policy with DirectLine, called them up to double check when Peugeot Contract Hire is reg keeper and owner, as website says to do so, and the chap on the phone said no bother, all good. £320 with quidco cashback, bargain :smiley: Got ALA 10k 2yrs for £92 with TopCashBack as well.
Bikerdanny
30 Sep 15#1437
Yep any Pug dealer, there is no need to get the lease company involved.
everex
30 Sep 151#1436
Got my date too!
nrps1
30 Sep 151#1435
Got my date, 7th Oct! Woo!
tazza84
29 Sep 15#1434
Just wondering which lease company everyone used? Was thinking of leasing a car but unsure which company is the best.
traileruk
29 Sep 15#1433
Mine is doing this now too. It even crashed turning the headlights from auto to on this morning due to the fog. I've also got an issue in that I opened the bonnet the other day when showing the car to my friend and now whenever the interior alarm kicks in (45 seconds after locking) it instantly goes off. I've had to start locking it using the key to just lock the doors to stop it happening.
Who do we contact about these issues btw? Do I just call any old peugeot dealer?
nrps1
29 Sep 15#1432
Got my docs to sign yesterday, so hopefully should get vehicle within 2 weeks?
nrps1
29 Sep 15#1431
Great, my primary way of using this will be bluetooth to phone, playing music from phone and sat nav... Wonder if I can pair up to my S6 Edge with the screen mirroring for the satnav instead...
saycey
29 Sep 15#1430
Mine started doing the same yesterday. Couldn't play a single song via bluetooth or usb and would crash after about 5 mins with the radio. :/
xoddsockthiefx
28 Sep 15#1429
funny that. mine has been fine for a few weeks. but it happened 4 times on Sunday. changed it to FM radii from DAB and it didn't do it again.
Bikerdanny
28 Sep 15#1428
This is exactly what happenened with mine.
emJayO
28 Sep 151#1427
Mine started suffering from this yesterday. At first, playing songs on Bluetooth worked fine and then yesterday it just stuttered and turned itself off. It then started happening on DAB too! Not impressed.
EvilGazebo
28 Sep 151#1426
The dealer videoed it happening. And then I waited a week. And then I called them and they said "oh yeah it's with Peugeot". Nothing since. And I haven't done anything more as for about 2 weeks it never happened (using DAB, USB, Bluetooth streaming all no problem). But as of this weekend it's back with a vengeance.
jimeruff
28 Sep 15#1425
I ordered on 3rd June - Still waiting.
Bikerdanny
27 Sep 15#1424
Question for everyone with the screen restart issue. What have you all done about it ? What did Pug do for those that took it into the garage ? My screen issue is starting to get more frequent now and if I even try to use my Bluetooth it nearly instantly crashes.
Bikerdanny
27 Sep 15#1423
I know what your feeling as I felt the exact same when waiting for mine, yes the car is very much worth the wait as its brilliant but its horrible not knowing anything and these lease companies repeatedly missing the deadlines.
markvirgo
27 Sep 15#1422
I'm still waiting. Been told will be in the UK from 11th October.
CPC85
27 Sep 15#1421
Can I just ask who else is still waiting for their car from the 2nd June orders?...
I'm getting really **** off with it all now and how nobody knows really whats going on! This will be my 1st and last lease deal, far too much stress!
EvilGazebo
26 Sep 154#1420
A ruthlessly efficient team of Bulgarians :smiley:
Bikerdanny
26 Sep 15#1419
Using a Goodyear interior wipes then a clean microfibre. TBH you can get away with just a microfibre most of the time.
magicow
26 Sep 15#1418
What are you guys using to clean the black gloss trim inside?
lutherinlondon
24 Sep 151#1417
well mine finally arrived yesterday morning....
everex
23 Sep 15#1416
Mine is also in Zeebrugge awaiting boat space : (
Rackedon
19 Sep 15#1415
Ordered on 2nd June, finally got a delivery date for 28th September.
saycey
19 Sep 152#1414
It's a fun little car :smile: I've spent sooo much on petrol since I've had it though :P
Bikerdanny
19 Sep 15#1413
There are some in depth guidelines/regulations somewhere on the web about what is deemed acceptable "wear and tear" and I believe all major lease companys agree to them, I've had a read before and they are fair to us the consumer, hopefully PCH is reasonable in that sense.
danny2156
19 Sep 151#1412
Finally came on Friday, amazing car. My son loves it. Probably the best deal I've had on this site.
the pch website seems to indicate they charge for all damage. even a small scratch!!!!
xoddsockthiefx
19 Sep 15#1410
the peugeot assistance is for the duration of the contract. the Manual refers to ownership from new.
organon
19 Sep 15#1409
Anyone else still waiting? I was told by Jody that Evans Halshaw would deliver the car by 27th September but I've heard nothing despite emailing her twice this week....
Bikerdanny
19 Sep 15#1408
Yes the cars have 1 years free Peugeot assistance, see the warranty and service handbook page 33 for details.
soldierboy001
19 Sep 15#1407
And the outcome is??????????????????????
Bikerdanny
19 Sep 15#1406
Funnily I emailed them about the breakdown cover myself as the contract states it has cover but I couldn't find any details about the level of cover or contact number anywhere in the paperwork / booklet.
blackandamber
18 Sep 152#1405
Funnily enough I email NVS to ask about the breakdown cover and they told me it is in the service book pack that comes with the car. I must admit I have not checked the details of it since then but will try and remember to have a look this evening.
Rackedon
18 Sep 15#1404
Glad to hear!! Is the breakdown cover number etc given to you when the car is delivered?
blackandamber
18 Sep 151#1403
Servicing and repairs are down to us but road tax and breakdown is included.
So far I am loving this car, great fun to drive.
Rackedon
18 Sep 15#1402
I know I should probably know this by now, but just want to double check. Road tax is paid for on the car but I have to pay for servicing and repairs? Also, I assume breakdown cover is not provided and I should take that out myself?
Rackedon
17 Sep 15#1401
Will try at home as it is a PDF and cannot edit those here at work. I just assumed it was already in the system that this would be the account, but I guess that is not the case till I have signed the mandate.
traileruk
17 Sep 15#1400
Just modify the direct debit mandate they send that you have to sign.
Rackedon
17 Sep 15#1399
Finance docs agreement finally came through from VS, but I have gotten a new bank account in the 3 months since orderingn so have to change the direct debit account :disappointed: probably take another month now. Nothing going smoothly at all.
snout79
17 Sep 15#1398
in the Peugeot agreement it states; ''the vehicle must be serviced within 1000 miles or 30 days of the service due date'', which to me says that you must be over 1000 miles late for the yearly service. Couldn't see it needing a service after only doing 1000 miles, plus if your Brothers car was showing a service due notification I would think it would do so on every start.
Of course I could be wrong, but maybe that is where confusion is coming from?
soldierboy001
17 Sep 15#1397
Yes Danny but the only waiting in Zeebrugge is for boat space, Peugeot want them out as quick as possible to get the money. The problem is that at the moment there are more cars than spaces on the boat due to catching up after the holidays and new car influx due to reg plate change.
Bikerdanny
17 Sep 15#1396
Yeah that's what I was saying, the cars wait in Zeebrugge until they are shipped to the UK then onto the PDI centre.
soldierboy001
17 Sep 15#1395
Unless things have changed dramatically, and I can't see that, neither Zeebrugge or Sheerness do not do PDI's.
Peugeot get them to the port on the boat and off the boat at Sheerness and the delivery company has I think 3 days to get them out of the port to the delivery address, i.e. the dealer, leasing company or hire company etc.. This is where the PDI is done, no point doing it in Zeebrugge when it can get damaged or dirty later on route.
Bikerdanny
16 Sep 15#1394
It could be any amount of time really as Pug store them at Zeebrugge until the PDI centre can deal with them.
Saying that after mine arrived in the UK it took less than a week to be PDI'd and delivered to my door, I was lucky in that sense and it seams for everyone else it took around 2 weeks after getting to the UK.
gwernham
16 Sep 15#1393
Just checked my car. It also has a missing security key for the wheel nuts. It never ends with these cars.
gary2476
16 Sep 15#1392
I was told it's a year or 20000 miles..
gwernham
16 Sep 15#1391
Can anyone confirm if the car needs a 1000 mile service? I remember seeing it somewhere and my brother thinks he saw a message come up on the screen saying something about a service.
gwernham
16 Sep 15#1390
Just checked my car. It also has a missing security key for the wheel nuts. It never ends with these cars.
CPC85
16 Sep 15#1389
My car must be with yours, mine was also due to come to the UK this week but have been told its likely to be next week now!
I'm so jealous of you guys who have had your cars a few weeks already when I ordered the same time!
cynikill
16 Sep 15#1388
Arrived today, missing wheel but key. Had to take to Peugeot garage to have them chiseled off and replaced. Not the best start but given the delays already, rejecting delivery wasn't an option. Check valve caps and nut caps too, all were virtually falling off.
tonyleelambert
16 Sep 15#1387
How long did people wait once there car was at the port? Not really sure how long the wait will be now, the car was due to the dealer this week.
tonyleelambert
16 Sep 15#1386
My car is still at the port in Zeebrugge.
davver99
15 Sep 151#1385
Just any paint defects ect check alloys
Bikerdanny
15 Sep 15#1384
Like everyone else ( who went with NVS ) I had to chase my car up numberous times otherwise I don't think they would have got in touch at all with me.
Bikerdanny
15 Sep 15#1383
I've only had the fault on 2 days when i first got the car and then after the 2nd day of it faulting I removed and deleted my Bluetooth connections and since then I've not had it at all even when using the sat nav and DAB.
When the fault did happen it was completely random e.g when just using the radio and nothing else, when it did occur it would restart every 5mins for the remainder of that journey though.
stotj02
15 Sep 15#1382
still had absolutely no communication from Vehicle Savers so far and no delivery date. joke
traileruk
15 Sep 15#1381
Although fair wear and tear rules for car leases seem pretty forgiving so probably worth reading what comes under fair wear and tear and then checking for things outside of that. You'll save both yourself, and the delivery bloke a ton of time.
snout79
15 Sep 15#1380
Good advice guys....many thanks!
hero9989
15 Sep 151#1379
I was told to make sure it's on the delivery note you sign when they hand over the car. also put it on the delivery note you from from the lease company. Even tiny things than you wouldn't usually think anything of. Be unscrupulous. They will be at the end of the contract so make sure everything gets written down before you sign!
snout79
15 Sep 15#1378
Great stuff Karlie, appreciate that. We'll see how patient the delivery guy is before he gets any lift :-) If there is something untoward then is it just marked down on a delivery note or do you have to report this to someone?
Also common courtesy to give the driver a lift to the local train station if it's bit of a trek - if your car gets delivered that way of course.
:wink:
snout79
15 Sep 15#1376
My car is arriving on Thursday, first time leaser so has anyone got any advice for what to look out for etc once car arrives?
saycey
15 Sep 15#1375
I've had my car almost 2 weeks and haven't had a single fault with the system. Maybe I'm just lucky haha.
traileruk
15 Sep 15#1374
So I don't know if they managed to find the fault all you guys were having and fixed it before my delivery, but I've not had a single restart of the system and I've briefly used the actual sat nav guidance and had bluetooth streaming for my journeys too and from work. Was the fault only when running the sat nav guidance or any time randomly? Was it also a full restart of the system with a black screen then everything comes back on? It might be worth harassing the dealers...
soldierboy001
13 Sep 15#1373
Formally the ACPO now the NPCC set these rules, but since August this year I have just googled and the new guides are if you are in Scotland no margin will be allowed but in the rest of GB the first offence will give you the chance to go on a speed awareness course and a warning, 2nd and subsequent a fine and pionts
hero9989
13 Sep 15#1372
It's got nothing to do with inaccuracies in the speedometer and it is the inaccuracy of the speed camera. Car manufacturers are allowed to have the car say you're going up to 10% faster than you are, but not a single mph slower. (to remove the drivers ability to say, "my car said I was going the speed limit!" I know that when my car says it's doing 32mph I'm actually doing 30mph (tested with the speed monitor (not camera) near the school where I live. and with a GPS app). Blaming your car saying you were going slower than you were is not an excuse they will accept anymore)
It is to do with the inaccuracies of the cameras and only applies to the old kind of Speed cameras; the handheld ones and the ones that use the markings on the road. The upgrades the the motorways at the moment are placing the upgraded cameras. Get caught by one of these and they don't have to be lenient at all. They can prosecute if you go 1mph faster than the limit. (though admittedly this is unlikely as they'd have way too much paperwork to sort if they kept to that!).
You can go faster than your car says but not by much. Get a GPS speedometer app on your phone and see what the difference is. For me in the GTi.
If the car says 32, I'm going 30.
If the car says 43, I'm going 40,
If the car says 53 or 54 (it's close by decimals), I'm going 50
(Test for yourself like I said as cars do vary by a tiny amount) - This is the only amount you can speed and be 100% sure you won't get caught as you aren't actually speeding.
traileruk
13 Sep 15#1371
Ahhh thanks for clearing that up. At least I know 79 is my new motorway limit now!
EvilGazebo
13 Sep 151#1370
Agreed: you would be really unlucky at an indicated 77.
soldierboy001
13 Sep 15#1369
It's actually 10% + 2MPH and it's not for the inaccuracy of speed cameras but the inaccuracy of car speedometers and the difference between a new tyre and a worn tyre. My speedometer shows 75 when I am actually doing 70 using a GPS speedometer so well in the safety zone.
traileruk
13 Sep 15#1368
Do they still abide by the 10% rule for speed cameras or has that been dropped as their accuracy has been improved? If they do I'm sure nothing will come from a 77 clock.
Bikerdanny
13 Sep 15#1367
Me and my mate were "cruising" Sheff earlier tonight - around 11pm, didn't see too many coppers but I normally drive like a nun in built up area's so hopefully they will leave me alone. I may of got caught speeding though on my Cornwall trip - 77mph before I spotted the van and slowed down on a 70mph dual carriage way coming down a steep hill ( I love the way these vans are used for "safety" and certainly not for catching out accidental speeding in a completely safe area BTW )
traileruk
12 Sep 151#1366
Been driving it around since Friday. Flies like sh*t off a shovel when I was only ever used to a 1.0 Corsa. Absolutely loving it so far. Seen Police everywhere in Sheffield tonight pulling cars over and even had a copper specifically turn around and follow me for a few miles to try and catch me out speeding :disappointed:. I assume that's just due to the "boy racer" stereotype that hot hatches have and I'll have to get used to being that extra bit careful.
danny2156
11 Sep 15#1365
mine, or should I say, my son's comes next Friday. can't wait to have a drive of it when he let's me.
zermattbusby
11 Sep 151#1364
Congrats!
Don't forget to take the customery pic :smile:
soldierboy001
11 Sep 151#1363
Danny you want to get your spell check sorted, it's definitely.
magicow
11 Sep 15#1362
I found myself saying "I wish I had that.." when reading the manual... the parking assist and hill start assist sound well funky.
Bikerdanny
11 Sep 15#1361
I booked the day off for my car delivery so I had all day to play with it :smiley: the manual is defiantly worth a read some useful not so obvious stuff in there.
traileruk
11 Sep 153#1360
Just had mine delivered to work. Drove it all of 15 meters to a different parking space and grabbed to manual to read in work. Roll on 5:30...
burnz360
10 Sep 15#1359
yeah I tried that and still doesn't do anything. no haven't had that issue the sat nav just froze but it still told me the directions
Bikerdanny
10 Sep 15#1358
[quote=burnz360]took mine into garage to get sat nav and mood lighting looked at. they sorted sat nav but said need to take it apart to look at the roof lighting, has anyone else has this problem?[/quote
When you say satnav issue, do you mean the screen rebooting issue ? And what did they end up doing to it ? And as draft as it sounds have you tried turning the mood lighting off and on and turned the dipped lights to manual mode instead of auto in case that affects it ?
burnz360
10 Sep 15#1357
took mine into garage to get sat nav and mood lighting looked at. they sorted sat nav but said need to take it apart to look at the roof lighting, has anyone else has this problem?
davver99
10 Sep 15#1356
Re sat Nav one thing I have tried is fully removing the Ariel and reattached and since then it hasn't rebooted not sure if it's just fluke but worth ago
iq938
10 Sep 15#1355
I got it through them too, i had to keep emailing and calling otherwise they don't come back to you.
Rackedon
10 Sep 15#1354
It sort of sucks, though I have a car at the moment so it is not so bad. I ordered with Vehicle Savers though. I have stopped following it up at this point, if it comes, it comes.
iq938
10 Sep 15#1353
I thought mine was long. Ordered 2nd June, Delivered 4th September.
Rackedon
10 Sep 15#1352
Ordered 2nd June
Still no delivery date :disappointed:
kpj35
10 Sep 15#1351
14 weeks? More like 10 I think.
14 weeks is how long I've been waiting - & still got another 5 weeks to go!!! :disappointed:
iq938
9 Sep 15#1350
I had the same issue i went with prestige.
danny2156
9 Sep 15#1349
trying to get a quote on admiral and it won't accept the registration. It won't show the full title of the car, options are either 208 prestige or 208 thp. which should I go for??
zermattbusby
9 Sep 15#1348
Ordered 2nd June
Collected 10th August
~ 14 Weeks
taz1984uk
9 Sep 15#1347
From your order to delivery. How long has the wait time been?
traileruk
9 Sep 153#1346
So apparently my car has just been delayed (it was due for delivery tomorrow) and during prep they've discovered a fault with the touch screen/sat nav which they are replacing which has delayed my delivery until next Wednesday. If this is the issue you're all talking about, I don't really mind and Peugeot said they'll throw in a tank of petrol so meh.
iq938
9 Sep 151#1345
I got the screen restart issue yesterday it happened 3 or 4 times while i was on the sat nav map screen.
I connected my phone to the car recently via bluetooth so I don't know if that's the cause. I didn't get the issue before that. I have reported to Peugeot via the contact form.
EvilGazebo
9 Sep 151#1344
Deleted all the Bluetooth profiles and it's still happening. So whatever the reason is for you not getting it anymore, I don't think it's that..........
EvilGazebo
9 Sep 15#1343
£211 - £73.50 cashback = £137.50. One of the benefits of getting old :smile:
taz1984uk
9 Sep 15#1342
Was thinking of getting one of these on lease. What's the average wait time?
saycey
9 Sep 15#1341
Cost me 766 and im 22 with 1 NCB.
traileruk
9 Sep 15#1340
What cost of insurance did people end up getting for this?
I'm 26, 6 years NCB and was quoted by Admiral for multicar on this and a 1.0 Corsa (53 Reg) with my partner who's 24 0 years NCB and it's looking at ~£700. The Corsa made up £200 of that, so £500 for the 208.
aliturner1303
9 Sep 151#1339
It has arrived! Got it up to a whopping 5mph in the work car park. Hurry up 5pm
Mr Bananas
9 Sep 15#1338
Scrub that last comment - the reboot is back with a vengance !!!
hero9989
8 Sep 15#1337
Only issue I've had with it is the satnav. Which is pretty dreadful. It's way out of date (found 2 missing roundabouts) and I've been told to go down 1 way roads - the wrong way - multiple times.
Also - the speed limit that shows up in the top left. It's there on very few roads (M roads and some A roads only it seems). As well as that, some of these are also out of date. Badly in need of an update.
(still love the car though...)
Mr Bananas
8 Sep 151#1336
Guys - I was able to clear the rebooting by performing a factory reset and removing the sub drive from the slot , but after playing with the system when reloading the files onto the Jukebox , the only conclusion I can arrive at is that the system is " not fit for purpose" and has been rushed to production without a full functional test. Sluggish and bug ridden , unintuitive screens - it's something you would buy on eBay from China and self install in a ford Orion 1.6i Ghia - Peugeot will wait 18 month collecting data files from customers ( I.e. us lot ) then bring out a patch to address the known fault
Bikerdanny
8 Sep 154#1335
Right could we all spare 5mins and fill out the below link about our screen restart problems, the more of us that report it direct to Peugeot will hopefultl show them how common this fault is and come up with a proper fix if they aren't already doing so.....
Sorry to hear that, I'm currently down at a little Cornwish fishing town at the moment and needless to say it isn't the most car friendly place at all so I may be joining you soon !
I can't recommend any company's myself, but i will say that the car comes with a full sized alloy spare wheel ! So you can swap it over now and simply drop the damaged one off and not be carless.
EvilGazebo
8 Sep 151#1333
Interesting. I'll give that a shot (in the interests of problem isolation only - I'm not spending 18 months without handsfree or Spotify!).Thanks.
Mr Bananas
8 Sep 15#1332
yep - the Radio reeboot has start today and with vigour - 8 times during one song !!!! ...... glad a did'nt buy one !!!!
SergioGeorgini
8 Sep 15#1331
Annoyingly I've just kerbed one of my alloys on the GTi! Can anyone recommend any decent alloy refurbishment company's that work with diamond cut ones?
Bikerdanny
8 Sep 15#1330
Things I've noted and done about my screen fault.
First 3 days I had no trouble at all despite using all functions - satnav, Bluetooth, DAB.
On 4th and 5th day it constantly restarted.
Since then I removed my Bluetooth connections and deleted them off the car menu and it seams to have worked for now - I've used satnav and DAB and done a few hundred miles since then inc lots of short little trips aswell as some big miles.
Bikerdanny
8 Sep 15#1329
It may settle back down after the first few months, I did nearly 400miles in the first weekend just driving it around and upto nearly 800miles after 11 days of ownership with traveling down to Cornwall with it. I'll personally see how my mileage looks after 6months of owning it before consider ringing them.
danny2156
8 Sep 151#1328
confirmation email for delivery next week. get in! !!!!
magicow
8 Sep 15#1327
Am I right in thinking that it only happens when the dash is using a DAB source? Have you got any tips other than to suck it up?
EvilGazebo
8 Sep 15#1326
Believe me it gets really old really quick.
Having irritatingly refused to display the symptoms when booked in to the dealer, it obviously started doing it again constantly yesterday morning. Drove straight there, left the engine running and got them to come with me for a drive whilst they videoed it.
Thought it might take a few minutes but it rebooted before we even left the forecourt :smile:
Still waiting for the call re next steps. But given the number of posters on here with rhe problem this is obviously a systemic design and/or build fault rather than isolated duff units. Peugeot need to sort it out and start communicating.
Rackedon
8 Sep 15#1325
I will just put 10000 on the insurance, hopefully if I have to claim it won't be a bother, and also won't be after the 10000. Thanks for your help guys :smiley:
magicow
8 Sep 151#1324
Got the car yesterday, dash has restarted twice :laughing: I don't even care at the moment, it sounds so nice to drive I leave the radio off, will get old though when I have a passenger for a long journey!
aliturner1303
8 Sep 151#1323
True, good point. I would argue the fact that I took out a lease with 10,000 mileage allowance is enough for me to put 10,000 per year as my expected mileage for insurance purposes. Not sure how that would stand up though.
hero9989
8 Sep 151#1322
Unless you have to claim and they read the clock... That said they don't usually care about a couple of thousand miles. There's no way you can predict your mileage perfectly. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
aliturner1303
8 Sep 151#1321
The 15,000 miles is over 18 months, which pro rata's at 10,000 miles per year.
However, the insurance company will never know!
Rackedon
8 Sep 15#1320
Question about the insurance, as I am a young driver the price is rather high. Of course this is highly dependant on mileage, as I drive quite far for work I took the 15000 mile lease deal, though I only expect to cover about 12000...how strict are insurance with mileage? If I set the insurance for 10000 miles it is quite a bit cheaper than 15000.
soldierboy001
7 Sep 15#1319
Not if you've followed this deal from the off.
kpj35
7 Sep 15#1318
Oh great!!! Chased NVS on Friday & got an update today. My original date was sometime in Aug (around the middle I think), which slipped to 4/10 & now they've said 11/10! Unbelievable Jeff....
traileruk
7 Sep 151#1317
It's low excess millage though isnt it? Even though my contract mentions about extra charges for going >30% more than my allowance.
I cant see myself doing 19500 miles in 18 months though tbf so I'll just pay the extra millage if I go over.
hero9989
7 Sep 15#1316
I've already used 10% of my yearly mileage allowance in 4% of the year...Not good... Might have to give them a ring and see about upping it a bit... That or stop being lazy and get the bike back out until winter!
traileruk
7 Sep 152#1315
Delivery confirmed for Thursday for me.
tonyleelambert
6 Sep 15#1314
My car is due in w/c 13/09. Not got much hope for getting it anytime soon though, they said delivery will be a week after roughly - dependant on availability of a driver.
soldierboy001
6 Sep 15#1313
Don't make me laugh, looking in the manual is the last thing an HUKD poster would do. That's for sissies.
Bikerdanny
6 Sep 15#1312
Go Into your cars settings and select mood lighting on, its pretty easy to find it in the menu ulike certain other features ha. If still struggling look in the manual.
Bikerdanny
6 Sep 151#1311
Pretty certain the GTI doesnt came with a camera, Pug's brochure did make it sound like it has one though.
deanyboy
5 Sep 15#1310
I was talking about the first direct debit payment not the initial payment when you receive the documents.
iq938
5 Sep 15#1309
Does anyone know how to activate reverse camera as i only get sensors when reversing?
tonyleelambert
5 Sep 15#1308
Thank you!
burnz360
5 Sep 15#1307
how do you turn it on? lol
dazco
5 Sep 15#1306
To be fair, we all bank transferred the first payment before we took delivery didn't we?
Bikerdanny
5 Sep 15#1305
Yes it has some awesome blue ambient lighting in the roof, looks super swanky/posh and the ladies love it :smiley:
burnz360
5 Sep 15#1304
does anyone know of this car has the mood lighting in the roof?
deanyboy
5 Sep 15#1303
A month after you take delivery, you will get a letter from Peugeot to confirm the date about two weeks before it's due.
tonyleelambert
5 Sep 15#1302
When does the first payment come out?
dazco
5 Sep 15#1301
I live in a place that they will not deliver to
xoddsockthiefx
5 Sep 15#1300
the front particularly with all that heavy breaking. :confused:
davver99
5 Sep 15#1299
Mine Had its first wash today
alloys collect dirt easy :smiley:
xoddsockthiefx
5 Sep 15#1298
we all got ours delivered. probably just need to take your driving licence. if you haven't signed finance docs you need bank statement etc.
best just to ring the dealer. I'm sure they will tell you.
dazco
4 Sep 15#1297
I have to go and collect mine on Monday, can you tell me what documents you had to show to get the car. Insurance? License? Passport?
dazco
4 Sep 15#1296
Nothing ironic about it, do you know the meaning of any words at all?
davver99
4 Sep 15#1295
That's the opinion of peugeot
saycey
4 Sep 15#1294
Haha that would make me cry :L but car is fine :smile: I'm in love with it <3
microfrost
4 Sep 15#1293
Not massively but it has a little bit.
Bertos
4 Sep 15#1292
Well that's your opinion.
Diagnostics check was ran on it. They said I had a faulty touchscreen. New touchscreen unit ordered to be here on Monday. Once it's arrived we'll arrange a time to take it in again to replaced. It can be done while I wait, should take less than an hour they said.
magicow
4 Sep 15#1291
I'm 25 with 1 no years claims bonus and 8 months into my current policy that would net me my second years no claims with Admiral. I was paying roughly £40 per month on my 107 (1litre), switching to this car with Peugeot as the registered keeper and owner would increase my premium to £106 per month!!
Fortunately, with some talking and number crunching I was able to agree to pay the remainder of the contract off at £296 as one lump sum.. that working to £74 per month is a bit more easier to digest and aligned with what I was being quoted when I signed for the lease.
I'm just glad I didn't have to leave them as I really need those NCB years now, was always a named driver previously.
nrps1
4 Sep 15#1290
That had better be a joke!
soldierboy001
4 Sep 15#1289
Stop press, he's just crashed into the back of a bus
saycey
4 Sep 15#1288
My driver is 15 mins away! Can't wait :smile:
iq938
4 Sep 152#1287
My car finally got delivered this morning. Ordered 2nd June.
Its very nice i like the power fold mirrors, blue lights in the roof lining and the sports steering wheel is nice and light.
Got a great deal on Aviva insurance online through topcashback as some people are having issues with LV. It worked out cheaper than LV quote.
soldierboy001
4 Sep 152#1286
Oh the irony of your post.
Bikerdanny
4 Sep 15#1285
No I've not checked mine, has that large amount on your credit file effected your score ?
dazco
4 Sep 15#1284
a rod, wire, or other structure by which signals are transmitted or received as part of a radio or television transmission or receiving system.
I am really surprised you did not know that, most intelligent people do. He did do a tiny typo, but not so much that a person of even below average intelligence would have instantly comprehended fully to what he was referring.
soldierboy001
4 Sep 15#1283
What's an Ariel?
microfrost
4 Sep 15#1282
Has anyone checked there credit file?Noodle is showing my lease as an 'operating lease' for just under £16000. I've had leases before but they've only been recorded as the amount due to be paid. This seems to have been recorded as the car value. I'm wondering what impact it will have on my credit.
EvilGazebo
4 Sep 15#1281
My dealer told me there is nothing on their Peugeot system indicating a known fault or even an issue being investigated. Issue didnt occur for them and nothing flagged on diagnostics so they did a factory reset and sent me on my way - not a lot else they could do to be fair. If (when) it reoccurs I'm going to drive round there, leave the engine running and get someone to go on a drive with me.......
davver99
4 Sep 15#1280
I think your wasting your time I was told it's a known fault and they are working on a fix or new unit I will get a letter when the recall will take place
One thing that might help is remove Ariel not tried this yet
saycey
3 Sep 15#1279
Just insured the car and it's cheaper than I thought it would be. Cost me 766 and im 22 with 1 NCB. My 1.6 astra with 105hp cost me 587 so not bad if u ask me :smiley:
burnz360
3 Sep 15#1278
can I just confirm gap insurance is for finance and contract hire. thanks
aliturner1303
3 Sep 151#1277
A delivery date at last, hurry up Wednesday 9th!
EvilGazebo
3 Sep 15#1276
With the SMEG unit having been playing up virtually constantly since I got it, I dropped my car off at the dealer this morning to be looked at. Guess how many times it rebooted on the hour drive there? Answer, of course, is zero. Gaaaaaaaaah..........
Bertos
3 Sep 15#1275
Booked into the servicing dept tomorrow for the touchscreen issues. Not hopeful they will be able to do anything other than hook it up to their computers and maybe reinstall the same software. I'll let you all know what they say.
davver99
3 Sep 151#1274
great car let down by a poor nav unit
masterbruce
3 Sep 15#1273
French electrics haha good luck
saycey
2 Sep 15#1272
At least I know what to expect from it now :stuck_out_tongue:
xoddsockthiefx
2 Sep 15#1271
my eco started today for 1st time too. lol
EvilGazebo
2 Sep 151#1270
Thanks. I was being really thick. Our other car is an auto so of course it just switches off when you stop. I was always clutch on and gear engaged so no surprise it didn't work.......
davver99
2 Sep 15#1269
Just pray that your sat Nav and radio are fault free
Bikerdanny
2 Sep 15#1268
TBH I didn't get a expected delivery date, just a phone call the night before saying I can have it the next day !
saycey
2 Sep 152#1267
Mine is due to be delivered on Friday :smile:
IncensedCape
2 Sep 151#1266
Finally got a delivery date of the 7th =) Really looking forward to it based on the pictures in here.
Rackedon
2 Sep 15#1265
Told mine would be delivered late august, then yesterday was told it would be in the next week if all goes well. As far as I can tell I should expect it in 2017. Received no documentation since the original order form on 2nd June.
CPC85
2 Sep 15#1264
I'm told mine is still due to the UK W/C 14th Sept, but other than the order form i sign on the 2nd June i have not had any other paperwork yet!
magicow
2 Sep 15#1263
I haven't got a delivery date yet. Mind you, I only signed and sent back the agreement last week, based on the ETA of everything else I'm still in the early days of this stage!
jimeruff
2 Sep 15#1262
Still waiting for an ETA on mine. Mine was supposed to be with me early August.
lutherinlondon
2 Sep 15#1261
Anyone received their car this week....? Anyone still NOT got an estimated delivery date (other than me)?
blackandamber
2 Sep 15#1260
They actually did say further down the email they will take either.
soldierboy001
2 Sep 15#1259
As the paper counterpart is no longer in force won't you need to send the authorisation code from DVLA?
blackandamber
2 Sep 15#1258
Exactly 1 week since insuring with them I had this email:
Thank you for insuring your car with us.
So we can check the details we have for you are correct please could you send us copies of:
V5 registration document (including the inside pages)
driving licence – paper counterpart and both sides of your photo card
All named driver’s driving licence - paper counterpart and both sides of their photo card photo card (front and back)
Proof of no claim discount (NCD) from your previous insurer. If you don’t have any NCD there’s no need to send this, however we’ll still need to see the rest of the documents.
I will send everything off tomorrow minus the V5 and see what happens.
Bikerdanny
2 Sep 15#1257
Oh man don't say that, I'm with LV and it all went through okay. I don't want them requesting all that crap about the V5C, did they say why they need proof ? Do they not believe that PCH are the keeper and owner ? Keep me updated please so I can prep for this crap.
Bikerdanny
2 Sep 15#1256
Yeah it is noticeable when it cuts out, the revs drop to 0 and a little green eco light comes on - you need to have stopped with it in neutral and the clutch released, in the handbook it states that sometimes it will leave the engine running due to certain conditions needed by the car etc.
blackandamber
2 Sep 15#1255
Anyone had this issue? LV have just asked to see a copy of the V5 registration document despite me having Peugeot down as the Owner and Registered keeper on the insurance policy. Am I even able to get a copy of this?
EvilGazebo
2 Sep 15#1254
I swear my car reads this thread....eco cut in for the first time this morning...
danny2156
2 Sep 15#1253
EvilGazebo
2 Sep 15#1252
Not sure my start/stop is working: trip display only ever shows 0min 0sec of "eco". Is it very noticeable when it cuts out? It's very noticeable in our diesel SUV but this thing is much quieter at idle
Bikerdanny
2 Sep 15#1251
They are on when the headlights are on and the car is below a certain speed I've read, TBH with my using my car primarly in a urban area I've not noticed them apart from the time I was parked up with some steering lock on and was showing my mates the car in the dark.
davver99
1 Sep 15#1250
do you have to activate the corner assist fog lamps ? or will they come on when its in automatic wiper mode ?
soldierboy001
1 Sep 151#1249
Thanks for your reply Danny.
Bikerdanny
1 Sep 15#1248
I ment defiantly ha, I'm using the Banana Ifone 6s BTW :b that and I often type at 1 millions words per minute so I'm at the mercy of autocorrect nearly all of the time.
davver99
1 Sep 15#1247
ok so this is what my local dealer said westover poole
it is a known fault on the new model 208 and peugeot are working on either new software or a new head unit
all cars with this issue will get a letter from where i got the car from and then arrange to get it sorted when they have a fix
the only thing is there is no time frame for it
also another thing that might help it stop rebooting is to remove the ariel ? but will make reception weak
EvilGazebo
1 Sep 15#1246
No, dropping it off for the day. No courtesy car but I can survive on trains so no issue.
soldierboy001
1 Sep 15#1245
Danny did you mean definitely seems or defiantly seams, maybe in this case the later is more appropriate LOL.
Is it your auto correct and if so what are you using Apple? or Orange?
Bikerdanny
1 Sep 15#1244
You waiting why they look at it ? Or got a courtesy car ? With the amount of users on here who have had the issue it defiantly seams software related rather than hardware. Keep us all updated everyone ! Cheers.
EvilGazebo
1 Sep 151#1243
It's Tuesday :smile: But you are right......
EvilGazebo
1 Sep 151#1242
Mine's booked in to be looked at. Not optimistic they will fix it based on Google research......
Bikerdanny
1 Sep 151#1241
Please keep us all updated Davvy, I have a 6 hour drive to Cornwall soon and the screen rebooting every 5 mins is going to get old real fast.
Bikerdanny
1 Sep 15#1240
Well it is monday, can you be arsed working properly on a monday..... I didn't think so :b
davver99
1 Sep 15#1239
i have called local dealer waiting for a call back
EvilGazebo
1 Sep 151#1238
8 reboots on 45 minute drive to work. Not Sunday either.....
nrps1
1 Sep 15#1237
Hmmm, this seems to imply not unless I'm misreading it?
The vehicle is owned and registered by you, your spouse, partner or civil partner (not business partner), by your parent, employer or a lease company. Your documents will state that the policyholder is the legal owner and registered keeper of the vehicle. The vehicle must be kept at your address.
That being said, was rather surprised at getting a quote for £330 with protected NCB and a reasonable excess, so might do the switch when the time comes from Admiral if they can cover...
xoddsockthiefx
1 Sep 152#1236
it was me! my religious ex says it's a sign from God. what it means I don't know.
Bikerdanny
31 Aug 15#1235
I'm sure there was someone that said it happened alot on Sunday - may have been you ? And funnily enough despite mine being good as gold on Friday and Saturday despite travelling everywhere as soon as Sunday came it messed up repeatedly every 5-10mins.
xoddsockthiefx
31 Aug 15#1234
hmm. maybe I was lucky. funnily it has happened consistently on Sundays no matter what I was listening too.
davver99
31 Aug 15#1233
I tried fm and still rebooted
xoddsockthiefx
31 Aug 15#1232
I had it on DAB today and it rebooted twice. put it on FM and it didn't reboot. it seems it my be a DAB issue.
xoddsockthiefx
31 Aug 15#1231
how are you downloading it into 'harddrive'?
EvilGazebo
31 Aug 15#1230
I might try that too
a) to aid diagnosis of the issue and
b) to stop me going completely mental :smile:
EvilGazebo
31 Aug 15#1229
It can do all that. When its not bloody rebooting.
Rackedon
31 Aug 15#1228
How is the unit when playing bluetooth from phone? Is there song information and play/pause/skip available?
Mr Bananas
31 Aug 15#1227
Not had any issues yet. I am just listening to music downloaded onto hard drive. Not using DAB radio.
EvilGazebo
31 Aug 15#1226
Is anyone with a new car NOT getting the reboot issue?
markvirgo
30 Aug 151#1225
The system restarts must be an old issue as I hired a Pug van from enterprise and it froze and rebooted when I was on DAB
Bikerdanny
30 Aug 151#1224
Ha I had a blast over from holmfirth to woodhead then to glossop from woodhead this early afternoon :smiley:
zermattbusby
30 Aug 15#1223
Gave her a good blast over Woodhead early this morning :smile:
WOW this things fun!
davver99
30 Aug 15#1222
Forum posts I have found I think are for an old smeg software as the latest version on them is 3.21
Bikerdanny
30 Aug 15#1221
I can only find people talking about the problem and no solutions, a couple of them took it into Pug and they basically did nothing as they couldn't find a fault, I've heard Pug tech is working on a fix but can't confirm.
soldierboy001
30 Aug 15#1220
Perhaps they are working on it. Anyone tried to see if there is a forum on it.
davver99
30 Aug 15#1219
Also date of software is 27 Feb 2015
You would think as a new car they would of updated the firmware if there was known issues that's if there is an updated one
davver99
30 Aug 15#1218
Hold menu button down for 7 sec I think
Or try holding source and menus at same time
xoddsockthiefx
30 Aug 15#1217
I have only been driving from my house to the ex to pick my kids up. I'm one side of town she is the other. this is really disappointing that it sounds like a common fault with the unit. luckily I haven't sold my old car yet so I will take it in ASAP and get it looked at.
Bikerdanny
30 Aug 15#1216
How do you check ?
EvilGazebo
30 Aug 15#1215
Same.
davver99
30 Aug 15#1214
What version is everyone else on my version is smeg6.05.D.R8
Bikerdanny
30 Aug 15#1213
I thought I was a lucky one as my screen has been good as gold and not done the restarting fault, Then today when picking up my date it all went wrong and on our hour drive it must have restarted 10 times ( I disconnected my phone via bluetooth to no avil ) on the way back it did the same again.
The only pattern I noticed was that it did the restart fault when I wasn't near my local area e.g going across country, anyone got any better idea's about when it happens ?
EvilGazebo
30 Aug 15#1212
Scrub all that. It did it about 10 times on the 1 hour drive home today. Seems worse when bluetooth streaming or DAB but did it on FM with no phone connected as well. Utter rubbish.
davver99
30 Aug 15#1211
Mine has rebooted at least 10 times really annoying in last 40
xoddsockthiefx
30 Aug 15#1210
mine was only using DAB it restarted every 5 or so minutes last Sunday. all week it's been fine. get in it today and it keeps rebooting every 5 mins. weird that it has only happened on Sundays.
EvilGazebo
30 Aug 15#1209
Hold up....turns out my son was playing a Spotify playlist which wasn't downloaded locally to the phone. So when the internet connection wavered the Pug couldnt cope. Not great but not as bad as I thought....
Bikerdanny
30 Aug 15#1208
The Price is £200+ now and a larger deposit, nothing even close to the price this works out at.
Michalux
30 Aug 15#1207
Any idea where I can get a similar deal now? I regret not getting it at the time it was posted.
EvilGazebo
30 Aug 15#1206
Mine was fine until I started streaming from my phone via bluetooth. Starts stuttering and then whole ICE system reboots. Just happened 4 times in a 25 minute drive. Not sure I could live with that if there isn't a fix. Really basic stuff these days.
davver99
30 Aug 15#1205
I think they are
brembo brakes
soldierboy001
30 Aug 15#1204
You want brakes as well? This is a £166 deal.
Bikerdanny
30 Aug 15#1203
I went with ALA as its highly recommend by lots of people, on the lease car package I choose 2 years cover and entered £9995 worth of cover ( entering 10k raises the price by £10 ha ) it mentions that for lease cars the cover has to be bought within 150 days of getting the car, this means you that even if your Computer insurance will replace your car for a new one for the first year, you won't be able to get GAP for the second year. Use Honestjohn.com to get a 10% discount.
zermattbusby
30 Aug 15#1202
5K 2 Years
danny2156
30 Aug 15#1201
How much are we all doing the gap insurance for and for how long? I've checked out ala and they only gave me a 1 or 2 year option??
aliturner1303
29 Aug 15#1200
No not after full whack sound, was just wondering if they packed any punch. Is there a nice bit of bass or are they a bit tinny?
Bikerdanny
29 Aug 15#1199
Now they are obviously a not premium branded sound system and I've got some awesome monitors at home, but I feel they are quite good. I don't think they will go deafly loud through if that's what your into, but I've had it up to 3/4 of full volume and there wasn't any distortion, pops or bangs. TBH I've had the radio on low so I can hear that exhaust note :smiley:
Bikerdanny
29 Aug 15#1198
The spec sheet for this facelift verson said it had brembos, but the calipers are clearly different to the GTI by Peugeot sport ( the new name for the 30th ) which do have Brembos. Can't complain about the anchors at all !
aliturner1303
29 Aug 15#1197
Can anyone tell me if the speakers are any good in this car?
dazco
29 Aug 15#1196
What brakes have these cars got?
traileruk
29 Aug 151#1195
<25 and you're going to be paying an arm and a leg. 1 more year and you're in the cheap insurance club though!
Bikerdanny
28 Aug 15#1194
When I was originally shopping around and using a pre-facelift verson for qoutes it was coming out at £550ish and £600 with PCH as the owner, as soon as I put PCH as the owner and keeper and my facelift car details in they rocketed to £700-£800 with the 3 lowest qoutes demanding trackers !
My current suppler - LV charge £800 without a tracker and they have a good reputation. I'm 24 with 3 years NCB and no claims and no penalty points.
I'm okay with paying that amount as its an amazing car, but just a bit miffed that it jumped up so much.
microfrost
28 Aug 15#1193
Direct Line seem to be good for insurance at£314 for me (and topcashback) . I confirmed via live chat and they are happy with any combination of keeper/owner and Peugeot and there application doesn't ask the details, it's in the assumptions section.
traileruk
28 Aug 151#1192
No you don't. Just make sure OTHERS don't watch your speed. Especially the big yellow boxes dotted around the roads.
nrps1
28 Aug 15#1191
Thanks, looks good! Flicking through, had read somewhere it has radar cruise control, but doesn't appear to, gutted as really fancied that!
Unfortunately I don't remember where I found it TBH, it was a simplish google search that brought it up through. Defiantly worth a read so you can learn about some of the cars hidden features.
soldierboy001
28 Aug 152#1187
Was referring to what was on the screen. AFCB.
Bikerdanny
28 Aug 151#1186
Soool after my late call yesterday informing me that my car cam be delivered today, I get woken up by my housemate saying I have a delivery. It got delivered at 9ish ! Over the moon with it so far, just have to watch my speed.
nrps1
28 Aug 15#1185
Do you have a link to that mate?
nrps1
28 Aug 15#1184
How does he get home?! Does someone follow in another car? Surely easier to stick on a flat bed?
nrps1
28 Aug 15#1183
Hope it is nice, only downside I have is I've got a Nissan 350Z which is 1 second faster 0-60 than this, so think I may feel a little underwhelmed? Thankfully though it is more tricked out and much newer!
nrps1
28 Aug 15#1182
Same... Had arm rest which is a major issue apparently...
Mr Bananas
28 Aug 151#1181
Weekly review - - the Eco mode - I've had the car "stall" when pulling out at roundabouts (after its restarted with the clutch depressed) - the last thing I need ... so the button will be staying in the off position going forward . The GUI for the media has to be the most unintuitive layout I've come across ... more choices than the starship enterprise but http://www.confused.com
The heated seats are rapid - 9 seconds and my backside is toasting ... the best option for a cold morning whilst waiting on the heater getting up to temp ,, the passenger side window isn't auto up on a long press , nor is it a full closure alarm (long press windows up) folding mirrors are great (i know when walking away that i've locked up !. 32 MPG seems to be my average , love the 2 x needle blip when performing the pre flight check :o) oh .... and that steering wheel is tiny
davver99
28 Aug 15#1180
not massive
davver99
28 Aug 15#1179
haha who do you support ?
blackandamber
28 Aug 151#1178
One more quick question, It mentioned in the paperwork that it includes breakdown cover throughout the hire period? Who is this with, I cannot find it anywhere?
iq938
28 Aug 15#1177
I was told by VH that the car needs 1 service a year so 1 for the whole duration.
Does anyone know if the car can be purchased at the end of the contract?
What is the space in the back seats like, is it tight for an adult?
BarryRiley
28 Aug 15#1176
It's only a Peugeot, what do you expect? I think it was a pretty good deal for a budget hot hatch
Peebs
28 Aug 15#1175
I've always serviced my previous lease cars at main dealers. You shouldn't need to do it at Evans Halshaw.
blackandamber
28 Aug 15#1174
Can anyone tell me what to do regarding services? When is one due and does it need to go to Evan Halshaws?
hero9989
28 Aug 151#1173
The delivery note. Supposed to sign it to say you've received the car and everything is in order, etc. But apparently they didn't receive the email I sent with the scan of the document attached. I've also just changed my number (new contract) so they were panicking and saying they couldn't get hold of me and were going to report it as stolen as they hadn't heard back from me that I had received the car! So make sure you send them this form and confirm they have received it as soon as you have your car!
soldierboy001
28 Aug 15#1172
The shot of the dash screen shows lack of taste, won't be buying one of these.
SergioGeorgini
28 Aug 15#1171
What form is this hero? I had my car delivered two weeks ago and I haven't had to complete and return a form for NVS?
hero9989
28 Aug 15#1170
Dissapointing... Oh well, Supposedly they're adding Apple CarPlay later this year via an update (or them's the rumours!). Will wait patiently (I've shown how patient I can be! :P).
davver99
28 Aug 15#1169
davver99
28 Aug 151#1168
Pics of inside and Web browser
davver99
28 Aug 15#1167
Mine was 11.20 am in bmth
deanyboy
27 Aug 151#1166
It was delivered just past 1pm today, got a call 45 mins before to say they wee coming, arrived on the back of a low loader with 3.5 miles on the clock!
The other one is the missus car and she has already said she will be trying to steal mine when she can!
Bikerdanny
27 Aug 15#1165
Great to hear you got yours deany :smiley: what time did they deliver it at ? I'm guessing it has slightly more poke than your normal 208 :b
deanyboy
27 Aug 153#1164
Got mine earlier today, both the missus and I are insured so took it for 100 mile drive. We both had a go at driving and have to say it is ace! Takes the edge of the holiday blues having flown back in yesterday!
EvilGazebo
27 Aug 15#1163
What traileruk said. Mirrorlink seems effectively useless. For me it will be Spotify controlled on the phone screen and bluetoothed to the car.Maybe with some local tunes on the usb as well. Decision now is whether I am going to stump up for a decent Brodit phone mount.....
traileruk
27 Aug 15#1162
I read it was ONLY possible on an iphone 4. No idea why that specific device tbh.
I have. I still can't get any of the mirror link stuff to work though... I thought there was a way to mirror the screen (I'm sure I saw it on the 108 at some point). I'd love this if possible but it's pretty much undocumented :disappointed:
saycey
27 Aug 151#1160
Yea if I were to own the car then I would want the 65 plate :P also where I live I feel like the car will be a target :/ that's all I'm worried about :L
Bikerdanny
27 Aug 151#1159
Has anyone with the car looked at the car manual at all ? I've got a PDF copy of it and the amount of stuff the car can do is almost beyond belief ! I'm a tech geek and its seriously impressive all the systems etc.
Bikerdanny
27 Aug 15#1158
I'm not bothered myself about it being on a 15 plate ether and wouldn't trust NVS to change the paperwork properly without messing it up/ causing more delays, hopefully being on a 15plate will make it slightly less desirable to thief's as well !
saycey
27 Aug 15#1157
Had my delivery date confirmed for next Fridays aswell :smiley: wasn't bothered that it will be on a 15 plate. About time I might add! :smile:
Bikerdanny
27 Aug 15#1156
TBH it still hasn't hit be fully as it happened so quick, one minute i'm banging my head against a brick wall as the car was delayed multiple times and everyone was getting there's and now I finally get my car that I've been thinking daily about - Massive petrol head and all my mates having hot hatches makes for a long wait :smiley:
hero9989
27 Aug 151#1155
10:30am for me. The guy had to drive 120 miles from the dealer to me so I guess he set off around 8am? Maybe a bit before. Might be able to work out from that a rough time? But they may well leave later/take longer due to traffic, etc... Who knows... Glad you're finally getting yours! Enjoy!
Bikerdanny
27 Aug 15#1154
Can I ask everyone at what time did they get there cars delivered ? It seams for a lot of you's it was in the morning.
Mr Bananas
27 Aug 151#1153
Great news .... Bet your feeling like a kid on Christmas Eve ;0) , well worth the wait Bikerdanny .... That's my first week in and it's still scaring the bejesus out of me !
Bikerdanny
27 Aug 153#1152
WTF just happened, after months of waiting and numerous emails chasing them up and being let down time and time again with delays I get a phone call 2 hours ago offering a delivery slot of tomorrow or next Friday.....naturally I'm a patient sort of guy sooo I practically yelled "tomorrow" down the phone ! Insurance has already been swapped and sorting out GAP insurance now.
Peebs
27 Aug 15#1151
Delivery confirmed for next Friday! A little light at the end of this long old tunnel!
aliturner1303
27 Aug 15#1150
I've had that feeling quite a few times over the last couple of months!
magicow
27 Aug 15#1149
Thanks for the pointer! I compared the VIN numbers and they match... skepticism gone! I'm guessing I'll be in the same position as you with inspection on Tuesday and delivery some point after.
Looks like we're getting somewhere.
aliturner1303
27 Aug 15#1148
I have just requested new finance documents since I'd rather wait a few days for the 65 plate (not that I was going to get it in August anyway!). Simon has sent through with revised 65 number plate, but the same VIN chassis number so it will be the same car. He also advised the car should be having its Pre-Delivery inspection on Tuesday and then he can get in touch with regards to delivery.
magicow
27 Aug 15#1147
Received my amended documents through earlier after a 16 day wait. Now printed, signed and with the post office. I noticed the car has changed from a 15 plate to a 65 plate now, nice, but it makes me wonder did they reallocate the 'original'(?) car to someone else and that's why I've been waiting?
traileruk
27 Aug 15#1146
So I electronically signed the contract and sent it back with an image of my signature embedded into the PDF. Apparently Peugeot live in the stone age as they don't accept electronically signed contracts. Typical. I wonder just how many more delays and mess ups I can get from this car.
davver99
27 Aug 152#1145
It is an absolute beauty
Nice rumble from engine :smiley:
EvilGazebo
27 Aug 15#1144
If you are in Bournemouth it will probably have come from Sheerness.
philblythegill2
27 Aug 15#1143
It might have been mentioned but...
Peugoet Contract Hire value the car at £20,000. If you crash it on your way home from having it delivered and it's written off, your insurance company might only pay out £18,000.
Gap Insurance would cover the £2,000 difference.
hero9989
27 Aug 15#1142
Optional but highly recommended. It's additional to your normal insurance.
If your car is written off. The insurance company will give you money to buy an equivalent used car of the same age and condition as your now written off car. GAP insurance will pay the difference between the amount the insurance company pay for this, and the price of a brand new vehicle.
iq938
27 Aug 15#1141
I sent my paperwork earlier this week. Car delivery now confirmed for next Friday on a new 65 Reg.
I am confused about GAP insurance as I have not used it before.
Is GAP compulsory or optional?
Is GAP on top of existing insurance or does it replace it?
davver99
27 Aug 15#1140
I was already with aviva just change the reg number
davver99
27 Aug 15#1139
Just had a call it's about an hour away not bad if it has come from Doncaster to Bournemouth that quick
zermattbusby
27 Aug 15#1138
Dav, would you not have been better to just apply online, putting PCH as both owner and keeper. Plus you get £60.00 cashback via Quidco
davver99
27 Aug 15#1137
Just called aviva they seemed a bit confused about Peugeot being the registered keeper
In the end they kept asking where it was kept I said my home address then they asked a supervisor they in the end put it as me as keeper
And to call back if different ?
Edit all sorted in the end
hero9989
27 Aug 152#1136
Oh wow, Just got a call from NVS. They never received the form saying I received the car (I did email it, not sure why it didn't go through!). If they don't receive it by the end of the day the car is going to be marked as stolen! Drama!
davver99
26 Aug 151#1135
finance docs signed and returned monday 17th late afternoon
messaged back on tuesday 18th i could pick a delivery date and the soonest was the 27/08/15
blackandamber
26 Aug 152#1134
Finally mine has arrived, I waited in all day at the confirmed delivery address only to have a phone call from work to say it had been dropped off there. Luckily I only live 6 minutes away so the driver waited from me to arrive and check everything over.
To those waiting, it is indeed well worth the wait!
Bikerdanny
26 Aug 15#1133
When did they give you the delivery date davver ?
Bikerdanny
26 Aug 15#1132
Very similar story myself with those dates, my car finally arrived in the country Monday.
aliturner1303
26 Aug 151#1131
Original delivery was mid July, then slowly crept back to 02/08, then 09/08, 16/08, 23/08, and now apparently tonight.
Originally ordered with NVS and got approved on 01/06!
davver99
26 Aug 15#1130
when was your car due into the uk originally ?
mine was 03/08 then slipped to wc 10/08 then it arrived on the 17th
all approved with paperwork last tues and delivery is tomorrow :smiley:
Signed and returned my documents on 03/08 and paid first payment same day, still awaiting a delivery date!
I have been advised by Simon (Jody is on holiday) that the vehicle will arrive into the UK tonight. Still no idea on delivery though.
Peebs
26 Aug 15#1127
Well I signed and returned my paperwork 2 weeks ago and paid the deposit and I'm still waiting for delivery. I checked if the car was actually in the UK after reading on here that some of your cars were still at the port and was told it wasn't on the list so should be here. Then I was told on last week that it was actually still at the port and would be in the UK on Friday. I was then told it would be at the delivery centre on Monday. I'm still waiting to hear a delivery date.
This is the third car I've leased and I've never had any of this hassle. I've previously had cars with VW and Arval and they ran smooth even when they were collected at the end of the lease. Evans Halshaw and Peugeot really need to sort themselves out.
danny2156
26 Aug 15#1126
documents have arrived, but I'm away for 2 weeks. still I will get the new reg. what's the best gap company, seen it somewhere.already but can no longer find it...
soldierboy001
26 Aug 15#1125
Not in a wind tunnel but in a wind free room and on an electrically controlled drum that represents the road and is mainly carried out for CO2 emissions and the MPG figures are an off shoot, the main discrimination comes out of the fact that no wind or rain is involved which can greatly affect the MPG. Plus other factors of course, you can't brive as well as a computer operated machine.
hero9989
26 Aug 15#1124
I'm used to driving tiny cars that I've been pretty good at driving economically in. This is completely different though! I'll need to take a trip to Manchester at some point to see what I get. Definitely not a car meant for stop/start city driving!
xoddsockthiefx
26 Aug 151#1123
manufacturers figures are not produced on the road. they are in a wind tunnel with most of the intro trim removed. or so I heard.
I did a 200 mile round trip last week and I think I got 53mpg while on motorway. before and after no where near.
karlie88
26 Aug 151#1122
I've managed to get the claimed MPG in a variety of cars...but to very specific driving situations.
Drive behind a tall lorry on motorway with minimal traffic - stick to about 55mph and in the highest gear possible with no air con on. Makes for boring driving but you should get well above 50mpg.
hero9989
26 Aug 15#1121
Has anyone managed to get close to the 52mpg in this car? I haven't done many long journeys (mostly in town) but I'm lucky if I average around 40 (this is me trying to drive economically, using start stop etc whenever i get to traffic lights). How on earth is 52 even remotely possible? 0.0
hero9989
25 Aug 151#1120
From what I've read from various sites, you can say to them, you want it delivering at a certain date (so if it's ready a bit early - you can take delivery a couple of weeks later. I think I'd order a bit early rather than late though, to make sure you get it. Worst case you may have a 1 month payment overlap (not ideal but not as bad as no car if you need it to get to work, etc)
Also - if you get a car that's already in stock it should be a lot faster and a lot more predictable. To be fair on them - the car was only released early June.
blackandamber
25 Aug 151#1119
All being well mine will be delivered tomorrow. This is the first time I have leased a car and to be honest it has not been quite as smooth as I thought. Does anyone else have experience with what to do at the end of the lease? When do you order a new car? I really could not be without a car for 2 months which is what would have happened this time.
xoddsockthiefx
25 Aug 151#1118
I don't think anyone in the history of motor vehicles has ever said anything nice about Evans Halshaw.
dazco
25 Aug 15#1117
Still not got mine, any question or anything that needs altering takes at least a week.
I will never use Evans Halshaw for anything ever again.
TRIXXYDIXXY
25 Aug 15#1116
I'm going to check if the 12v socket is constant live. I know the Focus switched off 30 minutes after locking the car. I'm hoping the 208 does something similar as I don't want my dash cam draining the battery.
I've ordered a hard wire kit and will use a piggyback fuse to make a neater installation.
gwernham
24 Aug 15#1115
My Brother used the car the next day (24 miles), and its been used for some short trips since. No more instances of it happening. So ok for the moment.
Bikerdanny
24 Aug 15#1114
Cheers, I'll buy a extra long USB cable and 12V to USB ciggerate adaptor anyhow should I nick the built in USB for the camera.
On another note have Pug changed the central vent trim to black ? Has the GTI still got a red stiched leather ( effect ) dashboard ? - I only ask because I saw a picture before and they looked black, could be bad lighting through.
hero9989
24 Aug 151#1113
I was surprised to find out it stays powered :smiley:. Not sure if it's on 24-7 or is triggered by something like the door opening or something But i've plugged my phone in before putting the key in and it's started charging.
Bikerdanny
24 Aug 15#1112
Do any of you's with the lovely Pug 208 GTI know if the USB port is ignition switched or constant live - e.g with the key removed does the USB port still power devices ?
I'm asking as i'm interested in keeping my dash cam on all the time and even through I'm a maintenance engineer and could easily rig a fused circuit together to power it constantly I won't want to risk any warranty/ insurance claim issues due to my custom bit of wiring.
Cheers
traileruk
24 Aug 153#1111
Finally got my finance documents through from VS via email. Listed with a 65 plate so wont even be able to use it or get delivery till 1st Sept. I wonder if their plan was to hold back early august delivery to get the newer plates or something.
Finally starting to get excited though...12 weeks on.
Edit: Oh and to also throw a spanner in the works...I've moved flat since my initial order went through, and you guessed it, my contract lists my old address (even though I tried to update it). I'm hoping I can just start the contract and then just change the address once I get the car etc. I'm not sure I can deal with another few weeks of contract change delays.
TRIXXY DIXXY
24 Aug 151#1110
Solved the problem. My iPhone still had the Bluetooth SYNC settings stored from the Ford Focus. I deleted it, then the Peugeot bluetooth could 'see' my iPhone when I done a search.
Didn't realise that the 208 was actually quicker than the ST to 60 :-)
xoddsockthiefx
24 Aug 15#1109
can you not find the Bluetooth settings in the pug or is it just not pairing with your iPhone.
xoddsockthiefx
24 Aug 15#1108
0-60 time is 6.3 seconds. same as focus st hatch. so it should be a fraction quicker than you estate
TRIXXYDIXXY
24 Aug 15#1107
Mine arrived today. Was a bit concerned about how much power it has compared to my Focus ST Estate but it's still a quick little motor.
Only thing I'm struggling with is pairing my iPhone?
xoddsockthiefx
24 Aug 15#1106
not sure. there does seem to be dab - fm in light grey at the bottom of my display. but it's not switching to fm as far as I know. been out for as long today and it reset once. compared to about 15 times yesterday. I haven't got Bluetooth connected though.
Bikerdanny
24 Aug 15#1105
Congrats Dave, was yours a NVS order ? What date did you order on ? Cheers.
DavieTee
24 Aug 155#1104
Mine arrived Friday, it's absolutely brilliant.
hero9989
24 Aug 15#1103
That's what I figured. Can the radio switch between the DAB and FM versions of the same channel? When listenning to a station, it says DAB FM at the top. I figured it was switching between the 2 when the signal went bad.Not sure though.
xoddsockthiefx
23 Aug 15#1102
audio cutting out but unit stays on? if your using dab then it does that sometimes depending on reception strength.
hero9989
23 Aug 151#1101
May have figured out why my car alarm went off (at least one of the times). Went out to my car, and the dash cam I installed had fallen from where I installed it! Wouldn't be surprised if it falling had set the alarm off. Not sure about the other time, but one freak alarm incident I can deal with... Will see how it goes.
Probably going to have to wait on something official from Peugeot I guess... I've noticed the audio on the radio cut out a couple of times, but when I'm litenning to my phone via bluetooth or USB it's flawless.
Also - I've decided I'm not a fan of either of the SATNAV voices... The directions for the satnav appearing on the main console though is a fantastic idea! much better than having to look at the main touch screen.
xoddsockthiefx
23 Aug 15#1100
yeah. been having a read on 208forum and it's seems a few are having problems with the SMEG. (touchscreen unit) they are saying dealers don't know what's causing it so can't fix it.
Bikerdanny
23 Aug 152#1099
Same here ! Haha.
davver99
23 Aug 15#1098
A trip to local dealer then ?
xoddsockthiefx
23 Aug 15#1097
OK I'm getting annoyed with the touchscreen console. it resets every 5 mins.
saycey
23 Aug 152#1096
Tell u what. Waiting for this car has been a great test of my patience. Hopefully it's has come into the UK over the weekend and there are no more delays...
hero9989
23 Aug 15#1095
Haha, so obvious... Will I have to double lock the car every time? I assume lock once so it locks and the wing mirrors fold. then lock again?
karlie88
23 Aug 15#1094
Go inside the car.
Press the lock button once and move around. If that activates the alarm then you know the sensors are working. Deactivate alarm etc.
Now do the same but press the lock button twice and move around again. If alarm doesn't activate then bingo!
hero9989
23 Aug 15#1093
It is quite windy but I don't want my car thinking it's being broken into whenever the wind picks up). It seems quite random anyway, we had massive amounts of rain yesterday and the alarm didn't go off. it's dry today, but windy, and it goes off?
How would I know if the alarm is turned off? I'd happily do that. I live in the kind of area you could (but wouldn't haha) happily leave your car and house unlocked while you went on holiday and it'd be fine. I can survive without the alarm when it's parked at home.
Any idea what these look like?
xoddsockthiefx
23 Aug 15#1092
is yours still doing it?
xoddsockthiefx
23 Aug 15#1091
did they sort it out. mine has done it 4.times this morning.
Bikerdanny
23 Aug 15#1090
Sounds like a problem :/ all I can suggest is there are detectors built into the A pillar trim, try blowing into these in case there is somehow dust in front of the sensor - this is a wild guess as I'm not to sure what type of sensors they are.
karlie88
23 Aug 15#1089
Wind, heavy rain?
Not sure with the Peug but if you press the lock button twice does that disable the alarm? Not sure whether you'd be happy doing that though?
hero9989
23 Aug 15#1088
Okay, it's driving me mad now... I love the car, but the alarm! It keeps going off for no reason! The street is empty, not even a cat anywhere near the car and the alarm went off. Anyone had this?
Bikerdanny
22 Aug 15#1087
Excellent as I'm with LV, hopefully they won't charge substantial more than other suppliers so I don't have to swap.
gary2476
22 Aug 15#1086
Thanks, I had only just set up the insurance over the phone then asked about what would happen specifically in this case if the car was written off etc. I should have read the T&C's before posting.
karlie88
22 Aug 15#1085
Aviva won't replace the car in the first 12 months because you're not the registered keeper - be very careful what a telephone advisor says. You really should be reading the basic T&Cs yourself.
zermattbusby
22 Aug 151#1084
LV= quite happy insuring PCH both owner and keeper
They also mirrored my existing 12 years NCB
gary2476
22 Aug 15#1083
I've just gone with Aviva, they are ok with Peugeot as owner and keeper. An advantage with Aviva is that they replace the car for the first year if it is written off or stolen so you don't need GAP Insurance.
markvirgo
22 Aug 15#1082
Same here, Not happy at all
blackandamber
22 Aug 15#1081
Ok, looks like i will have to cancel with them and go with a new provider. Seems odd how some will cover and some wont.
karlie88
22 Aug 15#1080
Yes, but you can (normally) only have a NCD on one policy.
blackandamber
22 Aug 15#1079
Anyone having trouble sorting insurance? Currently with sure thing and they will not insure if Peugeot are both the owner and the keeper. Looks like I will need new insurance. Can you legally have two car insurance policies?
soldierboy001
21 Aug 15#1078
That was yesterday, check your diary.
IncensedCape
21 Aug 15#1077
Hey Danny, is Simon the manager or is it somebody else at NVS? If mine doesn't arrive in the country on Monday as promised I would like to escalate. Thanks!
davver99
21 Aug 15#1076
Thanks for that :stuck_out_tongue:
aliturner1303
21 Aug 15#1075
Any review for the stereo guys? I want to know if i can pump out some tunes whilst whizzing around everywhere!
Bikerdanny
21 Aug 151#1074
Great to hear your enjoying your car Hero. I know you were messed around alot and should have been one of the first to receive their car.
Bikerdanny
21 Aug 15#1073
Another week gone by another week of " I'll ask the dealer for a update " after emailing the manager 2 weeks ago apparently there was a manifesto for my car to be shipping into the UK last Friday after having to get in touch with the manager again I've been told this Monday and that there may be even more delays due to all the 65plate cars beening moved around. FFS.
xoddsockthiefx
21 Aug 15#1072
seats have 4 settings I think. day after I thought seat felt a bit warm. it was only on setting 1 but I could feel it. the ride is stiffer than normal cars. depends what your used to driving.
saycey
21 Aug 15#1071
Very Nice! :smile:
davver99
21 Aug 15#1070
Like the black
microfrost
21 Aug 155#1069
It's arrived!
davver99
21 Aug 15#1068
Anyone tried the heated seats are they decent
Also is the ride hard
davver99
21 Aug 15#1067
Ohhhhh Thursday needs to hurry. Up
Mr Bananas
21 Aug 151#1066
No ... I'm just sinking the right pedal on a regular basis ..... and giggling inside ;0) the novelty will wear off and I'll return to frugal driving eventually !
xoddsockthiefx
21 Aug 151#1065
basic stuff really. keep revs down. block change if necessary. keep accelerator steady. don't keep pushing down and releasing etc. anticipating traffic is also a good way. as the more you have to slow down the more fuel you will use to get back up to speed. make sure you are always in the right gear for your speed when you want to accelerate. high gear might seem like a better idea as less revs but engine will have to work a little harder.
Rackedon
21 Aug 15#1064
Any tips for how best to do that?
xoddsockthiefx
21 Aug 151#1063
fastest car I owned before this was over 10 years ago. Peugeot 306 gti-6. that was quick. this is quicker. although I think the 306 felt more powerful and held the road better. wider stance and lower.
xoddsockthiefx
21 Aug 15#1062
are you driving round in 2nd gear? I've done 360 miles in just over a week and I'm averaging 38.6mpg. although I have become very adept over the years at driving fast but efficient.
Mr Bananas
21 Aug 151#1061
I've went from a 1.3 Corsa Ecoflex 75ps (that would'nt pull a drunk man off a barstool) to a neck snapping 208 ps go-kart ... the commute to work is the best part now !
hero9989
21 Aug 155#1060
DEAR GOD THIS THING IS FAST!
Went for a quick drive during lunch. My previous two cars were a 1.0L Seat Mii and a 1.2L Seat Ibiza were pretty nice to drive. This thing is a monster! Wow... It's just effortless!
Haven't played around with any of the tech yet (that will have to wait until after work. For anyone who has yet to receive their car I'll say this. It IS worth the wait.
Mr Bananas
21 Aug 152#1059
Well , my average MPG is up to 19 today :o) , Quoting my daughter " Don't go so fast off the lights Daddy , I'm going to pee myself " ..... phew - just as well its leather seats
blackandamber
21 Aug 15#1058
Ha, that was my first thought, seems very odd. Well fingers crossed a Peugeot turns up. (I am on with NVS to triple check this is correct)
UPDATE: Peugeot Finance are both the registered keeper and owner.
karlie88
21 Aug 15#1057
Have you ordered a Polo GTI? :laughing:
£5k of cover is more than sufficient. ALA or Gap 123 are the best to go for.
blackandamber
21 Aug 15#1056
Finally got confirmation of delivery for next week!!
Oddly and different from most people VWFS is the registered owner and I am the registered keeper?
Finally, could someone point me in the right direction of GAP insurance, I have seen it mentioned but it was many pages back. Also am I right in thinking I only need to cover say 17000 - 22000 or is that wrong. Very new to this.
davver99
21 Aug 15#1055
pics if you can :wink: bet it looks nice in the red
hero9989
21 Aug 15#1054
Red :smiley:
steviekia
21 Aug 15#1053
Not a happy chappy.just been told mine has went from mid August to 11th October! anybody else been fobbed off or just me?
wish I had pestered them from the start, instead of trusting it would be fine.
Mabe get it for Xmas then again mabe not.
davver99
21 Aug 15#1052
did you order the black ?
saycey
21 Aug 15#1051
Glad you finally got it :P get some pics up when you have a chance :smiley:
hero9989
21 Aug 156#1050
It's just been delivered! Kind of heartbreaking to have to leave it in the car park... Gonna go out at lunch and have a bit of a play :smile:
gwernham
20 Aug 15#1049
My brother used the car on Wednesday (his turn for the hot-hatch) and it also rebooted 5 times in 23 miles (over 4 different trips during the day). I used the car today, traveling 72 miles (over 3 trips) and I had no issues. I was using DAB, USB and bluetooth during this time.
I did join/pair the car with my home broadband so it could be that the car or radio is downloading firmware updates, then applying them during the journey.
Anyway so weird that the same thing happened.
karlie88
20 Aug 152#1048
Mr Bananas
20 Aug 153#1047
you'll never guess what has arrived a day early? its sitting on the drive smelling of brake disc burning aroma - its a seriously quick little point & squirt pocket rocket - now to fill up with Shell Optimax :0)
davver99
20 Aug 15#1046
atleast they will have to do some admin for that great price of £199
TRIXXYDIXXY
20 Aug 15#1045
Yep and yep.
It took them 7 days to amend my paperwork, then a delay because I hadn't sent a copy of my driving ID card, then another delay because the scan of my driving ID card wasn't clear enough. lol
copple
20 Aug 15#1044
Mines gone in to my local dealer today as touch screen keeps freezing and rebooting itself. Happened about 5 times within 30 miles. Anyone else had similar issues?
gary2476
20 Aug 15#1043
If car is through Evans Halshaw, it goes to Sandtoft at the south side of the M180 where it is prepared and delivered to you from there. It doesn't see a dealership, only on paper.
magicow
19 Aug 152#1042
Trixxy has had that issue and so have I, 8 days and counting to change two digits.. I did order with NVS.
Bikerdanny
19 Aug 15#1041
Was it you Trixxy that had the mileage allowance mess up on your paperwork ? And was it NVS you was with ?
davver99
19 Aug 15#1040
Will have a nice trip down to Bournemouth hope it doesn't rain
TRIXXYDIXXY
19 Aug 15#1030
Been a bit of a ball ache but finally got a delivery date for Monday, and I'm off all that week
Mr Bananas to TRIXXYDIXXY
19 Aug 151#1038
Great news! Enjoy
Mr Bananas to TRIXXYDIXXY
19 Aug 15#1039
Great news! Enjoy
davver99
19 Aug 15#1032
anyone know where cars are stored in the uk is it up north ?
EvilGazebo to davver99
19 Aug 15#1035
Mine came from Sheerness (to Berkshire).
xoddsockthiefx to davver99
19 Aug 15#1037
York dealer. but it is stored at a massive storage facility north of Doncaster.
lutherinlondon
19 Aug 15#1024
Has anyone who went through VS actually received either a date or any paperwork, or heaven forbid.... An actual vehicle?
traileruk to lutherinlondon
19 Aug 15#1026
Nope. Was told 03/08. Got an email that Thursday (06/08) saying a delivery had arrived at a dealership and they would let me know when they were allocated and if they knew who they belong to. Not heard anything since. Biggest cowboy industry going it seems. I think it takes the "dodgy car salesman" stereotype to a whole new level.
xoddsockthiefx to lutherinlondon
19 Aug 15#1036
I ordered 2nd June with VS. got my car last Tuesday. its white and standard.
gwernham
19 Aug 15#1034
My car came from York.
Michalux
19 Aug 15#1033
Is GAP insurance necessary on those? And what else do I need to ensure before getting a new lease car?
microfrost
19 Aug 15#1031
all over email via carlease4u. get it in two days
davver99
19 Aug 15#1029
thats ok then :wink:
just booked mine for next thursday :wink:
Rackedon
19 Aug 15#1028
On one side I understand not communicating to give any updates if they are not any. But on the other side I went a month without hearing anything and emailed yesterday to be told "end of August". Response has been good generally though, usually get a reply within an hour or two. I just want my car!
hero9989
19 Aug 15#1027
This Friday! 21/08/15
davver99
19 Aug 15#1025
this week or next week ?
Rackedon
19 Aug 151#1023
Lucky! Though after everything your car has been through I'm happy for you!! Post pics when it comes please :stuck_out_tongue:
hero9989
19 Aug 15#1022
My delivery was confirmed via email yesterday for Friday. Metallic Red
microfrost
19 Aug 151#1020
I just had confirmed delivery for mine on Friday. It's black and was ordered on the 2nd but placed with the dealer on the 3rd. I went through another broker and interestingly mine isn't coming from Evans. Admiral have accepted the insurance, they wanted to know how long the lease was for but I think I might call them to check all is in order.
Has anyone else had a black one delivered yet? Mine is standard spec.
Rackedon to microfrost
19 Aug 15#1021
Did they phone to confirm delivery or email? Also I take it this is NVS?
gwernham
18 Aug 15#1019
I think they said there was a £19 charge. But I think that was due to me changing the insurance recently for my temp car which I sold a few days before the 208 arrived. I'm the end they did not charge it anyway.
gwernham
18 Aug 15#1017
Yea. I am with Aviva and the accepted me Peugeot as owner and keeper.
davver99 to gwernham
18 Aug 15#1018
That's OK then was there any charge ?
davver99
18 Aug 15#1016
Anyone here insured with aviva I think I have seen some are and they were OK with Peugeot being the owner and keeper ?
gary2476
18 Aug 15#1015
I ordered mine on 5 June and have got a delivery date of 25 August.
I rang the AA to change my insurance and after a while when I told them Peugeot are the keeper and owner they told me they can't insure it as it is a hire car of sorts and their underwriters don't cover hire cars!
Don't know if people are aware but the car never sees a dealership. They are imported into Killingholme near Immingham then go to Sandtoft which is a large car/van storage/preparation site next to the M180 where they are prepared and delivered to your address from there.
iq938
18 Aug 15#1008
Ordered my car on 2nd June. I was told by the sales guy that it would be end June then Mid July.
He then went on holiday and now dealing with someone else it is still not here mid August.
I am being told that the car is in Zeebrugge which is the Belgian port. Slightly further from Calais but I am glad they went that way with all the issues at Calais.
I logged a case with Peugeot support and they said its down to Evans Halshaw and VH are supposed to keep me updated and get the information. Peugeot said the car will be in the UK in 24hrs.
It takes a week to get the car ready to deliver so i might as well wait for 65 plate. Anyone else going for 65 plate?
Anyone got the insurance yet whats the cost roughly? I am 30 with 10 years NCD.
So when we get the insurance we put Peugeot CH as the owner and keeper?
xoddsockthiefx to iq938
18 Aug 15#1009
owner and keeper. yes.
Bikerdanny to iq938
18 Aug 15#1014
My car has already been registered - got a reg number anyway, but was still at the same port as yours last week. Who have you gone with ?
markvirgo
18 Aug 15#1013
Hi How are you all getting the delivery info as my wife hasn't had any contact since ordering and paying the fee.
lutherinlondon
18 Aug 15#1011
Anyone have the number for Evans Halshaw and Peugeot?
saycey to lutherinlondon
18 Aug 15#1012
Also a contact email would be great too :smiley:
lutherinlondon
17 Aug 151#994
Just received this from VS.... From Evans Halshaw...
“Please can you circulate this around your team.
We are being told by Peugeot that the logistics side (providers/storage/shipping capacity/transporters etc…) provision is struggling to keep up with the growth and demand in the UK New Vehicle market as a whole, along with the Peugeot network requiting 4,000 more cars to be moved to the UK than last August, so delays are being incurred. Steps are being taken to speed things up including using foreign transporters to bring over vehicles by rail and ferry in addition to the usual ships along with only sold vehicles being moved from Zeebrugge with anything unsold being deprioritised and left there.
Peugeot are apologetic for the delays but are doing all they can to manage the problems being caused by these constraints.”
xoddsockthiefx to lutherinlondon
17 Aug 15#995
that sounds about right.
blame the foreigners.
I did say a while ago that as this is a factory build lease and it's apparent popularity that delays will be inevitable. I'm glad I ordered fairly early and had relatively little problems. I did however order with VS not NVS. I don't know if that made a difference.
anyway I have had my car since Tuesday and am very impressed with it.
I opened it up on Saturday night and I must say it's quick. it's quicker than new fiesta st and clip rs
davver99 to lutherinlondon
18 Aug 151#1010
i had this reply yesterday and then today an email explaining its arrived into the uk today
wasn't expecting that tbh
davver99
18 Aug 15#1007
Jeff
davver99
18 Aug 15#1006
Yep the 1st
karlie88
18 Aug 15#1005
Do you mind me asking why you both went with RVL? Was it slightly cheaper?
philblythe
18 Aug 15#1002
My 65 Plate is already booked in 1st September, that's the earliest possible date for the Reg
karlie88 to philblythe
18 Aug 152#1004
I once had a car delivered on a transporter on a 11 plate on the 28th Feb 2011. Driver said it can sit on your drive and that it can only be driven from 1st March.
Those 24 hours were agonising. :laughing:
CPC85
18 Aug 15#1003
Can i ask who you contact is please!, i getting really annoyed now that mine is still around 4/5 weeks away
karlie88
18 Aug 15#1001
Presumably until 1st Sept.
davver99
18 Aug 152#997
just been told my car has finally arrived into the uk i can have in 5 days or wait for 65 reg
so just getting docs done as not bothered about reg
Rackedon to davver99
18 Aug 15#1000
How long would they want you to wait for the 65 reg?
CPC85
18 Aug 15#998
davver99 who was yours with again? did i see RVL mentioned
Just making me want my car more now :disappointed:
lutherinlondon
17 Aug 15#993
That's a very positive way of thinking about things.
hero9989
17 Aug 152#990
On the plus side guys. The later it gets, the more you can trust what you're being told. The less orders they have the easier it will be for them to manage everything! #AlwaysASilverLining haha
karlie88 to hero9989
17 Aug 151#992
Another way to look at it is that you'll still have your car whilst other people will be handing theirs back. :wink:
davver99
17 Aug 15#991
my car is still in Zeebrugge was due to come across 03/08 then 10/08 but nothing
and they dont know what the delay is
wouldn't be surprised if its not here until early sept
Rackedon
17 Aug 15#989
Ordered 2nd of June, email from VS today stating that mine is showing late August delivery. So I take it to mean I have a month to wait.
IncensedCape
17 Aug 15#988
Just spoke to Peugeot who are going to chase it up, will let me know within three working days. Better service than NVS so far!
CPC85
17 Aug 15#987
I am waiting to hear back but if mine gets delayed again ( ordered 2nd June, being told delivered to port W/C 14th Sept) i am going to try pull out of the deal. I have not paid a admin fee as i believe its sort of included in the first payment.
optime
17 Aug 15#986
I ordered with VS on 12 June 2015 and have been chasing every couple of weeks or so for updates. To be fair, it sounds like it's ultimately down to the dealers, but having chased today I've found out that I'm unlikely to get mine until the first week of October at the earliest. Really disappointed given that I had a long journey planned for mid-September and had thought I'd definitely have it by then. =[
Extremely jealous of all you guys who already have it! Hope it's worth the four month wait haha!
steviekia
17 Aug 151#985
I placed my order on 3rd June was advised mid August delivery & have heard zilch.asked for update,nothing.
my problem is that i've had a very good offer made on my present motor that I can't except.
if this is how leasing usually works I think this will be my first and last.
nrps1
17 Aug 15#982
Just been told middle October now. Phew! Wish I'd not added the arm rest...
davver99 to nrps1
17 Aug 15#983
that is crazy just for an arm rest
Bikerdanny to nrps1
17 Aug 154#984
I've heard those armrests are very technical to fit and that the cars have to go on a special production line for this optional extra. I suppose it would be quite hard to attach a armrest when your toolbox only contains various sized baggettes and croissants.
saycey
17 Aug 15#981
The Apocalypse would happen xD
magicow
17 Aug 151#980
Whats getting to me is that I had my papers through meaning the car is probably sitting unloved somewhere because it takes over a week for someone to amend two digits on a contract. Heck, if they send me over the word doc I'd change the mileage from 5,000 to 10,000 myself.
It's hurdle after hurdle with the dealership. It makes me wonder what would have happened if i signed the 5k mileage forms, returned, and then asked for an amendment?
danny2156
17 Aug 15#979
I ordered June 2nd. Told end of July then beginning of August. No idea when it will come though, had no finance papers through yet. might be here for Xmas! wonder where we stand if we continually get messed around. Can we cancel? ? I went for this deal as the 18 months tied in with other plans. The longer it goes on, the more it messes with the plans at the other end.
kpj35
17 Aug 15#973
IncensedCape, did you really only place the order on the 12th, or was that a typo? I ordered on the 5th & I think the last update I got was an Oct delivery!!!!
IncensedCape to kpj35
17 Aug 15#974
Yeah I placed on the 12th:
From: [email protected]
Sent: 12 June 2015 12:07:57
To: ---
Perfect, thank you very much, we’ll get the vehicle secured now.
That delivery date for you is ridiculous! Not sure whether it lies with NVS, or Evans Halshaw, or further along than that but someone is incompetent at their job.
bootymaster to kpj35
17 Aug 15#978
I've been told October aswell mate, ridiculous ain't it! First week in October i've been told.
davver99
17 Aug 15#977
oh another long week then
saycey
17 Aug 151#976
Just had an email from jody saying that nothing has changed and that the dealership is chasing for an update :disappointed:
davver99
17 Aug 15#975
mine was also due 03/08 then got put back to last week no news this morning :disappointed:
saycey
16 Aug 151#972
Yea it will turn up eventually...hopefully haha.
Bikerdanny
16 Aug 152#971
Well I believe I was one of the first to order and pay - 3rd of June, but my car seams to be more delayed that anyone else who ordered around the same time.
You just have to take anything NVS say with a pinch of salt and just try and be okay with the fact the car will turn up sometime over the next month or so, probably....
Bikerdanny
16 Aug 15#968
Danny2156 and saycey are you 2 the other people who's car was stuck at the french port last week and apprantly got shipped on the friday ? They mentioned there were 4 of us in total that it happened to, when did you guy's order and pay ? Cheers
saycey to Bikerdanny
16 Aug 151#970
I ordered and paid on the 2nd June. My car was due in the country last weekend and according to the documents registered on the 14th. Got an email the day after sending the documents back saying it was still at Zeebrugge.
Getting rather annoying now...
IncensedCape
16 Aug 15#969
Happened to me Danny as well, I ordered on the 12th June, only got send the finance docs on the 11th August and paid the next day. Jody said the finance docs were only being sent once they were physically here... I quote:
"Hello,
The last update I had given you was that the vehicle was due into the UK on the 09/08. This status hasn’t changed which would tell me there hasn’t been further delays as yet.
The finance documents are usually issued 3 weeks before delivery but due to how many cars on order the dealership aren’t issuing documents until the vehicles are physically in stock."
This has been a disaster so far ={
saycey
16 Aug 15#967
I hate that nvs don't respond on weekends :disappointed:
danny2156
16 Aug 153#966
The only thing stopping me from getting really **** off is the fact an amazing car will be with me soon. It will be worth the wait.
Camsh
14 Aug 152#962
Mine got delivered today! It's absolutely brilliant. I didn't get a call before delivery which caught me off guard.
Bikerdanny to Camsh
14 Aug 15#963
Ha just a new 208 GTI pulling up outside your house and a knock on the door ? Did you go through NVS ? When did you order ? - I only ask as I feel I was one of the first to order and yet one of the last to get his so going to raise a complaint if that's the case. Cheers
saycey to Camsh
14 Aug 15#965
Great to hear :smile: get some pics up :smile:
xoddsockthiefx
14 Aug 15#964
thanks karlie88
xoddsockthiefx
14 Aug 15#960
could anyone please tell me what GAP cover I should get. I have quotes but should it be for £10000 or £5000??
karlie88 to xoddsockthiefx
14 Aug 151#961
£5k.
Bikerdanny
14 Aug 15#957
Great to hear more people get delivery dates confirmed, sadly my car is like those illegal immigrants over in France, they are both still stuck at the port ! Apparently the manifesto says its being shipped today.
xoddsockthiefx to Bikerdanny
14 Aug 154#958
I bet more migrants are getting across than pugs.
saycey to Bikerdanny
14 Aug 151#959
Hope they are getting shipped today.
davver99
14 Aug 151#956
thanks mine was due that week and then was put back to this week still dont know if its in the uk
enjoy next friday :smiley:
Mr Bananas
14 Aug 15#955
03/08 - I submitted the paperwork 2 days after the deal was posted by BikerDanny
Mr Bananas
14 Aug 151#953
Finally - Christmas Day has been set for the 21st - accepted delivery slot and paid the deposit - it's in the hands of the Gods now - will be praying to Ra, for a dry day on Friday.
davver99 to Mr Bananas
14 Aug 15#954
what week was yours due into the uk 03/08 10/08 ?
saycey
14 Aug 151#952
Oh haha. They seem to get confused by the simplest of things. At least you have a set date now :smiley:
hero9989
14 Aug 15#951
Mine has been a hodgepodge. NVS told me mine was sat at the dealer for around 3 weeks before they decided to tell me it was there. It was assigned to 2 seperate dealers. The one that actually had it, was being told to send it to the other dealer. I can't make much sense of the confusion myself but yeah.
Mine has metallic red paint. So not much chance of it being confused :smiley:
hero9989
2 Jul 155#531
Hey all! Got an update! I messaged them earlier today to no avail, I've just had an email though and
WOOO. Hopefully have it mid July like we were originally told.
For reference, I paid my admin fee on June 2nd.
saycey to hero9989
14 Aug 15#950
Did you get the email stating delays?
Mr Bananas
14 Aug 15#946
So the ongoing saga continues ... post off docs - Peugoet says they need the picture part of the driving licence ( I sent a scan of the paper part ) but it can't be a picture taken with a mobile phone (jpeg) - so I scanned the photo part to my laptop and emailed it off ( jpeg) - same file same size .... it must be wonderful going through life being as thick as **** . This lease application has been an exercise in fustration , god help me when it comes time trying to schedule the next lease car arriving as the old one is returned !! NVS wanted me to transfer the 3 month payment - kicked that one into touch - not a penny until the delivery date is confirmed.
TRIXXY DIXXY to Mr Bananas
14 Aug 15#948
I done exactly the same. lol
I didn't think you needed to send the photocard as well as the paper licence.
I was told to send a scan of my photocard and a screenshot showing proof I'd paid my 1st payment for some reason. Strange how I had to post the documents originally, however I was able to email them when they needed the other bits.
Now I'm just waiting to get a delivery date.
karlie88 to Mr Bananas
14 Aug 153#949
Minor point - but the paper counterpart to your licence is now redundant. I binned mine a few weeks ago.
hero9989
14 Aug 152#947
GUYS!!!
Rackedon
14 Aug 15#945
No excuse at all, but I assume one of the reasons it is taking so long is they vastly underestimated how good a deal it was and how many orders they would get as a result. I plan on leasing my next few cars, so it is good I will not always have to wait 3 months.
xoddsockthiefx
14 Aug 151#944
if it's for a customer. Not really no. if it's a demo like the merc amg gts I drove a few weeks ago. defiantly. I'm fairly young to be doing this job. most of the other guys are semi retired. I rarely break the speed limit no matter what I'm driving.
traileruk
13 Aug 15#942
To be perfectly honest, the wait time isnt what is bothering me. It's the utterly awful estimations. If they had told me it would take 12 weeks when ordering I would have been much more content. The fact they said 8 and then on the 10th week tell me it's going to be another 2 weeks is what's annoying me. I just find that way of working and not knowing time frames shoddy business. I work in an industry where deadlines can't move and work has to be done for that deadline so maybe car sales/leases is just a completely different world to what I'm used to. Maybe I should switch jobs, seems much more relaxing to work to moving deadlines in 2 week increments.
soldierboy001 to traileruk
14 Aug 15#943
I can't believe all this, my last cars have all had a delivery date given to me whilst I sat there and ordered and were delivered in the timeframe, except for my last car and that arrived 3 weeks earlier than expected.
saycey
13 Aug 15#941
Yea great question...I'm sure I would :P hard to resist.
Bikerdanny
13 Aug 151#940
Oddsock honest question now iwht you being a car deliverer, do you rag them if they are quite sporty. E.g if you were delivering a Peugeot 208 GTI to a customer would you hammer it ?
xoddsockthiefx
13 Aug 151#937
high demand increases waiting times. I have been taking out new range rover evoques to customers that have had to wait 8 months! !! if you order an IN STOCK car the whole process takes a week.
saycey to xoddsockthiefx
13 Aug 152#939
Must be a great job getting to drive all them cars :smile:
Haha unless Santa uses yodel :laughing:
davver99
13 Aug 151#938
This is worse than Christmas Day as a kid at least santa delivered on time :smiley:
saycey
13 Aug 15#936
Same. This has put me off getting new cars all together. Just too many delays.
IncensedCape
13 Aug 151#935
Same here. If I knew this was going to be such a farce I probably wouldn't have bothered!
danny2156
13 Aug 151#933
email received saying still in port. Bit of a joke, but what can you do!!!
saycey to danny2156
13 Aug 151#934
Just had the same email....had enough of all these delays.
Bikerdanny
13 Aug 151#932
For those of us that sent our documents off last Monday/Tuesday and yet to hear of any delivery date I know the possible reason, basically after chasing them up twice them emailing Kelly I found out that Evans helshaw made a mistake and 4 of us that got our documents through have our cars waiting at a French port again ! They are not shipping until tomorrow and delievry will be week commencing 24 Aug.
soldierboy001
13 Aug 15#931
It was just that somebody earlier in the Thread said it would be just like a convertible with the roof open. I assume it has a concertina sliding black out. Never been in a car with one of these and wondered where the glass could go.
Thanks for your replies.
Rackedon
13 Aug 15#930
ah I see. Well that sucks, I put in my order on the 2nd of June also. I have since been told my car will be coming week 36. Granted the last update was almost a month ago. Will need to chase them up.
EvilGazebo
13 Aug 15#929
Don't know and I'm back in the office now - will check later. But my assumption would be no - can't see how it could. Single bit of glass too big to go anywhere.
hero9989
13 Aug 15#928
No it doesn't. it's a Panoramic roof. Not sunroof :smiley:
soldierboy001
13 Aug 15#927
Please answer a question that was asked earlier, does the panoramic roof open?
EvilGazebo
13 Aug 15#926
Likewise. Except the call was to my wife at home when I had arranged delivery to work! Still, all sorted now and first impressions are v.good: love the pan roof and LEDs, can see the instruments over the wheel fine: no idea what all the reviews were moaning about. Seats are a bit tight but that is more about my lardy a**e. SatNav/Media system seems a bit clunky but if I can get 6Music and stream from my phone I don't really care.. Drives well and goes quicker than I need so very happy all round.
Rackedon
13 Aug 15#924
When people are giving order dates as "2nd June" etc is that when the admin fee was paid or when papers were sent? I paid my admin fee about a week after the order papers were signed and sent to VS.
xoddsockthiefx to Rackedon
13 Aug 151#925
order is not dependant on when you pay administration fee. VS chased me about a week later. I put order in on 2nd June.
pantheruncia
13 Aug 151#923
Just had car delivered this morning. text me an hour before. Lady showed up handed over keys, signed after noting down one or two tiny blemishes on the gloss black and off she walked to the train station... very strange but love the new car
SergioGeorgini
13 Aug 15#914
For anyone who has had theirs delivered already - did the transporter guy call you an hour before delivery?
xoddsockthiefx to SergioGeorgini
13 Aug 15#922
I got a call 15 mins before!!
aliturner1303
13 Aug 15#921
Does anyone have an email address for Evans Halshaw? Ideally Alan Magill. I sent off my documents last Tuesday, and haven't had any response since. Would be nice to be notified they have received it.
davver99
13 Aug 15#920
i ordered using rvl leasing last update on 11th was we will get docs out to you when the car gets to us.
hero9989
13 Aug 151#917
Have paid the initial payment and the finance docs should be arriving with Evans Halshaw today! Fingers crossed everything is okay with what I sent...
saycey to hero9989
13 Aug 151#919
Sent mine recorded delivery and they have been received. Just hoping to get an update about it today.
Have you emailed them for an update?
davver99
13 Aug 15#918
thanks
still no update on mine ;( was told it will be in the uk this week for definite not holding much hope
davver99
13 Aug 15#915
anyone had there car delivered into the uk this week that was due originally due w/c 03/08 ?
saycey to davver99
13 Aug 15#916
Yes. I had my documents through Tuesday and sent them off yesterday next day delivery.
Bertos
12 Aug 15#910
Is this steering wheel adjustable? I could not find a lever or catch anywhere...
Bikerdanny to Bertos
12 Aug 15#911
Yep fully adjustable for tilt and reach, multiple reviews have shown it.
xoddsockthiefx to Bertos
12 Aug 15#912
underneath the left hand side.
soldierboy001 to Bertos
13 Aug 15#913
Try the hand book.
Bikerdanny
12 Aug 151#909
:/ if your car tomorrow doesn't have the correct reg then you'll have to private message me as its probably mine lol.
hero9989
12 Aug 15#908
Entertainment retailer with really bad customer service
xoddsockthiefx
12 Aug 153#905
Evans Halshaw = zavvi of the car world.
EvilGazebo to xoddsockthiefx
12 Aug 15#906
Ooooohhhh. Cuss. :smile:
soldierboy001 to xoddsockthiefx
12 Aug 15#907
What's zavvi/
EvilGazebo
12 Aug 15#904
Hmmm....and given that I was told at one stage that my car wouldn't be here until early-mid September but I'm getting it delivered tomorrow, I suspect I might be a beneficiary of the cock-up.
Although as I ordered at the same time as others I don't feel too guilty :smiley:
Bikerdanny
12 Aug 15#903
Well they haven't mentioned that my documents are wrong, but I'll email then and make sure they are for the right car. Yep it does seam to be Evans that's the issue.
hero9989
12 Aug 15#902
Wow, that's awful... Are you going to have to send off new documents when it arrives in stock?
Evans Halshaw do seem to be the source of most of the cock ups in all this. Pretty awful for one of the biggest car dealers in the country...
Bikerdanny
12 Aug 15#901
Similar story here, got my documents last monday and sent them off ASAP whilst being a wee bit excited that it was close to being delivered.
After lots of chasing up, I finally got a reply that Evans helshaw messed up and instead of my car being in the UK / group stock like they said it was, its still in a bloody french port and the earliest it will be delivered is end of the month :/
xoddsockthiefx
12 Aug 15#900
correct. keep it. fill out when driver delivers. get them to sign it then you scan it an email to your contact at NVS or VS
xoddsockthiefx
12 Aug 15#899
**aviva
xoddsockthiefx
12 Aug 15#898
I'm with a I a too. premium doesn't change either way.
copple
12 Aug 15#895
I was told by Tesco unless I was the registered keeper they could not insure me. As far a they are concerned the registered keeper was the person responsible for the vehicle. The vehicle is our responsibility from day of delivery until day of return. This is standard procedure for lease vehicles according to Tesco but must admit has been raising some concerns.
EvilGazebo to copple
12 Aug 15#897
Jody @NVS has confirmed that previous email was wrong i.e. Peugeot Contract Hire will be both owner and registered keeper as others have said.
Luckily it makes no odds with my new insurer (Aviva) but as copple points out it may well do for others - best to check I would suggest.
hero9989
12 Aug 15#896
Thanks. And we don't fill in the delivery note (not going to tell them I received the car okay when I haven't received it!
xoddsockthiefx
12 Aug 15#892
also lots of confusion on registered keeper. I have just received an email from Donna at VS saying Peugeot CH are both owner and keeper.
EvilGazebo to xoddsockthiefx
12 Aug 15#894
Contradicting what NVS told me and what I told my new insurer :rolleyes
Good news - agree the old ones looked well dodgy. But for £166/mth I was happy to grin and bear it.......
Bertos
12 Aug 15#893
Cheers. All was good. Did list one gripe just for the sake of it - some of the trim around the front wheel arches aren't completely flush (as its in two pieces) so put that down just incase it gets worse in future.
Other than that. Happy with the car.
The interior door handles are different in this facelift model, no longer a red to black fade, but now a solid black handle with a red line along the middle. Looks much better.
hero9989
12 Aug 15#890
Just received my Finance documents!! 13 pages?!?! Which do I have to fill in and return? Reading the guide but want to double check. Don't want this sending back to me!
- page 3 and 4 (page 3 signed and dated)
- bank mandate signed and dated (this is the "instruction to your bank or building society..." page?)
The guide says to send a scan of my driving license and bank statement/utility bill. I already sent this when I applied for finance. Do I have to send it again?
xoddsockthiefx to hero9989
12 Aug 15#891
I believe you need to send the pages you sign back. however i sent all the agreement stuff back incase. scan your photo card but double the size. (for signature) has to be same on finance docs.
gwernham
12 Aug 152#889
Just had out car delivered. Very nice. I was told that my one was being driven up to Scotland, but it was dropped off the back of a transporter . 1.4 miles on the clock. Already paired my phone. Can't for the drive home!
Bertos
12 Aug 15#887
Just taking delivery. Any tips on what to look out for, inspection-wise before signing the papers?
karlie88 to Bertos
12 Aug 151#888
Check paintwork, scuffs on alloys, spare tyre, odometer (delivery mileage not part of your allowance), car's interior etc.
Make sure the following are present: locking wheel nuts, owner's manual, service booklet, 2 keys etc.
jimeruff
12 Aug 15#886
Yes, I'm aware Evans Halshaw are providing the cars. It's just frustrating and like others, I am having to regularly chase NVS. I don't think I've been updated once, without a chaser email.
xoddsockthiefx
12 Aug 151#885
you realise it's Evans Halshaw (dealer) that is suppling the cars. cars are at dealers for 9ver a week before the dealer does paperwork to figure out who's car is who's. NVS are just the middle man and have no control over time scale or anything. it is unfortunate but please be patient. it is worth it.
jimeruff
12 Aug 15#884
Also - To clarify, PEUGEOT are the registered owner and YOU are the registered keeper. THe email from NVS below confirms this:
"Good Afternoon,
Once again thank you for choosing to place your vehicle order through National Vehicle Solutions.
I can confirm that your order has been secured with Evans Halshaw.
Your contact up until now will have been with either Simon or Kelly, however I’ll be your contact from this point onwards.
Whether you’re a long term car leasing customer or a first time novice, we aim to make the process as straight forward and uncomplicated as possible.
With this particular finance company the contracts cannot be raised until we can populate the agreement with a registration mark, rest assured that we’ll e-mail your finance agreement once the vehicle arrives into stock; after the dealer has allocated a registration mark. Whilst it is possible to place a private plate on your vehicle, it is not possible to select a preferred registration mark due to the volume that this dealer group handles. Should you wish to have your private plate on your vehicle, then please get in touch so that we accommodate this request?
Peugeot Contract Hire is the registered owner of the vehicle, you will be listed on their database as the keeper for the 18 month contract. Your insurance company will require this information once we confirm the delivery with you, further down the process.
Don’t worry if you don’t hear from me until I send you your finance contracts, this just means that the process is running smoothly, however should you wish to contact me, then my contact details are below and I’ll welcome your contact.
Kind Regards"
jimeruff
12 Aug 15#883
Count yourselves lucky - I got an email from NVS last week with the finance docs, so I completed and returned the same day. All excited, I chased NVS two days later only to be told:
"Sorry unfortunately the dealership have just contacted me and said that there has been a mistake. These documents are for another vehicle and not yours. When your vehicle is in stock the dealership will send over a different set of documents for the correct car. They have apologised about this."
I was given a reg number and everything! :disappointed: I explained to NVS that I was disappointed about this and their response was "mistakes do happen". They really need to up their customer services game.
A week later, I am fed the same old story from NVS:
"Hello,
I am waiting for the dealership to confirm with me what vehicles have arrived.
Should you require any further information, then please do not hesitate to contact me."
I've pretty much given up. Meh.
danny2156
11 Aug 15#882
when you went to admiral were they ok with Peugeot being the the owner and keeper. I'm worried it will be s nightmare to explain.
karlie88
11 Aug 151#881
That little parking space/driveway looks like the perfect size for the 208.
zermattbusby
11 Aug 15#880
New I should have given it some croppage...
The photo not the lawn :smiley:
aliturner1303
11 Aug 15#879
Can anyone who has had a listen tell me what the stereo is like? Pics look awesome btw, I'm very excited, my car is due to be registered on Friday so hopefully delivery email is imminent!
zermattbusby
11 Aug 15#878
How the flip do you view these pics?
SergioGeorgini
11 Aug 15#876
So have people put Peugeot Contract Hire as the registered owner and registered keeper on their insurance docs, or just the owner?
karlie88 to SergioGeorgini
11 Aug 15#877
Both owner and keeper are Peug CH.
Bikerdanny
11 Aug 15#874
Odd sock thief and zerrmattbusby very nice cars :b when did you order your cars/pay the admin fee ? was it through NVS ? Thanks Dan.
xoddsockthiefx to Bikerdanny
11 Aug 151#875
ordered 2nd June. paid admin fee 4 or 5 days later. got docs last Monday. posted them last Tuesday. got a call on Wednesday to arrange delivery for today. I did it through VS.
Bikerdanny
11 Aug 15#873
I would personally enjoy your holiday, I received mine last monday and I rushed around like a headless chicken before my shift at work in order to print and send off the documents via 24hr delivery, I was mega excited thinking not long now. I haven't even received a delivery email (lots others did through) and I've chased them up twice to no avail, needless to say I feel disheartened again.
xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#872
I doubt anyone will be replacing them from wear. they last ages. reviews suggest they are 1 of the best tyres on the market.
another bonus about the car is the spare wheel is an alloy too. :smile:
happy days.
xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#871
hahahaha
saycey
11 Aug 15#870
Had my documentation through today. Gonna cut my holiday short and drive home to get it sorted :smiley: Priorities :stuck_out_tongue:
zermattbusby
11 Aug 151#869
Pilot Exalto's
karlie88
11 Aug 15#868
Are the tyres Pilot Super Sports?
zermattbusby
11 Aug 154#862
Hang on in there Guys, it's well worth the wait!
davver99 to zermattbusby
11 Aug 152#863
i hate you :smiley::stuck_out_tongue:
davver99 to zermattbusby
11 Aug 151#864
looking at these pics im glad i ordered the white looks nice
karlie88 to zermattbusby
11 Aug 151#865
Nice lawn.
:laughing:
BarryRiley to zermattbusby
11 Aug 15#867
The car's a Peugeot, but that is one damn fine lawn!
traileruk
11 Aug 15#866
VS have ignored every email I've sent since Friday now after being told for weeks that it would arrive w/c 03/08. Definitely getting the feeling they've f'd up predictions/allocations and are just trying to bury their head in the sand until they can give me some actual information.
xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#861
Michelin tyres. I think alloys are diamond cut. but I can't be sure. haven't tried the satnav yet.
xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 151#860
1st impressions I would say so.
xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#856
also you can't see but it has red calipers.
karlie88 to xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#858
Great pics! Completely know what you mean with pictures not doing any justice...
Could I ask (or anyone else that knows), what tyres come fitted? Are the alloys diamond cut? And what's the sat nav like?
Ta.
hero9989 to xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 153#859
AHHHHHHHGGGG. It's so pretty.... The important question - does it drive as well as it does on paper?
Mr Bananas
11 Aug 152#857
Oh , Keep your Magic Tree - I'm gonna overdose on that new car smell - those leather heated seats are gonna be toasty .....
xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#855
even my pics don't do it justice.
xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 151#854
cheers simplyjimbo
davver99
11 Aug 15#853
i do like those alloys
davver99
11 Aug 15#852
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i want my new car
thanks for pics
xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#848
can someone who is on PC. please report thread and ask for my pics to be posted.
thanks.
(I'm in my phone)
davver99 to xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#851
have done :wink:
davver99
11 Aug 15#850
mine was due w/c 3/8 was told it will be in uk this week no other news yet ;(
magicow
11 Aug 15#849
Order confirmed with NVS 2nd June. First date given was 2nd August then pushed back to 9th August, I got the documents through this morning.
xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#847
I don't see any reason why it's taking so long for mods to put up my pics.
magicow
11 Aug 15#843
Damn it, finally got my documents through and the mileage states 5000 not 10,000.
TRIXXY DIXXY to magicow
11 Aug 15#844
Same happened to me. It's taken them 1 week to get them ammended!
davver99 to magicow
11 Aug 15#846
when was yours due into the uk
xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 153#842
just posted 3 pics. gone to moderation. hopefully up soon
davver99 to xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#845
there not pics of a naked car are they :stuck_out_tongue: come on mods
xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#841
good. not let it go yet but it handles well. rides smooth and comfortable. I just taken pics. how do I post them on here?
xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 153#838
my car was delivered an hour ago. it looks a lot better than any pics I have seen. sounds great. 1st impression is very very good.
saycey to xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#839
What's the drive like? :smiley: still waiting for confirmation if my car was in the latest batch.
davver99 to xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#840
get snapping :smiley::sunglasses:
davver99
11 Aug 15#837
strange why your date is so late as you ordered on the 2nd
i know some have had delays due to options / maybe due to factory shutting ??
CPC85
11 Aug 15#836
Standard white car with no options.
after chasing up the mid July approx date many times, i eventually got a date W/C 31/08 then after finding the contact details fro Evans Halshaw i am now told W/C 14/09..
This just really does not seem fair compared to you guys!! with my deal i am i paid no admin fee as i think its included in the other figures and maybe they have bumped me to the back because of this?
CPC85
11 Aug 15#834
Did anybody else use RVL for this deal.
Im told my car is now not due in until W/C 14th Sept!! after being approved and signed by 2nd June, when some of you already have your cars or getting them next week!
Really dissapointed and starting to regret this deal
davver99 to CPC85
11 Aug 15#835
when was your car due into the uk
did u order an arm rest ect ?
There were some great prices on the 3 series a few weeks ago...is that when you got the deal?
traileruk
11 Aug 151#831
My car was meant to get in the country last week. Got an email from VS on Thursday saying a batch just arrived and he will let me know if one is mine. Not heard anything since. I've had absolutely **** service from VS that I don't think I'll ever use them again. Since ordering this my partner has got a new job so she's getting the 208 and I've just signed up for a 320d M Sport lease (not with VS) which I'm actually more excited about now!
zermattbusby
11 Aug 154#830
Today's the day :sunglasses:
Mr Bananas
11 Aug 151#829
Yep - when I copied in Simon - the docs appeared that day and were emailed out that evening - maybe coincidence - but I did step up the tone of my email , I was close to throwing the toys out of the pram ;0) - so that was 7 days after I got the first docs emailed .
xoddsockthiefx
10 Aug 152#816
my car is being delivered tomorrow.
I made my 1st payment via bank transfer after a delivery date was confirmed.
can't wait.
anyone want to put any pics up?
Bikerdanny to xoddsockthiefx
10 Aug 15#818
Woo bet your excited ! did you receive your documents monday the 3rd like most others ? when did they send you the delivery email ?
davver99 to xoddsockthiefx
10 Aug 15#819
Yes if you can
Does it feel like Xmas eve
Mr Bananas to xoddsockthiefx
11 Aug 15#828
That's how I interpreted the process - confirmation of delivery date , then I'll give them the carrot !
Mr Bananas
11 Aug 151#827
Once again I'm a little confused - the accompanying procedure states at the bottom that card payments are not accepted - the deposit payment must be made by BACS transfer ( sent/initiated from my end) before the car is received ?
And to think that I payed NVS £199 to do all this for me , to date all they have done is forward my application form to Peugoet Fleet and then forwarded the contract back to me to sign - Dick Turpin would be impressed !
Bikerdanny
10 Aug 15#826
Ha I know them feels bro, I'm a huge petrol head who is currently lumared with a Aygo and all my mates have hot hatches now so I'm definitely feeling left out. I feel sorry for you man as you were one of the first to order and they have completely messed you around.
hero9989
10 Aug 151#825
Mine's been exactly the same! When I first saw the deal I proudly announced it to everyone saying I'm going to go for it. Was talking about it for almost a month and then every time they mention it, ugh... So difficult to not go crazy! lol
Bikerdanny
10 Aug 15#824
Thanks man, I hope you all enjoy your new cars, hopefully I'll have a delivery email before the end of the week. I just need to be more patient, the last month has sailed by in a blink of a eye but these last days have dragged ha, really doesn't help the fact every single co-worker and friend asks " when are you getting it " virtually everyday.
Mr Bananas
10 Aug 15#802
So finally after the daily email pestering Jody and finally copying in Simon explaining that the mid July delivery date was now slipping to mid August because the Peugeot Fleet admin is dyslexic, I have received the amended docs this evening at 17:15 - they were at the post office and sent First Class Signed For by 17:25 - finally back on track -
Quick question fellow leasers - When does the initial rental payment need to be sent ( it states before delivery) ? I'm inclined to wait until they can confirm receipt of my docs and confirm a delivery date but i don't want to hold up this process any further. !
TRIXXYDIXXY to Mr Bananas
10 Aug 152#823
Nice one mate. I'm still waiting for them to resend out my documents after they put 5000 miles instead of 10000 in the contract.
I've been emailing Jody every other day but she said I just have to wait and there's nothing more they can do. Did you say that you sent a copy of your email to Simon too?
I'm just annoyed I'm getting delayed because of a mistake in the paperwork that wasn't my fault.
gwernham
10 Aug 153#822
Bikerdanny, I am sorry you don't yet know about your delivery slot, as it was you that posted this deal in the first place. I hope you hear soon about your one!
xoddsockthiefx
10 Aug 15#821
not really. I drive flash cars everyday for my job. so it's kinda ruined the excitement (like christmas) but I'm pretty sure once it arrives I will be like a kid on Christmas morning.
xoddsockthiefx
10 Aug 151#820
I got docs Monday. sent them Tuesday. got a phone call Wednesday from Donna (VS) to arrange delivery.
I know it's really immature but I gonna say it anyway.
two more sleeps before the car gets delivered.
:-)
Bikerdanny to gwernham
10 Aug 15#815
I'm trying not to sound like a spoilt child, but it seams bloody everyone else is getting their car delivered this week and despite me sending my documents last monday via next day delivery I have had no delivery email at all. I've message Jody twice now FFS :/
lukefez
10 Aug 15#814
Yea mine was 3+17 paid the dealer the 3 months about a week before delivery. Evan halshaw
Mr Bananas
10 Aug 15#811
Thanks Lukefez/Karlee88 - I have went for the 3 & 17 payment - so there is an initial payment of approx £449, so wondering if this is taken by card payment and the remainder via Direct Debit.
hero9989 to Mr Bananas
10 Aug 151#812
The first payment is definitely by card. I asked Simon :smiley:. Mine's a 6+17
lukefez
10 Aug 15#810
No Felt it go in tyre when straight down.
lukefez
10 Aug 15#808
Really nice apart from the punture 1st day lol
karlie88 to lukefez
10 Aug 15#809
Talk about bad luck! :laughing:
Nail? Could it have been delivered like that?
lukefez
10 Aug 15#806
Not sure paid mine via debit card
zermattbusby to lukefez
10 Aug 15#807
How are you enjoying the car mate?
lukefez
10 Aug 15#804
1st rental payment is taken via debit card. The rest of payments 17 of them are direct debit.
karlie88 to lukefez
10 Aug 15#805
Really? Never come across that on a car lease unless there are problems collecting the initial payment. Thanks for clarifying though. :smiley:
Do you know if they'll charge a fee for credit card payments?
karlie88
10 Aug 15#803
Rental payments are not 'sent' as such. They're collected via Direct Debits from your current account on/around the delivery date of your vehicle. :smiley:
karlie88
10 Aug 151#801
£500 more and 7,500 less miles over the term.
Unfortunately, I don't think we're going to see such a great offer anytime soon.
Having said that, the Audi S8 lease offer was a scorcher of a deal.
hero9989
10 Aug 151#800
Tell me about it. So relieved that it's back on track. Even if it takes another couple of weeks now, at least I know that something is happening :smiley:
You're right, Simon didn't mention it, I was just on the site and noticed it and did some very quick (and bad) maths. Still a good price I'd say. £500 more than the previous price but I still likely would have bitten for this car at that price.
zermattbusby
10 Aug 151#799
Just spoke with Peugeot Contract Hire.
Can confirm 'they' are both the Owner and Registered Keeper
Hope that helps
BigD21
6 Aug 15#732
Mines due to be delivered today but no call/details of when/how/where. Mind you that doesn't surprise me given the complete shambles thus far!
Bikerdanny to BigD21
10 Aug 15#798
Hey bigD, when did you get your documents sent through ? Was it the the Monday like everyone else and you got your car Thursday ?
hero9989
10 Aug 15#795
Finally got a response from NVS! (Simon rang my mobile)
Something to do with them thinking I ordered 2 cars? Even though only one car had been ordered - two different dealers claimed ownership of it. NVS thought it was going to one dealer, but the other dealer already had it. I don't fully understand it but hey.
The finance docs should be written up within the next couple of days and delivery can be arranged after that.
Bit annoying that the car had been in stock at Evans Halshaw for a couple of weeks before they figured this out, but hey, at least I know that something is happening.
Also interesting to note, The deal is back on! (Sort of) Same overall cost but with a bigger initial outlet and smaller monthly payments. Not sure if this can be adjusted but yeah. Good for anyone that missed the deal!
Bikerdanny to hero9989
10 Aug 151#796
Really great to hear your car has finally been found ! What a f&£k up that was.
zermattbusby to hero9989
10 Aug 15#797
Is this something Simon mentioned? Still showing the increased amount on the website (~ 3630 plus fee)
nrps1
10 Aug 15#794
Crazy eh, nearly got screwed because of lack of training! For me my current car and this new one are miles cheaper with admiral so I'm happy again. 13yrs protected no claims certainly goes a long way mind
EvilGazebo
10 Aug 15#793
Called them again and all now fine once signed off by a manager so thanks. Not sure it will be the best quote but good to have a default option cheers.
saycey
9 Aug 15#791
Hastings have give me the best quote so far. Car is due in the country this weekend so hope it hasn't been delayed again...
nrps1 to saycey
10 Aug 15#792
Well I chose to add the arm rest which has apparently thrown everything out the window, they said there's problems with that option and no idea on build date, maybe September. Can't cancel that part now so stuck
nrps1
9 Aug 15#790
Good luck!
deanyboy
9 Aug 15#789
Aviva have been the best quote so far for me, Admiral were rubbish tbh.
EvilGazebo
9 Aug 15#788
From Admiral when I called to get a quote for upgrading my insurance! FFS. I will call them again.
traileruk
9 Aug 15#787
I was told by Carl at VS that Admiral are well known for offering good value insurance for lease vehicles.
nrps1
9 Aug 15#786
Oh damn, really? I was going for them as have current car insured with them and due in a couple days, and was hoping to just upgrade it to the new car when it arrives (been told some time in Sept!). They gave me by far the best quote for both cars! You positive this info is correct?
EDIT - Guys, I just called Admiral and they said they have no issue insuring Contract Hire cars, so not sure where you got this from mate?
karlie88
8 Aug 15#785
Does it not say who the registered keeper is in the finance docs? Anyone who's signed able to shed any light?
With a lease or contract hire, you're usually not the registered the keeper. There should be a clause in the T&Cs re: speeding tickets, parking fines etc. which would give you a clue as to who the registered keeper is. If Peugeot pays the fine, then that indicates that they're the registered keeper. You usually get slapped with an admin fee too.
zermattbusby
8 Aug 15#784
Yet when I spoke to the Fleet manager she said put down PCH as both the owner and registered keeper
Wonder if it makes any difference being Contract Hire as opposed to Personal Lease?
I'll give PCH a call Monday morning to confirm
deanyboy
7 Aug 15#783
Well it's their problem for the next 2 1/2 weeks. Tbh I have it in writing from Jody that they will not take the first payment until 1 calendar month after delivery so as long as I'm not loosing contracted time then I am fine.
EvilGazebo
7 Aug 15#782
Not according to NVS: PCH will be the owner and I will be the registered keeper.
Interestingly my insurer (Admiral) told me today that they could not insure me for the 208 as they are not licensed for Contract Hire. Weird. So I am going to have to cancel and find a new insurer.
xoddsockthiefx
7 Aug 15#778
quick question. registered keeper is name on V5. that won't be mine name.?? so same as owner as in Peugeot.
zermattbusby to xoddsockthiefx
7 Aug 151#781
Peugeot Contract Hire is both the owner and registered keeper
deanyboy
7 Aug 15#779
I have got to have mine delivered at the end of August as they couldn't/wouldn't change the delivery date from 12th to 11th meaning I would be on holiday.
I suppose it makes more financial sense but sooooo wanted to have a little play with it beforehand!
soldierboy001 to deanyboy
7 Aug 15#780
May be they can't get it a day earlier and do the necessary, no financial sense involved. No dealer likes to have a car on their property longer than necessary because they have a responsibility to it, and there are so many ways the car can get damaged that they would have to put right before releasing it to the new owner. You asked they said no, go on holiday a day later.
davver99
7 Aug 15#777
Prepare for next week to drag :disappointed:
lutherinlondon
7 Aug 15#776
I've just been told the same vy VS; next ship out has both mine and my brothers on it.
Mr Bananas
7 Aug 153#775
You make a very valid point Karlee88 as this is my first lease - I had read the fine print but not processed the key point in that clause - I'm not the owner - just the registered keeper - I have now got a quote from Gap insurance 123 ( thanks to Zermattbusby) for that info which has came in at £63 for £5k cover - 2 yrs ... Once again thanks for the advice
davver99
7 Aug 15#774
not had docs yet but told car is in Zeebrugge. It will be over the water next week
davver99
7 Aug 15#772
my car was due into the uk week com 3/08 currently still in Zeebrugge
Bikerdanny to davver99
7 Aug 15#773
Have you been sent the documents yet ? It seams normal for the car to be 2/4 weeks behind schedule at the least.
zermattbusby
7 Aug 152#771
Car value - £20.000
Claim limit - £5000.00
Length of cover - 2 years
£63.00
gapinsurance123
karlie88
7 Aug 151#770
@ Mr Bananas
You mentioned Churchill and Privilege providing a new replacement car...
...this is what Churchill's/Privilege's policy is:
So for a lease car - you would not get a replacement.
Mr Bananas
7 Aug 15#766
I'm up in Scotland and 46 years young with 9+ Protected NCD - the quotes are from several insurance companies around the £185 with £50 Vountary Excess , the key point I'm making is the New car replacement cover - this is only available on certain insurances which will provide a replacment car irrespective of depreciation within the first 12 months which would negate the need for GAP insurance however you aren't extended the option on next years insurance . I'm changing from a 1.3 CDTI Corsa which was £93 fully comp so nearly doubling my insurance premium but hopefully the car will arrived before I have a need to avail of the Heated Leatehr Seats !
karlie88 to Mr Bananas
7 Aug 151#769
Just be careful with the new car replacement clause...a lot of insurance companies state that you have to be the owner for this to be applicable. (And don't take a telephone advisor's word - I'd check the T&Cs myself).
Mr Bananas
7 Aug 15#768
No Trixxy not yet - ( 5 days and counting) I did get a response from Jody confirming that Evan Halshaw had been notified of their typo error - I don't really thing the NVS have a lot of influence in the process. I'm just hoping that I don't get bounced to the back of the queue
Mr Bananas
7 Aug 15#767
The intial paperwork stated that after getting Credit Approval, that a Car Build Order Number would be emailed out to you within 21 days - that's never materialized ! NVS need to start meeting their contractual obligations for the £199 fee !
£167 for one member, £149 for another, £171 for someone else, £145 (R estate) etc.....feel free to ask them for proof.
Probably cheaper for them with cashback too.
soldierboy001
7 Aug 15#764
I'd like to see proof of that judging by what I read in the media about car insurance and pricing. Perhaps you'd like ask him to post the form on the thread?
karlie88
7 Aug 151#763
Insurance quotes are far more complicated than you think. You need to take into account more than just your no claims discount...
Postcode, non-fault claims, age, where the car is kept overnight, job title, annual mileage, the time of year you apply, etc. All have a significant impact on your quote.
For example, it's usually cheaper to state your car is parked on the road overnight rather than on your driveway or garage.
My friend has a golf r which is 50% more expensive than the 208 gti yet his quote is £160.
To cover 99% of the companies you need to use at least 3 comparison sites and Aviva, Direct Line etc. (which are not on comparison sites).
Mr Bananas
7 Aug 15#759
On the subject of GAP insurance - certain policies (Churchill, Privilege) have a new car policy - wherby if the car is beyond economical repair within the first 12 months , then you receive a replacment new car , So I'd only need GAP insurance for the remaining 6 months - unfortunately GAP insurance is only extended against a NEW car , you can't take it out on a car that is a year old - any advice on this as £90 is almost 50% of my annual car insurance on the Pug ?
soldierboy001 to Mr Bananas
7 Aug 151#762
With an impeccable no claims record and a £450 excess the best I could get on comparison was £241, your post seemed to claim your quote was for about £200, which included new car replacement in 1st 12 months, so would love to know who with.
In any case the cost of GAP is not relevant to your quote as this is relevant to you actually claiming and the difference between the amount you would receive and the cost of replacement. remember GAP does not cover anything else and the cost effect should be looked at in that light.
Like your name bananas.
traileruk
7 Aug 152#761
It's worth mentioning you only need GAP covering 5k for this car. It's not going to differ from an insurance payout more than 5k in 18 months. Don't pay for higher, you're only wasting money.
TRIXXY DIXXY
7 Aug 15#760
I think it's a choice of paying the £90 GAP insurance or taking the risk of not getting it. I'll be paying it for peace of mind.
Did you get your new documents sorted yet? I'm still waiting for them to resend them
aliturner1303
7 Aug 15#758
What is the standard stereo like in this car?
Bikerdanny
6 Aug 15#757
Still no delivery email for me :/ I really hope it gets delivered next week like the rest of you lot !
zermattbusby
6 Aug 15#755
Can anyone please confirm what the excess mileage is?
My docs state 5.83 + 1.17 is that correct (7 pence)
Ta
xoddsockthiefx to zermattbusby
6 Aug 151#756
correct.
lukefez
6 Aug 152#754
Mine came with mats.
Bikerdanny
6 Aug 15#753
Oh a quick one bigD, did your car come with carpet mats ?
Bikerdanny
6 Aug 15#752
I'm Jealous ! Mine was due the same week of yours, sent my docs monday just waiting delivery email now.
EvilGazebo
6 Aug 15#751
It's Evans Halshaw Business Centre. Probably someone phoned up their local branch of Evans Halshaw who would have no reason to have ever heard of NVS
hainsey_
6 Aug 15#750
Evans Halshaw hadn't heard of NVS when I called them earlier. When I asked Simon Venus to send me confirmation of the car being ordered, he replied very rudely to say "I don't need to prove anything".
The estimated delivery date says August. I have been told that my car isn't in the UK until October 7th.
gwernham
6 Aug 151#749
I bought gap insurance last night. £103 for 18 months. £10 cash back via topcashback. http://www.ala.co.uk/
kpj35
6 Aug 15#748
I'm sure I saw an earlier post from someone stating that Evans Halshaw hadn't heard of NVS!
kpj35
6 Aug 15#747
I'm sure I saw an earlier post from someone stating that Evans Halshaw hadn't heard of NVS!
EvilGazebo
6 Aug 15#741
Can someone remind me of the suggested providers of GAP insurance? I know it's been discussed on one of these 2 threads already but they are a bit large now and search doesn't turn up anything
Why would they? NVS are just one of tens if not hundreds of brokers. Remember they are one step removed - Peugeot deal with Evans Halshaw. Evans Halshaw deal with NVS.
It's like asking Sony if they have heard of Ken's Audio Visual :smile:
Re your specific situation, what is the estimated delivery date on the order form you signed?
BigD21
6 Aug 152#744
It looks just like the picture on the first page! Just done 20 miles round some B roads. Sounds nice and goes like the proverbial off the shovel.
BigD21
6 Aug 151#743
W/c 27/07 I think. Was registered 31/07
magicow
6 Aug 151#742
Chased for an update today:
"Your vehicle is now showing due to the UK 09/08. The dealership is also not issuing docs until the vehicles are in stock."
Purchased with NVS, ordered & confirmed 2nd June. The above info is contrary to docs being sent out "up to three weeks before vehicle is in stock".. which makes sense with the quick(?) turn around in proposed delivery after people are returning their documents.
Like many people I have lost faith, really wish I didn't have to chase for updates even if it was just a "nothing new yet" once a week from them. It seems like it maybe is just two people from NVS replying to our queries? I bet they are loving their job with us lot, but £199 admin fee.. my heart bleeds.
hainsey_
6 Aug 15#740
Has anyone had a car delivered from NVS and which dealer supplied it?
Did you have to pay any charge to the dealer before it came?
I have to say I've lost all faith. I phoned Peugeot who didn't seem to know who NVS were either. Definitely something dodgy going on.
BigD21
6 Aug 15#735
Arrived this morning. Very nice!! :sunglasses:
davver99 to BigD21
6 Aug 15#738
get your camera out then :smiley::smiley::smiley:
davver99 to BigD21
6 Aug 15#739
was you car due into the uk week start 27/07 or 03/08
enjoy your car
hainsey_
6 Aug 15#734
I just called Evans Halshaw directly and they said they didn't work with a National Vehicle Solutions and only deliver cars to their direct customers... can anyone shed any light?
hero9989 to hainsey_
6 Aug 15#737
Ah, that reminds me, I did the same and they asked which dealer it was being sent to. Jody at NVS said it was going to Catterick. Evans Halshaw apparently don't even have a dealer there...
EvilGazebo
6 Aug 15#736
NVS yesterday afternoon, no chasing from me.
copple
6 Aug 15#733
I got response via email but replied to confirm date and still no reply. Still not holding out much hope. See what happens. Like you returned next day delivery on Monday.
lukefez
3 Aug 15#682
Was driven to my home address about 10am
Bikerdanny to lukefez
5 Aug 15#731
Abit of a quirky question but did your car come with carpet mats ?
Bikerdanny
5 Aug 15#730
I think your fresh out of luck as in the documents it said about the cancellation charge :/ if you read into it abit more they may be a get out Claus.
copple
5 Aug 151#726
Mine being delivered Thursday 13th. Didn't send the delivery note back either (Not signing for a vehicle I haven't received). Had email to say I must email a scan of it on the delivery day.
Bikerdanny to copple
5 Aug 15#729
I got the same response when I said I wasn't handing the note back, did you get a email or phone call about the delivery date ? I sent my documents Monday via next day delivery so would have thought they would have messaged me today, I'll see how tomorrow goes.
hainsey_
5 Aug 15#728
Hi all... so I was advised at the time by Simon at NVS that it was expected by late July or early August. I had to hand back my company car at the end of June so prepared myself to be car-less for a month. I paid the £200 admin fee and returned my order form on the 9th June.
However, when I chased for updates on the order, the estimated delivery date became later and later, and eventually was confirmed to arrive in the UK 7th October, with delivery to me expected around the 14th. At this point I asked if I could swap my order slot with someone else, or take a stock car, but was told this was not an option.
My company have since introduced a great deal in their car scheme, which I'd like to change to, as I've lost all faith in NVS :disappointed:
Today I advised that I would like to cancel my order and requested that they pay me back my administration fee as they could not provide the car within the one month time frame that was promised
They have come back to say they now may be able to get a stock car (someone else's cancelled order) which matches my very standard spec, and that if I choose to cancel I have to pay £500 as they will be able to deliver the car before the "one month" runs out (which they say is end of September). But it seems so unfair that this option was only given to me when I asked to cancel, and was denied before!
I then asked if I could transfer the contract to my sister as an alternative, at which point they said that the rates had gone up and she'd have to pay more (including a £1,200 deposit!). So I went back to say I don't need the admin fee back, but I cannot and will not pay the £500 cancellation fee. They said they will continue to source a stock car for me until I give firm notice of my cancellation in writing.
I have lost all trust in the company and want to give my notice of cancellation in writing, but am scared that they can forcibly take the £500 or sue me for losses. Another part of me thinks that they are just expecting me to back down and pay it, and probably wouldn't really take legal action if it came to it.
I commute 25 miles each way for work and am now in a position where I will need to buy something very soon to fill the gap, as I've been unexpectedly left without any car, which has caused me a lot of expense and inconvenience. Had they delivered the car when they said they would I wouldn't have cancelled, but now I have no interest in taking the car or having any further dealings with them to be honest.
Does anyone have any ideas? Do you think they can enforce the cancellation fee by law?
Many thanks in advance!
deanyboy
5 Aug 15#727
I have been told I can only get my car delivered on Wednesday 12th which is no good as I am in Cyprus! I asked about 11th and was told that was the earliest they could do! I will be back on the emails to her to find out more!
kpj35
5 Aug 151#725
You're not the only one unfortunately!
Had to spend a lot more on additional presents than I planned for my wife's 40th on Monday, as I had no car to give her
hero9989
5 Aug 152#724
Still nothing... Like most others, I placed my order on June 2nd.
I've bought both used and new cars; Used car - I had it within a week of placing my deposit. New cars, even the Seat Mii (which in 2012 was a brand new line of cars so had to be ordered into the country as I had extras and metallic paint) Took 3 weeks from placing my deposit. I have no idea why it would take 2 months even though it is a new build.
The whole process has put me off leasing cars in the future I think... Simply because I have no idea what's happening and have no control. I generally cycle to work at the moment and have access to a company car if I need to travel any kind of distance but if my circumstances were any different, that probably wouldn't be an option.
Seems like if you were leasing repeatedly, it'd be very easy to either end up paying for 2 cars as you're ordering months before your current contract ends or ending up carless as it arrived too late.
To anyone who does lease often, how do you cope??? :confused:
EvilGazebo
5 Aug 15#719
Thursday 13th for me.
Bikerdanny to EvilGazebo
5 Aug 15#722
When did Jody message you ? Or was it Alan ? And did you have to chase them ? I've not got a delivery email, feeling a wee bit left out.
Bikerdanny to EvilGazebo
5 Aug 15#723
When did Jody message you ? Or was it Alan ? And did you have to chase them ? I've not got a delivery email, feeling a wee bit left out.
Camsh
5 Aug 15#721
Friday 14th for me. I'm working that day so hopefully they'll let a family member accept delivery.
pantheruncia
5 Aug 15#720
confirmed delivery of thursday 13th for myself. enough time to book some holiday
xoddsockthiefx
5 Aug 15#718
mine is being delivered on Tuesday 11th.
gwernham
5 Aug 15#717
I ordered on the 2nd June, delivery to me confirmed on the 12th August. Confirmed car will be driven to my place of work (In Aberdeen), but delivery millage is not counted to the 15k miles allowance. Can't wait!
bootymaster
5 Aug 15#716
Between the 6th and 10th of June...
Bikerdanny
5 Aug 15#714
Any of us that sent out documents in Monday/Tuesday heard anything more ? Or know what the next step is ?
I'm guessing Alan from Peugeot confirms the paperwork is all good to NVS and they arrange delivery from the dealership ?
deanyboy to Bikerdanny
5 Aug 15#715
No mate not heard a thing and worrying as I am on holiday next week!
bootymaster
4 Aug 15#711
Good news that you're all getting sorted, i've not even got a build date yet let alone one for delivery!
zermattbusby to bootymaster
4 Aug 15#712
When did you place the order?
Bikerdanny to bootymaster
4 Aug 15#713
They don't really give you a build date, TBH the first you'll hear about delivery apart from the estimated date they give you initially, is when your documents have been signed.
zermattbusby
4 Aug 15#710
Thanks Karlie
Yes, just the straight forward 18 x 149.00 P/M (1 + 17)
Only went for 5000 MPA as my Passat diesel will do the other 15K lol
karlie88
4 Aug 151#709
So you avoided the admin fee then? Sub £3k over the term?
Nice deal you got there.
zermattbusby
4 Aug 152#708
Been dealing direct with a local main dealer, wasn't easy mind, the first five companies I phoned just laughed at the figures, however after the sixth call and with a little bit of persuading, the deal was done...
zermattbusby
4 Aug 151#705
Just received an email to say my vehicle had arrived at the Dealership today and when would I like to come and pick it up?
They also included a list of 10 number plates to choose from lol
hero9989 to zermattbusby
4 Aug 15#707
Wow - was that with VS or NVS? I want some of that customer service lol
TRIXXY DIXXY
4 Aug 15#702
At least you've been able to post your documents. Because mine had 5000 instead of 10000 miles on them I have to wait for the dealership to request new documents from Peugeot. God knows how long I'm going to be waiting :-(
soldierboy001 to TRIXXY DIXXY
4 Aug 15#703
Why would I know>
Mr Bananas to TRIXXY DIXXY
4 Aug 15#706
I'm in the same boat as they have spelt my surname wrong - let's hope is resolved within 14 days of the cars registatation date or else that will open up another can of worms if the contract is not signed !
xoddsockthiefx
4 Aug 15#704
just spoke to Donna at VS. don't have to send delivery note as lots of people have moaned about it. just have to email a copy to her to forward once car has been delivered.
lutherinlondon
4 Aug 15#700
Any photos anyone?
deanyboy to lutherinlondon
4 Aug 15#701
I don't think anyone has their car yet just the documents.
SergioGeorgini
4 Aug 15#696
So have all you peeps completed and sent off the Vehicle Delivery Note as well as all the other documents? Seems a little odd!
Bikerdanny to SergioGeorgini
4 Aug 15#699
I didn't sent it and emailed her late last night that if they do need it before delivery then I want a email clearly stating that they want me to sign a post car delivery form before me receiving my car.
gwernham
4 Aug 15#697
Yup. I posted my documents last night.
As has been already said "Agree it is totally bogus. But would never stand up if tested so not that fussed." (EvilGazebo), it's just a box ticking operation for them, I don't think it would stand up in court.
soldierboy001 to gwernham
4 Aug 15#698
Contradiction, But you can be the one to test it.
deanyboy
4 Aug 15#695
Yea that's why I emailed Jody as I am concerned that I won't get it in time! They will have to keep it for a while otherwise!
Bikerdanny
4 Aug 15#694
Yeah crossed wire pal, I was on about the delivery date. Your going to be pushing it thin with your holiday :/
deanyboy
4 Aug 151#693
Crossed wires I think, I meant the dealer where you get it from not the date you get the car. Jody did email a reply to a question I sent her about that and she said that it should take about a week to get the car.
Bikerdanny
3 Aug 15#692
That's exactly what I have planned :smiley:
Bikerdanny
3 Aug 15#691
That still says reg date on my paperwork not delivery date.
deanyboy
3 Aug 15#690
It is at the bottom of page 3 - the delivery note page.
Bikerdanny
3 Aug 15#689
I'm throught that said just the registration date e.g when the car is registered for the road.
deanyboy
3 Aug 15#688
It was on the delivery form that we have had to send back in the dealer details section.
I asked Jody about the delivery and she said that it usually takes a week.
EvilGazebo
3 Aug 15#687
Agree it is totally bogus. But would never stand up if tested so not that fussed.
hero9989
3 Aug 15#686
It's around 130 mines from where I live, so I hope they don't drive it from there 0.0
davver99
3 Aug 151#685
Pictures please :smiley:
Bikerdanny
3 Aug 15#684
Still very suspicious as why should you sign a form to say that you have had the car explained and that it had no damage when delivered and what it's delievry milage was before you have received the car.
I'll send her a message, but I want to see what that Alan's response is.
Bikerdanny
3 Aug 15#683
Hmm hopefully they won't reject the rest of the paperwork it says this on the instructions -DELIVERY NOTE – Have customer complete and sign bottom
left hand section – leaving date blank. This will cannot be sent
to Funder till delivery has taken place.
The bit about can't be sent to the funder till delivery has taken place made me keep this form behind.
EvilGazebo
3 Aug 15#681
No, read it again. They want it now - confirmed with NVS.
Rationale is that it takes too long for the delivery drivers to return the forms or some such nonsense. I just did it in the end and sent it with the rest. I've got clear correspondence showing that I was asked to sign sight unseen so I doubt a fast one could be pulled......
karlie88
3 Aug 152#680
First report of a delivery.
:sunglasses:
Love that new car smell...
:laughing:
Enjoy.
I like to 'christen' a hot hatch by taking it on blast on a B road with a full tank of V-Power/Momentum...hope you all do the same.
muckspreader1
3 Aug 15#679
love this little car my friend has one and can't fault it.Well made quick and cheap to run.Something about french hot hatches I love.Had 3 and would defo consider this just a shame renault didn't have that stupid flappy paddle gearbox in the new 220. :sunglasses:
lukefez
3 Aug 15#676
Got mine today
Bikerdanny to lukefez
3 Aug 15#678
Damn you :b did it get delivered on a truck ? hopefully not long for the rest of us now. Congratulations on the new ride :smiley:
Mr Bananas
3 Aug 15#671
Got my docs emailed this morning - there spelt my surname wrong on the docs ( so it's back to Evans Halshaw to get amended) - scheduled for delivery this Friday - looks like it is the updated 208 HP model going by the description ... The over mileage costs have been tweaked from £6.90 to £7.00 but it's a minor point , other than that I'm looking forward to availing of all that extra HP and torque ...
Camsh to Mr Bananas
3 Aug 151#674
How do you know when the delivery is scheduled for?
Bikerdanny to Mr Bananas
3 Aug 15#677
When you say its scheduled for delivery for Friday, have the actually given you a date or are you just going off what the date of first reg on the documents is saying - mine says the 7th aswell.
deanyboy
3 Aug 15#673
My delivery note said that the dealer was Bramall Quicks - Sheffield or Manchester it would seem! I don't know why they haven't used Evans Halshaw in Wakefield as it is about 10mins away from me!
Bikerdanny to deanyboy
3 Aug 15#675
Was that on the delivery form that got included in the document pack ? Or a seprate delivery form ? I'm guessing you get a date after all the documents have been received and okied ?
Mr Bananas
3 Aug 15#672
The exact title is Peugoet 208 GTI Prestige 1.6L THP 208 S&S 3Dr. - most is self explanatory
I think the THP refers to Turbo High Pressure 208 is the HP and S&S is for Stop & Start ( not salt & sauce ;0). This is further supported by my insurance quote increasing from £148 to £186 now that I can provide a Reg number which is strangly recognised by Churchill despite the car not being registered yet. .... I'm actually starting to get a wee bit excited instead of being concerned that I had been relieved of £200 ;0)
Bikerdanny
3 Aug 15#670
Is catterick your local Peugeot dealer ? Or a central one ?
Bikerdanny
3 Aug 15#669
Jody emailed me this morning - first time she has emailed me without me badgering her.
hero9989
3 Aug 15#668
As above - mine is going to Catterick dealership.
Bikerdanny
3 Aug 15#667
Is it just one central dealership they are all going to or local ones for thier PDI ? If a local one I'll pick mine up myself.
Bikerdanny
3 Aug 153#659
Got my documents this morning - thank goodness I checked HUKD's as the NVS email was in my junkbox so i didn't have it pushed to my phones inbox.
After a lot of swearing and sweating with the office printer I managed to do everything and send all the documents to Alan on 24hr delivery. I had to print off a bank statement as I'm paperless delivery now so hopefully they will accept that - It looks identical to the one you get through the door. I also had to relearn my signature as the one the use on your driving licence for checking has changed so much.
All my documents were correct thank goodness - 10k p.a and only 1 month deposit.
Yes I will be booking a day off work when it arrives haha sad I know.
EvilGazebo to Bikerdanny
3 Aug 151#661
Aloso got my docs this morning. Which was a bit of a surprise given I got told early September. Not complaining mind.....
Anyone else bothered by the idea of signing a blank Delivery Note before you've seen the car? NVS say it's only to speed up the process if all is well and can do another one on the day if problems. But never been a fan of signing blank cheques etc
hero9989 to Bikerdanny
3 Aug 15#666
Who did your form come from? Just so I can keep an eye out in my junk email just in case.
I think I'll be taking a half day if mine ever gets delivered. Got to give some time to test it out!
Bikerdanny
3 Aug 15#665
The instructions state to only fill in the delivery form after the car has been delivered but leave the date blank so that's exactly what I'm doing.
As all the stuff on the delivery form mentions stuff about after the car has been delivered so I don't see why/trust them to have it now as they could dismiss any delivery damage claims.
hero9989
3 Aug 151#664
xoddsockthiefx
3 Aug 15#663
got my docs from VS. I have asked the question to them but had no reply. are all these cars with Evans Halsham going to one dealer? if so which one?
magicow
3 Aug 152#662
Happy to see people getting their contracts. I'm like a sad puppy waiting for his owner looking at the my email inbox right now. Had a look in the junk mail and even the promise of free access to local women didn't cheer me up.
TRIXXY DIXXY
3 Aug 151#660
I was told picking the car up from the Dealer is an option if you want the car a bit quicker
Ordered on 2nd June. Just been on the phone to them and the 5000 miles was just a typo mistake. They're going to send me out some updated documents.
deanyboy
3 Aug 151#658
My docs only state the initial 1 month payment so I'm good, going to the post office right now!
My car should have been in the country last week so this seems to be right. I hope delivery doesn't take too long as I am on holiday at the beginning of next week.
davver99
3 Aug 15#657
when were you cars due into the uk ?
those who have had docs today ?
lutherinlondon
3 Aug 15#656
Someone on the other thread mentioned that the docs state 3 month deposit...... you guys ok?
deanyboy
3 Aug 152#655
Get in! Got my documents too! Mine does say 10k miles so do get that checked on first.
TRIXXY DIXXY
3 Aug 15#653
Just got my fianance documents from NVS that I need to sign then post to the dealer. Might see if I can deliver them in person as I'm only 30 minutes away.
Just noticed annual mileage on documents says 5000 not 10000 p.a?
Bikerdanny to TRIXXY DIXXY
3 Aug 151#654
When did you order trixxy ? Good to hear at least someone who ordered from NVS got the finance documents. Keep us updated about the 5k mistake as that is slightly worrying :/
hero9989
2 Aug 15#652
Yup haha.
Chances are it will have been allocated a registration number already if it's in the country. Doesn't help much though. Hopefully this processing thing will sort most of us out and they can tell us where we actually are.
hero9989
1 Aug 15#648
I just saw a tv advert for the new 208 :disappointed:
magicow to hero9989
1 Aug 151#649
Comedy Central?
Bikerdanny to hero9989
1 Aug 15#651
Oh and hero at least you have a reg number, I have nothing apart from NVS that my car should have arrived in the uk last weekend. but that's the same as me saying I should have millions in the bank :b
Bikerdanny
1 Aug 15#650
I got this update yesterday after chasing them again -
Hello,
I have just had a email from the dealership saying that they are going to stat processing the documents for physical cars they have with them in stock over this weekend. I will then be able to determine what vehicles they have and which they don’t so I can update customers.
so basically they don't have a clue where the cars are in the system, not sure if this is NVS or Peugeot causing the update problems. it is a facelifted model so there will be lots of orders for the normal 208 as well as the updated GTI.
hero9989
1 Aug 15#647
Apparently Evans Halshaw can't do anything without knowing which dealer the car is going to. I emailed NVS asking if they can tell me that but I doubt they will. Looks like we'll just be waiting until they decide to do something...
Scubasimmo
1 Aug 151#646
You had any joy yet? I contacted NVS a few days ago as have heard very little since I paid my admin fee! They have informed me that they have not heard off the dealer but would email me, I've not received an email yet. I was originally going to have the car delivered in mid July and then it got delayed and was quoted early August, looks like that's not happening now either . I'm just hoping it won't be pushing September as if I'd have known that I would have give it a miss, good luck with your orders guys!
hero9989
30 Jul 15#645
Not heard much to be honest, this is their last email to me. Which I received on Tuesday.
I'm going to sent an email to evans halshaw now to see if they have a clue what's happening.
soldierboy001
30 Jul 15#644
Always bought my cars and with people saying that the dealers don't know when the cars are arriving, assumed they would be delivered to your nearest dealer.
Which reminds me with all the problems and delays people are having, even though these deals look good, I think I'll stick to buying my cars.
karlie88
30 Jul 151#643
It gets driven to your driveway/place of work, delivered on a low loader or can be picked up from the dealer.
I thought you of all people would know....:wink:
soldierboy001
30 Jul 15#642
Don't you collect it from the dealer?
xoddsockthiefx
30 Jul 15#641
I doubt it will come on a low loader. it will be driven.
deanyboy
29 Jul 15#640
Amen buddy! Already late by about 2 weeks!
Bikerdanny
29 Jul 15#639
Hopefully you'll get it before your holiday, just don't think any of us should hold our breath though until the car is being delivered off the low loader outside tour house.
deanyboy
29 Jul 15#638
I got the same message, see below:
"Hello,
I have chased the dealership up since Monday to let me know which vehicles have arrived into the UK and I have not yet got a response.
I understand that this is getting frustrating for the customers but all I can do is wait for the information, as soon as I have it I will be sure to let customers know.
Should you require any further information, then please do not hesitate to contact me.
Kind Regards
Administrator
J.Gray"
Hopefully I will get the documents to sign ASAP! Getting a bit fed up and worried about missing the car while on holiday at this rate!
Bikerdanny
29 Jul 15#637
After asking about my car I got an email yesterday saying that mine should have arrived in the UK the weekend just gone and that she has messaged the dealer to confirm if it has arrived or not. Any news on yours ?
soldierboy001
28 Jul 15#636
Placate her with a handbag from Oxfam.
kpj35
28 Jul 15#635
I chased them for an update on 3/7 & was told that the dealership had unfortunately confirmed that the delivery into the UK was now going to be mid August! Getting fed up now as gotta get out in the next couple of days to get the Mrs something else!
kpj35
28 Jul 15#633
Oh great! Just what I wanted to hear after chasing NVS up today. Signed the deal expecting to get it in time for my wife's 40th - gonna be more than a month past her birthday, if I ever get it
I did receive an update on Friday which I have been processing today and yesterday, unfortunately your vehicle has been delayed.
'Your vehicle is now showing due to the UK 04/10, The delays have been caused by factory constraints on the engines and the Peugeot factory shut down which last for 3 weeks.
Unfortunately there is not a lot we can do, we will monitor this over the coming weeks'.
CPC85 to kpj35
28 Jul 15#634
That sucks!! did you have any estimated dates before that? i was forwarded email from Peugeot about 10 days ago say mine will be delivered W/C 31/08 but your info concerns me..
IncensedCape
28 Jul 15#632
I chased for an update (again! Terrible service from NVS, they haven't sent me a single update, I've had to chase each time):
Hello,
I have just checked the update we have received and it is now showing that your vehicle is due to arrive into the UK on the 09/08. We were originally told that this date was when vehicles would arrive with dealer but this has been pushed back due to how many vehicles were placed on order.
traileruk
28 Jul 15#631
Mine is also due that week (Week 32) with VS. I'm not holding my breath though!
lukefez
27 Jul 15#629
My dealer got car last Thursday. Got finance docs 5pm that day I signed and returned them same day. Paid 1st 3 months rental to dealer Friday morning got delivery date Friday afternoon.
davver99 to lukefez
27 Jul 15#630
Quick then
Mine is due week starting 3/8 into the uk
lukefez
27 Jul 152#623
Delivery Monday 3 August. Not long to wait
Bikerdanny to lukefez
27 Jul 151#624
Very jealous :b
davver99 to lukefez
27 Jul 15#628
What week was your car due into the UK last week?
hero9989
27 Jul 15#627
I was told it would be a maximum of 1 week for it to be transported from port to dealer (which is fair enough, booking the transport and it to be taken there could take a couple of days depending on where the dealer is based). then 3-5 days for it to have its PDI done and delivery booked.
Somebody is lying. Or just not keeping me updated. It doesn't take 3 weeks for it to be transported to the dealer from port, regardless of where the dealer is based. (It could be based in China and it still shouldn't take 3 weeks...)
hero9989
27 Jul 15#625
3 weeks ago tomorrow I was told it had arrived into the country... Bit annoyed... Still haven't had word it's arrived at the dealer.
Bikerdanny to hero9989
27 Jul 15#626
So do you think it's a case of them lieing/ possibly mistaken about it arriving at the dealer ? Surely it should take 3 weeks from once the dealer has it. Fez's dealer turn around to delivery time seams just over a week long, he's with VS through.
saycey
27 Jul 15#622
I got an update from NVS today.
Bikerdanny
27 Jul 15#621
Any more news on yours hero ?
lukefez
23 Jul 15#614
My vehicle arrived at dealership today just signed and returned finance docs. Should get a delivery date tomorrow.
hero9989 to lukefez
23 Jul 15#615
Awesome, Great news. Almost justifies all 3 posts! lol. Hopefully I'll hear something tomorrow...
gwernham to lukefez
23 Jul 15#616
Where did you lease through?
Bikerdanny to lukefez
23 Jul 15#617
Lucky git ! What colour and when did you order Luke ?
Bikerdanny to lukefez
27 Jul 15#620
Anymore news on delivery date fez ?
lukefez
24 Jul 15#619
scrap that 1St of June not 3rd.
lukefez
24 Jul 151#618
I ordered on the 3rd of june (vehicalsavers). colour white no extras.
lukefez
23 Jul 15#613
My vehicle arrived at dealership today just signed and returned finance docs. Should get a delivery date tomorrow.
lukefez
23 Jul 152#612
My vehicle arrived at dealership today just signed and returned finance docs. Should get a delivery date tomorrow.
Bikerdanny
22 Jul 15#611
If you have a reg number then it might be worth a try !
hero9989
22 Jul 15#610
Yep - NVS don't know what's happening. The dealer are apparently really busy so inquiries are taking longer than they should. Tempted to try and call Peugeot? Not sure.
nrps1
22 Jul 15#609
I got from VS, was told because I've ordered the armrest they have no build date and no idea on when it will be due, there is a problem with this addon order and the factory. I asked if they can just cancel the armrest to speed things up, we shall see!
Bikerdanny
20 Jul 15#608
Hero you got any news regarding your car ? Surely the dealer must have it by now ? Didn't it arrive in the UK around 2 weeks ago ?
IncensedCape
20 Jul 15#607
I'd get in touch, they seem to be giving different advice to everybody!
IncensedCape
20 Jul 15#605
I also have an update, ordered from NVS on the 11th. Standard options in white:
Hello,
The dealership have just advised that they anticipate your vehcile to arrive in stock with the dealership week ending the 09/08. Please note lead times can change pending on logistics and factory constraints.
Once the vehcile is allocated a chassis number and awaiting shipment to the UK I will supply the finance documents. This is usually 3 weeks prior to the vehcile arriving in stock.
hero9989 to IncensedCape
20 Jul 15#606
They told me they can't send the finance documents until it's already in stock at the dealer...
davver99
20 Jul 15#604
i have an update i ordered via another company rvl leasing ordered 04/06/15
just been told car will arrive into the uk w/c 3rd august
bootymaster
16 Jul 15#601
I've had this when i chased it up:
"Hello,
Unfortunately the dealership have not yet received a build date from the factory. He can only estimate but not confirm that it may be built Late August/Early September.
I have checked you order and I realise that you were expecting the vehicle in August however unfortunately we can only give estimated build times at this point and won’t have any further information until it is supplied from the factory."
...super :-\
For info to others wondering, i'm based in the NW, paid my admin fee and ordered on the 6th of June.
Bikerdanny to bootymaster
16 Jul 15#603
Sorry to hear your expecting a late delivery, but thanks for the status update.
burnz360
16 Jul 15#600
so is the 208 gti prestige same as the 30th edition with more spec?
Bikerdanny to burnz360
16 Jul 15#602
The new facelifted 208 Prestige is nearly identical spec wise to the old Prestige apart from it now has the same HP and torque as the 30th edition.
Bikerdanny
15 Jul 15#599
Cheers for the update hero, I was fully convinced it was the 208bhp face lift model but its good to get it confirmed again
hero9989
15 Jul 15#598
Nothing really worth noting... But. This is the most recent reply. (I asked them to confirm which car it was, so I could sort insurance in advance). Definitely the new one with 208bhp.
nrps1
15 Jul 15#597
VS actually told me they shut down production for most of August too, so that must be fact.
davver99
15 Jul 15#596
is it a case of it coming into the uk week ending 02/08 or will any after that be September ?
soldierboy001
15 Jul 15#595
I think it's more a case that our dates are either before or after French industry shuts down for the whole of August......[/quote]
French school holidays started 4th July we already have the campers and caravaners descending on us here in Spain. Could not find by googling Peugeot factory shutdown dates and also could not find any ships heading for Sheerness, so lets hope the French habit is not going to stop the cars coming.
nrps1
14 Jul 15#592
VS told me 'September' likely for mine now
EvilGazebo to nrps1
14 Jul 15#594
So looks like there going for the new 65 plate?[/quote]
I think it's more a case that our dates are either before or after French industry shuts down for the whole of August......
SergioGeorgini
14 Jul 15#591
I might not be reading it right but isn't "last week of July" and "week ending 02/08" the same thing?
saycey to SergioGeorgini
14 Jul 15#593
It is. First time it was an estimate for the last week but now they were given a confirmed date of week ending 02/08 that the car will arrive in the UK. It's nice to have a set date than an estimate though.
So looks like there going for the new 65 plate?
saycey
14 Jul 151#590
I had to chase it up. I usually email them once a week for an update.
saycey
13 Jul 15#588
Update on my car. It's now due to enter the UK week ending 02/08.
Bikerdanny to saycey
14 Jul 15#589
I've been quoted last week of July car enter's the uk like your original ETA, did you have to ask them for a update again ? Or did they just message you mentioning its going to be later than expected ?
zermattbusby
11 Jul 152#584
Someone posted these pics today of their new 208 on a French forum
Think I'm right in saying this is the new facelift GTI (30th)
First actual real life photos think I've seen
Looks stunning!
davver99 to zermattbusby
12 Jul 15#587
not a fan of the 30th wheel arches
Bikerdanny
12 Jul 15#586
Cheers for the update hero, and yeah that's a stunning colour I was just to much of a tight ass and I actually do like the white ones.
I believe that the 30th edition that the PICs are of - the alloys and the black wheel arch plastics are the give away.
hero9989
11 Jul 15#585
Haven't heard anything after them confirming it had arrived in the country and giving the registration number. I checked the registration they gave me on parkers.co.uk and it's just come up with "Registration not found. Please check and try again." So it hasn't been fully registered yet, they've just reserved the number. They said once it's arrived at the dealer, they have some paperwork to do, then the finance documents will be sent to me for me to sign and send back. Then they'll arrange delivery. They estimated about 2 weeks from arriving in the country so really I should receive it by next weekend?
That said - they don't seem to like getting in contact of their own accord. I'll leave it until Monday Afternoon and I'll email them again asking for an update...
That does look really nice... The best part is... That's the same colour I'm getting! :smile:
Bikerdanny
11 Jul 15#583
When you expecting your car to arriveat your door hero ? Have you signed and received the docs ? Cheers
CPC85
10 Jul 15#582
Ive just had confirmation that mine should be delivered w/c 31st August, this is a standard car in white that was ordered on the 3rd June
lutherinlondon
9 Jul 15#580
Received an email from VS today confirming my order is still expected to arrive 2nd week of August
Bikerdanny to lutherinlondon
9 Jul 15#581
NVS say they haven't had a single update off Peugeot regarding my order and they'll request one. Seen as lots of you's have been given dates or weeks when to expect them I don't think this is a good sign for me getting it soon.
hero9989
8 Jul 151#578
We need to find somebody else who didn't order the standard white one. Seems like that may be the pattern...
Bikerdanny to hero9989
8 Jul 15#579
Agreed it would be interesting to see if their is a pattern to do with cars ordered with metallic paint, ATM cars ordered with white paint seam to have random delivery dates and not aligned to what date the car was ordered :/
SergioGeorgini
8 Jul 15#572
My order was placed on 5th June and (after chasing NVS) I was told my car is expected to arrive in the UK the last week in July. From UK Port it usually takes up to 7 days to arrive in stock with the dealership.
Bikerdanny to SergioGeorgini
8 Jul 15#573
What colour did you order Sergio ?
scuba simmo to SergioGeorgini
8 Jul 15#577
That's interesting I ordered and paid first thing in the morning of the 3rd June with NVS and up until Monday when asked was told delivery will be as originally quoted mid July , I chased it up the other day and have now been told my vehicle will be delivered into the UK early August so guessing will be mid August delivery , I ordered standard bianca white with no extras!
karlie88
8 Jul 151#576
Wasn't questioning whether they're right or wrong. I just thought it was a downright rude response.
djbenny1
8 Jul 15#575
He is right, though. I worked in a similar industry which applied the same principles.
Parts generally arrive in batches (enough for a week possibly) a short time before they are needed and kept in stores on site. When the vehicle requiring the part is being built, it will be moved to a rack or other temporary storage right on the production line which I guess is model specific but not variant (ie GTI) specific. It's almost certainly something as simple as a backlog or parts shortage causing the delay.
This is a great deal, hope there's something like this around when I decide to get rid of my Mini Cooper S which I'm still tied into for another 18 months.
SergioGeorgini
8 Jul 15#574
Standard white, with no extras.
magicow
8 Jul 15#571
The plot thickens!
hero9989
8 Jul 15#570
I really don't understand that. I chose mine with metallic paint. Maybe they put mine as a priority because it makes them more money?
EvilGazebo
8 Jul 15#569
The fact that I paid a day earlier and am getting the car a month later is definitely not annoying. Definitely not. :smiley:
saycey
7 Jul 151#568
Paid fees on the 2nd June and it's just the standard with no extras.
Bikerdanny
7 Jul 15#567
Cheers for the info gazebo. I think I'll pop aa fresh message off and see what they say to me.
EvilGazebo
7 Jul 15#566
Bog standard no options in white.
saycey
7 Jul 15#562
I've been told that mine will enter the UK during the last week of July and delivered up to 7 days later.
Bikerdanny to saycey
7 Jul 15#565
Just out of curiosity when did you order/pay ? And did you order the standard colour ? And any options ? Just trying to get a feel of when everyone ordered and when they have been told to expect delivery.
Bikerdanny
7 Jul 15#564
Did you go for the standard colour/standard equipment gazebo ? Just wierd how hero who ordered his on the 2nd is getting his much sooner than you pal.
EvilGazebo
7 Jul 15#563
Just double checked and paid the fee on 1st June.
magicow
7 Jul 15#561
Looks like good news! I too ordered 2nd June so hopefully I'll be getting a similar update soon.. if not then testament to the power of chasing up progress!
Bikerdanny
7 Jul 15#560
When did you order your car gazebo ? Hero ordered his on the 2nd and its already arrived in the uk, I ordered mine on the 3rd so really hoping it's not far behind. I messaged them early last week and they didn't give me a clear answer at all.
CPC85
7 Jul 15#559
Excellent news!! keep us updated please
karlie88
7 Jul 151#558
What a rude response. Duly put on ignore.
soldierboy001
7 Jul 15#557
Nobody got out of bed the wrong side and if you are only guessing it's better to keep you mouth shut than to confirm your lack of knowledge.
Cars are built on the just in time system and the parts arrive according to the required model going down the line whether it's 3 /5 or estate one after another. So a GTI may follow a base model but the parts for each will arrive at the fitting points as each different model passes by, that is in it's simplest form, there are other factors involved.
karlie88
7 Jul 15#556
Someone got out the wrong side of bed this afternoon.
If you do, then please go ahead and enlighten us...more than happy to learn.
EvilGazebo
7 Jul 152#555
Congratulations, can't wait to hear how you find it (grumbles jealously under breath etc :smiley:)
soldierboy001
7 Jul 15#554
You really know nothing about motor vehicle manufacture.
EvilGazebo
7 Jul 15#553
NVS
karlie88
7 Jul 15#552
Great news! Bet you can't wait!
hero9989
7 Jul 152#551
It's definitely happening!
Bikerdanny
7 Jul 15#550
From a manufacturing point of view that does make sense, the assembly line would need some changes/ tooling need its PLC programme swapped over to build the GTI so no point in making them in dribs and drabs.
karlie88
7 Jul 15#549
Well nothing is set in stone yet so perhaps it will be delivered sooner rather than later.
It's all quite complicated and I assume the main problem is sourcing the parts for the car to be built. The factory will want to make the cars in batches and won't start building until ALL GTi components are in stock. I imagine the seats, nav, pan roof etc. are more difficult to get hold of in big numbers.
Bikerdanny
7 Jul 15#548
Oh wise Karlie you did try warning us mear peasants that this would happen ! Naturally I was being naive, but I did have a wee bit of a bad vibe that it would. Really does help the fact I drive a shopping trolley ATM and my friends / family ask me every other day about when is the new car coming ? This just reminds me that it's probably not going to be anytime soon :/
CPC85
7 Jul 15#544
I'm starting to get very concerned with this now and i'm starting to think that this deal may actually have been too good to be true? do you think they are trying to pull the plug on it?
karlie88 to CPC85
7 Jul 15#546
No. This is all normal when it comes to a cheap lease deal posted on HUKD for a hot hatch.
Bikerdanny to CPC85
7 Jul 15#547
It is a fantastic deal but no I don't think they are trying to pull the plug on it. I have a feeling that they will try and spread the orders over a few months that way come 18months time when it's time for them all being handed back they don't have a vast quantity at once to try and shift at auction which would lower the price per car sold due to the vast selection for buyers.
EvilGazebo
7 Jul 15#542
I can deal with (and half expected) the delay. It's the lack of communication that is irritating, whether it is the manufacturer/the dealer/the broker or a combination of all 3....
2nd June. Q: "When's delivery? A:"Mid July"
Reaaaaly try to be patient....
23rd June. Q: "When's delivery? A:"Mid July"
Reaaaaly try to be patient...
7th July, 1 week before nominal delivery date. Q: "When's delivery? A:"Mid September" Aaaargh.
Bikerdanny to EvilGazebo
7 Jul 15#545
Gazebo did you go through NVS ? Or VS ? I really can't wait till September, it'll just completely kill the buzz of getting a new car soon and putting up with my underpowered shopping trolley.
hero9989
7 Jul 15#543
Okay that's worrying.... I'm really not liking the lack of communication. Seems common courtesy for them to email as soon as they know everything, or have a chase date where they will contact us just to let us know they are still working on it. I shouldn't have to chase them up just for them to tell me they don't know anything. I'm going to email them now, hopefully it's good news.
EvilGazebo
7 Jul 15#540
I paid the fee 2nd June and I am now being told delivery into the UK "Early September". Which realistically means Mid September to me at the earliest. Not very impressed as I will now have to pay for an MOT on the old shed, it will fail and I'm then carless for 6+ weeks.......
karlie88 to EvilGazebo
7 Jul 15#541
Thought this was going to happen. Those who ordered at the last minute may see delivery in October now...
This is one of the main problems with leasing. First car you get is less of a problem. It becomes more difficult with your 2nd, 3rd cars etc. It's very difficult to time handing back your old car and taking delivery of your new car.
More often than not, you'll either be without a car for a few weeks (possibly months) or you'll be paying for 2 cars on your driveway for a few weeks. Leasing a 'stock' vehicle makes this a less of a problem, but the great deals tend to be on factory orders.
hero9989
7 Jul 15#539
Nope, they don't seem to like getting in touch..I'll email them this afternoon and check up again. Don't want them getting stressed at me though!
Bikerdanny
6 Jul 15#538
Hero do you know if you car arrived in the UK this weekend ? any further updates ? Cheers
EvilGazebo
3 Jul 15#537
On my current shed of a car the AC has failed completely. Not fun at the moment.....roll on delivery day.......
CPC85
3 Jul 15#535
Great news that we are finally dates some delivery dates! i applied on June 2nd and still dont have a date for mine!!
hero9989 to CPC85
3 Jul 15#536
I had to chase mine up, I assume they will send emails out when they either arrive into the country or at the dealer.
xoddsockthiefx
2 Jul 15#534
I ordered with VS on June 2nd. mine is due in the UK weekending Friday 31st July. delivery week after.
Bikerdanny
2 Jul 15#533
Fantastic news ! I signed the order form and paid the Admin fee on the 3rd so fingers crossed mine won't be far behind. Can't wait as amongst everything else on the car being substantially better than my current one the 208GTI has climate control air conditioning which I'm craving ATM with this heat.
karlie88
2 Jul 151#532
Great news! Pics please when it arrives. :innocent:
nrps1
28 Jun 15#530
Well if you got in then you should be ahead a little, I'm hoping August as we were told, but I guess we'll all find out in a month
hero9989
27 Jun 15#529
This is quite worrying. I'm not one of the ones in limbo but I too have heard nothing. Are Peugeot putting us at the bottom of the list because we got a better deal than most of the others purchasing the new car?
nrps1
27 Jun 151#528
Any of the limbo 50 seen this?
Good Afternoon,
I just thought that I’d drop you a line to advise the latest position; unfortunately we’ve not heard anything back at this stage and to be honest the level of priority somewhat seems to have diminished.
Since the launch of the current rates mid-June, the 208 GTI Prestige seems to be selling well and Peugeot have been happy with its performance, whilst they’ve not gave a decision either way, we worry that whilst the lead time is now extending (October 2015), there is a forthcoming residual review on 1st July, which could see the 208 GTI rates increase, which would mean that if they decided “no” then the current rates may not even be available.
I struggle to understand why they would allow the matter to drag on if the outcome is not positive, however I believe that for the sake of 50 cars; as the vehicle is selling well and the lead time is now in Q4 that their interest is lower than I would like, I genuinely think the outcome will not be a positive one given the lead time, based on the lack of forthcoming information and the fact that we’re chasing with no initiative coming back.
Whilst they’ve not communicated their decision, I wanted you to be aware that the current rates may also be pulled soon, whilst they still provide great value for money?
Assuring you of our best attention at all times
nrps1
25 Jun 15#526
Well, my 14 day grace period has now expired, so tied in with the more expensive one. Bet we hear back tomorrow now giving us the go-ahead lol.
Bikerdanny to nrps1
25 Jun 151#527
Still a fantastic deal pal !
soldierboy001
22 Jun 151#525
The Majority of European Manufacturers close in periods during July/August as they are when their schools break up for summer, the same as we do in the UK.
When I delivered cars before retirement, a bank of cars was produced for RHD UK before this holiday period. This was when cars were less personalised but just L,LS and XL depending on manufacturer. This was good for me because I worked the annual holiday period and had cars to deliver, taking my holidays when prices were cheaper out of school holiday periods.
Today cars are built to your order so you have to wait, and if the holidays delay your delivery date the workers could not care less.
nrps1
22 Jun 15#524
True, and actually it is sept for 65 plate, but surely that would seem slightly silly to close on one of the busiest times of year for them?
soldierboy001
22 Jun 15#523
The French don't have new plate dates and are not dictated by the UK requirements.
nrps1
22 Jun 15#522
When August is the new plate? Doubtful! I hope!
IncensedCape
19 Jun 15#521
I was told August for delivery unfortunately, although I did only confirm my order on 12th June.
zermattbusby
19 Jun 15#520
Yeah hope so, as I think I read somewhere the factory goes on shutdown for three weeks in August
zermattbusby
19 Jun 15#516
I see NVS has put their fee up to £240.00 now.
Has anyone had their build week confirmed yet?
Bikerdanny to zermattbusby
19 Jun 15#519
I was one of the first to apply and order and not got a build date confirmed yet,hopefully there original estimate of July is still okay.
hero9989
19 Jun 15#518
I'm having the same concerns now. I've now found out in my job that there may be a decent amount of travelling to various sites around the country (using probably 3000 miles+) so 5000 miles isn't going to cut it. If the excess mileage charge is still all you have to pay then I should be fine. It'll still be cheaper for me to stick with 5k miles and just pay the extra charge. Not sure if I should bother contacting them or not...
nrps1
19 Jun 15#517
I got the impression from what was said to me that the finance company would re-evaluate my contract and offer me a different one. My wonder was say I'm a year in and looks close to using miles, will they amend for the last 6 months at the higher 10k mileage rate, or even more as I'm essentially being naughty and did more than I should so they have to recoup the lost amount for first 12 monthly payments!
nrps1
18 Jun 15#514
All - can anyone give me some advice with regard to mileage please? I have never leased a car before, VS told me if I look like I am going over the mileage I can speak to them and adjust the contract. Would this end up more expensive in the long run with penalties, or do you think they would be lenient/fair? I've chosen the 5k mile option, and with the £72 per 1k fee, I can go over by 4k before the 10k option is financially more sensible, just thinking I may go driving a lot more once I get this :wink:
Bikerdanny to nrps1
18 Jun 151#515
I'm almost certain that there are no other penalties apart from the additional fee per mile that they state, I've had friends who have leased cars before and informed the lease company that they were going to go over the mileage and they lowered the pence per mile rate :smiley: I don't know who they were with and if others are the same though.
Fahim
17 Jun 15#512
Has anyone heard anything from them? I'm still in that 50 limbo ting
nrps1 to Fahim
18 Jun 15#513
Negative so far :/
traileruk
15 Jun 15#511
Go do your research. I'm not pulling your leg. It's a law, not me just making mickey mouse statements.
zermattbusby
15 Jun 15#510
Wouldn't be so sure...
Sp0oner
15 Jun 15#509
So has anyone gone for the current price at £201.70? Works out at another £630 ish over the 18 months.
zermattbusby
15 Jun 15#507
Not actually sure thats ^ quite legal I hasten to add
traileruk to zermattbusby
15 Jun 15#508
It's legal, but that's the cancellation fee after 14 days and before delivery. VS has a £350 cancellation charge but they don't apply till after the 14 day cool off period.
zermattbusby
15 Jun 15#506
and yet NVS say
SUBJECT TO
I/We hereby agree to accept delivery of the above vehicle, within one month of the requested delivery date, subject to availability and satisfactory completion of finance documentation.
I/We fully understand that the terms and conditions set out below are subject to revision due to either, “National Vehicle Solutions" being unable to obtain the above vehicle at the figure upon which their quotation has been based, or should there be an increase in funding and/or manufacturing price
increase/charges beyond “National Vehicle Solutions " control. I/We shall have the option to cancel in this case and any monies paid will be refunded.
By signing this form you are entering into an Agency Contract (for the supply of services) and a Supply Contract (for the supply of goods). National
Vehicle Solutions will act on your behalf to source the vehicle(s) as described as above. You will not have the right (under Distance Selling Regulations) to cancel the Agency Contract once we have begun to source the vehicle(s).
In the event of me/us canceling this order for any reason, other than stated or failing to take delivery within the specified period I/We shall be liable to pay a cancellation fee of £ 500.00 to “National Vehicle Solutions ". In the event of National Vehicle Solutions “" being unable to obtain the vehicle then "National Vehicle Solutions” will not be responsible for any losses you may have incurred.
For and on behalf of ............................................................................................ Date ..........................
This is a legally binding contract sign only if you wish to be bound to the terms and conditions please note any cancellation of order must be and will only be accepted in writing.
Should you need to discuss this order please call our Customer Services Dept. in the first instance.
soldierboy001
15 Jun 15#505
I think you will find they all have a diff mate.
BarryRiley
15 Jun 15#502
Corsa VXRs are for people with an IQ of <30. Go for the ST
bisto to BarryRiley
15 Jun 15#504
But this one has a diff and goes fast round corners and all that.
I will never need it and will moan about it pulling on my arms, but at least I will know it has it and I can bore people talking about it.
Anyway, I think they are cool :sunglasses:
traileruk
15 Jun 15#503
Yes you will. I'm not trying to be an **** with you but the simple thing to do in these situations is read the T&C's before giving false information to others. Here is what mine say for this lease:
bisto
15 Jun 15#501
I got a mail from Kelly today in response to a mail I sent earlier in the week. I assumed that the deal had gone for me, but she said they were still waiting for clarification for the 'limbo 50'.
I hope they hurry up, I have a test drive in a 64 plate Corsa VXR ClubSport tomorrow and a Focus ST on Friday - need to know soon so I don't go mad trying to make a decision :confused:
nrps1
15 Jun 15#500
VS told me all was 100% returnable from the moment I sent in my signed doc + 14 days actually.
zermattbusby
15 Jun 15#499
Yeah, pay the non refundable doc fee, vehicle is then ordered, then a week or so before the vehicle is ready to be delivered / collected, sign the finance docs, once signed you then have 14 days to cancel.
hero9989
15 Jun 15#498
Okay. My mistake. You won't get the admin fee back though as they've performed a service for that money so they would argue that was a separate payment for a service they fulfilled.
traileruk
15 Jun 15#497
No you won't. Any contract by UK law has to offer a 14 day cancellation in which time you can cancel free of charge. This applies to absolutely everything involving a contract. ISP, energy bills, lease deal.You wont be charged if you cancel ANY contract within 14 days.
Once the finance agreement is in place and you pay your deposit you get a certain amount of time to change your mind. You will lose your admin fee and potentially another small amount (will be written in the agreement) but you can leave the contract.
Sp0oner
15 Jun 15#494
What's the 14 day cancellation guarantee then? I thought once you paid the £199 admin fee that was it done deal? That's why I missed the deal as I needed to try one out first, if I could have cancelled later I would have submitted an application :confused:
Fahim
15 Jun 15#493
Has anyone heard back from them? I'm still waiting
Sp0oner
12 Jun 15#492
Is the VS deal better than the current/this weeks NVS deals then?
Edit: just checked and same prices £184 for 5000 miles etc.
Sp0oner
12 Jun 15#490
No I didn't submit an order as I was reluctant to without getting in one first, my local dealer wasn't getting one in until the beginning of this week so I had to wait for that by which time the deal was pulled.
nrps1 to Sp0oner
12 Jun 15#491
I know exactly what you mean, me too, still unsure without even seeing one in passing! BUT, it occurred to me, 14 days cancellation guarantee etc etc, so I guess in future just go for it and then decide after :wink: I waited a little too late and now limbo, but I've paid the fee and car ordered under the VS more expensive (but still good) deal. They still have some if you want to have at it!
Sp0oner
12 Jun 151#487
No probs, i'm just gutted I didn't get one for £166 a month. I can get for £184 a month with 5000 miles and then pay the difference on ppm but it grates me I could have had it last week for less with double the mileage!
nrps1 to Sp0oner
12 Jun 15#489
You not in the 'limbo 50' then?
Sp0oner
12 Jun 152#485
Nope, it was one of the first things I said to the sales guy, the steering wheel is supposed to be an issue but for me I could see straight past it to the dials, he said it's all fully adjustable anyway both in height and coming out/further in etc.
For someone much shorter than me then yes the position it was in would have obscured their view but if it's fully adjustable I don't see it as an issue.
After we had the test drive he goes I wish they'd give me one of these as a demo car as I think it's the first time he had been out in one - they only got this one in this week. I can say they really are a pleasure to drive.
nrps1 to Sp0oner
12 Jun 15#488
Mind you, at 6'3" you are a giant! lol 5'11" here, although I generally like to 'lay down' when driving so might have an issue!
zermattbusby
12 Jun 15#486
Great mini review Sp0oner, thanks for that
Sp0oner
12 Jun 152#483
Well those that have got it are lucky ******** as i've just been for a test drive from a dealership in the out going model (brand new still with plastic wrappings over the interior as a stock car, not a demo) and it was a superb little car and really wish i'd put my order in now when I had the chance to.
I'm 6'3 and there was masses of leg room and head height, the drivers seat with all the racing seat type side support etc was very very comfortable. The rear seats do fold flat so makes a nice big boot space. The equipment levels are excellent and the 7" touch screen dash is lovely. That panoramic roof is going to be like a convertible when open.
Also the new prestige model comes with the dark grey alloys not the silver alloys the gti comes with, the sales guy showed me on their system. Also they had the 30th anniversary model in the show room and that was even more lovely, shame those aren't on offer!
All i know is if I had one i'd be out driving it all the time, i'm an ex subaru owner and whilst this is no scooby it is still very very enjoyable/fun to drive.
nrps1 to Sp0oner
12 Jun 151#484
Thanks for the great review, I've got one from VS at less great prices but still hanging on with fingers crossed. Did you find the driving position/steering wheel/console an issue? Most reviews seem to slate that..
nrps1
12 Jun 15#482
Yeah, got another email from them stating Peugeot are trying with their IT dept. to add the correct discounted code onto the system so that it is hidden from everyone apart from the 'limbo 50', and they will get back in touch 'soon'...
karlie88
12 Jun 15#481
But looks like they're still being honoured.
Don't think Peug/the dealers will lose much.
£20k list price - cost price likely to be £16k for the dealer though. We give them £3k over the lease. Several hundred GTis go into auctions in 18 months time - dealers will buy them again and THEY WILL set the price on the forecourts - probably around £15k.
Win win really.
zermattbusby
12 Jun 151#478
Something tells me Peugeot FS have made a slight boo boo with the figures here :smiley:
EvilGazebo to zermattbusby
12 Jun 151#479
I think there may be significance in the new "inc VAT" price being the old "inc VAT" price plus VAT :smiley:
karlie88 to zermattbusby
12 Jun 151#480
Yep.
I've got confirmation from NVS, VS and CVL that this was a misprice and a mistake by Peugeot. They essentially uploaded incorrect figures on to the system.
:laughing:
nrps1
11 Jun 15#477
The latest if you haven't seen the email - the 50 in limbo people - our case is with the Director of Sales UK for Peugeot to decide our fate! Also, NVS is now offering the same slightly more expensive deal that VS offered the other day.
nrps1
11 Jun 15#476
Sounds a little risky that, they'd better get the right model!
Yes they are being supplied by evans, however when I emailed kelly from NVS about this she said she didn't know which model exactly was being supplied but it was the one on the PDF that she attached in the email and the PDF was for the facelift 208hp model, also the vehicle specs on the NVS website ( emissions and MPG ) refer to the facelift model.
nrps1
10 Jun 151#474
I don't want to miss out on the other deal even though a bit more expensive. I'll give them till midday tomorrow max! Bet I'll cave, then get accepted for this one after lol
Fahim
10 Jun 15#473
Looks like it's gonna be tomorrow as it's now past 5pm!
deeky
10 Jun 151#472
When you have to explain your jokes then yes, it's time to stop.
Fahim
10 Jun 15#470
Dammit I still haven't received any other email other than the usual 50 applications on limbo email
nrps1 to Fahim
10 Jun 15#471
Hold tight, see my post above, today or tomorrow there will be a decision
bootymaster
10 Jun 15#468
Just got my confirmation email, they must be working through the order list!
hero9989
10 Jun 15#467
Same here, Got the same promo email. Then this. I paid my admin fee last Tuesday.
magicow
10 Jun 15#466
It is the first contact I have had regarding my transaction since I paid the admin fee last week, having said that I did get a promotional email for a Citroen C1 lease.
bootymaster
10 Jun 15#465
Is this the first contact you've had since they took the administration fee off of you? Hopefully, i'll get a similar email this afternoon :smiley:
hero9989
10 Jun 153#464
Just got an email from NVS
Sounds good :smile:
nrps1
10 Jun 15#463
A quick update, I have been accepted on the VS deal, and called NVS who said they expect a decision by close of play today. She was not sure on how it will go but apparently all those that received the email are in consideration and have had their details and payment choices forwarded on for a decision, so her gut feeling was we may well be accepted. She will email today or tomorrow as soon as she hears back.
nrps1
9 Jun 15#462
This is true, but still about the same again cheaper than all other deals, and you can choose 5 or 15k miles, plus you can put the £360 admin fee onto the monthly payments instead if you like.
nrps1
9 Jun 15#460
THE OFFER HAS JUST COME BACK IN WITH VS! Get in touch asap all!
traileruk to nrps1
9 Jun 15#461
£34 more per month than the previous offer of £166
hero9989
9 Jun 15#459
EU law states any product sold has to have a 2 year guarantee.
Either way, For people who got this deal, I can't see there being many things going wrong in the first 18 months and if they are they'd be included in any car warranty so nothing we need to worry about.
nrps1
9 Jun 15#458
I think we need that Frozen song here tbh, Let It Go somethingorother
nrps1
9 Jun 15#457
I'd have thought it is in any car manufacturers best interests to develop parts to last as long as is possible, due to this day and ages information sharing and public image... But of course facelift models and new cars have yet to hit the wild and be abused, so new problems are yet to appear!
ollie87
9 Jun 15#456
Can you give me a source for that please? As I can't find the legal minimum by Googling that relates in any way to motor vehicles.
My point still stands though, it'd cost them a fortune if it went wrong loads in warranty. So there is a huge financial incentive to make the car reliable for at least three years in this case.
steetee
9 Jun 15#455
I got the same. Surely they would be able to tell us if ours is one in limbo, or we have been accepted.
steetee
9 Jun 15#450
Anyone had any joy from NVS? I applied at 5pm on Thursday and have had no word back, and they cannot comment whether I have made the cut off or not.
Thanks
nrps1 to steetee
9 Jun 15#454
I applied 11am Friday, no word aside from 'there's 50 applications in limbo' email.
hero9989
9 Jun 15#453
Because all new cars come with warranty. The legal minimum is 2 years. 1 extra makes them look less stingey. Majority of manufacturers give 5 year+ warranties
ollie87
9 Jun 15#452
Why would any company put a three year warranty on an item that is going to breakdown constantly? That's going to cost them a lot of money.
What a logical fallacy.
kevinsmbuk
9 Jun 15#451
Doesn't mean I want to breakdown in the first place though does it?
karlie88
8 Jun 15#447
Re: misprice. If it's a misprice then it's usually super cheap on one broker's website with the others having the correct price.
I initially saw the deal on CVL (a banned merchant on HUKD), the following day I noticed another 5 brokers list the deal - so at this point I knew it wasn't a misprice. NVS joined in a day later.
nrps1 to karlie88
9 Jun 151#449
Apparently it was entered into the Peugeot lease system incorrectly, maybe they all feed from that?
nrps1
9 Jun 15#448
As far as I am aware it is being honored - I'm not one of the lucky ones (yet)
Bikerdanny
8 Jun 15#446
Ha I do agree the car isn't cheap at 20k, the fiesta st-3 goes for around 20k and feels dated and cheap inside in comparision, plus still misses out on some of the Pug's extras.
Very true about the miss price bit, I was worried that they had listed the deposit for a grand less than it should have been ! - usually these cars require a £1200+ deposit down.
I also very much hope everyone enjoys there 208GTI's no matter what supplier they got them from.
traileruk
8 Jun 15#445
Probably feels quality because it's not exactly a cheap car @ 20k!
I don't believe it's a price "screw up". The messages given by NVS etc regarding them filling their allotted slots makes more sense. Who wouldn't notice something like this last Monday when a bucket load of orders came in at ridiculous prices within Peugeot?
Could also just be cheap advertisement, get a load of people driving in them and making a week long deal of a cheap lease is probably a better and cheaper investment to advertise and get people seeing them. After all, they re-sell them in 18 months so don't even lose anything.
traileruk
8 Jun 15#443
Had my order confirmed by VS as being safe and secured this morning. Also had credit approval at NVS but decided to go with VS.
Bikerdanny to traileruk
8 Jun 15#444
Great to hear :smiley: I'd be gutted if they cancelled my order for whatever reason. I saw the pre-face lift one in person at the weekend and had a sit in it - it feels proper quality and not at all like a cheap car.
nrps1
8 Jun 15#440
Had a call today from a couple lease people re applications I frantically put in, they both said the same thing, this was a big mistake from Peugeot, they accidentally added it to the system for the wrong price and has caused massive issues.... You lot are lucky! One said if he gets cancellations they have to be in the same name to transfer to another, so I suggested Deed Pole....
Bikerdanny to nrps1
8 Jun 15#442
So are you saying that the price for everyone was actually wrong but they are honouring it still ? Or just the price for your application was wrong ? Cheers
nrps1
8 Jun 15#441
Also, spoke with NVS finally just now, they don't know which applications went through in time, which were inputted into the system or not and are awaiting to find out some time today. They will contact all people that applied either way regardless, so she said. My application went in a few hours before cutoff so still a possibility although I doubt it somehow...
Bikerdanny
7 Jun 15#439
Oh I went out in a fiesta ST yesterday - mate was test driving a brand new one, and yeah it felt like it handled nice and I quite liked the noise it made. But then I stopped by a Peugeot dealer and saw inside of a 208GTI and the feel of quality and interior are in a whole different class to the fiesta. Really glad that I went for the pug - the quality and the price :smiley:
Mr Bananas
6 Jun 152#431
Firstly, I would like to thank the op for bringing this deal to the attention of the masses, I have never leased a car before but have weighed up all the pro & cons and have just had my order confirmed - delivery July, a second thanks to the poster who mentioned the same deal with the lower admin fee. ( IMO that is what the ethos of this website is for). A 20k car out of the wrapper with one interim service for £166 /mnth, please show me a comparible lease deal folks :-D
Bikerdanny to Mr Bananas
7 Jun 15#438
To be honest that's what I like about HUKD, its got a communitie feel about it with a lot of people trying to help other people get the best deal and answer any questions /queries that other uses have.
There are some trolls and the anti lease brigade that think everyone should have a battered old Micra as that's the "cheapest" way, but generally its all good.
Shoesize
6 Jun 15#437
Nice.
gary2476
6 Jun 152#436
I completed the Order Form with NVS, paid the fee on Friday afternoon and got an e-mail back straight away saying the car was ordered and that the deal had just ended. Glad I didn't leave it until later to sort out like I was going to do!!!
bisto
6 Jun 15#435
I am in limbo too - not heard back from my application on Thursday evening, so I assume that I didn't get it? I Will pounce on the next one!
If peugeot like how this deal went, then they might put an offer out for the RCZ too? Or an Audi S1?
There have been some cracking deals out for some nice cars in the last year, long may they continue.
bisto
6 Jun 15#434
I am afraid that a sense of humour is not allowed on here, you will have to go I'm afraid :disappointed:
Unlease the dogs of war!
Get it? Unlease, not unleash. shall I stop? :smile:
Shoesize
6 Jun 15#433
No, no, buying USED sandwiches is a fool's game. You want to LEASE a brand NEW, sealed, foil fresh sammich. Smell that freshness, inhale it, take it all in, then at the end of your lunch hour, you give it back. Zero calories, it turns out, so as healthy as air in the long run. Because it actually is air.
Before the lease fans jump down my throat, I'm just having some fun, leasing a car makes sense for a lot of people.
lutherinlondon
6 Jun 15#432
Did you get confirmed today? On a Saturday? I was still awaiting a credit check on Thursday..... No update since.
declannn
6 Jun 15#429
can someone help me. am new to leasing . do i have to tax it ect. and can i put my privete reg on to it? thanks
karlie88 to declannn
6 Jun 15#430
You don't tax the vehicle.
You can put a private plate on.
karlie88
6 Jun 15#428
The deal would have likely been pulled by Peugeot Financing - so I don't think any broker would have the deal now. Some are just slow to update their website. No harm in trying though! And you never know - customer cancellations etc. :wink:
nrps1
6 Jun 15#427
Yeah, assuming as I've not been contacted thats that.
But, I was looking for a 5k miles option so the following may not be suitable to many, with larger fees etc, however:
EDIT - Just had a call from them, the deal was pulled after 25 went through but the website hasn't been updated sniff
karlie88
6 Jun 15#426
NVS and application cut off yesterday
Banner at the top that says:
nrps1
6 Jun 15#425
GAH! Well I've asked for a callback from them anyway, but looks like I'll be sticking with my current car, deals like this don't come about too often right...
hero9989
6 Jun 15#424
That one ended about the same time as this one unfortunately...
nrps1
6 Jun 15#423
I don't seem to see that deal on their site, looks like a lot more and 2yrs etc?
nrps1
6 Jun 15#422
I got my application in about 3hrs before the cutoff time they mentioned, but haven't been approved, I assume that means I've missed out?
markvirgo
5 Jun 15#420
Hi has anyone ordered the black and if so how much extra was it?
ozymandias86 to markvirgo
5 Jun 151#421
I think anything other than the Bianca White was c. £18 + VAT extra per month - didn't think it was worth it in the end!
colloq
5 Jun 152#419
Stupidly missed the deal here, all I can hope now is another amazing deal comes along in the next few weeks! Well done all those that got in their with the orders
Bikerdanny
5 Jun 15#418
The Vehicle savers deal might still be available, same deposit and monthly fee but the admin is £160 more and they won't take any less - myself and may others have tried to no avail.
unreal1ty10
5 Jun 15#416
looks like i missed this deal, anyone know of any similar deals with low deposit?
Pip208 to unreal1ty10
5 Jun 15#417
Me Too :-( #gutted
nrps1
5 Jun 15#415
Lol, I'm from London, and currently have an old 350z :wink:
zermattbusby
5 Jun 15#414
Possibly correct, but look under 'Choose your version' Prestige (S&S)
Then look under 'Know everything about your 208'
Tyres 18''
karlie88
5 Jun 15#413
Ah I see what you mean now - you're looking at the table which says 18" alloys (not 19"). I think that *may* be a typo - if you look further up at the Prestige spec description box it says 17" Carbone onyx black alloy wheel.
karlie88
5 Jun 15#412
Nope - Prestige is definitely 17" alloys. You've got the wrong trim - you're looking at the 208 GTi by Peugeot Sport.
zermattbusby
5 Jun 15#411
They were on the old model
New model 205/40 ZR18
Bikerdanny
5 Jun 15#410
Haha fine choice of car gazebo :b I do enjoy the north/south banter that we have as long as no-one takes it too seriously.
On a serious note I joined 208forum and the first few guys I met were all from my local area - Sheffield / Rotherham.
karlie88
5 Jun 15#409
I thought the tyres are 17"?
Bikerdanny
5 Jun 151#408
I'm so glad I ordered mine :smiley: its fab its the newer version as well. But TBH I hope the wheels are not 19" as I don't want the ride being compromised.
hero9989
5 Jun 153#407
Deal has ended! Very happy I managed to get in before it ended! Can't wait for it to arrive!
Very true! A 4 bedroom house costs the same as a 1/2 bedroom flat down South! Although we're a friendlier bunch, so the reputation of Audi and BMW drivers being cocks was definitely started by angry southerners rushing home, late for their Waitrose home delivery.
EvilGazebo
5 Jun 15#403
I would say more actually. When you can buy a house for sixpence, a flat cap and a loaf of Hovis, you've got more disposible income I guess......
EvilGazebo
5 Jun 15#402
Oi! Southerner here with order in thankyewverymuch! :smile: Don't believe I can be the only one either.....
soldierboy001
5 Jun 15#401
Well when I was up north ( Halifax ) a couple of months ago, there was just as many lunatics in their BMW, Audi and Range Rover as there are down south, all Yorkshire reg..
traileruk
5 Jun 151#400
Well it's all just about willy waving down there isn't it. Up here we are all a bit more sensible with our money.
philblythegill
5 Jun 152#396
Ordered mine with Select Vehicles Limited and have asked for September 1st Delivery date, which should be fine apparently.
I'm in Yorkshire (Leeds, Selby) too. See a pattern developing here...
Bikerdanny to philblythegill
5 Jun 15#399
Us Yorkshire folk know a good deal and a good car when we see one, leave the southern fairys to there generic German saloons that are no longer prestigious :b
nrps1
5 Jun 152#398
Everyone keep their eye on Nov/Dec 16 for a second hand 208, there will be about 400 entering the market!
omfgzbilly
5 Jun 152#397
Here's mine :smiley: Granted I've owned her for a while now... Hope you all enjoy your new toys when they arrive!
bootymaster
5 Jun 15#394
Would be a little irritating if it drags on past August, tax and insurance renewals both at the end of that month!
Bikerdanny to bootymaster
5 Jun 15#395
My insurance is due at the end of June so I was hoping that the original estimate of mid/late June would be true, I've been estimated July now - fingers crossed its not pushed back .
skeggman
5 Jun 15#393
I agree, I thik that the previous owner may not have been as careful as I was. My alarm was that Peugeot (direct customer service and the dealer) seemed to think that my problems were perfectly normal?!?!?
I can't beleive that they would not have quietly applied some improvements to that engine mind you, it has been in circulation for over 5 years now and must be costing their warranty dearly. I know Mini have a retro-fit adaptation to stop the oil burn and a replacement timing chain guide to stop the tensioner issues (Peugeot offered me these as a costly after-market upgrade.....). I'd just want assurance if I was going to lease one, my morning on the side of the M4 was not one I would wish on anyone!
nd1985
5 Jun 15#392
I was told (when buying mine) that the new engines are from July 1st onwards. So unless the deliveries are after this date then it will be the old engine
omfgzbilly
5 Jun 15#391
I'm in Grimsby, not too far away :wink: Owned a 208 for 7 months now, you won't be disappointed :wink:
nrps1
5 Jun 15#388
Phoned to try and chat with someone, rang for 15 minutes before I got bored. Sniff!
soldierboy001 to nrps1
5 Jun 151#390
Short attention compulsion.
barbiegirl
5 Jun 15#387
No it really doesn't. Much more than 240bhp through the front wheels alone can be a bit too much, but a hatchaback with 300 or 400 bhp can be an absolute hoot, trust me ;-)
sparkyIreland
5 Jun 15#386
If anyone ordered one, post up your pic's when you get it :smiley: Seriously considering ordering one for our staff car. That or an Abarth 500
nrps1
5 Jun 15#385
Cripes, you must live in the mountains or be 100! I was impressed with my fully comp protected ncb at £520! (But I do live near Brixton mind!)
soldierboy001
5 Jun 15#384
Best thing you can do with a Punto is to CHIP it.
soldierboy001
5 Jun 15#383
Dealers will only give you the latest delivery time, he will not know the delivery date of your car until he puts in your confirmed order, this will then be given a position in the build program and as they know their build speed this will be pretty accurate and not allowing for outside influences.
As this deal is getting a lot of interest, expect the delivery date to go further back the longer you leave it until interest drops off the boil.
traileruk
5 Jun 151#382
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I am! Work near meadowhell and live out rother valley way.
markvirgo
5 Jun 15#381
I had a 406 a few years ago with no real issues, I did always like the Clio sport
Bikerdanny
5 Jun 15#380
I've been a jap man myself, own a toyota now and had a honda in the past. It's a real shame that they don't try and break into the hot hatch market ( the type r being the exception ) this will be my first french car and hopefully will serve me well over the 18months, I find french cars massively hit and miss in terms of reliability so probably wouldn't own one out of warranty. The french do know how to make fantastic handling hot hatches though !!
bisto
4 Jun 15#379
Yes I thought that too, he has had some more work done to it recently, new camshaft and other bits too I think. And more to come he said - that's what happens when you are 40, single and have no mortgage :smiley:
He has had it for a few years and kept it standard, gone mental in the last 10months!
markvirgo
4 Jun 152#378
Wife's got approved with a date of August which is OK for us. I'm a Honda man :smiley:
nickyjg
4 Jun 15#377
Can someone more knowledgeable offer a little advice, please?
I have owned, and maintain, a big 2007 Citroen C6 Exclusive which have had since 2009, along with a van. Love the C6, but work offshore at the moment
Missus is in process of going for driving test in the next month or two. Have decided on leasing, and trying for something that will both of us can get something out of, in different ways.
This looks excellent. But am tempted by the Golf R estate deal also. Aware of the slightly greater cost, but thoughts on that comparison?
Also, what way does it work in terms of both of us wanting to drive it? Do I just ensure she is added to the insurance after passing test, or are there other hoops to jump through?
I am small business/sole trader, if that opens anything else up. I came to consider this avenue too late to catch the Golf R sole trader deals at the end of 2014!
Any advice appreciated. Thanks!
markvirgo
4 Jun 15#372
When would you have to pay the deposit etc, when you book the car or when it is delivered?
hero9989 to markvirgo
4 Jun 151#375
Admin fee before it's ordered.
If you're paying anything in advance (3+17 profile or 6+17, etc) then you pay that a few days before you take delivery (when they book the transport to get it to your house)
Bikerdanny to markvirgo
4 Jun 151#376
You pay the admin fee £199 straight away, I believe the deposit/first month payment is taken out 2/3 days before delivery. For me they have estimated a july delivery but until I get the build number they can't be sure. It should be noted that people who have just signed up to this deal are getting qouted august delivery times now.
lovelybeer
4 Jun 15#374
The MX5 can take a lot, so long as you give it sticky rubber, given it's RWD and the 2.0i has an LSD. I love ours but it goes in July (baby due). 350bhp is more than 100% power increase...i thought BBR only went to 300 with a stage 2 upgrade - even that is low 4s 0-62 and easy 150mph!
Bikerdanny
4 Jun 15#373
Book that man into the local head doctors ASAP !
bisto
4 Jun 151#371
I would love the R. Didn't get on it quick enough and then thought about it too long :disappointed:
I am going to have to sacrifice a car for this one. It is only worth about £100 (15 year old Suzuki) never gone wrong. I change the oil myself once in a while :wink: and it refuses to die! it is good for chucking the Kayak on though so I will be sad to see it go.
Do you think I could bungee the kayak to the panoramic roof of the 208? :smile:
karlie88
4 Jun 15#370
Have to agree with the Caterhams - so much fun but I don't think I went over 50mph. :laughing: Nimble little cars that put a smile on your face - a bit of rain and they get even better.
bisto
4 Jun 151#369
Spins its wheels in 3rd and 4th gear - he want's more!
karlie88
4 Jun 152#368
200bhp in a front wheel drive should be the maximum - slip diffs, premium tyres, etc. help but only to a certain extent.
I drive the Golf R sometimes and it is a fantastic car to drive. With the 4 wheel drive you know you can hammer it in/out of a corner and it will just grip and won't lose traction - nothing like I've seen in any other car. 4 exhausts are pretty awesome too. I've driven a Corsa VXR Nurburgring, Focus ST-3 and Golf R and the Golf is the biggest head turner. I dabbled with the launch control on a motorway slip road in the Golf once - 0 to 62mph in 3.9 seconds. :confused:
Don't get me wrong, I love Corsa VXRs, Fiesta STs, 208 GTis and the Renault Sport Clios - they're fantastic cars; it's just once you get used to their power, you always want more.
I'd love to add this new lease deal to our driveway - don't think I can justify it though! :laughing:
Bikerdanny
4 Jun 15#367
Yeah I bet that caterham was mega fun with it sliding/drifting everywhere, although if we did that on the road Mr plod and the general public may be slightly concerned. 350hp MX-5 oh god, I would defiantly hurt myself in something like that.
bisto
4 Jun 15#366
Yes, I agree.
The higher power FWD stuff tends to have diffs and clever electronics to keep it all in check.
Did a track day with 1.6 Caterhams with skinny tyres - they are almost too much fun at low speeds!
I would be doing three laps of every roundabout I came to if I had one :smiley:
Bloke at work has just spent £8k on a BBR turbo upgrade for his mx5 - 350bhp in that is too much!
Everyone he takes for a spin comes back white as a sheet :confused:
Bikerdanny
4 Jun 15#365
Ha I bet he had quite a suprise !!! You'll probably go back to your boy racer antics in the pug then :b
EvilGazebo
4 Jun 152#364
Yeah but those were built by the notoriously slack and inefficient German manufacturing sector. Whereas these will be built in France so......no......wait......hang on a minute........ :smile:
Bikerdanny
4 Jun 151#363
IMO anything over 200hp in a hatchback starts getting abit to much, like having a 1000cc sportsbike you can't use all the performance on the road unless you want to lose you licence/end up dead. I agree with james may that it is more fun to rag a low powered car than nanny around a powerful one.
I'll see how I enjoy the pug over the 18 months before deciding if I want more power through.
bisto
4 Jun 151#362
Yes, you got a cracking deal at £640 considering your age. I paid £800 plus on a fiat Uno turbo when I was 20.
I love little turbo cars, they are great fun. I had a chipped Punto Turbo after the Uno - mid range was awesome
Twit BMW 530 driver had a surprise when he bullied me over on the A40 one day :wink:
karlie88
4 Jun 151#361
Some people got sub £200 quotes for a Golf R on the R Forum - 300bhp with 4WD for a £32k car! Probably live in a highly affluent area with 20 years no claims.
bisto
4 Jun 15#360
With me as registered keeper it still comes back at £178 :smile: and Elephant, Hastings and churchill are between £180 & £195.
I knew that getting older would pay off one day :smiley:
I hope the Golf R is on offer (or the equivalent) again when this one expires.
Bikerdanny
4 Jun 15#359
Good qoute's for the both of us when you consider its a £20k car with 208hp !
bisto
4 Jun 15#358
Yep, 44. Went Kayaking today and I feel it now too! :smile:
Told Privilege that it was a private lease, the lease company owned it and said they were the keeper too. I will change the keeper to me and see what happens.
EvilGazebo
4 Jun 152#349
I think we might all be a little overly cynical here. I'm not saying the delivery dates won't slip but between the 2 deals there is 3.5k of heat and a lot of people saying they have ordered. I'm sure a few people have mentioned June delivery, some of us are July, now people getting August.
Dealer enters lots of 208 orders on system, one after another. Not really a surprise if the build date it spits out starts to get further away, surely?
Bikerdanny to EvilGazebo
4 Jun 15#350
That does seam logical especially for the special versions of a standard car such as this GTI, I can deal with a July delivery but if i'm waiting until september then I won't be a happy man well until I'm driving the car that is :b
karlie88 to EvilGazebo
4 Jun 15#357
Time will tell - I was just speaking from experience. I may well be wrong though.
I just think that 500-odd 208s with 65 plates would be better placed at an auction rather than 15 plates - hence dealers delaying where they can.
All I know is that the ridiculously cheap Golf R lease deals posted last Sept/Oct had a Feb delivery date. That soon changed to Mar and Apr. Most have since received the car in May.
Bikerdanny
4 Jun 15#356
Now don't take offense, but are you a older gent ? you'll have to mention to your insurers/when getting qoutes that a lease company owns the vehicle, but I believe you are classed as the register keeper. - This normally puts the qoute up, For me at age 23 it was £550 fully comp, but went up to £640 when I mentioned I wasn't the owner.
bisto
4 Jun 15#355
August or September is fine for me - with a deal as good as this I can wait :smile:
Can't believe how good it is. I went for 5000 miles and 6 months deposit in white - looks like a total of £2896.74
Got a quote for insurance and expected it to be quite expensive - £180 with Privilege :confused:
I hope they have some left when they finally process mine.
zermattbusby
4 Jun 151#352
Great news on the latest version, so would I be correct in saying this new 'facelift' model isn't actually on our roads yet?
Bikerdanny to zermattbusby
4 Jun 151#354
Yep you are correct sir :smiley:
mrtommo
4 Jun 15#351
Sorry if it's been asked already but what is the excess mileage charge? I'll do 22.5k in 18 months.
Bikerdanny to mrtommo
4 Jun 15#353
7p per mile inc VAT, so £70 per 1,000 miles extra. A friends uncle got a VRS on lease and mentioned that he was likely to go over his limit, they said if thats still the case give them bell before he does and they'll see what they can do. In the end they dropped the fee to 4p per mile, I don't have a clue what company that was etc.
microfrost
4 Jun 15#348
My order with carlease4u is definitely the new 208hp model and I've been told an August delivery with black metallic.
Bikerdanny
4 Jun 15#347
You local yourself ? When I get mine i'll give a cheeky wave/nod to any other new 208GTI user as it could be one of us HUKD folk ha.
traileruk
4 Jun 151#346
Only just seen in the other thread you're from Sheffield. Oh god we're gonna see 208's everywhere.
Bikerdanny
4 Jun 15#345
TBH I did think they were all Bulls**ting with there mid June delivery time estimate, and it makes sense that they would "lure" people in with that. God I hope your wrong and we don't have to wait until September but feel it would make sense for fiance companies to wait until then and then the cars are on 65 plates which will improve there resale come handing back time.
karlie88
4 Jun 15#344
Lead times vary depending on the car manufacturer. I got the Focus 3 months after I signed the proposal form. My Uncle, got the Golf R deal several months ago, but got delivery of the car a full 9 months later! It all depends...my friend got the Corsa VXR Clubsport deal and that arrived 4 months later.
All I know is, brokers underestimate delivery times, purely to get the orders in. CVL state 8-10 weeks delivery for the 208 GTi. So, that's already well into August. I'd say you're looking at Sept delivery now.
Bikerdanny
4 Jun 15#343
You've probably jinxed it now Karlie88, Was it yourself that got a focus st on lease hence why you didn't go for this peugeot deal ? If so who did you lease through and what delivery did they predict and actually achieve in the end ?
traileruk
4 Jun 15#342
Probably! Childhood nickname woes. I've never even owned a trailer! :disappointed:
traileruk
4 Jun 15#335
Just got finance approval through NVS and they are saying delivery times of mid-August now!
Bikerdanny to traileruk
4 Jun 15#338
This is going to sound harsh, but I hope that's just the case for the people who have just ordered compared to us that ordered at the beginning of the week ( first come first serve ) I want my GTI now :b ha
karlie88 to traileruk
4 Jun 15#341
I did think June was pushing it - hence, I predicted August delivery in the other thread.
Don't be surprised if you actually get delivery of the car in Sept now - who knows, some may end up on 65 plates rather than 15.
Bikerdanny
4 Jun 15#340
If your email name is the same as your HUKD name then it probably landed in there email spam box thinking you wanted to flog trailers :b hahaha, TBH my communication with them has been top notch and had very quick replies.
traileruk
4 Jun 15#339
I applied to NVS on Monday evening and they took 48+ hours to get back to me. So in that case, I hope we all have to wait till August :smiley:. Unless they do "First applied, first served" and not "Oh **** we've just found this application for traileruk on the floor, ahh well add it to the pile" at 3PM today!
Bikerdanny
4 Jun 15#337
Fantastic to hear that all the lease companies seam to be supplying the newer model :smiley: Has anyone else noticed that as well as the facelift body work and more powerful engine that both the GTI and the GTI by Peugeot sport have front brembo brakes now listed as standard in the brochure :smiley: (the older version only had brembo's fitted on the 30th anniversary edition)
hang-glider
4 Jun 15#336
I'm waiting for NVS to come back to me..... White with black wheels...... Can't wait
gonzo02
4 Jun 151#334
Order mine thru gateway2lease.
It's the newer vehicle
lutherinlondon
4 Jun 15#332
Still waiting on VS to clarify their position.
xoddsockthiefx to lutherinlondon
4 Jun 151#333
I'm in contact with Donna Day at VS. she has stated it is the newer version. sent me the pug brochure.
happy days
lutherinlondon
4 Jun 152#331
So just to confirm..... And I have it in writing.... NVS are supplying the newer more powerful model. They sent me the current Peugeot model brochure which has 3 GTi models, all rated at 208HP. :sunglasses:
bootymaster
4 Jun 15#330
Yeah, i sent back my form this morning, still waiting for an acknowledgement - i'll chase it tomorrow afternoon if i've not had a response and follow up my initial interest with VS.
traileruk
4 Jun 15#329
I got a finance approval from VS yesturday but have been waiting nearly 48 hours with NVS and still no response. I've accepted the VS one but if the NVS one comes back accepted I'll cancel my VS one (free within 14 days) and take the NVS one with the lower admin fee. So I wouldn't hold your breath of a NVS credit reply within 2 hours.
MattC1971
4 Jun 15#325
Still waiting for my quotation...
Bikerdanny to MattC1971
4 Jun 15#328
shouldn't take too long for them to fire it over, the credit checks usually only take a few hours aswell. NVS have stated that they have been swamped with confirmed 208GTI orders that they are processing so may take longer than normal to reply/answer the phones.
hero9989
4 Jun 15#327
AHHH. I've just had a read, apparently the 7" touchscreen has been updated on the newer one. The update allows for mirror screen. I'd have loved to have been able to have Waze on there... Damnit... Still, Fingers crossed we're wrong or the do a software update for the older one.
Bikerdanny
4 Jun 15#326
My order form is the same, we do have the NVS advert for the car - the MPG and Co2 claimed on the advert relate to the newer version of this engine and numerous journalists have stated the updated 208 went on sale June in our favor for the cars having the mild facelift.
nrps1
4 Jun 15#323
Hmm that's what I'm worried about, looks like it could be the slightly older 2015 model that isn't 208bhp? Hope not!
Bikerdanny to nrps1
4 Jun 152#324
Hopefully ether way shouldn't be a massive deal breaker for you, Yes it would be nice to have the extra power/less fuel consumption, but this is a outrageously cheap lease deal for this type of car - I personally would take a older version fully loaded with extra's like this than a slightly more powerful one with less spec. If it is the facelift version then I'll be doing triple backflips when it arrives rather than just double ones ha.
I'm 100% sure that all us HUKD peugeot 208GTI Prestige owners will enjoy our cars very much over the next 18 months.
hero9989
4 Jun 151#322
My order form doesn't say anything about the engine other than 1.6
gonzo02
4 Jun 15#321
It's on the spec sheet you get when you apply for a quotation
soldierboy001
4 Jun 15#320
You are wrong, do you think that a manufacturer would churn out cars just to use up all the old parts? Have you never heard of just in time? They would never use parts in that manner, what about parts required for repair or replacement if they've used up all the old parts?
Glad you are not a CEO.
sicourt
3 Jun 151#265
Great deal - would be tempted, but have a Golf R found through Hot Deals last year!
Scorpion to sicourt
4 Jun 15#319
Hasn't anyone tried to nick it yet? The Golf R is top of the thieves hit list according to a traffic copper I know, the mixture of 5 doors (in many cases), 4WD, lots of power and a short chassis make them ideal getaway cars. Police don't have the machinery to keep up with them unless it's on a motorway where the 530 & 330ds better aero dynamics mean they can keep pace with them.
Bikerdanny
4 Jun 151#318
I was thinking the same thing perhaps hence why this deal is so cheap, the NVS specs do suggest it is the newer model through - 52mpg and 125g/km are only available on the newer version. If anyone gets confirmed info please post. I would imagine NVS will be super busy with everyone's orders over the next few days.
traileruk
4 Jun 15#317
That's a bit naive to assume more expensive == more reliable. In the case of Porsche, it makes perfect sense that they are less reliable. They had a big recall last year for engines setting on fire too on their 911 GT3.
MaximusRo
4 Jun 15#316
Yep, so according to that graph, Ssang Yong is more reliable than Mercedes,
Fiat and Alpha Romeo more reliable than Porche...
In fact, all the brands that we all know and hate as unreliable (like Vauxhall, Fiat, franch... ) are more reliable than the brands we only dream about, like Porche, Bentley, BMW, Mercedes, Audi... yeah, makes sense! lol...
marathonic
4 Jun 15#301
Half the people commenting on cars don't have a clue about reliability. For example, I've had a person comment on a Peugeot 407 that I owned saying that they'd never purchase a Peugeot and that I’d regret it as soon as something goes wrong. Yet they were happily driving around in their Ford Focus 1.6 TDCi – a car with the EXACT same engine.
I now drive a Honda Accord and haven't had a problem to date, nor do I expect one given the reliability figures at the link below. However, many friends drive an Audi A4 and never give up talking about their excellent reliability. Only one has had problems but, looking at the link below, Audi has the second worst statistics for reliability - it's reputation, which appears to be misplaced, suggests otherwise. I'll go with the cold, hard facts though.
Please note that the reliability index is based on customer reports, nothing else.
BMW, VW, Audi, Mercedes-Benz are ALL at the bottom, behind Daewoo, Fiat... need I say more?
Seriously, do you really believe Bentley is the least reliable car in the world? And Fiat and Daewoo are at the top of the reliability?
Toyota had so many recalls and issues in the last few years, and yet it's at the top... and SsangYong is more reliable than Mercedes?
Apply some reasoning to it.
nrps1
4 Jun 151#314
Lol - ***We are currently working through over 150 enquiries and applications on the Peugeot 208 GTI please bear with us on response times**
Edit - I tried calling to get to the bottom of the colours/options/engine type etc etc, no answer as 'busy handling calls'
zermattbusby
4 Jun 151#313
Yeah that makes sense
However could it not be the case the factory decided to churn out a few thousand of these on the cheap to use up all the 'old' parts?
Hope I'm wrong...
nrps1
4 Jun 15#312
The NVS site is pretty bad when it comes to giving you info eh! I hope someone calls (I can't, at work) and gets all the correct info soon and posts here :wink:
karlie88
4 Jun 15#311
I thought because they're factory orders...hence the newer model?
gonzo02
4 Jun 15#309
The car will definitely be the newer engine/spec.
zermattbusby to gonzo02
4 Jun 15#310
Not doubting you, but can you tell us how you know for certain? Cheers
nrps1
4 Jun 15#306
On checking the configurator on the Pug site, looks like the fancy half colour option is for the GTi Sport only, not the Prestige. Shame that! Doesn't seem that NVS can supply that version. Does suggest 208bhp though.
hero9989 to nrps1
4 Jun 151#308
Not really sure on that. Somebody else has said that the GTi will be getting a 'facelift' and sharing the same engine as the 30th anniversary meaning the higher power/acceleration/fuel economy. The red/black paint job is specific to the 30th anniversary though. I think we'll end up getting the older one (that would explain the reason for all of this, get rid of old stock before the facelift happens). Still a fantastic car, wouldn't say no to the extra mpg though...
Where is this coming from? I can't find anything about breakdown cover?
Also - Food for thought.
Schadenfreude
4 Jun 151#307
Metallic Paint (Nera Black/Orange Power/Rioja Red) and Textured or Pearlescent Paint (Ice Silver/Satin White) cost between £16.86 and £28.08 per month depending on which lease deal you go for.
dean_brfc
4 Jun 15#305
Of course it's a problem! Breaking down is still bad thing to happen, even if you don't have to pay the bill.
Edit: Not saying this will break down, just talking in general.
nrps1
4 Jun 15#302
So any updates on colours that can be chosen, exact specs etc? I'd be after the black alloys, red/black paint and 208bhp, but my gut tells me they are offering this deal because they have the older less customed model...
colloq to nrps1
4 Jun 15#304
Think it's been quoted on this thread or the previous one. You can upgrade to metallic or textured paint for the book cost over 18months. Off top of my head it was around £10/20 extra p/month.
nrps1
4 Jun 15#303
Oh and I've owned a 205 and a 306, awesome cars and fond memories from my younger years. I do have an 11yr old Nissan 350z, but tempted with the switch as more bells and whistles, similar performance, and much cheaper to run!
kevinsmbuk
4 Jun 15#298
nice looking car but Peugeot so no thanks, unreliable piece of crap
soldierboy001 to kevinsmbuk
4 Jun 153#299
Well you can't get a more reliable endorsement than that can you?
ollie87 to kevinsmbuk
4 Jun 15#300
Not really a problem with a brand new car since it has a three year warranty and three years free breakdown cover.
yus786
4 Jun 15#297
Could anyone with this car or with a 3 door 208 answer one question
Can you easily fold the back seats down from the boot side or does it require you to open the side doors?
Watched so many videos and can't seem to work it out
DubDriver
3 Jun 151#295
How would this compare for someone who normally buys new and keeps for 6 years?
I don't know, I'm no expert but this is what I'm figuring ...
You can buy this car from Drive The Deal for £17,800.
How much would it be worth after 6 years?
Say £5000?
Cost of ownership = £12,800?
This deal £12,784 (assuming I could get a a similar deal every 18 months).
Less 3 MOT's, plus interest on the cash still in my pocket.
Looks like it works out about the same but with the advantage that you always have a new car plus without the hassle of having to sell it.
Bikerdanny to DubDriver
3 Jun 15#296
Vert good point, unless you intend on buying a 208GTI used and keep for a few years then buying new doesn't work out unless you keep for many many years. I would rather just have a brand new car myself every few years.
karlie88
3 Jun 15#294
Keep reading...
Spod
3 Jun 15#293
£270 on £3200 in 18 months? That's 8.4% in 18 months or just over 5% per year. Where can you get 5% interest per annum on £3200? Sounds like a hot deal if you can do it ...
_g_
3 Jun 15#292
Oh, that was individual items to spend £3200 - if only they could all be done for that!
(I did do the first day of AFF, was an interesting experience, but lots of other things I'd spend my money on first... however it's still below a car that costs me £3200 over 18 months :smiley: )
springbrucesteen
3 Jun 15#291
now dont get mixed up with £3200 and a lottery win (and i had to google "AFF course" )
_g_
3 Jun 15#290
For me; a lot of better ways :smiley:.
For instance, learning to hang glide and buying more/better kit. Motorbikes (because in reality in England you can't go for a decent 'drive'). A more expensive holiday. Trackdays bke and/or car. AFF course. A motorhome so I can carry my toys around and live in comfort (ok, or fuel for said motorhome I already have, as a 7.5t lorry drinks a fair bit.) High spec home entertainment system, computers and so on.
Food in nice restaurants over that time.
But yes, I do well appreciate that for many this would be the best use of £3.2k they would want.
springbrucesteen
3 Jun 15#289
again it comes down to if you have £3200 to blow on a car , now obviously if your overdrawn at bank and living on beans on toast , counting the pennies etc then perhaps its not a good idea but some people have a good old bit of disposable income and what better way to dispose of it than having a shiny new car
xycom
3 Jun 151#288
Lot of kit for the money, great deal this.
springbrucesteen
3 Jun 151#287
so you missed the Golf R lease deal...... ah well never mind ,
_g_
3 Jun 15#286
If NEW cars are your hobby, then sure it's a nice deal.
Certainly very good compared to other new options.
I've bought and sold E36 M3s for less than this - in both cases not in perfect nick, but a much better choice for the 'hobbyiest' I would suggest :wink:.
bisto
3 Jun 15#285
I agree to a point and obviously this deal is not for you, but if you like cars and fancy a little blast and some driving fun for 18 months, this is a great deal.
I fish and in 18 months I could easily spend that on tackle, tickets, bait etc. Most peoples hobbies are probably more expensive than they realise.
If cars are your hobby, you can't go wrong with a deal like this. I love a little hot hatch and this new Gti is a welcome return to form from Peugeot.
_g_
3 Jun 15#284
A planet full of lots of other interesting things to do with £3200, seeing that you asked!
soldierboy001
3 Jun 151#283
Let's point out the demographics of this deal.
The production costs of this vehicle is probably about £15,000 . Peugeot still own this car which would probably be sold to a dealer at £16,000 so Peugeot make £1,000 per vehicle.
You pay Peugeot £3,200 for this vehicle, giving Peugeot £18,200.
When you return the vehicle it will go through the auction, where only dealers can bid on it, and it will probably fetch in excess of £15,000, back to the cost of the vehicle in the first place.
So Peugeot have got their initial money for the car plus £3,200 over 18 months.
In the meantime the leasing company have been paid a commission for doing this deal for Peugeot, an unknown fee.
So both Peugeot and the leasing company are quid's in for no loss.
And you have a fantastic deal without having to haggle.
mybuddy23
3 Jun 15#282
Smartguy1
3 Jun 151#281
This looks like quite a good deal. Less time than a mobile phone contract and what can you buy for £166.00 a month. You would lose more than £3,200 after 18 months if you bought on on hp because of the stealers high profit margins. You would probably lose that in 6 months let alone 18 months. I bought a car once for £9.5k and needed to sell it quick 6 months later and took £6.5k for the car from a dealer. It still booked at £8.5k but those showrooms are not cheap to build you know. Some will see money wasted on something that you will never own but to me I have never leased a car, but am considering it now because I seem to pay £150/£200 a month for ever on HP on cars that are 2/3 years old when I buy them. At least by leasing I could have something newer and maybe save some money too.
snagzie
3 Jun 15#280
soldierboy001
3 Jun 15#279
If you only think you know how much you sold your S80 for your points are not valid or worth considering. I always know how much I spend or receive.
soldierboy001
3 Jun 151#278
What planet do you come from?
soldierboy001
3 Jun 15#277
What a load of bilge, what did you have for breakfast? what ever it was it's just come back up.
wheelbo
3 Jun 15#268
Can any of you wise car leasers help me? I'm wondering if any of you had seen a decent deal for a crossover type car like a Nissan Juke or similar on a lease deal for about a two year deal? I'm new to all this and can't be arsed to drive a problematic used car anymore.
Bikerdanny to wheelbo
3 Jun 15#274
Not noticed anything as cheap as this for a crossover, but then again I've not been looking. with you seaming flexiable with what car you want as long as its a crossover you'll have a great choice of car and deals :smiley: I personally really like the Mazda CX-3 out of all the small crossovers. Try using one of the many leasing comparison sites.
karlie88 to wheelbo
3 Jun 15#276
Nissan Juke for £141.99 per month on a 6+23 profile - £852 deposit plus 23 monthly payments of £142. No admin fee. 8k miles pa.
Maybe try 8:30am? Or midday if youre not a morning person.
spenspuma
3 Jun 15#273
Embarrassing
snagzie
3 Jun 15#269
I'd love one of these but isn't the right time at the moment. Hot deal indeed though.
I'd really like to see some lease deal that could genuinely replace a used car that does, say, 35mpg, and costs £280 per year to tax and does around 8k miles with something that worked out cheaper to run (including tax and petrol) for less.
karlie88 to snagzie
3 Jun 15#272
There was a good lease deal on a Renault Zoe and Nissan Leaf in the past.
Think the last Zoe deal was £150ish per month.
karlie88
3 Jun 151#271
Oooo errr sir.
Rom
3 Jun 15#270
Please stop using the term "troll" inappropriately.
As far as people being allowed to post their opinions of leasing versus buying a car, I've never leased a vehicle so I'm interested in the pros and cons thanks.
dudedude
3 Jun 15#267
Good for what? A Peugeot 208 is useless to me, I don't have a need for that kind of car.
Or if you did want a small car, then there are cars that are 'better' for the money, depending on your definition of better - many people would rather have an MX5, for example. A brand new 208 is not necessarily 'better'.
This is a good deal if you are vaguely needing a hatchback, but otherwise it's not.
therealjohnpeat
3 Jun 15#266
This is slightly disingenuous - there's plenty of things which can happen to a car which no-one is going to claim on insurance. Hitting potholes breaks suspension parts, stones break exhausts and hoses, road debris scratches paint, minor vandalism can be pricey but not pricey enough to be worth a claim and so on.
I used-to-work in a body shop and most of our private business was people wanting stuff fixed which wasn't worth claiming on the insurance for - even if you have protected NCB, every claim you make will increase future policies (and yes, I know you're supposed to inform your insurer of any incident but no-one actually DOES that!) :smiley:
As I said - be aware that you're looking-after someone else's car and they'll want it back clean and tidy - nothing missing/broken/scratched/dented - maintenance done on-time and so on.
ameerahmed
3 Jun 15#263
so the total cost is only 3.2k?
no silly comments.
just needs explaining to me..
therealjohnpeat to ameerahmed
3 Jun 15#264
You are paying for the depreciation on the car - nothing else. You never own it - you have a right to use it for a max of 15,000 miles over 18 months and then you give it back (in the condition you received it - e.g. damages repaired) and that's that.
Oh - and you must pay the entire amount whatever happens - no bailing-out or changing your mind midway (charges for cancelling leases usually cost more than the leases would anyway!!)
Clearly they have some cars they got at a good discount and they're optimistic they'll not drop more in that time. 18 months is a very short lease - they clearly want to get the cars back when they're still "quite new" and worth something.
£3200 is £178 a month or 22p a mile (before petrol and other costs obv.) - just to have a car.
skeggman
3 Jun 15#259
Firstly, I do think that this is a good deal.
As a work of warning however.... I used to have a 3008 with the AWFUL 1.6THP engine. Mine burned 1 litre of fully synthetic oil every 1000 miles. It has significant timing chain tensioner issues (mine went twice in the 18 months I owned the car and this is a well documented fault). BMW no longer use this engine in the Mini or 1 series range as it is too unreliable.
Saying that, it propelled my tank of an MPV along at good speed so I can only imagine what it's like tuned up by another 50bhp in the 208 GTI.
Bikerdanny to skeggman
3 Jun 15#262
Not sure if they have sorted out these issues, but with modern engines to try stop them using oil you have to break the engine in by - warm engine up fully, then proceed to use all of the rev range - don't keep it at a constant RPM, do this for the first few hundred miles and should minimise oil useage.
myoung82
3 Jun 15#258
The spec sheets from 1st April this year say 200bhp
Bikerdanny to myoung82
3 Jun 15#261
I'll check with NVS tomorrow, I managed to get hold of the 1st of may version 2 brochure. All versions of the GTI in this brochure have 208hp emissions are down to 125g and MPG is up to 52 !!!! from 47.
Sp0oner
3 Jun 15#260
Cheers will check with them.
myoung82
3 Jun 15#257
If u could confirm then that would be great. Looking at Peugeot spec sheets only the special edition has 208bhp
myoung82
3 Jun 15#254
This isn't the 208bhp version. It is the 200bhp version unfortunately
The 208bhp version is a special edition by Peugeot sport.
Bikerdanny to myoung82
3 Jun 15#256
Nope its the 208hp version, as of cars built in July 2015 both power went up and emissions went down for the GTI not just the special edition - I live chatted with Peugeot to confirm, this may be built before that date through - will have to confirm with NVS tomorrow.
chaz1992
3 Jun 15#252
Looks an amazing spec, and wouldn't mind a 2 year lease (guess it's just a matter of searching). It ticks all the boxes! Now for the insurance to see what it'll cost me... £1013.36 :o FML!
Might be a silly question, but if I do go for this, can I continue leasing at the same rate after the 18 months (like a mobile contract)?
Bikerdanny to chaz1992
3 Jun 151#255
Really up to the leasing companies discretion, captian obvious here but its ether going to go 3 ways - they allow you to extend the lease, offer to sell you the car or they take it back and sell it themselves.
Its not a deal breaker for me, but if I really enjoy the car it would be nice to extend the lease for abit longer, I don't think I would buy it off the lease company through as something with this much tech will cost a small fortune to fix when out of warranty - only 3 years on the Peugeot.
JAST500
2 Jun 15#18
Nice one op! I'm finding it too hard to resist! Just submitted for a quote and hopefully will get one! The wife is going kill me... The conservatory will have to wait!!
gonzo02 to JAST500
2 Jun 151#19
That makes 2 of us !
Bikerdanny to JAST500
3 Jun 151#253
Simply inform her that the 209GTI Prestige has a panoramic roof so is effectively a mobile conservatory :b
Bossworld
3 Jun 15#251
I didn't raise the original point above, but out of interest, I googled this engine.
On Wikipedia, this is lumped together with the older N14 without variable valve timing and with the timing chain (death rattle) issue found on 2007-2010 R56 Cooper Ss.
Whereas until the launch of the R56, MINIs from the last four years used the updated N18 (higher horsepower than the original MINI N14 implementation, better mpg and VVT)?
So which engine does this one take after?
danny2156
3 Jun 151#244
Just phoned admiral, went from £800 under my name to £990 with Peugeot as the registered keepers, which the girl said would be the correct way. Not the end of the world, but still annoying as it's the same person driving regardless of the actual owner!
imiskeen to danny2156
3 Jun 15#250
That's ridiculous? My insurance is a multi-car policy from Admiral and where it states "owner of vehicle" for the lease car in the policy Schedule its left blank. I called them to double check that I had declared one of my cars was on a lease and that all was in order. They stated that leasing or ownership makes no difference what so ever to the price of their policies.
It turns out I had told them about it being a lease, and they were well aware of it. I think your on the receiving end of some kind of scam fella. I'm guessing that typically it may be age related, I'm in my 40's but I know how some insurance companies like to restrict the younger folk from living their lives etc. Either way, I'd give admiral a quick call to double check that again.
If you have another car in the house, get a multi car quote and see if that makes a difference?
bootymaster
3 Jun 15#232
I think i'm right in saying that when you look for insurance they are the registered owner, you are the registered keeper - it makes a difference of about £50-£100 over a year.
Bikerdanny to bootymaster
3 Jun 15#237
Yes after order my 208GTI I asked the last from NVS and she confirmed that the lease company is the owner but I'm the keeper.
karlie88 to bootymaster
3 Jun 151#249
I'd double check on those details with Peugeot's finance department rather than information from NVS. If the V5C is in Peugeot's name then they are the registered keeper; not you.
Another way to find out is to ask what would happen with speeding tickets/parking charge notices/bus lane fines etc. If the answer is paying the cost of the fine plus an admin fee, then that indicates that your are not the registered keeper.
MattC1971
3 Jun 152#248
2 year PCP on this car works out to £3769 deposit and £264.01 x 24 which totals £10105.24. This lease deal seems scorching...
Bikerdanny
3 Jun 15#247
Sorry don't know in regards to that, prehaps watch the peugeot carbuyer 208 video as they normally show stuff like that although the GTI may have a different tpye of rear bench. Peugeot live chat is helpful when I used it - http://www.offers.peugeot.co.uk/ - should be a tab on the right of this page.
2003bluecat
3 Jun 15#246
You can't put a price on peace of mind....
Sp0oner
3 Jun 15#245
Thanks, just to check will they all fold flat if I wanted them too? I'm thinking if I wanted my dogs in the back (with the interior covered over first of course).
nd1985
3 Jun 152#243
If you bought a USED car for £3200 and sold it 15k miles and 18 months later, I'd be surprised if;
a) The car was anywhere as good as the one being advertised here
b) it didn't cost money you weren't expecting (tyres/brakes/other annoying problems)
c) The servicing was much cheaper than the £99 it would cost to service the 208 at 10k miles (Oh 60k miles sir, that'll be a major cambelt service please ...)
d) It was as cheap on tax and insurance as this one, whilst having similar performance/economy
Also to the person saying they would have a £10k mini, you do know the Mini has the same engine as this one, albeit older and more troublesome (google it)
I tried the older / faster / better route but the fact is with a new car, it is all covered by warranty and you don't spend your time wondering, what will break next / will it pass its next MOT
It's not for everyone, but this is a cracking deal
danny2156
3 Jun 15#238
It's ridiculous. The lease company advise it's Peugeot finance who are both the owners and registered keepers, which they should be. Put that into go compare and it's gone from a few hundred for a quote to a few thousand.
lovelybeer to danny2156
3 Jun 15#242
Call them direct. They'll see this as fronting until you explain it to them!
Sp0oner
3 Jun 15#240
Does anyone know if the rear seats fold down? Probably not but I know some small hatches do have folding rear seats.
Bikerdanny to Sp0oner
3 Jun 15#241
Yep split rear bench type.
southlegend
3 Jun 152#239
Shock horror... everyone is different and would like to spend their money how they want to. Why people insist on coming onto lease deals and preaching about how THEY think someone else should spend their money is baffling.
Mr partner and I comfortably earn over the average UK household income and have no dependants (as well as the benefits of living up North!). We fell in love with the Golf GTD last weekend and are in the process of ordering one on a lease.
Yeah we could go and get a lot of different used cars for £10-15k or whatever - and that's great. Honestly I'm happy for you that you have the time and don't mind searching for a quality older used car.
We however, are happy paying for maintenance free motoring for a car that we absolutely adore, cannot wait to drive and will enjoy driving every day until we hand it back and choose another car that we love.
I imagine quite a few of the people interested in this deal could probably hand over the £3200 up front if they wanted to - it's not all about the money!
The point of my post is: there are people for whom these deals are great and there are those for whom this won't be viable. Please clog up the thread with your unwanted opinion if this isn't for you. Trust me, lease drivers have heard it ALL before...
lovelybeer
3 Jun 15#236
Worth doing, as some insurers will note that it is a lease car, and not someone trying to 'front' or similar.
Bikerdanny
3 Jun 151#235
Just through money supermarket. The admiral qoute may have stayed the same but I wasn't paying attention as they weren't the cheapest. I'm actually with admiral now so may give them a call and see if they can lower the price over the phone.
therealjohnpeat
3 Jun 15#230
Just to clear something up here - a number of people in this thread seem to think this is a fully maintained lease - it's not (or I'm reading it wrong) - it's just for the use of the car???
You will have to service the car (at least once), tax it, replace any wear and tear items (tyres, maybe brakes) and - and this is a biggie - repair any damage you or anyone else causes.
If it was your own car, you could choose if/when/how/with who to repair any scratches or issues but with a lease car you need that done reputably/with paperwork to prove it before it's returned (issues with lease cars tend to result in silly bills being sent to you otherwise)
Sure, it's warranted but damage is still a real thing - wear and tear is a real thing - vandalism/parking prangs happen - child seats can damage seat fabrics and so on. It's like renting a house, some 'wear and tear' is fine, anything outside of that isn't and the lease company can and will chase you for the cost of putting anything right (at a silly rate)
All stuff to be aware of - it's not £3200 and no other costs by any means...
lovelybeer to therealjohnpeat
3 Jun 15#234
I don't think anyone believes it's 100% maintained.
Tax is covered by the lease. Servicing, yes - you can usually go anywhere you like: so long as 100% genuine parts are used. The exception appears to be Mercedes from memory - they are really fussy.
Tyres, yes, this is annoying if your lease car uses £200 per corner tyres. Hence why paying for a fully maintained deal, can sometimes be beneficial (more so when "dealer" servicing is factored in, should that be your thing).
Accidents and vandalism are covered by insurance (so long as your policy is built appropriately). GAP insurance covers any discrepancies to invoice etc.
As already mentioned (and glossed over?) BVRLA guidelines on minor cosmetic damage is very forgiving on lease vehicles!
lovelybeer
3 Jun 15#233
1. Your example is anecdotal, rendering it nothing close to being a standard matter of fact. Your point on a £20k car is excellent - the point here is that the rental costs in total, are likely to be quite a bit less than the depreciation over the same time period.
2. What's the cost of getting £4k on a personal loan? Not that it's relevant to a new car deal vs buying/financing personally a new car, but still - personal loan if you like. The used car route is still moot for those of us interested in new cars alone. I appreciate value can be had, but that's not what is being put forward as a deal. Else we'd end up with a lot of auto-trader deals. Those are unique, while this is available on (assuming so) mass.
3. A risk. One a lot of people don't want to take. Mileage charges are as you say, known. Risk of repair? Who knows!
4. You also need to consider that a used car buyer may be fussy and waste your time trying to haggle. Put simply: let's assume that the vast majority of people don't want to drive something that has taken part in what appears to be a destruction derby. To answer your point fairly: minor damage is also not a problem on a lease. Check out the BVRLA guidelines!
5. Don't hate something I take a guilty pleasure in :smile: who cares about how many "likes" a post gets? If people are even remotely concerned by volume of likes or badges on an internet site, they probably need to re-evaluate their priorities.
dean_brfc
3 Jun 15#231
Doesn't make sense. People interested in buying cars are posting here.
What would be the point of only people wanting the deal posting? You'd only get one side of a discussion then.
dudedude
3 Jun 15#229
Well fundamentally a £2k car cannot depreciate beyond zero.
But I sold my S80 53 2.5T plate for I think £1800 70,000 miles about 4 years ago. The buyer got a good deal and I don't think they would be much less than that today on 100,000 miles.
It's not that hard to do.
You really need to add up ALL the costs of motoring. On a £20k car depreciation is (usually, excluding sometimes specialist cars) a significant cost. On a £2k car you don't need to worry about it.
I'm not sure what your point here is really. You can get the £4k financed cheaper using a personal loan if you want, but putting up strawman arguments based on what uninformed HUKD 15-year-olds say about buying new cars aren't terribly relevant - you need to consider how cars actually ARE sold, not how internet keyboard warriors think they are.
They aren't really comparable. The mileage charge is guaranteed, the repair cost is unknown.
My point is that if you are selling a used car minor damage isn't a problem. It is on a lease, and it should be part of your cost analysis.
Fair enough, but such posts as your always get about 300,000 likes so it's not quite as it seems - most people do understand that leases can be a good deal, clueless people just make more noise.
karlie88
3 Jun 151#228
Too many trolls on here today.
What I don't get is why people comment on a deal that they have no interest in? :confused:
You don't see me commenting on those Steam game computer deals. Why? Because I have no interest in it and don't intend purchasing the product.
lovelybeer
3 Jun 15#227
It may be useful to advise which insurer this is - as mentioned, on our Admiral Multi Car policy, we've been advised it is not something they change premiums for.
Bikerdanny
3 Jun 151#226
My qoute went up by £50 when I inputted that a lease company owned the vehicle, not a deal breaker for me. but something to consider.
Sp0oner
3 Jun 15#221
I'm very tempted with this as my every day car and keep my SUV as the family car for days out and long trips. Any indication how long this deal is about for? I need to go test drive one before thinking further.
Bikerdanny to Sp0oner
3 Jun 15#225
I really don't think this deal will be around for long TBH, the brokers/leasers would have an arrangement with a Peugeot dealer to channel all these cars through just that showroom. The dealer will get huge discounts for the large numbers of orders, however there might have a limit on exactly how much discount bonus they can claim or the finance company could cut the super cheap deposit at any time.
Normally these lease cars require a £1200+ deposit and hot hatches like this start at £200 per month for 10k per year.
danny2156
3 Jun 15#220
I appreciate people with no intention of ever buying anything like to write a load of rubbish, but it does not help the people who do want to buy.
I'll ask again, has anyone else who have gone for this deal enquired about insurance and found the price to be whacked up massively when adding the lease company as the owners and registered keepers.
lovelybeer to danny2156
3 Jun 15#224
No. It's down to the insurer, though - Admiral for example, don't change the premium at all, whereas others might.
Best to check beforehand, especially if you are multi-car. It may be more beneficial to move insurers.
lovelybeer
3 Jun 151#223
I'll bite!
1. Admin fee already covered in subsequent posts.
2. Service costs for service alone, very comparable. For additional consumables, equally comparable, but perhaps more likely on a used vehicle that is closer to wearing out discs/pads/tyres.
3. Find me a £2k car that won't depreciate when doing 10k miles per year.
4. Who mentioned buying a used car for £3-£4k on finance? Oh - you did. Nobody else has. Dealer finance often double-digit and will still need a deposit comparable to an admin fee on a lase.
5. PCP - good point - but requires a deposit too. A valid comparison, but again, that's not the comparison people are attempting to make (note: buying a used car outright etc). See my other point on "gaps" for gap insurance. Note as well that *many* deals out there require minimum one payment up front. Just look around or ask - the firms are happy to help.
6. Additional mileage varies. Buyer beware, obviously. Usually 6-7ppm + VAT. My point is that your own used but perfectly good car, is mileage unlimited, with an increasing risk of repairs needed the higher you go. Also obvious.
7. Not sure what your point is, but common sense prevails: you don't borrow something, abuse/damage it and expect to give it back without recourse. Again, buyer beware, but BVRLA guidance can help you there. It's not all that bad.
8. See point 5 above. People often point out the "danger" of losing your up-front payment. I'd suggest gap insurance on any new car - leased or otherwise. It also makes sense on some used cars, but not all. I assume you know what gap insurance is, so will stop there.
9. My wife has to have a vehicle under 3 years old to qualify for car allowance. This is a case whereby she *needs* a new car at least once every three years. A big portion of firms stipulate similar rules. My point remains.
10. Sorry you don't understand. I won't try to elaborate any further, other than to say "exception to the rule" is written quite clearly for all to read. Sorry again if you missed that bit.
11. Also sorry if you struggle to grasp what is referred to as a "concept". Not sure what else to add here.
12. Bilge, perhaps. But less so than the other 99% of ill-informed posts.
Good day, sir :man:
_g_
3 Jun 15#222
Plenty of cars that would be possible for - for instance a higher spec german motorway barge already on 125k is unlikely to devalue massively in that time.
The Laguna I paid £750 for did 4 years for a total of around £150 a year in depreciation (could have got more, but wanted a quick sale). Didn't service it as much as I should have, saving more money. About 35k miles in that time I think.
But, it wasn't a shiny new car with a shiny new number plate on, so wouldn't do well for the snobs :smiley:. Wasn't great on fuel. Still cost me a hell of a lot less over the time than friend's who bought new German diesel hatchbacks which were good on fuel at the same time.
From experience of others, there's still a good risk that you'll have problems with a new car that will end up with you spending time and possibly money getting sorted - for instance the people that have had hand brakes let go and the car roll in to other vehicles/a wall/etc.
dudedude
3 Jun 15#219
There will however typically be an admin fee, similar to the registration fee. Some leases charge you VED.
Service costs on new cars likely to be lower.
Well not necessarily. You can easily buy a £2k car that doesn't depreciate over several years.
No it doesn't, ALL used car dealers LOVE people without cash, as they will finance it for you.
But you can do that without a lease, using PCP. And some leases have high upfront payments. Further, leases introduce other complications, such as 'gaps', e.g., if your car gets written off then essentially you have lost the value of your upfront payment.
Cashflow in today's 0.5% base rate market is not such a big issue for very many people.
Yes but you need to explain the added complexity of a mileage limit on leases. If you get a 5k lease and do 10k then that can be very expensive.
A used car isn't necessarily that easy to sell in fact. New cars on finance are not necessarily able to clear the finance. The cost of getting out of your lease won't exceed the remaining payments.
Also you forget that if you dent the panels and kerb the alloys on your £1k used car, you don't have to pay to repair it, but you have no choice about paying for damage to a leased car - and probably most of the time there WILL be damage.
Sorry you need to explain why this might be useful, it's just a meaningless buzzword otherwise.
Eh, it's not necessarily about not caring. You can buy a used S-Class for let's say £10k and stick a dateless number plate on it. There's no way to drive a new one (bought or leased) for that kind of cost. Yes, you'd rather have the newer one with better gadgets and fuel economy, but it costs so much that it's out of the question.
Most people don't *require* a new vehicle, unless you are a taxi driver or something.
Platinum my a***. It's not a simple equation like that at all.
If you rent a depreciating asset all you are doing is shifting around the cost of that deprciation. It doesn't, normally, make it cheaper. In fact it should make it more expensive because you are involving extra admin in the process. You still have to pay for the depreciation.
There are cases where cars go out for 2.5p, like this, because the manufacturer is dumping them on the leasing company rather than lose face by selling them for a pittance at retail. But that's not the rule at all.
If I want a particular style of car than a lease might be cheaper, it might not. You really have to consider ALL the costs, and that includes servicing, depeciation, cosmetic damage, and typical repair bills.
Most stupid argument in history. A hotel costs £15 million, I haven't got £15 million in the bank, I do have £2000 though. Plus whereas I will use a car every day for several years, I only need a hotel for a week.
And virtually NO-ONE, actually ties up 'vast sums of cold hard cash' when buying a new car. The overwhelming majority of new cars are financed, typically on PCP.
Moreover, the alternative to leasing or buying a new car is to buy a used one. Most people in this country can pay cash for a used car. That used car might cost £500, it might cost £5,000 or even £50,000.
I get it just fine, this is a very good deal, but you have spouted a lot of bilge and misleading information about lease in general.
MattC1971
3 Jun 15#218
The THP engine in the 208 GTI was also a joint venture between Peugeot and BMW. The early ones had cam chain problems on the Pugs, Citroen C3, and the Mini Cooper S
londongeeza
3 Jun 15#80
£3200 for only 18 months (plus mileage restriction) and then what?
Give it back and get on the bus... :-)
Bazza71 to londongeeza
3 Jun 15#217
Comment
Better to keep quiet and let everyone assume you're an idiot, than open your mouth and confirm it.
lovelybeer
3 Jun 15#216
If it's a 1.6 diesel Mini, it uses a Peugeot developed diesel engine. True fact.
MattC1971
3 Jun 151#215
I guess a lot depends on whether you see a car as a 'possession' or a 'tool'. I am tempted with this, It will cost you less than the depreciation on the same car over the same time period, doesn't need cash tied into it, no car to sell at the end of it, etc...
Yes you can argue you are spending over £3K with nothing to show at the end of it, however my current car (that was bought used) has cost me around £4.5K over the last 2 years in depreciation, MOT costs, unplanned maintenance, etc, so this would be a better deal.
dean_brfc
3 Jun 15#214
Many do but the vast majority don't.
Perhaps to be more precise, hardly any people that have the cash to purchase outright will rent those products. It's fairly obvious what market Brighthouse is aiming for.
dean_brfc
3 Jun 15#213
I meant immaculate visually, of course I couldn't be sure what was underneath the surface. You make the gamble sound like the odds of flipping a coin. Almost everyone buys and sells used cars without issues.
I hope you're not using "extended warranty" purchases to advocate leasing! They're the least savvy consumers of the lot. Read what Martin Lewis says about insurance and extended warranties.
I'm not going to go into a massive amount of detail on the finances, but MOTs and tax have been around £300. The 5% savings account you mention completely ignore tax btw.
All those things about engine compression etc might be true for all I know. But I do know it's mine and it's not a Peugeot. I'm happy with that.
hero9989
3 Jun 15#209
People talking about breakdown cover. Does that come with this? Where does it say?
lovelybeer to hero9989
3 Jun 15#212
They normally do, so as to ensure that the car is looked after by the "correct" or approved garage(s).
If not, circa £50 a year for a middle-of-the-road policy will do it.
andreasuk
3 Jun 15#211
Personally im happy with the work im doing right now.My work is not the main question here:-). We shouldnt take this matter to a totally different direction.
I said if i earned more this deal would be appealing to me. This deal is not for me but i dont have any problem with that. I can see that it can work out well for some people.
m5rcc
3 Jun 151#210
Many do...
steviekia
3 Jun 151#208
Heat,
This should just about get me through my midlife crisis.
Wanted a Focus ST but too expensive,nearly bought a Kawasaki Z800 but didn't want to die so this for 18 months then a sensible boring plug in will do nicely.
MaximusRo
3 Jun 15#207
An immaculate Mini for £7k? That is your non-specialist opinion, you are not a car mechanic, are you?
And you didn't do a full check, I assume. In fact, for all we know, it could have been leased and drove in the red zone quite a lot and the engine compression might be 30% lower than what is should be. Which in turn might cost you 30% more in terms of fuel. Of course, I assume it is not a 200bhp horse power engine as the car in this deal, and it has no panoramic sunroof, satnav and so on? So why even compare the two?
Did you measure the break pads and discs before buying? If you did, congrats, most of us do not. Again a gamble.
Also, you seem to forget you had to have £7k cash in the first place! Invested in a 100% risk-free bank account with 5% interest, this would earn you another £700 (more actually) in interest in the two years.
You also paid for MOTs, road tax about £600 during the two years.
You gambled £7000 or your money in a second hand car that could die on you soon after (and still can, as you have no warranty). Some people pay extra for warranty for their phones, let alone for their cars.
You assume you will get £5000 for it... but you don't know actually. You will have to prepare the car for sale, post an add (£60 on Autotrader) and wait for the tire-kickers...
But add the numbers up, I find you didn't come out cheaper in the end.
barbiegirl
3 Jun 151#206
Honestly, I think it's probably the best all round car I've driven. It can go from regular Golf family hatchback to rally monster at the touch of a button. Motorway driving is made hugely more relaxing by the radar controlled Cruise control. Economy (for a 300PS car) is not bad, if you are on a long run. It has all the bits and pieces you could want or need. The handling is just ridiculous. It's fast (but not super super fast - it doesn't keep up with my AMG but then 3.2 V6 with a 'charger vs. 2.0l four pot with a blower, so.....). It's four wheel drive when it needs to be.
I'm sure you've read the 'professional' reviews on line. They usually end with "it's all the car you'll ever need". I'm inclined to agree to the point I'm saddened at the idea of having to hand it back, but then I get a nice new car again...so hey ho!
If you sift through HUKD you'll find this was a big deal - I ended up paying £172 pcm + VAT. Yes you read that correctly (6+23, 5k, XS @ 6p + VAT).
HTH - feel free to PM if you want more information
Barbs
barbiegirl
3 Jun 15#205
And you'll always feel a little dirty. That made me laugh out loud. (I don't disagree BTW)
MaximusRo
3 Jun 15#204
Maybe if you spent your time getting additional training in your field of work instead of trying to make some false economy repairing yourself on old banger, you could earn more? Just a thought, didn't mean to be offensive.
Also, the £9/hour you earn now, is that money in hand? Cause you might actually earn much more but a part you don't see, because it goes into your tax/pension, but it is still money earned, that is yours or will be yours in various tax credits/pension and such.
My point was that not everybody can or have to or should try to become car mechanics/traders just to save some money, as their time would be much better spent in their field of expertise.
I'll give you an example based on my old banger, a Mazda 6 2004, compared to a 2 years lease:
- Road tax: Mazda: £580/2 years. Lease: 0.
- MOT: Mazda: £80/2years + repairs. If it passes MOT. Considering the new rules regarding corrosion, it won't. Lease: 0. Time spent to do the MOTs: too long. Plus repairs: too long again.
- break-down cover: Mazda: £80/2years. Lease: 0.
- Fuel: Mazda: quite a lot, not the best on fuel. Lease: lots of cars achieve 2x better mpg now.
- Tires: I am always finding hard to justify spending on new tires for a car that is near it's end of life and never know if it would pass next MOT. Lease: included.
- safety: well, braking on this car is weak, what do you expect... it's an old car. Tires are so-so. Shock absorbers play an important role in the breaking distance, guess what, they are not new either! How much would you price that?
You get the idea... make your calculations before dismissing leasing. This is for a 200bhp car, with the latest gadgets, but there are even cheaper deals, for as low as £80/months.
karlie88
3 Jun 151#203
Love in leasing? Being able to redline a performance hatchback, taking along some British B roads on a sunny Sunday morning, chucking it into a few corners, hard braking before the corners etc. All in a controlled manner, of course, and within national speed limits.
You hand the car back, then some poor HUKDer who loves owning used cars has to change the brake pads within a few months and their turbo has gone a couple of years down the line...
lovelybeer
3 Jun 15#202
Exactly! If you don't care for a new car, doesn't mean that this deal isn't good.
A car isn't used the minute you turn the engine on. How else do they check it works before delivery?!
lovelybeer
3 Jun 15#201
Because, there isn't a large market for renting such things. But it exists. Heard of Brighthouse? "Rent-to-own retail chain offering home electronics, domestic appliances and furniture."
The market for renting cars is huge. That's why it's a competitive market.
Renting from Brighthouse is not as competitive. Reasons? People don't often sell TV's and sofas after two-three years. If we were all as materialistic on such goods - like cars - we'd see a competitive marketplace.
The rule is valid, but doesn't mean it is easily applied in day-to-day life. It is in business. And a lot of people on here understand that - so can see why it's relevant to this car deal. Instead of picking holes in the facts of depreciation, focus on that :smiley:
dean_brfc
3 Jun 151#200
Comparing a car with a car.
The worth of "new" is a subjective and personal thing. Your new car becomes used the minute you turn the engine on.
zermattbusby
3 Jun 151#199
That's my Mrs out then :neutral_face:
lovelybeer
3 Jun 15#198
New car versus used car? MADNESS. Who would do such a thing? On HUKD, of all places?!
dean_brfc
3 Jun 15#197
It's relevant because your argument for promoting this deal is that you should rent items that depreciate.
Let's ignore my puerile comment about underpants.
Why don't people rent their furniture and electrical goods if renting is best?
This might sound irrelevant, but the answer might give you a clue as to why not everyone wants to lease...and it's not because they're too stupid to understand the financial side of things.
grimboj2
3 Jun 15#183
Not sure why most people would want this. Not only is a niche car - 3dr hot hatch - but loans are at 3% which means for this monthly fee you could own a used 3dr 208 outright at the end of the lease period and leverage that toward owning something even better, eventually working your way up to owning a brand new 208 GTI outright if you so wished.
karlie88 to grimboj2
3 Jun 15#196
First of all, I don't think you could buy a used 208 on finance for the same deposit/monthly payments on a similar term.
Second of all, you're comparing a used car with a new car? :confused:
2003bluecat
3 Jun 151#195
Yeah good point, probably worth waitin guntil the final month of the lease before repiring smaller things.
The general rule for leasing is to treat it like you would your own car: you'd pay for repairs on your fully owned car as well, but probably wouldn't care much for stone chips and a minor ding. I personally wait for a few to be incurred and get them sorted at once for economies of scale :smiley:
numptyj
3 Jun 15#193
has anyone got the link for the document that breaksdown what standards lease providers look in regards to bodywork/alloy damage upon return at the end of the term?
It says things like scratches can be up to 1-2cm etc (I've plucked that figure off the top of my head) but if you've seen the document you'll know what I'm talking about!
I know its been posted in threads countless times but I dont have the link.
BarryRiley
3 Jun 15#192
Your entire lengthy point is rather invalid as you can't buy a Peugeot 208 for £3200 as you seem to state that you can in your opening line. Also, if your bothered about MPG and tax and yet also want a fast car you're always going to end up compromising. And the Peugeot is exactly that - a huge compromise.
dean_brfc
3 Jun 15#191
I agree with you.
In fact I did something similar. Bought an immaculate Mini for £7k a couple of years ago. Probably worth about £5k now. Sailed through two MOTs, had a major service, other than that hasn't been anywhere near a garage.
I can afford something better now but I love the little thing. It's mine. Where's the love in leasing eh?
lovelybeer
3 Jun 15#190
It's a general rule for renting. If you can't find something to rent, don't blame me. I can rattle of things to rent if you like, but it's not relevant to this deal. The principle of renting a depreciating asset, however, is relevant.
Resale is not ignored on used vehicles, as I pointed out: they still depreciate (circa 30% a year average), and this is reflected in the risk vs reward argument. If you have a star car, excellent - minimal costs involved! But your cash is still tied up regardless.
£166 p/m for lease vs loan, well, if you can find finance that is cheaper than a lease on a new car over the same time period, you should post it as a deal, as it will be scorching hot :smiley: Otherwise your principle is correct. But finance is usually a lot more expensive than leasing - even more so on used cars (interest rates).
grimboj2
3 Jun 151#189
This car will not depreciate £3,000 in 18 months, I think that's the key piece of information here. If I go out and buy a hatchback tomorrow for £6,000 then it will depreciate £1,000 in 18 months. Unless my emotional wellbeing depended on having a brand new car, I don't see the value.
2003bluecat
3 Jun 15#188
Re damage to lease cars - if comparing lease with owing, damage to an owned car will reduce the resale value therefore increasing depreciation and the cost of ownership. So it makes no odds to point it out on a lease deal FOR COMPARISON, but people do need to be aware that they will have to pay for repairs before handing it back.
Re affording repayments - I think the benefit here is that there are no surprises, costs are fixed. If you cant afford the repayments then you should NEVER take out the credit. I guess you could lose your job leading to financial problems, but then you could end up with a massive used car repair bill and not afford that, so there are potential financial pitfalls to both.
Re owning at the end- good point, for these repayments over 24 months you would be able to borrow around £3000. Then the car would need no further repayments, but potentially more additional costs in maintenance.
lovelybeer
3 Jun 15#187
I'm sure most people are aware of the benefits/risks of owning a car. However, your points:
Most cars depreciate at a 30% p/a basis. Not all, but most - when driven and serviced typically. This is how most businesses account for ownership on PPE.
Many leases require a small admin fee and only 1 month deposit up front. Small lump sum, agreed, but not the full cost of the vehicle in advance.
GAP is not mandatory on leasing. Check out the insurance ombudsman - it's not even legal for them to enforce you take it out. I have checked. They suggest you do, however, but you don't have to take it. You are at risk, of course.
Work purposes - lease deals are not restrictive to only x miles - many deals can be found for higher mileage requirements - the principles on leasing are still 100% valid for those who want new cars. 20k miles a year from new, will still be efficient compared to buying outright.
When handing back, your lease firm should adhere to leasing with BVRLA. If they don't, buyer beware. BVRLA set guidance on cosmetic damage that is very lenient. Check it out. Private buyers are less likely to be as forgiving. http://www.bvrla.co.uk/
Modifications...well, that's personal preference. I wouldn't dream of them. It is for a certain demographic who enjoy that sort of thing and 99% of those people don't buy new to modify. Always exception to the rule, however.
Tyres, yes that's valid. But service packages can be added to lease deals to cover this for additional monthly payments. I have a service deal that is £300 over the 20k miles term of the deal. It covers maintenance and tyres over that time, which at a main dealer would be £500 or service charges and £600 for one full set of "original" tyres. That's my scenario, YMMV. But yes, you're right - many stipulate the original tyres. Expect to pay £150 per corner versus £50-£100 for other brands of reputable quality (as an average). Over two years, assuming one full set of tyres at around £75 premium, that's £300 more on a lease.
That £300 would normally pay for most of a service package. No brainer in my opinion, so thanks for pointing it out :smiley:
BarryRiley
3 Jun 15#186
So in your example is the Peugeot London and the Michelan star restaurant?
I understand your point but you're assuming just because something is new it's automatically better than something used. This is only ever the case with underwear. Certainly a used VW is infinitely better than a new Peugeot.
Not a bad deal though if you don't mind driving a Peugeot. You'll forever be quickly adding the words "it's a GTI though" every time someone asks you what you drive. And you'll always feel a little dirty.
Rom
3 Jun 15#185
There's just a like button ya know...
dean_brfc
3 Jun 15#184
You can rent furniture. You can rent televisions and computers. These services have been around for ages. In fact, a lot of companies offering these services died out (remember Radio Rentals?) because people chose to own stuff instead, since it's is usually preferable (if only for emotional rewards) than renting.
Cash flow is king for businesses, not people. People are more complex.
And anyway, let's assume you were right about not being able to rent things. That would you mean you just invented a rule that is impossible to follow - by your own admittance! To follow your rule, what exactly are you suggesting people rent? Other than cars obviously.
Either way, this whole argument is ignoring resale value of vehicles. If I purchase a vehicle now that will be worth £3000 less in 18 months, then financially it is the same. If you use finance then it's also the same in terms of cash flow.
What's the difference between paying £166 a month for a lease and £166 a month to finance a loan? There isn't one.
andrisan10
3 Jun 15#182
All positive comments about this deal so i have applied for one myself. Thanks everyone
lovelybeer
3 Jun 153#181
It's NOT a stupid rule. If you *can* rent something that depreciates, it is common sense. The fact that you CAN'T rent computers, furniture etc, does not mean that it is a stupid rule. It means that there isn't a market for renting underpants and sofas. There is a market, for renting/leasing cars.
Similarly, businesses have options to lease more things than the standard consumer, so that means the rule applies. Many businesses rent, rather than buy, due to how they can report things on the balance sheet and see cash benefits. The same is not always applicable to the general consumer, but cash flow is king. If you can successfully argue against this, consider yourself a revolutionary economist and go fetch a Nobel Prize.
Nobody has said that this lease will impress anyone (you're obviously bothered by a brand - good for you)
Good for you on being a risk-taker. We need more people like you, or lease deals wouldn't exist - my heartfelt thanks go out to you.
tgill00
3 Jun 15#180
How do you find the Golf R i'm very tempted. What lease deal did you go for?
118luke
3 Jun 15#179
Can we have that a bit more balanced please?? Rather than merely PRO leasing...
* This is a NEW car, not used Correct
* Depreciation on a new car bought outright will be MORE than what the lease cost is over 18 months on this car. Correct (usually)
* No registration fee to pay on the car's first year of tax correct, as the owner is the lease company
* No VED to pay on new leased car correct
* Used cars a bit older will need MOT only cars that a 3+ years older
* Both old and new will need a service! correct, though very old cars will often be MUCH cheaper to service (but more unreliable)
* Old cars ... ALSO DEPRECIATE! Good god -no surprise there, so don't ignore it Correct, but exponentially less than a brand new car
* Buying a used car for £3-£4k requires £3-£4k of cash up-front (i.e. NOW!). That is money you need to either save, or tie up in your vehicle. A risk - especially if your valuation of your car is not what someone else is prepared to pay. It works both ways, however! A lease also requires cash up front as a non-refundable deposit/admin fees.
* Leased cars (new, I might add!) spread costs out over the term of the lease. This is called cash-flow. This is fundamental to business and life in general. Smooth cash flow, means a smooth life. No bottle-necks. Fine as long as you can afford the repayments in a years time!
* Both new/old need insurance Correct
* Old car bought outright means as much mileage as you like, but increased likelihood of repairs required for incremental mileage correct
* You can sell your used/owned outright car at any time. A lease is a contract. A contract is legally binding. They're not easy to get out of. Buyer beware. correct
* Both cars can make use of GAP insurance. correct, though if you own the car you don't need GAP, if you lease it, its usually MANDATORY
* Used cars are not the most recent model in many cases. Some people don't care and view cars as a simple tool. Others may require to be in a newer vehicle for work purposes. People have different wants and needs.correct, as people using for work purposes will often find the mileage is too restricting on Lease deals. ******Other factors you forgot to mention******
* Any damage that is done to the lease car will be charged for upon return. Please be careful in supermarket car parks!
* There are usually clauses that state you must use parts that are of equal specification (e.g premium tyres) upon returning
* If you buy, you OWN the car - you can do what you like to it (modifications/upgrades etc). You cannot modify a lease car in any way, shape or form
* If you buy, once the car is paid off (if bought on finance), you then feel the full benefits of owning as you wont have large monthly outgoings to pay for the car anymore.
Golden rules for everyone:
If you can't afford the payments, don't do it!
If you don't want a NEW car, don't do it!
If you want to take the risks on buying a used car and the associated benefits of it being reliable and costing next to nil to maintain, before selling onwards, don't do it!
If you don't understand, don't do it!
ALSO:
If you are worried about possible damage to the lease car, don't do it!
If you have concerns about your financial stability, don't do it! Platinum rules for everyone:
If it appreciates, BUY IT.
If it depreciates, RENT IT.
n.b. there are occasional exceptions to the rule. Cars are not really one of those exceptions.
ALSO:
If you are a high mileage user, DON'T RENT it. If you're still unsure:
Think of a holiday. You spend £2000+. At the end of it, you don't get to keep the hotel to sell on. Nor the swimming pool, aircraft or airport. You have nothing to show for it except a tan if you're lucky. You have had the benefit of enjoyment.
A car is not dissimilar. Lease deals are great for people who want new cars and don't want to tie up vast sums of cold, hard cash up-front. Plain and simple facts. Easy.If you STILL don't get it:
Log out, and don't try and reply. Ever. On a lease deal. There is no hope for you.tldr; these deals get hot for a reason. If you don't understand, put some time aside and try to, before spouting utter nonsense and garbage.
Final note: I agree with much of what you say, but there are Pro's and Cons to both buying and renting that need to be pointed out fully, not just the advantages of renting/disadvantages of owning.
dean_brfc
3 Jun 15#178
That's a stupid rule!!
The only thing that costs money that really appreciates is property. Everything else starts losing value when you buy it.
Do you rent your computers, phones, furniture, clothes, tools, crockery....I could go on like this for a while, but I'm sure you get the point.
Essentially lease deals are for people who like to play it safe. You get a bog standard car (new or not, you're not impressing anyone with a Peugeot hatchback) but you know what it's going to cost over X months.
For other people who are happy to play the risk/reward game, they know they could potentially get a much better car. For a lot of people, servicing etc comes secondary to how nice the car actually is. Personally I'll take the small risk of buying a dud to potentially get a really good car for the same money.
blanka
3 Jun 151#177
Lovelybeer... Very well said. As long as you don't get into debt and financially your sound, able and capable. Life is about enjoying yourself. Otherwise what's the point. Previously Id never touch a lease car, prefer to save my own money and buy a car outright. However getting older, wiser and seeing how life can be cut short. I am very tempted by this deal and for 18 months I can have a nice top spec car, that doesn't effect my house renovations or family life.
barbiegirl
3 Jun 151#176
Another excellent post.
barbiegirl
3 Jun 15#175
+1. My '02 AMG sporadically throws faults - some of which are cheap and some of which are eye-watering (new hydraulic pump for your roof Sir? £1000 for the part please..). My Golf R cost exactly £206 per month, regardless...
aseddon130
3 Jun 15#174
Peugeot drivers ...
barbiegirl
3 Jun 15#173
Excellent. Well done, great post.
R6Nick
3 Jun 15#166
I've only really started looking at lease deals on here but there seems to be a pattern, are people not allowed luxuries? can you imagine if all threads were the same?
Smartphone - cold, you can get a nokia for a tenner
Smart Watch - cold you can get a casio for £6.99 that does the same thing
Branded T shirt - cold, can get one in Primark for £2, but wait that's even colder due to slave labour
Soft Toilet paper - cold, use yesterdays tabloid
There is a big difference between Need and Want, some people just want (what they perceive to be better) and are fortunate enough to have the finances to do it, let them enjoy it. I would have loved the Audi lease that came up, but its above my pay grade, so regardless of the depreciation, its great for those after it.
M_z to R6Nick
3 Jun 151#172
Car threads don't bring out the best in people do they? Many of the arguments I have read above completely overstate the cases for either buying or leasing, often simply abusing anyone that sees things a bit differently.
I dont know why people take someone else's differing opinion on the matter in such a personal way? It cant be good for them.
There are obviously pros and cons to different approaches, people have different needs and preferences too.
lovelybeer
3 Jun 1567#171
This sort of thread really gets me moist :smile:
For those who understand lease deals: Great deal, right? Might not be a suitable car for you personally, but no denying the financials! Good work, have a gold star. Feel content that you aren't being completely backward in refusing to understand differing points of view.
For those who DON'T understand leasing (and that appears to be a LOT of you):
* This is a NEW car, not used
* Depreciation on a new car bought outright will be MORE than what the lease cost is over 18 months on this car.
* No registration fee to pay on the car's first year of tax
* No VED to pay on new leased car
* Used cars a bit older will need MOT
* Both old and new will need a service!
* Old cars ... ALSO DEPRECIATE! Good god -no surprise there, so don't ignore it
* Buying a used car for £3-£4k requires £3-£4k of cash up-front (i.e. NOW!). That is money you need to either save, or tie up in your vehicle. A risk - especially if your valuation of your car is not what someone else is prepared to pay. It works both ways, however!
* Leased cars (new, I might add!) spread costs out over the term of the lease. This is called cash-flow. This is fundamental to business and life in general. Smooth cash flow, means a smooth life. No bottle-necks.
* Both new/old need insurance
* Old car bought outright means as much mileage as you like, but increased likelihood of repairs required for incremental mileage
* You can sell your used/owned outright car at any time. A lease is a contract. A contract is legally binding. They're not easy to get out of. Buyer beware.
* Both cars can make use of GAP insurance.
* Used cars are not the most recent model in many cases. Some people don't care and view cars as a simple tool. Others may require to be in a newer vehicle for work purposes. People have different wants and needs.
Golden rules for everyone:
If you can't afford the payments, don't do it!
If you don't want a NEW car, don't do it!
If you want to take the risks on buying a used car and the associated benefits of it being reliable and costing next to nil to maintain, before selling onwards, don't do it!
If you don't understand, don't do it!
Platinum rules for everyone:
If it appreciates, BUY IT.
If it depreciates, RENT IT.
n.b. there are occasional exceptions to the rule. Cars are not really one of those exceptions.
If you're still unsure:
Think of a holiday. You spend £2000+. At the end of it, you don't get to keep the hotel to sell on. Nor the swimming pool, aircraft or airport. You have nothing to show for it except a tan if you're lucky. You have had the benefit of enjoyment.
A car is not dissimilar. Lease deals are great for people who want new cars and don't want to tie up vast sums of cold, hard cash up-front. Plain and simple facts. Easy.
If you STILL don't get it:
Log out, and don't try and reply. Ever. On a lease deal. There is no hope for you.
tldr; these deals get hot for a reason. If you don't understand, put some time aside and try to, before spouting utter nonsense and garbage.
nrps1
3 Jun 15#170
Can anyone confirm the exact specs of this, and if it is indeed the 2015 facelift model? I've looked on the Pug website at their pdf and it seems to suggest a lower model than the GTi. I'd imagine this deal is due to the lesser specced version with the lower bhp perhaps? I also love the red/black colour, is that an option for this package?
blue_x
2 Jun 15#52
I remember the days when only minis where he luxury hatchbacks
soldierboy001 to blue_x
3 Jun 15#169
You don't need a great memory to remember the first mini hatchback.
andreasuk
3 Jun 15#168
Im earning basic wages about £8-9 an hour and i wouldnt lease this car. BUT if i earned £20 an hour your explanation makes perfect sense.
dean_brfc
3 Jun 15#167
It depends on what you get.
Let's take Mini as an example. A lot of those cars come with a five year TLC package, which includes servicing. You can get models that will still have that remaining for 18 months, with around 10,000 on the clock, for £10-11k. I'd take a low mileage 2-3 year old Mini over a Peugeot any day.
Personally I would much rather get a good car that cost a lot more brand new than something bland and generic like this one.
Also, remember....£10k was a figure I plucked randomly. Anything you can buy now and sell for £3200 less (minus any finance costs) in 18 months can compete with this deal. Could easily do this with £15k cars
MaximusRo
3 Jun 15#165
And road tax, don't forget road tax, you pay 0 road tax for a leased car.
danny2156
3 Jun 15#164
I'm doing plenty of comparisons, but as soon as I put the leasing company as the owner its making the quote astronomical. Can't be the only person having this issue.
If i purchased a new Peugeot 208 gti now for £20,000, kept if for 6 years and then sold it for a realistic £5000 (probably less?) it would have cost me, in very basic terms, £15000 for that car's ownership - excluding the obvious maintenance, insurance, tax, petrol, etc.
It would need MOT's and possibly additional maintenance in those years as it aged, which would probably increase with time - cambelts, plugs, tyres, etc
Alternatively, in that 6 years, I could take 4 of these lease deals at a total cost of around £13000 - would possibly increase slightly, but not by much.
I could keep the same type of vehicle or even change manufactures and specs. It would always be under warranty, have no MOT costs and would be brand new every 18 months.
The running costs with a new car would probably be cheaper, especially when changed every 18 months
Am I missing something obvious?
And, in an extremely selfless act, I am letting people buy my 'fully tested' (read that 'redlined in every gear change') 208gti every 18 months :smiley:
Seems like a cracking way to own a new car if that is how you normally motor?
imiskeen
3 Jun 15#161
I run both a lease car for work and a 13 year old sporty type car for the summer. Believe me, the 2002 car is a money pit. It costs me Six to Eight Hundred Pounds a year in maintenance just to run it.(before tyres and MOT) For it's class it's considered a "quality" brand. Running an ageing car is more a labour of love than a life choice on matters that are meaningful, like, the ability to guarantee getting to work on time etc. Considering the need for absolute reliability, I would choose a cheap option like this lease for a guaranteed daily commute every time.
MaximusRo
3 Jun 15#160
Compared to a leased car, it is also costing you extra:
- road tax (every year)
- MOT (every year)
- repairs (as you have no warranty)
- breakdown cover (every year)
- time (is money) to research for the car to buy and to sell later on and deal with the above (MOT it is taking a few good hours)
- safety (definetely a new car will have better breakes)
- fuel (better economy on new cars)
andreasuk
3 Jun 15#159
On the spot!
Read no further.
nd1985
3 Jun 15#158
But then you would be better off with this deal surely? A £10k car will likely need repir work /MOT/ servicing etc over the 18 months as well
soldierboy001
3 Jun 15#157
What is the retained value for one of/this deal after 18 months I'm pretty sure that you would lose more than £3,200 as a trade in during that time so all you are paying for is the lose of value or less.
All arguments as to what else you could buy are just a waste of time because if some one finds this for them then it's a, nearly said a rude word there, good deal.
imiskeen
3 Jun 151#156
Well Spotted. Your right. Damn! But, how do you know that I'm not a Hobbit?
(btw: Yes, I know.) :wink:
m5rcc
3 Jun 15#155
Well it is IMHO. I don't think Peugeot have mate a great GTI since the 306 GTI-6
Picard123
3 Jun 151#154
Yeah, all the motoring journos seem to think the Fez is the better deal.
Still a terrific little hot hatch though that Peugeot.
dean_brfc
3 Jun 152#153
I can see that you had fun there, but it's all nonsense.
What you should have been looking for is cars that would depreciate by roughly £3200 over the same period (perhaps deducting the cost of finance if required).
i.e buy a £10k used car and sell it for £7k in 18 months.
That's more what people do in reality.
MaximusRo
3 Jun 155#152
I haven't seen one single post from you that makes any sense, and yet here you are, firing them one after the other, in a leasing deal, although you are saying you are not interested in leasing, and yet you post more than the people that are.
You always forget to mention important aspects when comparing costs, wanting a new car it is not just about being a snob. Most people already had their share of second hand cars and know what they involve.
A second hand car costing per year less than this per month? Seriously? The road tax alone would be more than that. On a leased car, road tax is zero, on a second hand car is anything up to 300. And what about MOT? Another £40 but how often will an old car pass it considering the new regulations regarding corrosion and emission and bushes, that are no longer advisories but fails?
And what about warranty? Is your buddy buddy mechanic going to sign a document to warranty the repairs and the car for 2 years (which is the duration of the leasing usually).
And what about tires? With a second hand car, it is easy, you want brand new tyres, you have to buy them, there is no other way, nobody will sell their car right after they put tires on it. And they are the thing that connect you to the road, and helping you not die in an emergency!
some people put a cost on their lifes and the ones of their children, a second hand car, with older tech, older tires, older brakes (that usually under-perform, usually at 60% the initial breaking efficiency, which is already lower compared to the efficiency of a new high performance car), all these combined, often results in 20m or more breaking distance.
Just give it a rest man, people got your point, for you, a second hand car is better, as along as you said you are willing to study how to repair a car, how to buy a car, how to sell it... some people are paid £20/hour in their respective field and don't want to repair cars, or deal with dubious sellers, and then with dubious buyers... Between researching buying options, researching what would make a good second hand car, servicing it after buying, and then posting an add, paying for an add (it is £60 for an add on Autotrader by the way! Why not add that to the costs??), and then dealing with buyers, I would rather prefer having a new car. What is one supposed to do, take time off work to meet buyers?
There are also other advantages, like having free breakdown cover included, better fuel economy, better handling, better and more toys on the car (look at the sat nav in this deal, I know I would be getting the latest maps and technology) etc..
You were already educated by others that you can earn another £280 during the period for the £3200 you could keep in the bank instead of investing in a second hand car. Add them all up, you will end up paying the same or less, but for a brand new car, much safer, fun to drive, clean, reliable.
Seriously, just skip one lease deal if you can... make it a will power exercise.
blackandamber
3 Jun 15#151
Did anyone receive and email upon application? I filled the form out a few hours ago but have heard nothing, not even to acknowledge a pending decision.
smg1993
3 Jun 15#136
NVS -Rude staff , took 3 days to get back to my initial enquiry ,
VS - Dealt with in a clear and concise manner , got my acceptance back to me very quickly .
I know the whole debate regards set up fees if rife , in my opinon its well worth paying a little more for the serivce @ VS.
Bikerdanny to smg1993
3 Jun 15#150
Tbh I've had a good service off them both so far, NVS did the credit check within a few hours, VS took 2/3 days.
danny2156
3 Jun 15#148
Finance now accepted. Having problems with insurance, was £750 under my name as the owner, then put lease company as owner and it goes to £5000. Any ideas how to get this down??
karlie88 to danny2156
3 Jun 15#149
confused.com, Compare the Meerkat, Go Compare etc. Your premium shouldn't be that high..also remember to go via TCB/Quidco to get a few quid just for running some searches.
karlie88
3 Jun 15#147
What was the difference in mileage from when you bought it at £8k and sold it at £6.8k?
karlie88
3 Jun 15#146
It was mentioned that you'd earn a small amount of interest on £3200.
So what I did was use an example of opening 2 x TSB Plus accounts (one sole and one joint), placing £2000 in one and £1200 in another. Then by using the drip feed method, placing £300 per month into a 6% regular saver.
If you did this over 18 months then you'd earn £270ish gross interest - of course, adjust accordingly if you're a basic/higher rate taxpayer.
R6Nick
3 Jun 15#145
TSB would get you £78 per annum, after Basic Rate Tax, so say £117 after 18 months, based on the max deposit of £2 (that would earn interest)
So the M&S regular saver would net you another £153?
Not disputing, would just like to see how you do it?
AshFlash
3 Jun 156#144
Those people comparing this deal to buying a secondhand car instead - do you also post the same rubbish on threads about deals on new LED TVs?
LED TV deal cold because you could buy a secondhand had 23" CRT telly cheaper?
Or on a deal for a box of Kellogg's Cornflakes? Cold because you could have bought Tesco's own-brand rice crispies cheaper instead?
A deal is a deal if it's the cheapest price for THE SAME ITEM.
Some people seem to suffer from keyboard incontinence and can't just scroll past a deal that's not suited to them.
Instead they have to dribble out some pearls of wisdom which are frankly no help to anyone and would be better kept inside their little heads.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. (Abraham Lincoln)
southlegend
3 Jun 1513#115
I feel like a lot of users on HUKD need to realise that not everyone comes on here to penny pinch on a small budget. A lot people just want to enjoy their money for less....
traileruk to southlegend
3 Jun 152#116
Nail on head.
karlie88 to southlegend
3 Jun 151#121
Agree with the above.
Some users will be in debt whilst others will have £100k+ sitting in the bank. It's a site for everyone to suit everyone's needs.
A great deal on a Merc C63 AMG will be voted hot, as will 20p off some satsumas at Tesco. A Justin Bieber deal on the other hand....
andreasuk to southlegend
3 Jun 151#143
that's it!
pintofwater
3 Jun 15#141
Hi,
This looks like a great deal, have glanced through the thread, and probably being dumb, but would you contact your insurance provider and ask for an 18month quote on a deal like this? Or just do a 12month and ask for an additional 6 months? Or is insurance included ?
ollie87 to pintofwater
3 Jun 151#142
You just insure it normally as-if you owned the car. Then for the second year you move your insurance to your next car.
I'd also advise you get GAP insurance from someone like http://www.ala.co.uk which will cover you the car is written off.
Ian610
3 Jun 15#140
You'd have to pay me to drive a Peugeot, not the other way round.
Terrible cars.
Stevie Badman
3 Jun 15#86
£3200 for 18 months!!! cold
PierremontQuaker to Stevie Badman
3 Jun 15#96
LOL
kingsly79 to Stevie Badman
3 Jun 15#139
Your 1998 Nissan Micra must still be going strong then :-)
s24adm
3 Jun 15#138
It's certainly doable, a few years back I bought a delivery miles VW Polo 1.2 for 8k from a dealer for my wife to learn in (new model imminent, clearing old stock). 18 months later I sold it for 6800 as demand for decent small engined cars had rocketed due to fuel prices etc. On the flip side the Mercedes C220 I traded in against the polo had dropped 6 grand in value in the 18months prior so you win some you lose some, more so the latter with cars lol.
M_z
3 Jun 15#137
Its a matter of attitude to risk though, isn't it?
A used car for £3200 will be either old or high mileage or a low spec crap model, you'll be lucky to get a 1 owner full history car for that price. So, in the best case, after 18 months, you are probably correct. But the worst case is that it goes wrong, you are forced to spend £500 to fix it, then something else goes wrong etc etc - so £166 a month to not have that risk is good value for many people, if they also value a new car on their drive, why not? Its their money.
And I say this as someone who accepts a high level of risk, I tend to buy used high mileage cars, one owner, full history, 4/5 years old. It works for me - but I know that I could get a massive garage bill at some point.
M_z
3 Jun 155#135
Terrible deal. I make my own car in the garage every few years, cuts out the middle man and saves a fortune.
3mercer
3 Jun 15#134
I like you.
Hot deal - perfect to fill the gap for me whilst moving house.
karlie88
3 Jun 15#133
So buy a used car for £3,200 and drive it for 15,000 miles - in 18 months time I can sell it for £2,800?
Please post this type of car and I'm sure it will become the hottest deal of all time - £400 for 15,000 miles of driving is well worth the money.
ReflexReact
3 Jun 15#129
Voted cold.
Sick of this hotukleases crap these days.
karlie88 to ReflexReact
3 Jun 152#132
Says the person who posted a deal for a brand new Nissan Qashqai and thus, should know the benefits of leasing a brand new car:
What you are perhaps failing to appreciate is that if you spend £3200 on a car, in 18 months you'll have a car worth probably £2700-£2800, depending on usage etc. With this deal, you'll need another £3200 for the next year and a half, or whatever.
Even with higher fuel consumption and paying higher tax for 18 months, you're still likely considerably better off. Also quite likely can get considerably cheaper insurance.
Always amused when people decide to buy a new car to 'save money', when likely they could keep using their old 'less efficient' car for considerably less 'Total Cost of Ownership'.
Sure, if you want the status of driving around in a new car (even if it is a fast shopping cart), fair enough - but don't try and justify the choice with it being a money-saver.
nicholls22
3 Jun 15#130
Buying a used car is pot luck. You can get lucky and spend nothing but the purchase price and run it or you can be unlucky and get lemon.
I bought a Octavia VRS for £1200 banged some new tyres on it. So call it £1500, and its needed nothing but a service since 2 years owndership.
That said, it will be due a cambelt end of this year which cost around £300 with a service.
barbiegirl
3 Jun 15#128
good points but how much time do you spend trying to find and purchase a road worthy car for £1000? How much is your time worth? How often do they need a big repair? and so on...
crazyal
3 Jun 15#127
What I find hilarious is why people are comparing this deal with a used car.
Clearly those people would never consider a lease deal and prefer their motors fully-owned with an MOT and all the problems that comes with - and that's fine and everything, it's called an opinion and I respect that, but what the hell has it got to do with this deal? Leasing and owning are 2 seperate things. What is there not to understand here?
This is a hot deal with regards leasing and should be voted as such. Not voted cold because of it's total irrelevance to buying something outright.
Voted Hot becasue it's a great lease deal.
Wildman
3 Jun 151#126
Rough numbers from a quick search on auto trader so please take with a pinch of salt:
So for a new car it beats the depreciation, without the outlay, therefore hot in my book. This does not even take into account interest in your bank if you have the money, or interest on the loan if you don't. Or the favorable mileages listed.
If you're looking at purchasing cars over 3 years old, that's a completely different circumstance and does not apply to this deal.
ollie87
3 Jun 15#125
Under warranty for three years *shrug*.
nicholls22
3 Jun 15#124
If people didn't buy new or lease cars as much, used cars would be more expensive. I'm not a fan of leasing cars but I'm voting hot for two reasons...
1. My point above
2. £3200 for a BRAND NEW CAR (allbeit 18 months) That you won't loose anything on, need to spend a penny on apart maintenance and wear and tear. I'd be surprised if you even need tyres if you stick within 10k allowance.
tazza84
3 Jun 15#120
What's the chances of this deal being around in August?
karlie88 to tazza84
3 Jun 15#123
Highly unlikely.
Delivery of these cars is likely to be around August though...
sq999
3 Jun 15#122
Sorry you're right. Forgot to add it's French car with a limit on how far you drive.
s24adm
3 Jun 152#119
One key point you're missing in your comparisons - in each of those other options you still have a car after 18months to sell on or continue to use, with a lease you hand it back with nothing to show for your 3 grand.
edit* i'll add I'm not against leasing in general but you can't really compare like to like for 2nd hand cars. i.e. I normally have a decent weekend car and a "run-around" for going to/from work (and a classic car for summer and one for the wife... anyway) the run-around almost always costs me circa £1000, I'll run it for a year then more often than not sell it on again for the same money or very close to it. once or twice I've even made a profit (including mot costs etc.) if you can find a good one cheap enough initially.
keysmesh
3 Jun 15#118
This was posted a few days ago!! Tempted me then too, wish it would do one and stop making me consider it!
sq999
3 Jun 151#114
Oh great 3 grand for a car I have to give back again
barbiegirl to sq999
3 Jun 15#117
See above or shut up. You just make yourself sound stupid.Really stupid.
Sp0oner
3 Jun 15#113
Lol good effort for trying though :wink:
creatz
3 Jun 151#112
Some of these comments are hilarious; first of all this is a great deal regardless of your opinions on leasing. Personally I don't lease, however this is tempting even to me. Why preach to everybody to purchase used cars? Where will you get your used car if nobody ever bought new?
'Rent depreciating assets' - this car would probably depreciate more than the cost of this deal over this period. It's peace of mind, covered by warranty, and a monthly payment that people can afford. Plus it's very nice to have a new car with all the latest tech.
Hot deal OP, vote from me
heisenbergraul
3 Jun 15#101
I cannot comprehend how this is a good deal? I mean I can outright buy a similar car maybe a few years old for the same price. Here, I need to give it back.
ollie87 to heisenbergraul
3 Jun 151#102
Cool. That's not a new car though.
hero9989 to heisenbergraul
3 Jun 15#111
If you've found a good deal, post it for everyone else. Get lost or stop being a douche.
supergran
3 Jun 15#110
Do providers like these generally give an offer to buy at the end of the lease and if so, is it usually at a reasonable price?
May be a cheaper way of owning the car from new outright if that's your thing.
ollie87
3 Jun 1571#109
I'm gonna have a look now for the idiots who can't handle it. See what I can buy for £3,200 that does 0-60mph in under 7 seconds, does 47mpg or more, costs £130 or less a year to tax, and has a 5 Star NCAP rating.
Oh wait, it's done 160,000 miles. Oh wait it costs £225 to tax a year. Oh wait it only does 42mpg. Oh wait it's only got 4 NCAP stars instead of 5. Oh wait it costs a million pounds to service and will need an MOT doing. Hmm, it's also a 12 year old BMW, people will probably think you're a drug dealer and probably not even a very good one.
Oh wait, it only does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds. Oh wait it only does 33mpg. Oh wait it costs £290 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait this model is so old it doesn't even have an NCAP rating.
0-60 in 6.4 seconds? Check! Oh wait, it only does 31mpg. Oh wait it costs £290 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait this model is so old it doesn't even have an NCAP rating. And it needs a load of work doing. We nailed the speed though!
0-60 in 6.9? Check! Oh wait it only does 34mpg. Oh wait it costs £265 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait it only has 4 NCAP stars.
****! Sorry, I give up.
SilverBandit
3 Jun 15#108
Something else to bear in mind when considering the initial deposit size (1month, 3 month, 6month, etc) the cost over 18months is practically the same but monthly payments are less the larger your deposit. On my sister's last two lease deals she has continued to rent the car after the end of the initial term at the same monthly cost, meaning the deal becomes even better value if you have placed a larger deposit. (I am aware that this does not always happen, but thought I'd mention it.)
karlie88
3 Jun 1513#107
£3 for a sandwich?! And what do you have to show for it at the end? Trapped wind...
Go and buy a decent used sandwich from a colleague at work for a fraction of the price. Granary bread tends to be the most reliable and filling...
barbiegirl
3 Jun 153#106
It's ridiculous isn't it? £1m for a house in London I could by 10 in Blackpool for that. Yes, but it's not in London. Same sort of stupid comment. £100 a head for lunch at a Michelin 2 star - I could feed myself for £3 with a sandwich. I could go on...
Critical thinking needs to be taught at school IMO.
barbiegirl
3 Jun 151#105
They don't , therealjhohnpeat just talks rubbish, that's all. Including comparing a new car to a used one, implying it's some sort of fair comparison or insight. You get them on every lease thread. As sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, there'll be someone on HUKD on a car lease deal telling people they could run second hand cars for less. Comparing apples with pears and forgetting how much people like the surety of NOT having to go to the cheap garage, worry about breakdowns & bills, MOTs, sorting out road tax, depreciation, blah blah blah.
It's got really boring.
marathonic
3 Jun 151#104
Just so I fully understand your post, you are saying "don't lease your car because you have to service it, put oil and other consumables in it and change the tyres when they're below the legal limit"?
I own my car outright but am considering a lease - but silly me has been doing all these things with my used car too. I hadn't realised they weren't really needed and I have been wasting my money.
blanka
3 Jun 15#103
Tempted by this offer as if purchased new, depreciation would be much more. Yes I understand a cheap second hand car is cheaper. But a new top spec car is a treat that most can't afford to buy outright. Life is about living and doing a lease deal isn't going crazy. The only thing that puts me off is the 8 weeks plus wait for delivery of this car. Heat.
zermattbusby
3 Jun 15#100
Spot on
mapexslayer
3 Jun 15#99
It's a Peugeot. Cold.
djh1975
3 Jun 15#98
I had a new 206 once where the screws from the drivers seat came loose. The seat eventually came out altogether and the dealership sent me back on the road with a seat that was not attached to the car. I wouldn't buy a Peugeot again, if they gave it away.
118luke
3 Jun 15#81
10k PA - too low for me. Barely enough miles for commuting let alone personal miles. Thats the problem with all the lease deals posted on here - the mileage seems to be average or less.
karlie88 to 118luke
3 Jun 15#97
Average annual mileage per car in the UK is less than 8k...so 10k should be sufficient for the majority.
SpoonyBoy
3 Jun 15#95
the reliability of any car is unknown whether it be new or used. however the new car will have a warranty to cover potentially expensive repairs.
there are other advantages to a new car like lower road tax and better fuel economy. offset these against the lease price and it's cheaper still.
I've always bought older cars outright and they do cost less month on month but until the depriciation hits rock bottom it is costing you month on month.
this calculator is good, I've tried it with my 2nd hand bought outright car vs lease car deals and the difference per month is not much (yet I'm driving a 7 year old 60k car....not a new one!!!)
Very good point Mr gazebo, the old thread just has the serious buyer like me there now.
nd1985
3 Jun 15#93
I already have one, but it's tempting me to get another for the wife
Incredible deal, although 18months is an odd term length
EvilGazebo
3 Jun 151#92
Bikerdanny: it was good of you to start a new thread and it looks like a couple of people may now get this deal who would have missed the older thread. But I suspect you may now be seeing why I wasn't keen to do it myself! :smiley: It's just fresh meat for the trolls and the patronising bangernomics crew. Old threads tend to thin out to a genial peaceful discussion amongst buyers of whatever it is.....
jbmnic
3 Jun 15#91
Hot... If only I could find a reason to get one! !!
otterboxer
3 Jun 15#90
This is an obvs advert not really a deal someone's found out and about. Hukd is going to the dogs.
R1cbm
3 Jun 15#89
Not a bad deal. Would personally not ever buy French cars. They are just not as well made as others.. I even had this confirmed to me when talking to a recovery guy who works for Green Flag - Steer clear of french cars...... when I asked about the most recovered makes. LOL
imiskeen
2 Jun 15#6
^^ Your right, you need to get a personal quote, got mine a couple of weeks back now for £145 a month. fee's took it just over 3K mark actually, just double checked. I think its a slightly lower spec than OP's though.? The low deposit on these deals appeals more to me as well.
mudisoft to imiskeen
3 Jun 15#88
you make poor decisions when it comes to apostrophes #grammarpolice
david10666
3 Jun 154#87
The rule of thumb is to rent depreciating assets and buy appreciating assets
so if you are after a new car and have a spare £20k don't spend it on a new car keep saving and buy a house
ijw0161
3 Jun 151#78
Aren't these French?
rodman to ijw0161
3 Jun 15#85
who cares?
nimachka
3 Jun 15#83
There must be some amazingly low mileage ex lease cars out there, as we have seen many of these type deals? This deal would see a 18 month old car with just 15k on the clock, barely used and a decent second hand car, so would it be better to, look for one of these and own it outright?
cbr900rrt to nimachka
3 Jun 15#84
get down to a car auctions plenty of these ex lease cars going through :smiley: but you need to buy out right. I will look at a deal like this when my eldest starts Uni, peace of mind for a few years of her driving life while I wont have to repair anything that goes wrong, and just keep my older cars and bikes for myself.
MY GF's Son spends over £400 PM on public transport to get to work 15 miles away and can take an hr each way, 4 hrs at weekends to pick his boy up, ill be talking to him again about a deal like this.
PhoenixRising
3 Jun 151#82
This is getting heat as it's obviously a hot deal... Getting a bank loan to buy a car? That's the definition of crazy. Never buy something you can't afford. Buying a car on credit card is another matter but you'll still need to pay off the balance as a lump sum.
I hope you do realise that a car depreciates so as soon as you drive a new car off the forecourt, it would've lost thousands. A new car like this 208 GTi would probably lose around 35% of its value, if not more, in the first 2 years and that would be more than what the lease payments would be.
yrreb88
3 Jun 151#79
Sorry, I jumped the gun a bit there. I sort of came to that conclusion because you said you don't need to spend £5-10K implying you can spend less to get a decent car. You won't find new cars at that price so I can assumed you meant a used car that costs less than £5K. I'd still need the cost of the used car up front and I think you will struggle to get a 5 year old car with less than 40k miles for much less than £3,500.
New cars aren't immune of course but they are less likely and you are covered by warranty regardless.
I don't understand that logic at all. Yes it's worked for 5 years but you don't always know the entire history of a car such as how it was driven, maintained etc. There's also the fact that things wear over time, the next 5 years are using parts that have been used for 5 years already. You can't say that their durability and reliability will be just as good as a result of that and if it does go wrong, the savings you made on a used car start to dwindle.
therealjohnpeat
3 Jun 15#77
Yeah, just to be clear I'm not comparing apples and oranges - just highlighting that apples kill some people (cyanide in the pips y'know) and oranges are another option you have ;0
Eyes wide open - wallet carefully prepared ;0
sjm1993
3 Jun 15#76
Over 3k for just 18 months? Doesn't seem anywhere near as good as a deal as I've seen posted multiple times before. Had it been for at least 2 years then maybe it would seem more worthwhile.
eset12345
3 Jun 15#75
I'm making no comparisons whatsoever, and I don't now how you've come to that conclusion, based on what I've said.
But as you've brought it up, how is a new car more reliable than say a 5 year old, 40,000 mile car? is the new somehow magically better and wont suddenly break down? are new cars immune from having serious problems from day one? id go as far to say the 5 year old car would be more reliable, due to the fact its been used for 5 years and 40,000 miles without issue, has gone through 2 MOTs and multiple services. where as the new car is an unknown entity, and although it may have been built to spec, has had a PDI, its still unknown as to whether its going to be reliable at that point.
Bikerdanny
3 Jun 15#74
People should note what johnpeat is saying you will have to pay for tyres,brakes and any damage - I know I've got a PCP car ATM. However if you do 15k over 18months you'll struggle to wear out anything other than a set of front tyres - even they might not need replacing through.
Bikerdanny
3 Jun 15#73
Think what you must, but karlie88 and evilgazebo both didn't want to post the deal so I posted it on there behalf for HUKD users who CBA reading the old thread to find the Nationalvehiclesolutions deal/link.
Bikerdanny
3 Jun 15#72
Its 10k per year :smiley: and even over that is only 6p per mile so £60 for 1000 miles over.
Bikerdanny
3 Jun 15#71
It's a fantastic car and a close second to the fiesta ST in terms of driving dynamics, but for comfort, interior and gadgets I think the Peugeot thrumps the ford. BTW the ford was my original first choice but is over £1.5k more to lease over the same period !!!!
h0tdeal
3 Jun 15#70
Great deal and well spotted OP
Voted hot - as its a great deal when you factor in buying a new car.
However - it's not for me I am far too frugal/tight for a deal like this.
We bought a 4 year old peugeot 207 4 years ago for £3900 it has been a good reliable car and if I sold it now I would probably get £2250 back - so in my case its cost me £1650 over 4 years - about £450/500 a year after road fund (£30 a year and tyres)
However, if I could afford it and was less frugal I would accept this deal no doubt about it whatsoever - a mate of mine relates lease deals to car hire and this car would be costing less than £6 per day over the 18 months obviously insurance on top of that figure for us I would guestimate 500 ish to insure so an extra 1.50 on top of that... £7.50 a day to lease this caris an absolute bargain and I'm nearly talking myself into it.
incredible deal
yrreb88
2 Jun 152#69
So now we are comparing a brand new car with a £500-5000 used car with unknown history, varying amounts of milage and unknown future reliability?
Seems fair.
therealjohnpeat
2 Jun 15#68
PCPs run for 2-3 years and in that time there's plenty of consumables you could need which aren't part of a warranty - and that's before you deal with scratches/dents/seats torn and other things which can happen...
Their cars had vandal damage (they can't ignore it, it must be fixed before the car is returned or you'll get a HUGE bill), needed the brakes doing, one needed an exhaust section (damaged by hitting something) and one had a badly kerbed wheel. I think one of the cars also had a "pollution alarm" (Peugeot) which was a small fortune to fix at a dealer but there are ways of making it disappear for a while ;0
Maybe they're careless but this lease is just for the car, you will have consumables/servicing - tyres if you drive it as it's intended - and anything you damage to cover at least.
therealjohnpeat
2 Jun 151#67
I didn't say if I was or wasn't - what I want isn't really the point - I just wanted to highlight the downsides which aren't always in the blurb at the top of the page. If you like the idea of 'car hire' then it's fine, just be sure you have the money and can live with the limitations - oh, and don't pretend £3200 for 18 months car hire (excluding maintenance) is cheap!!
The "second hand cars can be expensive" thing is often an excuse people use when they really just want a 'new car' too. Sure, second-hand cars can end-up costing money but the majority of big bills come to people who buy unwisely or ignore minor faults until they become major ones - they get attached to the car instead of knowing when to bail - that can be expansive but dealer cars/warranties etc. all cost money so...
Neobrown
2 Jun 15#66
Oh right, thanks
karlie88
2 Jun 15#65
10k per annum so you can do 15k miles.
yellowbadger
2 Jun 152#64
Comment
If they have new cars then why do they have to have expensive work done on them. New cars are covered by warranties, another advantage with these lease deals on new cars. It's hassle free motoring in a brand new car.
karlie88
2 Jun 151#63
Clearly not a savvy saver...:wink:
A combination of TSB's 5% current account and M&S Bank's /First Direct's 6% regular saver would achieve this.
Creatzy
2 Jun 15#62
And as mentioned in my previous comment that this had been discussed and posted in the comments on the early thread, heat hunter
Cold from me
Neobrown
2 Jun 15#61
Just 10k miles for 18months :confused:
I hardly drive long distances, unless we go away for the weekend. However even I do 10k a year alone
therealjohnpeat
2 Jun 151#60
Let me tell you a story which I think encapsulates this issue - I know 2 people, newly living together, both work in the same call centre, both have new/PCPd cars, both cars needed work they couldn't really afford so they came to a mechanic I know to get it "done cheap" (and he'll wait for payday to get paid).
He challenged them over their cars - why are you spending all this money, I could put you both into tidy cars which would cost less a YEAR than you're spending a month on these things.
He was keen enough - but she said no because
"People at work would see I'm driving an old car and I don't want people to see me driving an old car and I don't want to get into an old car when he's driving either"
"But you can't actually afford these cars, you cannot afford to repair them, you're here having it bodged!! - wouldn't you rather have 2 cars and some spare cash??"
"No - I like having a new car"
Fine - if you can afford it - ruinous if you can't.
rich146
2 Jun 153#59
I don't think you are the right type of person for lease purchasing. The whole point is to buy into a small piece of the whole cost. If you want a new car then you do it this way. If you want a second hand car then you take out the same amount of money and buy outright. However that second hand car could cost you more than this in the end. You also have the piece of mind that the lease vehicle will give you trouble free driving and if not then it will be replaced or repaired quickly. It makes perfect sense if you are in the market for a new vehicle but don't want to be contracted into the WHOLE price.
zermattbusby
2 Jun 151#42
therealjohnpeat to zermattbusby
2 Jun 15#58
From opinions I've read on car forums - I may be the only person on earth who likes that ;0
therealjohnpeat
2 Jun 15#57
That sounds ambitious but if it's true that's a nice bonus to go alongside the 'and there's no danger of being left in deep debt over a lease' too
Askrulous
2 Jun 15#56
Heat for the spec alone
karlie88
2 Jun 15#55
You could earn about £270 in interest on that amount over 18 months.
dannyboy92
2 Jun 15#20
Incredible deal. Can't believe how cheap this is.
therealjohnpeat to dannyboy92
2 Jun 151#33
It's not really cheap - it's just the cost of motoring framed in a way people aren't used-to and it's not without downsides.
You're locked-into repaying the whole cost WHATEVER happens really. If you lose your income you can't just sell the car to get out of the deal because it's not yours to sell - if you need more miles they're pricey - if you need a bigger car you can't just upgrade - it's yours for 18 months and £3200 is required whatever happens.
£3200 for 18 months of driving is actually quite pricey - a wisely bought used car will cost a fraction of that - a really wily customer (the sort of people who relish HOT DEALS) will run a car for less again ;0
It does seem cheap for a lot of car but it's not without it's downsides - ideally you should have the whole cost put to one side - earning interest - then it's less of a risk (tho as a friend discovered, when your wife gets pregnant, that 2 seater sportscar you're stuck with for 5 months of your child's life isn't ideal!!)
p.s. some people say insurance is pricier for leased cars but I've never really noticed much difference...
m5rcc to dannyboy92
2 Jun 15#54
It's not a fantastic car - a poor seller compared to say a Fiesta ST
blue_x
2 Jun 151#53
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STi_prodrive
2 Jun 15#51
worth the money I say
Spod
2 Jun 15#50
You may not have noticed, but interest rates for savers are naff all at the moment! The amount of interest you'd make on £3200 over 18 months isn't enough to make a significant difference.
skinnyman9000
2 Jun 1514#49
Life lesson:
2nd hand cars are cheaper to buy than new ones.
Sure glad I browsed on here tonight, that gem might have passed me by.
Foxy
2 Jun 153#48
I get all the arguments about a well bought used car (that's what I've always done), but people need to understand that this is for a BRAND NEW car with a list of £20K so by all means bring on the comparisons but only if they're LIKE FOR LIKE people. This is a fantastic deal... for comparison purposes only I showed my local Peugeot Garage yesterday (Sunday) this deal and they said they could get ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE NEAR IT using PCP, HP or Lease plans. This deal (and the previously submitted one) are both HOT TO TROT..... Yes it isn't for some, but you spends your money...........
eset12345
2 Jun 15#47
there's no way in hell you need to spend 5 - 10k to get a 'decent' car.
It always makes me laugh when you see 18 year olds in new cars like this, its the height of stupidity, and the start of a painful debt riddled life.
eset12345
2 Jun 15#46
tease = taking the depreciation hit for someone else, so they can sell on at a profit.
Not for me, but i'm sure plenty who like money to run through their fingers will snap them up.
3k for the use of something for 18 months? no ta
yrreb88
2 Jun 152#45
A lot of people don't have £5-10K or whatever lying around to get a "decent" used car and if you are inexperienced, you may end up paying much more than you need to.
iambigred
2 Jun 15#44
Exceptionally good deal. Shame it's only for 18 months.
slimswannie
2 Jun 15#43
seems good
danny2156
2 Jun 15#41
Will apply for this tomorrow, not heard anything from my application to the other company...
008
2 Jun 15#40
HEAT + SOME!
One of the best lease deals have seen in a decade! :man:
Maybe I should have qualified that statement with the word new :smile:
And your talking to someone who keeps a 407 on the road single handed and believe me, its no fun, too tight to change it at the moment though :stuck_out_tongue:
therealjohnpeat
2 Jun 15#35
Buy a car privately - maintain it yourself with the cheapest parts - resell when done - very little middleman involved there.
Of course you need to be able to check-out a car, maintain a car, sell a car - but hey, everyone learns somehow ;0
redoctober
2 Jun 152#27
I could be wrong but this should be the newer 2015 face-lifted model that is 208bhp, the older 200bhp version did 47.9 mpg the new one (208bhp) is called the e-thp and does 52.3 mpg as quoted on the lease website.
karlie88 to redoctober
2 Jun 15#28
Yep, this is the newer version with 205bhp. :innocent:
gonzo02 to redoctober
2 Jun 15#30
Yeah pretty sure you are right
emJayO to redoctober
2 Jun 151#34
According to the Peugeot specifications/brochure the only model with 208BHP is the GTi 30th edition, which does refer to the engine as the 1.6 e-THP. The GTi and GTi Prestige are listed as 1.6 THP and 200BHP.
dbzitb
2 Jun 15#31
lease! to pay someones wages...if that's what you people are into...that's fine by me
redoctober to dbzitb
2 Jun 15#32
If you can show me a way of buying a car that doesn't line a middle mans pockets, please be sure to let me know.
eslick
2 Jun 15#29
Think you guys should wait and give them a call, they have in their search facility Morris minors, itals, and 1100 :smiley:
Mildlytight
2 Jun 15#25
1+17 is coming up at £149.83 for me incl VAT.
Am i missing something or has it got even cheaper?
karlie88 to Mildlytight
2 Jun 151#26
That's 5k pa.
dbzitb
2 Jun 15#21
166+166+199= £531
not £3196.36
£2665.36 is unaccounted for......
marathonic to dbzitb
2 Jun 151#23
Comment
Per month!!!
yrreb88 to dbzitb
2 Jun 15#24
166.52+(17+166.52)+199 = £3196.36
It's accounted for. :wink:
fozzy17
2 Jun 15#22
good deal this, do you have to pay insurance also and tax? and tyres?
johnnyshuttle
2 Jun 151#17
Better these to lease jobbies than buying, especially if you choose finance.
msharif911
2 Jun 15#16
I've just bought a car otherwise I would be all over this.
Creatzy
2 Jun 15#14
Hasn't this deal been posted once before with other web site also posted in the comments ?
Bikerdanny to Creatzy
2 Jun 151#15
Please read the description before posting :B
aljack
2 Jun 15#13
Heat
imiskeen
2 Jun 15#10
BTW: Somehow, I worked it out at under 3K for the rental?? Duhh!! I must have been confusing it with another of the many deals I'm looking at. I'm also looking at / considering the LEON FR deal on Gateway. although this deal may be the one! :smile:
karlie88 to imiskeen
2 Jun 15#12
Thought so which is why I asked for more detail. Thank you for the clarification.
imiskeen
2 Jun 151#11
Nice one! I think I'm ALL-IN on this deal then. thanks OP. (Sorry - had to add to this post) This is an amazing deal! I missed the previous version of the similar deal on here, Just read through the comments, and that was pretty damn good. This is just ridiculous. Thanks Again.
Bikerdanny
2 Jun 151#9
The pan roof and satnav comes as standard on the Prestige version, but not the on the standard Peugeot 208GTI.
imiskeen
2 Jun 15#8
Sure, Haven't really got any other details than a quote for 6 x 142 and 17 x 142.73 + £150 admin = 3428.24 Gateway couldn't confirm if Pan sunroof came as standard, and I'm still waiting to pull the trigger on one of these deals.
karlie88
2 Jun 15#7
Would you mind posting in more detail please? What payment profile etc.
Spec should be standard as per Peugeot website for the GTi Prestige 3dr.
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Opening post
Choose the "custom" option on the nationalvehiclesolutions website to get the 1+17 deal - this means you pay 1 month up front as the deposit and 17 monthly payments - £166.52 deposit & £166.52 PM and only £199 admin fee, plus free delivery.
It should be noted that this deal is identical to the Vehicle savers one but with a lower admin fee - £199 compared to £360 at Vehicle savers.
Credit checks usually take them a few hours, standard colour is solid white and the estimate delivery will be July.
Credit is due to Karlie88 who found the original deal on vehicle savers and EvilGazebo who spotted this on national vehicle solutions, I'm posting the deal on their behalf for HUKD users who haven't read the comments in the original deal.
Peugeot are advertising this as having 208hp for the 2015 model compared with 200hp for the older versions.
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Lets see what I can find...
First up here's a BMW (WOW!): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-BMW-330D-Manual-6-speed-M-sport-black-/141681671980?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20fce2bf2c
Oh wait, it's done 160,000 miles. Oh wait it costs £225 to tax a year. Oh wait it only does 42mpg. Oh wait it's only got 4 NCAP stars instead of 5. Oh wait it costs a million pounds to service and will need an MOT doing. Hmm, it's also a 12 year old BMW, people will probably think you're a drug dealer and probably not even a very good one.
Okay, lets try again!
Next up here's another Hot Hatch: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seat-leon-cupra-1-8t-low-miles-/331570473448?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d3323e9e8
Oh wait, it only does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds. Oh wait it only does 33mpg. Oh wait it costs £290 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait this model is so old it doesn't even have an NCAP rating.
Okay, lets try again!
Let's try for another Hot Hatch: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Civic-Type-R-EP3-2002-Black-/171811676020?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2800c61f74
0-60 in 6.4 seconds? Check! Oh wait, it only does 31mpg. Oh wait it costs £290 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait this model is so old it doesn't even have an NCAP rating. And it needs a load of work doing. We nailed the speed though!
Try again? Okay!
We were close with a Hot Hatch, lets try just once more: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-Renault-Clio-Sport-182-Anthracite-Wheels-A-C-Cruise-Control-Arctic-Blue-/281707978729?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item41971a9fe9
0-60 in 6.9? Check! Oh wait it only does 34mpg. Oh wait it costs £265 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait it only has 4 NCAP stars.
****! Sorry, I give up.
For those who understand lease deals: Great deal, right? Might not be a suitable car for you personally, but no denying the financials! Good work, have a gold star. Feel content that you aren't being completely backward in refusing to understand differing points of view.
For those who DON'T understand leasing (and that appears to be a LOT of you):
* This is a NEW car, not used
* Depreciation on a new car bought outright will be MORE than what the lease cost is over 18 months on this car.
* No registration fee to pay on the car's first year of tax
* No VED to pay on new leased car
* Used cars a bit older will need MOT
* Both old and new will need a service!
* Old cars ... ALSO DEPRECIATE! Good god -no surprise there, so don't ignore it
* Buying a used car for £3-£4k requires £3-£4k of cash up-front (i.e. NOW!). That is money you need to either save, or tie up in your vehicle. A risk - especially if your valuation of your car is not what someone else is prepared to pay. It works both ways, however!
* Leased cars (new, I might add!) spread costs out over the term of the lease. This is called cash-flow. This is fundamental to business and life in general. Smooth cash flow, means a smooth life. No bottle-necks.
* Both new/old need insurance
* Old car bought outright means as much mileage as you like, but increased likelihood of repairs required for incremental mileage
* You can sell your used/owned outright car at any time. A lease is a contract. A contract is legally binding. They're not easy to get out of. Buyer beware.
* Both cars can make use of GAP insurance.
* Used cars are not the most recent model in many cases. Some people don't care and view cars as a simple tool. Others may require to be in a newer vehicle for work purposes. People have different wants and needs.
Golden rules for everyone:
If you can't afford the payments, don't do it!
If you don't want a NEW car, don't do it!
If you want to take the risks on buying a used car and the associated benefits of it being reliable and costing next to nil to maintain, before selling onwards, don't do it!
If you don't understand, don't do it!
Platinum rules for everyone:
If it appreciates, BUY IT.
If it depreciates, RENT IT.
n.b. there are occasional exceptions to the rule. Cars are not really one of those exceptions.
If you're still unsure:
Think of a holiday. You spend £2000+. At the end of it, you don't get to keep the hotel to sell on. Nor the swimming pool, aircraft or airport. You have nothing to show for it except a tan if you're lucky. You have had the benefit of enjoyment.
A car is not dissimilar. Lease deals are great for people who want new cars and don't want to tie up vast sums of cold, hard cash up-front. Plain and simple facts. Easy.
If you STILL don't get it:
Log out, and don't try and reply. Ever. On a lease deal. There is no hope for you.
tldr; these deals get hot for a reason. If you don't understand, put some time aside and try to, before spouting utter nonsense and garbage.
2nd hand cars are cheaper to buy than new ones.
Sure glad I browsed on here tonight, that gem might have passed me by.
Go and buy a decent used sandwich from a colleague at work for a fraction of the price. Granary bread tends to be the most reliable and filling...
Latest comments (1927)
Anyone else had this, if so how long will the delay be and will I get anything extra for waiting?.
Hopefully receive them on Monday
I said that will be OK
Finance docs should have been with me last Monday but still not had them.
I can't do without a car as I need it for work.
Having a nightmare getting the new car delivered by NVS, after being told it was 2 weeks away from delivery at the start of February i'm still chasing for them to raise the finance paperwork (2 weeks at the moment), it's pretty pitiful, they've previously told me it had to be delivered before the 31st of March.
Online quote was, The provisional value of your vehicle is £11925
Had a letter today, shame as I have already ordered the replacement.
Untreated rust/corrosion is considered abnormal wear, however further to our conversation today I will as a gesture of good will, and to prevent further escalation remove the £260.00 you have been charged.
So all in all a good outcome. I think they just try it on.
Hope you don't get charged!
Can't wait till my new car comes Wednesday been on order since Sept 29
They found 2 small dents during inspection which were within limits so i didn't get charged. Overall they were happy.
I have bought a Nissan Qashqai now as I have a 1 yr old and its going well.
This was my first lease experience handing back a car and its been a good one. I guess leasing suits people who look after their cars, if you don't its probably not for you or you have plenty of money to pay them to fix it up.
Now, what do I get in two years time? HaHa
was on an offer in september £246 5k miles i picked 9 upfront and i picked the auto was a bit extra
i knew i wasn't going to get anything good for same as Peugeot so was trying to find a deal and it popped up been a long wait though
Peugeot once they have a human that actual reads the report rather than a computer/admin. They won't charge.
All Peugeot at the end of the day
Should I take it up with trading standards now?
Car was looked after so well.
Inspector said that the wheels are particularly bad for corrosion.
He had to mark them down on the form, but he said they are not any form of damage caused by the customer. He has seen the same issue on these models.
Peugeot do not use the same wheels anymore due to the issue.
He said that customers were usually never made aware that they should get wheels repaired under warranty. We certainly never were told.
Car got serviced 6 months ago at the main dealer, and they did not say anything.
I have opened up a review case with them and will be pressing hard to get the charges waived. However I am advised to pay them first.
We will have to wait and see.
Just signed all the dealer paperwork for my next lease today. Hopefully delivery will be 5th March.
Scirocco R for 237pm 3+23.
Can't wait. :smile:
Nothing extra to pay
Will certainly miss it
I had quite a bad scuff on one of my alloy wheels, which the inspector picked up on, however, they haven't charged me anything according to the report. I guess I'll be charged after its gone through a more detailed inspection at the depot? I've read several people have been charged £65, which isn't too bad.
Anyone been charged for stone chips to bonnet or a chip in the windscreen?
I know it says chips in windscreen are chargeable in the paperwork.
lease ends 26th so collection is Friday the 24th time has gone so quick
I waited two months for collection, agreed a £500 early end fee, but have had £441 taken in rental since I first got that. According to Pug they will still charge the £500 (plus damages which is 0 in my case) then refund the £441.... Got the letter yesterday saying no fee, but no real mention of monies to pay other than I'll get a debtors notice soon and not to be worried about it... Sigh
I feel you though, I pained over reviews/cars/deals non stop for a while to find something as an acceptable upgrade, I will never downgrade if I can help it!
I'm looking for advice on the following though please.
I've been looking at going for a simple car and found what looks to be an okay deal on a Ford Fiesta 1.2 Zetec Colour edition. I got quoted £144 per month for 48 months, 8000 miles per year, road tax, 3 services, and MOT included with a £144 initial rental. 144+6912(144x48) = £7056 over the four years.
On the road price seems to be about £14,620 with the spec I get. Had a look and found similar 4 year old Fiesta's with 32000 on the clock seem to go for about £6000, so depreciation seems right. I mean including the tax and servicing this seems OK? I'm happy to have no thrills as I've moving out/house end of Jan and my insurance on the GTI nearly doubles :confused:.
Solid White, Pan Roof, 8k 3+23 @ £295 plus £234 admin all inc VAT. £7900 over the term. Pretty happy with that for a £40k list car.
Would have been £35/mth cheaper if I'd got in early enough to get one without a Pan Roof. But I'll cope with it somehow :smiley:
My replacement has to be auto, ideally petrol and something a little bit tasteful so the E200 would be an option.
Vehicle: Peugeot 208 GTi Prestige THP 208HP 3 Door
Extras/Options:In Metallic Colour
Profile:14 Month Contract (1+13) or 24 Month Contract (1+23)
Miles per annum :10000
Initial Rental: £244.34 Inc. VAT
Monthly Rental: £244.34 Inc. VAT per month
Admin fee: £239.99 Inc. Vat
Road tax Inc.: Yes throughout contract period
Delivery/Notes:To coincide with the return date of your current lease vehicle / 9.5p per excess mile
Based on Non Maintained Personal Contract Hire
Best bet would be to contact the dealer and ask for proof of service
Take it you kept the receipt?
Just don't want them to turn around and say can't collect untill after the 28th might be busy as new reg is the next day
Said they'd not received the paperwork yet from Peugeot and to call back Friday
3 services + gap insurance probably amount to £500
3+23 at 225pm 5000 on nvs and vehicle savers.
I'm in a little dilemma. I'm happy to renew for a couple of years but my lease is only up in May, whereas the lease company would like to deliver by end of March. They said this: "I’ve just spoken to Peugeot Finance who’ve confirmed that there’s changes coming in 2017. The Loyalty programme will end, they’ve advised that all orders must be in place by 31st December and delivered and registered by 31st March 2017. Any orders outside of this timeframe will not be eligible for the loyalty support.
In addition as there is a price increase effective 1st December, all orders must be with the dealer by no later than 3pm today to ensure price protection.
I’ve asked if Peugeot will offer customers early termination free of charge, however I’ve been advised that as there will be restructures in Peugeot and Citroen Finance they cannot confirm this at this stage."
So i'm wondering what the hit might be if i return the car early.
Solid White, Pan Roof, 8k 3+23 @ £295 plus £234 admin all inc VAT. £7900 over the term. Pretty happy with that for a £40k list car.
On the whole it's been a good car, albeit with the rather massive exception of the endless rebooting ICE unit that took them forever to fix. And definitely good value for what we paid. But I'm glad it was a lease rather than a long term purchase - not convinced of the build quality.
I'm slightly miffed the Fiesta I got has just had the new range announcement, totally upgrading the slightly iffy interior, but the one good thing is there's no indication of the ST hot hatches, standard models June so assuming maybe 2018? At least I have the best car for a year beforehand!
I'll be paying £156.96 initial payment plus £218.99 for 23 months with no admin fee.This includes the £500 discount from Peugeot. The mileage limit is 6000 miles pa with an excess of 7p per mile inc vat.
I couldn't do the 1+22 months to avoid the second service as it is a web deal of some sort that won't let them choose 1+22.
I was told after we had done the deal that it's a good job I came in yesterday as there is a price rise 1st Dec of £400 making it even less appealing.
The new car gets delivered the same day the other one gets picked up in February.
My first impressions are that this offer doesn't exactly seem amazing.... and I'm not on the original £161 a month offer, I'm on the £181 ish a month offer. The new offer seems well Above inflation inc. 20% more for the admin fee, and the mileage has increased from 7.2p per mile to 9.5p
To secure this rate orders need to be placed by 12pm 30th November as Peugeot have a price increase effective from 1st December 2016.
Hmmm, less than 24hrs to decide & need to know how much difference it would be for only 5k mileage per year.
Peugeot 208 GTi Prestige THP 208HP 3 Door
Extras/Options: In Metallic Colour
Profile: 2 year contract (3+23)
Miles per annum : 10000
Initial Rental: £596.91 Inc. VAT
Monthly Rental: £198.97 Inc. VAT per month
Admin fee: £239.99 Inc. Vat
Road tax Inc.: Yes throughout contract period
Delivery/Notes: To coincide with the return date of your current lease vehicle / 9.5p per excess mile
I was also told if you drive it, fly it, or sail it, lease it. I know lots of people don't agree but it works for me. If I could only find a good lease deal for a yacht I would be set, ha.
I've only ever had second hand, and decided it was time to move from older performance cars with less tech to nice new hot hatches that are above my price range but dirt cheap at 200 a month or so :smiley:
Also, you're supposed to rent what depreciates and buy what appreciates right? Just bought me a house and renting a car, finally the right way around!
Just shows that with second hand cars expect the unexpected and have a wodge of cash spare, hopefully no major work will be needed for the next few years and the price i would pay for a decent lease this time around will pay for it within 2 1/2 years. if only there were more hot hatch lease deals for less than £170pm i would stick with the lease route.
i do wish the 1st of march will hurry up
Oldest trick in the book I'm sure, but still tempted eh...
First, I'm tending towards Fiesta ST-3 with all extras, prefer interior of Focus but enjoyed Fiesta plus much cheaper, agree?
Second, I've got two offers:
Contract Hire, can collect from 2 weeks away to 5 months (when current contract is up) in my spec
£1450 deposit, £242 pcm including Mountune power upgrade, free delivery, no admin fee.
2nd option, have to sign within next couple days to get 0% pcp direct with Ford. £2k deposit, £289 pcm (so far best quote) with Mountune, will get in ~2 weeks but then have to pay £520 to end 208 contract early.
Pro's of contract hire, can wash hands at month 36. £600 lesser deposit and £40 less pcm.
Cons - tied in for 36 months regardless and must give back at end
Pros of pcp - can terminate (for a likely fee) after 1.5yrs if needs be. Been told 7.5k end of term payment, but looking at 3yr old ST2's now with similar mileage and less specs than mine would be, they go for ~£14k so potentially could sell at end and get £7k cashback. Possibly can trade with a special 'Ford owners' exchange deal.
Cons - Hassle of selling/owning, need to pay the £520 to end 208 early, so around £2k more spent on gamble of the equity at the end.
What would your votes be?
Interesting! I've gone to the Seat website though and needed to add on £1700 of extras to make it a nicer car, the cupra black edition needs nearly £700 for a spoiler and sideskirts! Surely that should be standard on this sort of vehicle?...
Seat Ibiza Sport Coupe 1.8 TSI Cupra Black Edition
£189 per month on a 3+23.
£174 per month on a 3+35.
8000 miles per annum.
£180 admin fee.
Can reduce the mileage and also save on price as well. Also includes a choice of metallic paint. Jan/Feb delivery.
https://www.nationwidevehiclecontracts.co.uk/Seat_Ibiza_Sport_Coupe-1-8-tsi-cupra-black-71737.htm
If anyone's genuinely interested then I think I can get the monthlies a little cheaper via a dealer, you'd also save on the £180 admin fee - PM me if that's the case.
Vehicle:
FORD FIESTA 1.6T 182 EcoBoost ST-3 3dr Manual
Extras/Options:
Premium paint – Spirit Blue
ST Style Pack
Rear View Camera
Rear parking sensors
Profile:
3 year contract
(Initial as below 6+35)
Miles per annum :
5000
Initial Rental:
£1307.45 Inc. VAT
Monthly Rental:
£217.91 Inc. VAT per month
Admin fee:
£239.99 Inc. VAT
Road tax Inc.:
Yes throughout contract period
Delivery/Notes:
Factory order TBC / 8.38p Inc.VAT per excess mile
Volkswagen Polo Hatchback
1.8 TSI GTI 5dr
£161.33 inc VAT
Initial Rental: £1451.97 | 23 Months @ £161.33 | 8,000 miles per annum
Contract Hire | Admin Fee: £300
https://www.vehiclesavers.com/car-leasing/volkswagen/polo-hatchback/1.8-tsi-gti-5dr.html
Edit - £500pcm as its 5.9% apr. Ouchy!
- you average about 3k miles pa in a hot hatch, so about 9k miles over 3 years.
- you're happy to spend £358 per month on a Focus ST-3 with a few extras over 3 years (you'll also pay a £2k deposit that you'll get back).
If the above's correct, then I'd be more inclined to go for the Focus RS (especially if you're a cash buyer, although the sums would still work ok for a PCP deal). Lead times are long, but historically the RS will hold its value very well and would work out cheaper.
If you look at the mk2 RS on Auto Trader, 7 year old examples are being sold for £21k+ (with less than 50k miles on the clock). So a mk3 RS with 9k miles on the clock should easily be worth £27k+ in 3 years time.
Your choice of course, just putting my thoughts out there. :smiley:
The focus st3 with basically everything extra works out at 358 per month after 2k deposit for 3yrs. I asked if there was any movement in that figure and he said if you are wanting to buy straight away I can have a chat with my manager to see if that figure can be lowered.
He said it was cash refund as there's nothing to stop me selling privately and getting that extra anyway, but it could also be used towards another new one in 3yrs too.
When you say Ford give you a refund, are you sure that's a cash refund or is the equity used as a deposit for another car with Ford?
The interesting thing with the Ford deals are that if you are a low mileage user and give the car back lower than the estimate, they actually give you a refund which according to the sales rep would equate to the 2k deposit I'd put down in the first place. That begins to make this a very tempting deal, better than all the hire deals out there we are looking at.
I'm trying to move and would like to clear this debt so I can get a better mortgage deal
I went with the 1+23 so its £215.99 deposit and £215.99 per month on a 24 month deal. The car is scheduled to be delivered on the day my current one goes back and will be in metallic rioja red.
It may be that a better deal comes up between now and then but I was keen to get in the queue given the delays with this one so I guess I will have to take it on the chin if there is. That being said happy with the deal I am getting and love the car so overall feel pretty good about it.
Not sure what that mileage was on the Fiesta price you quoted, but it works out just under £10k. The S4 works out at £10k based on 8k pa - you could probably get it a little cheaper if you phone a few dealers.
Jan 17 you say? Perhaps I'll calm a little and wait patiently then!
Next batch of lease deals will be in Jan 17.
The BMW M140i with extras to bring it up to tech spec was £1500 deposit and £360pcm :confused: both 24 month rentals.
I'm beginning to think we shot ourselves in the foot a little with getting a high spec high powered low rental period 208 :/ I'll never go back in specs/power as I started with a Nissan 350Z and 'upgraded' to this car as it is...
Also, the arrival times for both of those are March, so it gives me a month to find a better deal. Hope someone spots something soon as those prices are astronomical :'(
as i ordered mid october a bmw m140i and that isnt getting delivered into the uk until febuary for 1st of march delivery . my 208 ends 28 feb 2017
Pretty good @£50/month premium over last time Our original price was crazy anyway. To be honest if I had to pull the trigger now I'd probably go with a Polo GTi for a change (plus 5dr & DSG). But more expensive and base spec isn't as good - no climate, no sunroof etc.
Still can't believe another broker screwed up my cheap Golf GTi - that really would have been perfect. Think I will wait and see if any more killer deals between now and March. Or maybe I'll crack and get this. :smiley:
I am tempted as I really like the car, what do all think to that?
6 months left to go. I had a look at the 308 GT line while I was in Peugeot and it looks nice.
I've done 2300 miles in mine now so had time to put it through its paces.
I'm very surprised at how fast it accelerates for the amount of power it has. Also fuel isn't too bad however only getting around 50mpg driving steady on the motorway, think the book states around 65mpg extra urban, no chance of that. Quite happy with the handling of the car but not overly impressed with the braking.
I plan on uprating the brakes and will also get the vehicle remapped at some point, will be a wolf in sheeps clothing for sure then!
went for the bmw m140i myself
enjoy your rs200
Appears to have been pulled now but briefly came back and may do again. Only problem is they've upped the excess miles charge from 7.2ppm to 10.8ppm after the first wave of orders which makes it less good if you do anything more than lowish miles
N.B. Only issue you may have now is VW finance have literally just changed the excess miles charges. I got my applciation in before they did but if you do more than 5K then this deal may not be so good anymore
cheers
Golf GTi 5Dr DSG - £569.97 upfront and 23 x £189.99 inc VAT
£180 fee
5k
7.2ppm excess
Colour TBC (but I'm not that bothered, metallic would be nice but I wouldn't pay for it.)
Manual also available for a little bit less.Can't push the delivery back beyond December and my Pug goes back in Feb so may have a choice of GTis for a month or so.......:smiley:
I rang the number on the Peugeot £750 letter to see what deals they were offering on renewal. They said I had to speak to a dealer which I did and they said Peugeot change their pricing quaterly and October was the next time so to ring back then.
The dealer did say Peugeot did drop a clanger with the pricing so you won't get anything near as good again.
They also said you don't have to have fixed terms like I thought you did, you can have 23 months or 35, whatever you want so you avoid the annual service cost. This makes it dearer per month but cheaper than a service.
They also said the £750 discount on a 308 or £500 on a 208 is usually on all the time so don't bother about the September deadline on the leaflet.
Misprices have happened before (this along with the VW Passat Alltrack are notable examples) and they'll happen again. There's no doubt that good offers are put out by manufacturers sometimes too.
With this deal and the VW Passat, both finance companies put an incorrect guaranteed future value on the car (about £2k more for the 208 and £6k more for the Passat) which both resulted in very low monthly rentals.
All reputable brokers had access to these deals hence they were widely publicised.
As an ex car delivery driver I have collected these cars to take to auction in the past.
You can get a Corsa VXR for £180 per month on a 1+35 term at the moment, but it doesn't come with half the kit that you guys got and it's only 5k pa.
You can certainly get lots of mundane cars for a similar price though.
With my final payment letter I also had a booklet with £750 of initial rental to stay with Peugeot, has anyone rang to see what sort of deal they will offer?
I assume that includes metallic paint. You'll be hard pushed to find a better deal IMO. I know there are people on PH who have Golf Rs that are due back next March/April but have still gone for a Cupra deal. They've delayed delivery until Dec and are happy to pay the early termination fee (50% of remaining monthly rentals). So they have to pay £300 for the early termination fee but at the same time, they're avoiding a first service and 2 new tyres.
Not sure what an early cancellation on the 208 would work out at though...
I may just go sensible and get the tiguan that's 131pm with 2400 upfront. That's 231 pm over the term.
I just found a deal for a GTD for around 230 pm.
Would the Cupra have been worth the extra £70 per month? Probably. More power/faster, bigger car, bigger alloys, slightly better/more tech inside the car, better exhaust sound, metallic paint included, dynamic chassis control etc.
Pretty sure a good deal will crop up, just a matter of when and keeping an open mind....
If I lease again I'm tempted by this: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bmw-m140i-5dr-nav-lease-2085-48-deposit-231-72-month-5-000-miles-vehiclesavers-335bhp-2512370 in 5dr auto form. More money but a lot of car with new BMW M engine and ZF 8 speed auto box which is appealing (we have the Volvo 8 speed equivalent in family car which is brilliant)
Or maybe a Golf R for about the same money. Or keep it cheaper and get a Polo GTi DSG.
What's everyone else thinking?
'No, it'll take 4 hours' :confused:
18.5k is a good price and below RRP of over £20k
I ended up doing mine through PCP at a main dealer , a lot more money than the lease deal posted but I was still happy with the price
I paid 3k down and 196 p/m over 36 with a final payment fee of 8.5k and 10k per annum.
Works out at 18.5k with finance included roughly, a lot of money but a lot of car for the cash, even more so when you consider you would probably pay more for a poverty spec VW golf or something . I plan to own the car after the 3 years
Surprised at how quick the car is actually , so nice to drive too, loving it
Telford £350
Stafford £250
Shrewsbury £150
Surprisingly I've gone with Shrewsbury
For peace of mind you could take it easy for the first 1000 miles.
On topic of service and maintenance, does Peugeot recommend sometype of break in period for new engines ? Like keeping RPM's down for x amount of miles etc
I have had my car fixed there before they are good but can get busy.
The closet main dealer to me was willing to take filters off but said plugs had to be changed even though I have only done 4000 miles. Still wanted 270. Plugs are 96. Anyway paid 130 at a local VW garage who had 3 Peugeot trained mechanics. 130 with a wash and vac.
Did all of you use a main dealer? I'm wondering what to do...
http://www.peugeot-contract-hire.co.uk/driver-area/index.php/looking-after-your-peugeot
£130.00 no plugs / pollen filter
Apparently the oil alone costs ~ £60.00...
Basically i was driving as normal and approaching a roundabout then the engine suddenly cut out. I thought it might have stalled. Everything went off all the dial lights icons, screen etc. I had to restart the engine (turn the key).
The next day the same thing happened approaching a roundabout and it cut out again. The dials/dash went red text appeared in red caps saying RESTART MANUALLY. This showed me something was wrong so I am hoping this update will fix the issue.
Peugeot Bletchley quoted me £212.
I switched to the settings display and I noticed my economy is about 25 mpg in town not as good as i thought.
The only thing that worry's me is the timing as if they say no I will need to get another one sorted ASAP.
I need my car to get to work.
If you haven't seen the facelift version in person your in for a treat, it looks loads more manly and meaner than the old version, but still has a very bling you but in a classy way grill :smiley: I like the black bits of trim on the interior that replace the red/black stuff in the older version.
I'll be ringing pug up and asking can I extend the lease on mine, if they won't let me I'll see what deal I can find on another 208 GTI or the 308GTI :smiley:
Would have been nice to test drive the facelift model with the thp 208, the one a drove was a 13 reg thp 200 and to be honest it picked up nice with 2 passengers.
I read alot of reviews saying about the wheel blocking the speedo but me and my girlfriend both drove the car and didn't find a problem, even with nearly 1foot size difference between us lol. Really do like the panoramic roof too
Planned leasing one myself but ended up going through a main dealer on PCP as I plan on buying it eventually and they offered a good price before the 66reg cars come out next month. Had a look around the prestige and test drove the regular GTI, impressive car.
Ordered the prestige model in bianca white, looking forward to getting my mitts on it now!
This included oil & filter, air filter, pollen filter, spark plugs.... I spoke to Peugeot Head Office who after pinning them down for an answer basically said it needs an oil and filter change, fluids topping up and a safety check at 5500 miles.
Brake fluid needs changing every two years
Air filter every 40000 miles or 4 years
Spark Plugs every 20,000 miles or 4 years
Pollen Filter every 20000 miles or 2 years
First draining of the gearbox 20,000 miles
These are all listed on the Servicing sheet issued by the delivery firm (found mine in the handbook folder afterwards) and are for normal servicing.
Just shows some dealers will rip you off knowing full well you don't need spark plugs etc.
They said you can have the service done by a non dealer but if you do it sounds like they will try and say it is not valid if you don't have the invoice exactly as they want it with part numbers etc.
It looks like the closest is Grimsby or Driffield, both are a around an hour away (with toll charges for Grimsby) in daytime traffic.
Do I have to use the official dealers? This seems a little crazy in this scenario.
"The items listed are part of your vehicle's servicing schedule. Based on your vehicle's age and mileage, we strongly recommend that these are carried out by your Peugeot Dealer. If your Peugeot is still in Warranty, these items are essential. If you are unsure on anything, our Peugeot-trained experts will be happy to talk you through your options."
Now to me, the £132 means they will complete the service schedule stamp which = happy leasing company on return of the car. So not planning to pay for these "extras". Views?
Thanks :smiley:
All fixed under warranty.
I did try swapping for the spare and the light still won't go out.
I noticed the front tyre looks low but the tyre pressure monitor has not alerted me on anything?
I looked behind the fuel cap to see what pressure the tyres are supposed to be and its not there?
Anyone know what pressure i need to put in front and back tyres?
I do wonder haw the car would cope with the extra power as it is a bit light at the front and loses grip quick.
For the gains I get, which in the power and acceleration department, are very good, I would not have purchased if going to move on in 2/3 years after purchase from new. But I do intend to keep my car for a period am already nearly 4 years.
what was the car running stock on the dyno ? curious to see how accurate their claim is.
The question that's in the back of my mind now is what to go for next? Ideally it has to be one that's in stock as I really cannot afford to have the number of delays like this had at the start.
I'm on about 3300 miles at the moment, i'm on a 5k limit though. I'll be cycling through a lot of summer so hopefully should end up about where it should!
Mine's booked in with my local Peugeot on April 4th to sort the fuel tank issue. Not that I foresee rolling the car but hey :neutral_face:.
I have the same concern as you though. In 12 months time, I'm not going to get the same quality of car for anywhere near the same price :disappointed:
I find I get 33mpg urban and 40mpg+ on a long run depending how I drive.
Also done 6k in mine, so going to go over 10k but happy to pay the extra for the extra use.
Did we all get the lovely safety recall letter ? Something about it may leak fuel in a crash if the car rolls, just more of a incentive not to roll the car hahaha.
Dan
Cheers for the heads up through, will check my locking wheel nuts and socket later.
On a separate note, my brother had a massive issue with his locking nut not fitting properly to the key socket, after a small puncture.
After a lot of messing about he had to go to the local Peugeot dealer and have them all cut off at a cost of £100. He's still trying to get Peugeot finance to pay him back for it. I've ordered a set of McGard Ultra Security bolts for my GTI which I'll be replacing the Peugeot set with next week.
Worth checking your own as apparently it's a well known problem.
I'd expect the 208 GTi to get no more than 20k from the front set and that's if you drive like a saint. Have a bit of fun in it and you'll probably get 12k from them.
Also, it's far more than just driving style having an impact. Drive 20k miles on a motorway/dual carriageway and I'm certain you won't get the same mileage if you drive on countryside A/B roads with long sweeping bends where it's safe to do 50+mph. Also, tyre pressures - must admit I'm not the type of person to check them monthly like you should, probably once every 3-4 months - but they have a huge impact even if they're out by a couple of psi.
You only get one chance to program the BSI to the car so I guess they failed on the first attempt.
After calling Peugeot UK with no help at all I had to call Peugeot finance and tell them they can keep the car and send me out cancellation paperwork as I had enough.
In the end I was offered a hire car which they were paying for 73 hours after they had the car but got a call from the dealers a couple of hours before the hire car would be available to say it was ready.
I have never had this with a car brand or dealer before. :disappointed:
I found this regarding the BSI unit http://www.petercoopercarrepairs.co.uk/peugeot_bsi_reboot_procedure.htm
My 208 GTI
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-Peugeot-208-1-6-THP-GTi-3-door-Petrol-Hatchback-/191681410267?hash=item2ca11a34db:g:MC4AAOSwQTVWAZQw
The heated seat switches are located on the bottom of the seat between the seat and the door.
They don't have park assist
I don't believe there would be a issue using a external hard drive, but TBH that would be over kill unless you have the world's biggest music collection. ( if you have one to hand, give it a try ) Plus you can get huge capacity USB sticks for next to nothing. Just my 2 cents.
8g on the system won't hold many songs and I don't want to fill my iphone up.
Myself and us younger lot generally have all our music stored in our phones and Bluetooth it to the car.
Haven't had much time to play with it but had a great drive home from work.
Next time, I'll either be ordering a car that's in stock or I'll just buy a banger that has a reasonable length of time left on the MOT for £200-£300 in order to fill the gap. :laughing:
A lot of hassle, but after 22 weeks of waiting, it's probably worth it. A nice motor indeed but isn't anyone else annoyed that you have to use your key to open the petrol cap & the flap doesn't lock when the car is locked?
Be prepared to be asked for proof of first payment to Evans Halshaw before they will give you a delivery date.
My car is due on the 12th, about time
It seams the french build quality issues haven't quite gone just yet, saying that I had a brand new Toyota Aygo in 2013 and it had a intermittent starting issue within the first 2 weeks ( literally would not start for love nor money ), the drivers seat needed replacing due to a annoying loud squeak/it being broken ( I weigh 11 stone as well ha ), the gearbox oil also got changed to a different type due to it refusing to engage 2nd gear when cold - needed a new gearbox really and that was on one of the most reliable cars you can buy !
This turned out to be the compressor and now it is being replaced.
Not had great service from Peugeot either.
Other than that the touchscreen seems to be fixed not had the problem since software updated.
Can someone also advise me which is the best GAP insurance to take & over what period? I know it was all posted a while ago, but forgotten as I've had to wait for this bleeding car for so long!!!! Cheers.
NVS are now also saying that Pug will be the registered & legal owner of the car, when last week they said, I would be the registered keeper which my insurance company are happy to cover me that way. With what NVS are now saying, the insurance company can't cover me!!! Great, gotta start hunting for other cover now, with 6 mths still left on my existing cover
More worryingly, the lady found it quite amusing to tell me that 'a train in France derailed & the cars on it were damaged, so no one will be getting those!!!' Sorry to break the bad news...
It's my first lease car for a while and it's making me realise again why I vowed never to do it again, sucker for a toy at a cheap price I suppose :stuck_out_tongue:
hang in there. you will get it and you will enjoy it.
BTW. .. as an example the new range rover evoque came out this month. people had to order it 9 months ago because its very popular. most factory builds take a minimum of 8 weeks. the more popular vehicles can be at least 18-20 weeks wait.
It asks if upon arrival the car was "clean, unmarked and in good condition" YES/NO.
Should I put NO, and add pictures or something?
Never again will I lease a car unless it's in stock as the suppliers are terrible at communicating and setting realistic customer expectation. I appreciate Peugeot might have been flooded with orders and they had an August shut down but the least they could do would be to update customers of this when they find this information out and not wait for us all to contact them and take 3 days to reply to any emails.
Does anyone please have any escalation contacts other than NVS to get more accurate info?
The air con had a loose valve so this was fixed and they regassed it.
The Sat Nav/Media Unit has had a software update done. Its been ok for now but time will tell.
"Hello,
I have just got an update from the dealership and your vehicle is currently awaiting shipment to the UK. Unfortunately it wasn’t one of the ones that arrived last weekend.
Apologies for the delay, they are extremely busy."
Mega crap.
Any feedback from anyone else about the issue ?
(edit!! found the key and love the car)
My touchscreen turned itself off for the first time last week. Was trying to change tracks via on screen controls and it wouldn't respond. After about 30 seconds it just went off. Turned back on about 30 seconds later. Hopefully it was a one off for me...
My main plan is to mirror screen tomtom from my S6 edge though, bet that won't work!
I had asked VS in the morning that all was still green for launch, and was told probably! Near 5pm I had to email and call various people and was told the car delivery was mistakenly booked for another week due to human error, and they'll let me know today what the new date will be.
Joy upon joys, hope this is worth it!
Update: Just checked my experian report and that is exactly what they ahve done...
also what a great looking product. shame my note 3 isn't native wireless charging.
Thinking of picking this up, a car charger that sits in the cupholder.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Forrader%C2%AE-C3-Wireless-Blackberry-Qi-Enabled/dp/B00K72KNBM/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1444064394&sr=1-12&keywords=wireless+car+charger
But obviously pointless if there is nowhere to put it
Just try not to get your hopes up to much thinking your going to get it soon like I did when I received them.
In regards to your air con issue ( mine is ice cold ) do you have it set on auto and lower the reading on the display to low then turn press the A/C button ? as its climate control after it reaches a set temp it will reduce the amount of cold air being pumped out.
If you could please let me know what they do about the screen issue that would be great - hopefully booking mine in this weekend.
I get the screen restart issue about 1 in 5 times i drive the car. I have it booked in Thursday in Bletchey and they are aware of the issue. They also asked me if I had my 1000 mile check and are doing that free which is a very minor service/check. I noticed the Air Con is not cold at all like on my previous cars. Anyone else notice this? I am going to mention this to them.
I now have another problem Peugeot have messed up my direct debit. So they think the direct debit is setup but my payments have not been coming out. I hope this does not affect my credit rating.
"I haven’t had an update from the dealership as yet but I will chase for an update today, they are extremely busy at the moment I understand it’s frustrating."
At this rate I will be getting a 16 plate!
Sorry I meant to say that when you input the level of cover required put £9995 rather than £10000 to lower your price bracket and pay £10 less for the policy.
Note - put your car value as £19,995 as the policy price raises if you go over £20k.
Who do we contact about these issues btw? Do I just call any old peugeot dealer?
I'm getting really **** off with it all now and how nobody knows really whats going on! This will be my 1st and last lease deal, far too much stress!
the pch website seems to indicate they charge for all damage. even a small scratch!!!!
So far I am loving this car, great fun to drive.
Of course I could be wrong, but maybe that is where confusion is coming from?
Peugeot get them to the port on the boat and off the boat at Sheerness and the delivery company has I think 3 days to get them out of the port to the delivery address, i.e. the dealer, leasing company or hire company etc.. This is where the PDI is done, no point doing it in Zeebrugge when it can get damaged or dirty later on route.
Saying that after mine arrived in the UK it took less than a week to be PDI'd and delivered to my door, I was lucky in that sense and it seams for everyone else it took around 2 weeks after getting to the UK.
I'm so jealous of you guys who have had your cars a few weeks already when I ordered the same time!
When the fault did happen it was completely random e.g when just using the radio and nothing else, when it did occur it would restart every 5mins for the remainder of that journey though.
Also common courtesy to give the driver a lift to the local train station if it's bit of a trek - if your car gets delivered that way of course.
:wink:
Formally the ACPO now the NPCC set these rules, but since August this year I have just googled and the new guides are if you are in Scotland no margin will be allowed but in the rest of GB the first offence will give you the chance to go on a speed awareness course and a warning, 2nd and subsequent a fine and pionts
It is to do with the inaccuracies of the cameras and only applies to the old kind of Speed cameras; the handheld ones and the ones that use the markings on the road. The upgrades the the motorways at the moment are placing the upgraded cameras. Get caught by one of these and they don't have to be lenient at all. They can prosecute if you go 1mph faster than the limit. (though admittedly this is unlikely as they'd have way too much paperwork to sort if they kept to that!).
You can go faster than your car says but not by much. Get a GPS speedometer app on your phone and see what the difference is. For me in the GTi.
If the car says 32, I'm going 30.
If the car says 43, I'm going 40,
If the car says 53 or 54 (it's close by decimals), I'm going 50
(Test for yourself like I said as cars do vary by a tiny amount) - This is the only amount you can speed and be 100% sure you won't get caught as you aren't actually speeding.
Don't forget to take the customery pic :smile:
When you say satnav issue, do you mean the screen rebooting issue ? And what did they end up doing to it ? And as draft as it sounds have you tried turning the mood lighting off and on and turned the dipped lights to manual mode instead of auto in case that affects it ?
Still no delivery date :disappointed:
14 weeks is how long I've been waiting - & still got another 5 weeks to go!!! :disappointed:
Collected 10th August
~ 14 Weeks
I connected my phone to the car recently via bluetooth so I don't know if that's the cause. I didn't get the issue before that. I have reported to Peugeot via the contact form.
I'm 26, 6 years NCB and was quoted by Admiral for multicar on this and a 1.0 Corsa (53 Reg) with my partner who's 24 0 years NCB and it's looking at ~£700. The Corsa made up £200 of that, so £500 for the 208.
Also - the speed limit that shows up in the top left. It's there on very few roads (M roads and some A roads only it seems). As well as that, some of these are also out of date. Badly in need of an update.
(still love the car though...)
Your text here
I can't recommend any company's myself, but i will say that the car comes with a full sized alloy spare wheel ! So you can swap it over now and simply drop the damaged one off and not be carless.
First 3 days I had no trouble at all despite using all functions - satnav, Bluetooth, DAB.
On 4th and 5th day it constantly restarted.
Since then I removed my Bluetooth connections and deleted them off the car menu and it seams to have worked for now - I've used satnav and DAB and done a few hundred miles since then inc lots of short little trips aswell as some big miles.
Having irritatingly refused to display the symptoms when booked in to the dealer, it obviously started doing it again constantly yesterday morning. Drove straight there, left the engine running and got them to come with me for a drive whilst they videoed it.
Thought it might take a few minutes but it rebooted before we even left the forecourt :smile:
Still waiting for the call re next steps. But given the number of posters on here with rhe problem this is obviously a systemic design and/or build fault rather than isolated duff units. Peugeot need to sort it out and start communicating.
However, the insurance company will never know!
I cant see myself doing 19500 miles in 18 months though tbf so I'll just pay the extra millage if I go over.
alloys collect dirt easy :smiley:
best just to ring the dealer. I'm sure they will tell you.
Diagnostics check was ran on it. They said I had a faulty touchscreen. New touchscreen unit ordered to be here on Monday. Once it's arrived we'll arrange a time to take it in again to replaced. It can be done while I wait, should take less than an hour they said.
Fortunately, with some talking and number crunching I was able to agree to pay the remainder of the contract off at £296 as one lump sum.. that working to £74 per month is a bit more easier to digest and aligned with what I was being quoted when I signed for the lease.
I'm just glad I didn't have to leave them as I really need those NCB years now, was always a named driver previously.
Its very nice i like the power fold mirrors, blue lights in the roof lining and the sports steering wheel is nice and light.
Got a great deal on Aviva insurance online through topcashback as some people are having issues with LV. It worked out cheaper than LV quote.
I am really surprised you did not know that, most intelligent people do. He did do a tiny typo, but not so much that a person of even below average intelligence would have instantly comprehended fully to what he was referring.
One thing that might help is remove Ariel not tried this yet
Thank you for insuring your car with us.
So we can check the details we have for you are correct please could you send us copies of:
V5 registration document (including the inside pages)
driving licence – paper counterpart and both sides of your photo card
All named driver’s driving licence - paper counterpart and both sides of their photo card photo card (front and back)
Proof of no claim discount (NCD) from your previous insurer. If you don’t have any NCD there’s no need to send this, however we’ll still need to see the rest of the documents.
I will send everything off tomorrow minus the V5 and see what happens.
it is a known fault on the new model 208 and peugeot are working on either new software or a new head unit
all cars with this issue will get a letter from where i got the car from and then arrange to get it sorted when they have a fix
the only thing is there is no time frame for it
also another thing that might help it stop rebooting is to remove the ariel ? but will make reception weak
Is it your auto correct and if so what are you using Apple? or Orange?
The vehicle is owned and registered by you, your spouse, partner or civil partner (not business partner), by your parent, employer or a lease company. Your documents will state that the policyholder is the legal owner and registered keeper of the vehicle. The vehicle must be kept at your address.
That being said, was rather surprised at getting a quote for £330 with protected NCB and a reasonable excess, so might do the switch when the time comes from Admiral if they can cover...
a) to aid diagnosis of the issue and
b) to stop me going completely mental :smile:
WOW this things fun!
You would think as a new car they would of updated the firmware if there was known issues that's if there is an updated one
Or try holding source and menus at same time
The only pattern I noticed was that it did the restart fault when I wasn't near my local area e.g going across country, anyone got any better idea's about when it happens ?
brembo brakes
My current suppler - LV charge £800 without a tracker and they have a good reputation. I'm 24 with 3 years NCB and no claims and no penalty points.
I'm okay with paying that amount as its an amazing car, but just a bit miffed that it jumped up so much.
I was looking for the link myself and found it to be here:
http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ddb/modeles/208/208_208dag/ed01-15/en_us/contenu/AP-208_01_2015_EN.pdf
http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ddb/
The heated seats are rapid - 9 seconds and my backside is toasting ... the best option for a cold morning whilst waiting on the heater getting up to temp ,, the passenger side window isn't auto up on a long press , nor is it a full closure alarm (long press windows up) folding mirrors are great (i know when walking away that i've locked up !. 32 MPG seems to be my average , love the 2 x needle blip when performing the pre flight check :o) oh .... and that steering wheel is tiny
Does anyone know if the car can be purchased at the end of the contract?
What is the space in the back seats like, is it tight for an adult?
The other one is the missus car and she has already said she will be trying to steal mine when she can!
Edit...and a few other android devices.
http://www.peugeot.co.uk/peugeot-mirror-screen/
Looks like we're getting somewhere.
Nice rumble from engine :smiley:
Peugoet Contract Hire value the car at £20,000. If you crash it on your way home from having it delivered and it's written off, your insurance company might only pay out £18,000.
Gap Insurance would cover the £2,000 difference.
If your car is written off. The insurance company will give you money to buy an equivalent used car of the same age and condition as your now written off car. GAP insurance will pay the difference between the amount the insurance company pay for this, and the price of a brand new vehicle.
I am confused about GAP insurance as I have not used it before.
Is GAP compulsory or optional?
Is GAP on top of existing insurance or does it replace it?
In the end they kept asking where it was kept I said my home address then they asked a supervisor they in the end put it as me as keeper
And to call back if different ?
Edit all sorted in the end
messaged back on tuesday 18th i could pick a delivery date and the soonest was the 27/08/15
To those waiting, it is indeed well worth the wait!
Originally ordered with NVS and got approved on 01/06!
mine was 03/08 then slipped to wc 10/08 then it arrived on the 17th
all approved with paperwork last tues and delivery is tomorrow :smiley:
I have been advised by Simon (Jody is on holiday) that the vehicle will arrive into the UK tonight. Still no idea on delivery though.
This is the third car I've leased and I've never had any of this hassle. I've previously had cars with VW and Arval and they ran smooth even when they were collected at the end of the lease. Evans Halshaw and Peugeot really need to sort themselves out.
I did a 200 mile round trip last week and I think I got 53mpg while on motorway. before and after no where near.
Drive behind a tall lorry on motorway with minimal traffic - stick to about 55mph and in the highest gear possible with no air con on. Makes for boring driving but you should get well above 50mpg.
Also - if you get a car that's already in stock it should be a lot faster and a lot more predictable. To be fair on them - the car was only released early June.
I will never use Evans Halshaw for anything ever again.
I've ordered a hard wire kit and will use a piggyback fuse to make a neater installation.
On another note have Pug changed the central vent trim to black ? Has the GTI still got a red stiched leather ( effect ) dashboard ? - I only ask because I saw a picture before and they looked black, could be bad lighting through.
I'm asking as i'm interested in keeping my dash cam on all the time and even through I'm a maintenance engineer and could easily rig a fused circuit together to power it constantly I won't want to risk any warranty/ insurance claim issues due to my custom bit of wiring.
Cheers
Finally starting to get excited though...12 weeks on.
Edit: Oh and to also throw a spanner in the works...I've moved flat since my initial order went through, and you guessed it, my contract lists my old address (even though I tried to update it). I'm hoping I can just start the contract and then just change the address once I get the car etc. I'm not sure I can deal with another few weeks of contract change delays.
Didn't realise that the 208 was actually quicker than the ST to 60 :-)
Only thing I'm struggling with is pairing my iPhone?
Probably going to have to wait on something official from Peugeot I guess... I've noticed the audio on the radio cut out a couple of times, but when I'm litenning to my phone via bluetooth or USB it's flawless.
Also - I've decided I'm not a fan of either of the SATNAV voices... The directions for the satnav appearing on the main console though is a fantastic idea! much better than having to look at the main touch screen.
Press the lock button once and move around. If that activates the alarm then you know the sensors are working. Deactivate alarm etc.
Now do the same but press the lock button twice and move around again. If alarm doesn't activate then bingo!
How would I know if the alarm is turned off? I'd happily do that. I live in the kind of area you could (but wouldn't haha) happily leave your car and house unlocked while you went on holiday and it'd be fine. I can survive without the alarm when it's parked at home.
Any idea what these look like?
Not sure with the Peug but if you press the lock button twice does that disable the alarm? Not sure whether you'd be happy doing that though?
They also mirrored my existing 12 years NCB
Also is the ride hard
Went for a quick drive during lunch. My previous two cars were a 1.0L Seat Mii and a 1.2L Seat Ibiza were pretty nice to drive. This thing is a monster! Wow... It's just effortless!
Haven't played around with any of the tech yet (that will have to wait until after work. For anyone who has yet to receive their car I'll say this. It IS worth the wait.
UPDATE: Peugeot Finance are both the registered keeper and owner.
£5k of cover is more than sufficient. ALA or Gap 123 are the best to go for.
Oddly and different from most people VWFS is the registered owner and I am the registered keeper?
Finally, could someone point me in the right direction of GAP insurance, I have seen it mentioned but it was many pages back. Also am I right in thinking I only need to cover say 17000 - 22000 or is that wrong. Very new to this.
wish I had pestered them from the start, instead of trusting it would be fine.
Mabe get it for Xmas then again mabe not.
I did join/pair the car with my home broadband so it could be that the car or radio is downloading firmware updates, then applying them during the journey.
Anyway so weird that the same thing happened.
It took them 7 days to amend my paperwork, then a delay because I hadn't sent a copy of my driving ID card, then another delay because the scan of my driving ID card wasn't clear enough. lol
just booked mine for next thursday :wink:
Has anyone else had a black one delivered yet? Mine is standard spec.
I rang the AA to change my insurance and after a while when I told them Peugeot are the keeper and owner they told me they can't insure it as it is a hire car of sorts and their underwriters don't cover hire cars!
Don't know if people are aware but the car never sees a dealership. They are imported into Killingholme near Immingham then go to Sandtoft which is a large car/van storage/preparation site next to the M180 where they are prepared and delivered to your address from there.
He then went on holiday and now dealing with someone else it is still not here mid August.
I am being told that the car is in Zeebrugge which is the Belgian port. Slightly further from Calais but I am glad they went that way with all the issues at Calais.
I logged a case with Peugeot support and they said its down to Evans Halshaw and VH are supposed to keep me updated and get the information. Peugeot said the car will be in the UK in 24hrs.
It takes a week to get the car ready to deliver so i might as well wait for 65 plate. Anyone else going for 65 plate?
Anyone got the insurance yet whats the cost roughly? I am 30 with 10 years NCD.
So when we get the insurance we put Peugeot CH as the owner and keeper?
“Please can you circulate this around your team.
We are being told by Peugeot that the logistics side (providers/storage/shipping capacity/transporters etc…) provision is struggling to keep up with the growth and demand in the UK New Vehicle market as a whole, along with the Peugeot network requiting 4,000 more cars to be moved to the UK than last August, so delays are being incurred. Steps are being taken to speed things up including using foreign transporters to bring over vehicles by rail and ferry in addition to the usual ships along with only sold vehicles being moved from Zeebrugge with anything unsold being deprioritised and left there.
Peugeot are apologetic for the delays but are doing all they can to manage the problems being caused by these constraints.”
blame the foreigners.
I did say a while ago that as this is a factory build lease and it's apparent popularity that delays will be inevitable. I'm glad I ordered fairly early and had relatively little problems. I did however order with VS not NVS. I don't know if that made a difference.
anyway I have had my car since Tuesday and am very impressed with it.
I opened it up on Saturday night and I must say it's quick. it's quicker than new fiesta st and clip rs
wasn't expecting that tbh
Do you mind me asking why you both went with RVL? Was it slightly cheaper?
Those 24 hours were agonising. :laughing:
so just getting docs done as not bothered about reg
and they dont know what the delay is
wouldn't be surprised if its not here until early sept
Extremely jealous of all you guys who already have it! Hope it's worth the four month wait haha!
my problem is that i've had a very good offer made on my present motor that I can't except.
if this is how leasing usually works I think this will be my first and last.
It's hurdle after hurdle with the dealership. It makes me wonder what would have happened if i signed the 5k mileage forms, returned, and then asked for an amendment?
From: [email protected]
Sent: 12 June 2015 12:07:57
To: ---
Perfect, thank you very much, we’ll get the vehicle secured now.
That delivery date for you is ridiculous! Not sure whether it lies with NVS, or Evans Halshaw, or further along than that but someone is incompetent at their job.
You just have to take anything NVS say with a pinch of salt and just try and be okay with the fact the car will turn up sometime over the next month or so, probably....
Getting rather annoying now...
"Hello,
The last update I had given you was that the vehicle was due into the UK on the 09/08. This status hasn’t changed which would tell me there hasn’t been further delays as yet.
The finance documents are usually issued 3 weeks before delivery but due to how many cars on order the dealership aren’t issuing documents until the vehicles are physically in stock."
This has been a disaster so far ={
enjoy next friday :smiley:
Mine has metallic red paint. So not much chance of it being confused :smiley:
WOOO. Hopefully have it mid July like we were originally told.
For reference, I paid my admin fee on June 2nd.
I didn't think you needed to send the photocard as well as the paper licence.
I was told to send a scan of my photocard and a screenshot showing proof I'd paid my 1st payment for some reason. Strange how I had to post the documents originally, however I was able to email them when they needed the other bits.
Now I'm just waiting to get a delivery date.
Minor point - but the paper counterpart to your licence is now redundant. I binned mine a few weeks ago.
Haha unless Santa uses yodel :laughing:
It was just that somebody earlier in the Thread said it would be just like a convertible with the roof open. I assume it has a concertina sliding black out. Never been in a car with one of these and wondered where the glass could go.
Thanks for your replies.
Have you emailed them for an update?
still no update on mine ;( was told it will be in the uk this week for definite not holding much hope
Although as I ordered at the same time as others I don't feel too guilty :smiley:
Evans Halshaw do seem to be the source of most of the cock ups in all this. Pretty awful for one of the biggest car dealers in the country...
After lots of chasing up, I finally got a reply that Evans helshaw messed up and instead of my car being in the UK / group stock like they said it was, its still in a bloody french port and the earliest it will be delivered is end of the month :/
Luckily it makes no odds with my new insurer (Aviva) but as copple points out it may well do for others - best to check I would suggest.
Good news - agree the old ones looked well dodgy. But for £166/mth I was happy to grin and bear it.......
Other than that. Happy with the car.
The interior door handles are different in this facelift model, no longer a red to black fade, but now a solid black handle with a red line along the middle. Looks much better.
- page 3 and 4 (page 3 signed and dated)
- bank mandate signed and dated (this is the "instruction to your bank or building society..." page?)
The guide says to send a scan of my driving license and bank statement/utility bill. I already sent this when I applied for finance. Do I have to send it again?
Make sure the following are present: locking wheel nuts, owner's manual, service booklet, 2 keys etc.
"Good Afternoon,
Once again thank you for choosing to place your vehicle order through National Vehicle Solutions.
I can confirm that your order has been secured with Evans Halshaw.
Your contact up until now will have been with either Simon or Kelly, however I’ll be your contact from this point onwards.
Whether you’re a long term car leasing customer or a first time novice, we aim to make the process as straight forward and uncomplicated as possible.
With this particular finance company the contracts cannot be raised until we can populate the agreement with a registration mark, rest assured that we’ll e-mail your finance agreement once the vehicle arrives into stock; after the dealer has allocated a registration mark. Whilst it is possible to place a private plate on your vehicle, it is not possible to select a preferred registration mark due to the volume that this dealer group handles. Should you wish to have your private plate on your vehicle, then please get in touch so that we accommodate this request?
Peugeot Contract Hire is the registered owner of the vehicle, you will be listed on their database as the keeper for the 18 month contract. Your insurance company will require this information once we confirm the delivery with you, further down the process.
Don’t worry if you don’t hear from me until I send you your finance contracts, this just means that the process is running smoothly, however should you wish to contact me, then my contact details are below and I’ll welcome your contact.
Kind Regards"
"Sorry unfortunately the dealership have just contacted me and said that there has been a mistake. These documents are for another vehicle and not yours. When your vehicle is in stock the dealership will send over a different set of documents for the correct car. They have apologised about this."
I was given a reg number and everything! :disappointed: I explained to NVS that I was disappointed about this and their response was "mistakes do happen". They really need to up their customer services game.
A week later, I am fed the same old story from NVS:
"Hello,
I am waiting for the dealership to confirm with me what vehicles have arrived.
Should you require any further information, then please do not hesitate to contact me."
I've pretty much given up. Meh.
The photo not the lawn :smiley:
another bonus about the car is the spare wheel is an alloy too. :smile:
happy days.
:laughing:
Could I ask (or anyone else that knows), what tyres come fitted? Are the alloys diamond cut? And what's the sat nav like?
Ta.
thanks for pics
thanks.
(I'm in my phone)
i know some have had delays due to options / maybe due to factory shutting ??
after chasing up the mid July approx date many times, i eventually got a date W/C 31/08 then after finding the contact details fro Evans Halshaw i am now told W/C 14/09..
This just really does not seem fair compared to you guys!! with my deal i am i paid no admin fee as i think its included in the other figures and maybe they have bumped me to the back because of this?
Im told my car is now not due in until W/C 14th Sept!! after being approved and signed by 2nd June, when some of you already have your cars or getting them next week!
Really dissapointed and starting to regret this deal
did u order an arm rest ect ?
I made my 1st payment via bank transfer after a delivery date was confirmed.
can't wait.
anyone want to put any pics up?
Does it feel like Xmas eve
And to think that I payed NVS £199 to do all this for me , to date all they have done is forward my application form to Peugoet Fleet and then forwarded the contract back to me to sign - Dick Turpin would be impressed !
Quick question fellow leasers - When does the initial rental payment need to be sent ( it states before delivery) ? I'm inclined to wait until they can confirm receipt of my docs and confirm a delivery date but i don't want to hold up this process any further. !
I've been emailing Jody every other day but she said I just have to wait and there's nothing more they can do. Did you say that you sent a copy of your email to Simon too?
I'm just annoyed I'm getting delayed because of a mistake in the paperwork that wasn't my fault.
two more sleeps before the car gets delivered.
:-)
Nail? Could it have been delivered like that?
Do you know if they'll charge a fee for credit card payments?
Unfortunately, I don't think we're going to see such a great offer anytime soon.
Having said that, the Audi S8 lease offer was a scorcher of a deal.
You're right, Simon didn't mention it, I was just on the site and noticed it and did some very quick (and bad) maths. Still a good price I'd say. £500 more than the previous price but I still likely would have bitten for this car at that price.
Can confirm 'they' are both the Owner and Registered Keeper
Hope that helps
Something to do with them thinking I ordered 2 cars? Even though only one car had been ordered - two different dealers claimed ownership of it. NVS thought it was going to one dealer, but the other dealer already had it. I don't fully understand it but hey.
The finance docs should be written up within the next couple of days and delivery can be arranged after that.
Bit annoying that the car had been in stock at Evans Halshaw for a couple of weeks before they figured this out, but hey, at least I know that something is happening.
Also interesting to note, The deal is back on! (Sort of) Same overall cost but with a bigger initial outlet and smaller monthly payments. Not sure if this can be adjusted but yeah. Good for anyone that missed the deal!
EDIT - Guys, I just called Admiral and they said they have no issue insuring Contract Hire cars, so not sure where you got this from mate?
Does it not say who the registered keeper is in the finance docs? Anyone who's signed able to shed any light?
With a lease or contract hire, you're usually not the registered the keeper. There should be a clause in the T&Cs re: speeding tickets, parking fines etc. which would give you a clue as to who the registered keeper is. If Peugeot pays the fine, then that indicates that they're the registered keeper. You usually get slapped with an admin fee too.
Wonder if it makes any difference being Contract Hire as opposed to Personal Lease?
I'll give PCH a call Monday morning to confirm
Interestingly my insurer (Admiral) told me today that they could not insure me for the 208 as they are not licensed for Contract Hire. Weird. So I am going to have to cancel and find a new insurer.
I suppose it makes more financial sense but sooooo wanted to have a little play with it beforehand!
Claim limit - £5000.00
Length of cover - 2 years
£63.00
gapinsurance123
You mentioned Churchill and Privilege providing a new replacement car...
...this is what Churchill's/Privilege's policy is:
So for a lease car - you would not get a replacement.
Believe it or not - makes no difference to me.
http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/9500-insurance-costs/
£167 for one member, £149 for another, £171 for someone else, £145 (R estate) etc.....feel free to ask them for proof.
Probably cheaper for them with cashback too.
Postcode, non-fault claims, age, where the car is kept overnight, job title, annual mileage, the time of year you apply, etc. All have a significant impact on your quote.
For example, it's usually cheaper to state your car is parked on the road overnight rather than on your driveway or garage.
My friend has a golf r which is 50% more expensive than the 208 gti yet his quote is £160.
To cover 99% of the companies you need to use at least 3 comparison sites and Aviva, Direct Line etc. (which are not on comparison sites).
In any case the cost of GAP is not relevant to your quote as this is relevant to you actually claiming and the difference between the amount you would receive and the cost of replacement. remember GAP does not cover anything else and the cost effect should be looked at in that light.
Like your name bananas.
Did you get your new documents sorted yet? I'm still waiting for them to resend them
My docs state 5.83 + 1.17 is that correct (7 pence)
Ta
The estimated delivery date says August. I have been told that my car isn't in the UK until October 7th.
http://www.ala.co.uk/
https://www.pistonheadsgap.co.uk/
Enter code : piston12
eg 20.000 - 2yrs - 10,000 cover - £90.00
Gap123 is the other one
https://gapinsurance123.co.uk/
It's like asking Sony if they have heard of Ken's Audio Visual :smile:
Re your specific situation, what is the estimated delivery date on the order form you signed?
"Your vehicle is now showing due to the UK 09/08. The dealership is also not issuing docs until the vehicles are in stock."
Purchased with NVS, ordered & confirmed 2nd June. The above info is contrary to docs being sent out "up to three weeks before vehicle is in stock".. which makes sense with the quick(?) turn around in proposed delivery after people are returning their documents.
Like many people I have lost faith, really wish I didn't have to chase for updates even if it was just a "nothing new yet" once a week from them. It seems like it maybe is just two people from NVS replying to our queries? I bet they are loving their job with us lot, but £199 admin fee.. my heart bleeds.
Did you have to pay any charge to the dealer before it came?
I have to say I've lost all faith. I phoned Peugeot who didn't seem to know who NVS were either. Definitely something dodgy going on.
enjoy your car
However, when I chased for updates on the order, the estimated delivery date became later and later, and eventually was confirmed to arrive in the UK 7th October, with delivery to me expected around the 14th. At this point I asked if I could swap my order slot with someone else, or take a stock car, but was told this was not an option.
My company have since introduced a great deal in their car scheme, which I'd like to change to, as I've lost all faith in NVS :disappointed:
Today I advised that I would like to cancel my order and requested that they pay me back my administration fee as they could not provide the car within the one month time frame that was promised
They have come back to say they now may be able to get a stock car (someone else's cancelled order) which matches my very standard spec, and that if I choose to cancel I have to pay £500 as they will be able to deliver the car before the "one month" runs out (which they say is end of September). But it seems so unfair that this option was only given to me when I asked to cancel, and was denied before!
I then asked if I could transfer the contract to my sister as an alternative, at which point they said that the rates had gone up and she'd have to pay more (including a £1,200 deposit!). So I went back to say I don't need the admin fee back, but I cannot and will not pay the £500 cancellation fee. They said they will continue to source a stock car for me until I give firm notice of my cancellation in writing.
I have lost all trust in the company and want to give my notice of cancellation in writing, but am scared that they can forcibly take the £500 or sue me for losses. Another part of me thinks that they are just expecting me to back down and pay it, and probably wouldn't really take legal action if it came to it.
I commute 25 miles each way for work and am now in a position where I will need to buy something very soon to fill the gap, as I've been unexpectedly left without any car, which has caused me a lot of expense and inconvenience. Had they delivered the car when they said they would I wouldn't have cancelled, but now I have no interest in taking the car or having any further dealings with them to be honest.
Does anyone have any ideas? Do you think they can enforce the cancellation fee by law?
Many thanks in advance!
Had to spend a lot more on additional presents than I planned for my wife's 40th on Monday, as I had no car to give her
I've bought both used and new cars; Used car - I had it within a week of placing my deposit. New cars, even the Seat Mii (which in 2012 was a brand new line of cars so had to be ordered into the country as I had extras and metallic paint) Took 3 weeks from placing my deposit. I have no idea why it would take 2 months even though it is a new build.
The whole process has put me off leasing cars in the future I think... Simply because I have no idea what's happening and have no control. I generally cycle to work at the moment and have access to a company car if I need to travel any kind of distance but if my circumstances were any different, that probably wouldn't be an option.
Seems like if you were leasing repeatedly, it'd be very easy to either end up paying for 2 cars as you're ordering months before your current contract ends or ending up carless as it arrived too late.
To anyone who does lease often, how do you cope??? :confused:
I'm guessing Alan from Peugeot confirms the paperwork is all good to NVS and they arrange delivery from the dealership ?
Yes, just the straight forward 18 x 149.00 P/M (1 + 17)
Only went for 5000 MPA as my Passat diesel will do the other 15K lol
Nice deal you got there.
They also included a list of 10 number plates to choose from lol
As has been already said "Agree it is totally bogus. But would never stand up if tested so not that fussed." (EvilGazebo), it's just a box ticking operation for them, I don't think it would stand up in court.
I asked Jody about the delivery and she said that it usually takes a week.
I'll send her a message, but I want to see what that Alan's response is.
left hand section – leaving date blank. This will cannot be sent
to Funder till delivery has taken place.
The bit about can't be sent to the funder till delivery has taken place made me keep this form behind.
Rationale is that it takes too long for the delivery drivers to return the forms or some such nonsense. I just did it in the end and sent it with the rest. I've got clear correspondence showing that I was asked to sign sight unseen so I doubt a fast one could be pulled......
:sunglasses:
Love that new car smell...
:laughing:
Enjoy.
I like to 'christen' a hot hatch by taking it on blast on a B road with a full tank of V-Power/Momentum...hope you all do the same.
I think the THP refers to Turbo High Pressure 208 is the HP and S&S is for Stop & Start ( not salt & sauce ;0). This is further supported by my insurance quote increasing from £148 to £186 now that I can provide a Reg number which is strangly recognised by Churchill despite the car not being registered yet. .... I'm actually starting to get a wee bit excited instead of being concerned that I had been relieved of £200 ;0)
After a lot of swearing and sweating with the office printer I managed to do everything and send all the documents to Alan on 24hr delivery. I had to print off a bank statement as I'm paperless delivery now so hopefully they will accept that - It looks identical to the one you get through the door. I also had to relearn my signature as the one the use on your driving licence for checking has changed so much.
All my documents were correct thank goodness - 10k p.a and only 1 month deposit.
Yes I will be booking a day off work when it arrives haha sad I know.
Anyone else bothered by the idea of signing a blank Delivery Note before you've seen the car? NVS say it's only to speed up the process if all is well and can do another one on the day if problems. But never been a fan of signing blank cheques etc
I think I'll be taking a half day if mine ever gets delivered. Got to give some time to test it out!
As all the stuff on the delivery form mentions stuff about after the car has been delivered so I don't see why/trust them to have it now as they could dismiss any delivery damage claims.
Ordered on 2nd June. Just been on the phone to them and the 5000 miles was just a typo mistake. They're going to send me out some updated documents.
My car should have been in the country last week so this seems to be right. I hope delivery doesn't take too long as I am on holiday at the beginning of next week.
those who have had docs today ?
Just noticed annual mileage on documents says 5000 not 10000 p.a?
Chances are it will have been allocated a registration number already if it's in the country. Doesn't help much though. Hopefully this processing thing will sort most of us out and they can tell us where we actually are.
Hello,
I have just had a email from the dealership saying that they are going to stat processing the documents for physical cars they have with them in stock over this weekend. I will then be able to determine what vehicles they have and which they don’t so I can update customers.
so basically they don't have a clue where the cars are in the system, not sure if this is NVS or Peugeot causing the update problems. it is a facelifted model so there will be lots of orders for the normal 208 as well as the updated GTI.
I'm going to sent an email to evans halshaw now to see if they have a clue what's happening.
Which reminds me with all the problems and delays people are having, even though these deals look good, I think I'll stick to buying my cars.
I thought you of all people would know....:wink:
"Hello,
I have chased the dealership up since Monday to let me know which vehicles have arrived into the UK and I have not yet got a response.
I understand that this is getting frustrating for the customers but all I can do is wait for the information, as soon as I have it I will be sure to let customers know.
Should you require any further information, then please do not hesitate to contact me.
Kind Regards
Administrator
J.Gray"
Hopefully I will get the documents to sign ASAP! Getting a bit fed up and worried about missing the car while on holiday at this rate!
I did receive an update on Friday which I have been processing today and yesterday, unfortunately your vehicle has been delayed.
'Your vehicle is now showing due to the UK 04/10, The delays have been caused by factory constraints on the engines and the Peugeot factory shut down which last for 3 weeks.
Unfortunately there is not a lot we can do, we will monitor this over the coming weeks'.
Hello,
I have just checked the update we have received and it is now showing that your vehicle is due to arrive into the UK on the 09/08. We were originally told that this date was when vehicles would arrive with dealer but this has been pushed back due to how many vehicles were placed on order.
Mine is due week starting 3/8 into the uk
Somebody is lying. Or just not keeping me updated. It doesn't take 3 weeks for it to be transported to the dealer from port, regardless of where the dealer is based. (It could be based in China and it still shouldn't take 3 weeks...)
Hello,
The dealership have just advised that they anticipate your vehcile to arrive in stock with the dealership week ending the 09/08. Please note lead times can change pending on logistics and factory constraints.
Once the vehcile is allocated a chassis number and awaiting shipment to the UK I will supply the finance documents. This is usually 3 weeks prior to the vehcile arriving in stock.
just been told car will arrive into the uk w/c 3rd august
"Hello,
Unfortunately the dealership have not yet received a build date from the factory. He can only estimate but not confirm that it may be built Late August/Early September.
I have checked you order and I realise that you were expecting the vehicle in August however unfortunately we can only give estimated build times at this point and won’t have any further information until it is supplied from the factory."
...super :-\
For info to others wondering, i'm based in the NW, paid my admin fee and ordered on the 6th of June.
French school holidays started 4th July we already have the campers and caravaners descending on us here in Spain. Could not find by googling Peugeot factory shutdown dates and also could not find any ships heading for Sheerness, so lets hope the French habit is not going to stop the cars coming.
I think it's more a case that our dates are either before or after French industry shuts down for the whole of August......
So looks like there going for the new 65 plate?
Think I'm right in saying this is the new facelift GTI (30th)
First actual real life photos think I've seen
Looks stunning!
I believe that the 30th edition that the PICs are of - the alloys and the black wheel arch plastics are the give away.
That said - they don't seem to like getting in contact of their own accord. I'll leave it until Monday Afternoon and I'll email them again asking for an update...
That does look really nice... The best part is... That's the same colour I'm getting! :smile:
Parts generally arrive in batches (enough for a week possibly) a short time before they are needed and kept in stores on site. When the vehicle requiring the part is being built, it will be moved to a rack or other temporary storage right on the production line which I guess is model specific but not variant (ie GTI) specific. It's almost certainly something as simple as a backlog or parts shortage causing the delay.
This is a great deal, hope there's something like this around when I decide to get rid of my Mini Cooper S which I'm still tied into for another 18 months.
Cars are built on the just in time system and the parts arrive according to the required model going down the line whether it's 3 /5 or estate one after another. So a GTI may follow a base model but the parts for each will arrive at the fitting points as each different model passes by, that is in it's simplest form, there are other factors involved.
If you do, then please go ahead and enlighten us...more than happy to learn.
It's all quite complicated and I assume the main problem is sourcing the parts for the car to be built. The factory will want to make the cars in batches and won't start building until ALL GTi components are in stock. I imagine the seats, nav, pan roof etc. are more difficult to get hold of in big numbers.
2nd June. Q: "When's delivery? A:"Mid July"
Reaaaaly try to be patient....
23rd June. Q: "When's delivery? A:"Mid July"
Reaaaaly try to be patient...
7th July, 1 week before nominal delivery date. Q: "When's delivery? A:"Mid September" Aaaargh.
This is one of the main problems with leasing. First car you get is less of a problem. It becomes more difficult with your 2nd, 3rd cars etc. It's very difficult to time handing back your old car and taking delivery of your new car.
More often than not, you'll either be without a car for a few weeks (possibly months) or you'll be paying for 2 cars on your driveway for a few weeks. Leasing a 'stock' vehicle makes this a less of a problem, but the great deals tend to be on factory orders.
Good Afternoon,
I just thought that I’d drop you a line to advise the latest position; unfortunately we’ve not heard anything back at this stage and to be honest the level of priority somewhat seems to have diminished.
Since the launch of the current rates mid-June, the 208 GTI Prestige seems to be selling well and Peugeot have been happy with its performance, whilst they’ve not gave a decision either way, we worry that whilst the lead time is now extending (October 2015), there is a forthcoming residual review on 1st July, which could see the 208 GTI rates increase, which would mean that if they decided “no” then the current rates may not even be available.
I struggle to understand why they would allow the matter to drag on if the outcome is not positive, however I believe that for the sake of 50 cars; as the vehicle is selling well and the lead time is now in Q4 that their interest is lower than I would like, I genuinely think the outcome will not be a positive one given the lead time, based on the lack of forthcoming information and the fact that we’re chasing with no initiative coming back.
Whilst they’ve not communicated their decision, I wanted you to be aware that the current rates may also be pulled soon, whilst they still provide great value for money?
Assuring you of our best attention at all times
When I delivered cars before retirement, a bank of cars was produced for RHD UK before this holiday period. This was when cars were less personalised but just L,LS and XL depending on manufacturer. This was good for me because I worked the annual holiday period and had cars to deliver, taking my holidays when prices were cheaper out of school holiday periods.
Today cars are built to your order so you have to wait, and if the holidays delay your delivery date the workers could not care less.
Has anyone had their build week confirmed yet?
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I will never need it and will moan about it pulling on my arms, but at least I will know it has it and I can bore people talking about it.
Anyway, I think they are cool :sunglasses:
I hope they hurry up, I have a test drive in a 64 plate Corsa VXR ClubSport tomorrow and a Focus ST on Friday - need to know soon so I don't go mad trying to make a decision :confused:
See Contract Cool-Off Period for more info.
Edit: just checked and same prices £184 for 5000 miles etc.
For someone much shorter than me then yes the position it was in would have obscured their view but if it's fully adjustable I don't see it as an issue.
After we had the test drive he goes I wish they'd give me one of these as a demo car as I think it's the first time he had been out in one - they only got this one in this week. I can say they really are a pleasure to drive.
I'm 6'3 and there was masses of leg room and head height, the drivers seat with all the racing seat type side support etc was very very comfortable. The rear seats do fold flat so makes a nice big boot space. The equipment levels are excellent and the 7" touch screen dash is lovely. That panoramic roof is going to be like a convertible when open.
Also the new prestige model comes with the dark grey alloys not the silver alloys the gti comes with, the sales guy showed me on their system. Also they had the 30th anniversary model in the show room and that was even more lovely, shame those aren't on offer!
All i know is if I had one i'd be out driving it all the time, i'm an ex subaru owner and whilst this is no scooby it is still very very enjoyable/fun to drive.
Don't think Peug/the dealers will lose much.
£20k list price - cost price likely to be £16k for the dealer though. We give them £3k over the lease. Several hundred GTis go into auctions in 18 months time - dealers will buy them again and THEY WILL set the price on the forecourts - probably around £15k.
Win win really.
I've got confirmation from NVS, VS and CVL that this was a misprice and a mistake by Peugeot. They essentially uploaded incorrect figures on to the system.
:laughing:
I could be wrong, but they only seem to offer a 200bhp model
http://www.evanshalshaw.com/brands/peugeot/peugeot-new-car-offers/208/
Sounds good :smile:
Either way, For people who got this deal, I can't see there being many things going wrong in the first 18 months and if they are they'd be included in any car warranty so nothing we need to worry about.
My point still stands though, it'd cost them a fortune if it went wrong loads in warranty. So there is a huge financial incentive to make the car reliable for at least three years in this case.
Thanks
What a logical fallacy.
I initially saw the deal on CVL (a banned merchant on HUKD), the following day I noticed another 5 brokers list the deal - so at this point I knew it wasn't a misprice. NVS joined in a day later.
Very true about the miss price bit, I was worried that they had listed the deposit for a grand less than it should have been ! - usually these cars require a £1200+ deposit down.
I also very much hope everyone enjoys there 208GTI's no matter what supplier they got them from.
I don't believe it's a price "screw up". The messages given by NVS etc regarding them filling their allotted slots makes more sense. Who wouldn't notice something like this last Monday when a bucket load of orders came in at ridiculous prices within Peugeot?
Could also just be cheap advertisement, get a load of people driving in them and making a week long deal of a cheap lease is probably a better and cheaper investment to advertise and get people seeing them. After all, they re-sell them in 18 months so don't even lose anything.
There are some trolls and the anti lease brigade that think everyone should have a battered old Micra as that's the "cheapest" way, but generally its all good.
If peugeot like how this deal went, then they might put an offer out for the RCZ too? Or an Audi S1?
There have been some cracking deals out for some nice cars in the last year, long may they continue.
Unlease the dogs of war!
Get it? Unlease, not unleash. shall I stop? :smile:
Before the lease fans jump down my throat, I'm just having some fun, leasing a car makes sense for a lot of people.
You can put a private plate on.
But, I was looking for a 5k miles option so the following may not be suitable to many, with larger fees etc, however:
http://www.rvlleasing.co.uk/personal-lease-cars/peugeot/208-hatchback/16-thp-gti-prestige-3dr-31279534
EDIT - Just had a call from them, the deal was pulled after 25 went through but the website hasn't been updated sniff
Banner at the top that says:
Then look under 'Know everything about your 208'
Tyres 18''
New model 205/40 ZR18
On a serious note I joined 208forum and the first few guys I met were all from my local area - Sheffield / Rotherham.
http://www.peugeot.co.uk/media/new-peugeot-208-prices-and-specifications-brochure.pdf
Brembo Brakes, wider track and 19'' Tyres :smile:
I'm in Yorkshire (Leeds, Selby) too. See a pattern developing here...
Here's mine :smiley: Granted I've owned her for a while now... Hope you all enjoy your new toys when they arrive!
I can't beleive that they would not have quietly applied some improvements to that engine mind you, it has been in circulation for over 5 years now and must be costing their warranty dearly. I know Mini have a retro-fit adaptation to stop the oil burn and a replacement timing chain guide to stop the tensioner issues (Peugeot offered me these as a costly after-market upgrade.....). I'd just want assurance if I was going to lease one, my morning on the side of the M4 was not one I would wish on anyone!
As this deal is getting a lot of interest, expect the delivery date to go further back the longer you leave it until interest drops off the boil.
I am! Work near meadowhell and live out rother valley way.
He has had it for a few years and kept it standard, gone mental in the last 10months!
I have owned, and maintain, a big 2007 Citroen C6 Exclusive which have had since 2009, along with a van. Love the C6, but work offshore at the moment
Missus is in process of going for driving test in the next month or two. Have decided on leasing, and trying for something that will both of us can get something out of, in different ways.
This looks excellent. But am tempted by the Golf R estate deal also. Aware of the slightly greater cost, but thoughts on that comparison?
Also, what way does it work in terms of both of us wanting to drive it? Do I just ensure she is added to the insurance after passing test, or are there other hoops to jump through?
I am small business/sole trader, if that opens anything else up. I came to consider this avenue too late to catch the Golf R sole trader deals at the end of 2014!
Any advice appreciated. Thanks!
If you're paying anything in advance (3+17 profile or 6+17, etc) then you pay that a few days before you take delivery (when they book the transport to get it to your house)
I am going to have to sacrifice a car for this one. It is only worth about £100 (15 year old Suzuki) never gone wrong. I change the oil myself once in a while :wink: and it refuses to die! it is good for chucking the Kayak on though so I will be sad to see it go.
Do you think I could bungee the kayak to the panoramic roof of the 208? :smile:
I drive the Golf R sometimes and it is a fantastic car to drive. With the 4 wheel drive you know you can hammer it in/out of a corner and it will just grip and won't lose traction - nothing like I've seen in any other car. 4 exhausts are pretty awesome too. I've driven a Corsa VXR Nurburgring, Focus ST-3 and Golf R and the Golf is the biggest head turner. I dabbled with the launch control on a motorway slip road in the Golf once - 0 to 62mph in 3.9 seconds. :confused:
Don't get me wrong, I love Corsa VXRs, Fiesta STs, 208 GTis and the Renault Sport Clios - they're fantastic cars; it's just once you get used to their power, you always want more.
I'd love to add this new lease deal to our driveway - don't think I can justify it though! :laughing:
The higher power FWD stuff tends to have diffs and clever electronics to keep it all in check.
Did a track day with 1.6 Caterhams with skinny tyres - they are almost too much fun at low speeds!
I would be doing three laps of every roundabout I came to if I had one :smiley:
Bloke at work has just spent £8k on a BBR turbo upgrade for his mx5 - 350bhp in that is too much!
Everyone he takes for a spin comes back white as a sheet :confused:
I'll see how I enjoy the pug over the 18 months before deciding if I want more power through.
I love little turbo cars, they are great fun. I had a chipped Punto Turbo after the Uno - mid range was awesome
Twit BMW 530 driver had a surprise when he bullied me over on the A40 one day :wink:
I knew that getting older would pay off one day :smiley:
I hope the Golf R is on offer (or the equivalent) again when this one expires.
Told Privilege that it was a private lease, the lease company owned it and said they were the keeper too. I will change the keeper to me and see what happens.
Dealer enters lots of 208 orders on system, one after another. Not really a surprise if the build date it spits out starts to get further away, surely?
I just think that 500-odd 208s with 65 plates would be better placed at an auction rather than 15 plates - hence dealers delaying where they can.
All I know is that the ridiculously cheap Golf R lease deals posted last Sept/Oct had a Feb delivery date. That soon changed to Mar and Apr. Most have since received the car in May.
Can't believe how good it is. I went for 5000 miles and 6 months deposit in white - looks like a total of £2896.74
Got a quote for insurance and expected it to be quite expensive - £180 with Privilege :confused:
I hope they have some left when they finally process mine.
All I know is, brokers underestimate delivery times, purely to get the orders in. CVL state 8-10 weeks delivery for the 208 GTi. So, that's already well into August. I'd say you're looking at Sept delivery now.
Don't be surprised if you actually get delivery of the car in Sept now - who knows, some may end up on 65 plates rather than 15.
It's the newer vehicle
happy days
I'm 100% sure that all us HUKD peugeot 208GTI Prestige owners will enjoy our cars very much over the next 18 months.
Glad you are not a CEO.
Fiat and Alpha Romeo more reliable than Porche...
In fact, all the brands that we all know and hate as unreliable (like Vauxhall, Fiat, franch... ) are more reliable than the brands we only dream about, like Porche, Bentley, BMW, Mercedes, Audi... yeah, makes sense! lol...
I now drive a Honda Accord and haven't had a problem to date, nor do I expect one given the reliability figures at the link below. However, many friends drive an Audi A4 and never give up talking about their excellent reliability. Only one has had problems but, looking at the link below, Audi has the second worst statistics for reliability - it's reputation, which appears to be misplaced, suggests otherwise. I'll go with the cold, hard facts though.
Your text here
BMW, VW, Audi, Mercedes-Benz are ALL at the bottom, behind Daewoo, Fiat... need I say more?
Seriously, do you really believe Bentley is the least reliable car in the world? And Fiat and Daewoo are at the top of the reliability?
Toyota had so many recalls and issues in the last few years, and yet it's at the top... and SsangYong is more reliable than Mercedes?
Apply some reasoning to it.
Edit - I tried calling to get to the bottom of the colours/options/engine type etc etc, no answer as 'busy handling calls'
However could it not be the case the factory decided to churn out a few thousand of these on the cheap to use up all the 'old' parts?
Hope I'm wrong...
Where is this coming from? I can't find anything about breakdown cover?
Also - Food for thought.
Edit: Not saying this will break down, just talking in general.
Can you easily fold the back seats down from the boot side or does it require you to open the side doors?
Watched so many videos and can't seem to work it out
I don't know, I'm no expert but this is what I'm figuring ...
You can buy this car from Drive The Deal for £17,800.
How much would it be worth after 6 years?
Say £5000?
Cost of ownership = £12,800?
This deal £12,784 (assuming I could get a a similar deal every 18 months).
Less 3 MOT's, plus interest on the cash still in my pocket.
Looks like it works out about the same but with the advantage that you always have a new car plus without the hassle of having to sell it.
(I did do the first day of AFF, was an interesting experience, but lots of other things I'd spend my money on first... however it's still below a car that costs me £3200 over 18 months :smiley: )
For instance, learning to hang glide and buying more/better kit. Motorbikes (because in reality in England you can't go for a decent 'drive'). A more expensive holiday. Trackdays bke and/or car. AFF course. A motorhome so I can carry my toys around and live in comfort (ok, or fuel for said motorhome I already have, as a 7.5t lorry drinks a fair bit.) High spec home entertainment system, computers and so on.
Food in nice restaurants over that time.
But yes, I do well appreciate that for many this would be the best use of £3.2k they would want.
Certainly very good compared to other new options.
I've bought and sold E36 M3s for less than this - in both cases not in perfect nick, but a much better choice for the 'hobbyiest' I would suggest :wink:.
I fish and in 18 months I could easily spend that on tackle, tickets, bait etc. Most peoples hobbies are probably more expensive than they realise.
If cars are your hobby, you can't go wrong with a deal like this. I love a little hot hatch and this new Gti is a welcome return to form from Peugeot.
The production costs of this vehicle is probably about £15,000 . Peugeot still own this car which would probably be sold to a dealer at £16,000 so Peugeot make £1,000 per vehicle.
You pay Peugeot £3,200 for this vehicle, giving Peugeot £18,200.
When you return the vehicle it will go through the auction, where only dealers can bid on it, and it will probably fetch in excess of £15,000, back to the cost of the vehicle in the first place.
So Peugeot have got their initial money for the car plus £3,200 over 18 months.
In the meantime the leasing company have been paid a commission for doing this deal for Peugeot, an unknown fee.
So both Peugeot and the leasing company are quid's in for no loss.
And you have a fantastic deal without having to haggle.
http://www.rivervaleleasing.co.uk/car-leasing/nissan/juke/1_2-dig-t-acenta-5dr-64483
I'd really like to see some lease deal that could genuinely replace a used car that does, say, 35mpg, and costs £280 per year to tax and does around 8k miles with something that worked out cheaper to run (including tax and petrol) for less.
Think the last Zoe deal was £150ish per month.
As far as people being allowed to post their opinions of leasing versus buying a car, I've never leased a vehicle so I'm interested in the pros and cons thanks.
Or if you did want a small car, then there are cars that are 'better' for the money, depending on your definition of better - many people would rather have an MX5, for example. A brand new 208 is not necessarily 'better'.
This is a good deal if you are vaguely needing a hatchback, but otherwise it's not.
I used-to-work in a body shop and most of our private business was people wanting stuff fixed which wasn't worth claiming on the insurance for - even if you have protected NCB, every claim you make will increase future policies (and yes, I know you're supposed to inform your insurer of any incident but no-one actually DOES that!) :smiley:
As I said - be aware that you're looking-after someone else's car and they'll want it back clean and tidy - nothing missing/broken/scratched/dented - maintenance done on-time and so on.
no silly comments.
just needs explaining to me..
Oh - and you must pay the entire amount whatever happens - no bailing-out or changing your mind midway (charges for cancelling leases usually cost more than the leases would anyway!!)
Clearly they have some cars they got at a good discount and they're optimistic they'll not drop more in that time. 18 months is a very short lease - they clearly want to get the cars back when they're still "quite new" and worth something.
£3200 is £178 a month or 22p a mile (before petrol and other costs obv.) - just to have a car.
As a work of warning however.... I used to have a 3008 with the AWFUL 1.6THP engine. Mine burned 1 litre of fully synthetic oil every 1000 miles. It has significant timing chain tensioner issues (mine went twice in the 18 months I owned the car and this is a well documented fault). BMW no longer use this engine in the Mini or 1 series range as it is too unreliable.
Saying that, it propelled my tank of an MPV along at good speed so I can only imagine what it's like tuned up by another 50bhp in the 208 GTI.
The 208bhp version is a special edition by Peugeot sport.
Might be a silly question, but if I do go for this, can I continue leasing at the same rate after the 18 months (like a mobile contract)?
Its not a deal breaker for me, but if I really enjoy the car it would be nice to extend the lease for abit longer, I don't think I would buy it off the lease company through as something with this much tech will cost a small fortune to fix when out of warranty - only 3 years on the Peugeot.
On Wikipedia, this is lumped together with the older N14 without variable valve timing and with the timing chain (death rattle) issue found on 2007-2010 R56 Cooper Ss.
Whereas until the launch of the R56, MINIs from the last four years used the updated N18 (higher horsepower than the original MINI N14 implementation, better mpg and VVT)?
So which engine does this one take after?
It turns out I had told them about it being a lease, and they were well aware of it. I think your on the receiving end of some kind of scam fella. I'm guessing that typically it may be age related, I'm in my 40's but I know how some insurance companies like to restrict the younger folk from living their lives etc. Either way, I'd give admiral a quick call to double check that again.
If you have another car in the house, get a multi car quote and see if that makes a difference?
I'd double check on those details with Peugeot's finance department rather than information from NVS. If the V5C is in Peugeot's name then they are the registered keeper; not you.
Another way to find out is to ask what would happen with speeding tickets/parking charge notices/bus lane fines etc. If the answer is paying the cost of the fine plus an admin fee, then that indicates that your are not the registered keeper.
a) The car was anywhere as good as the one being advertised here
b) it didn't cost money you weren't expecting (tyres/brakes/other annoying problems)
c) The servicing was much cheaper than the £99 it would cost to service the 208 at 10k miles (Oh 60k miles sir, that'll be a major cambelt service please ...)
d) It was as cheap on tax and insurance as this one, whilst having similar performance/economy
Also to the person saying they would have a £10k mini, you do know the Mini has the same engine as this one, albeit older and more troublesome (google it)
I tried the older / faster / better route but the fact is with a new car, it is all covered by warranty and you don't spend your time wondering, what will break next / will it pass its next MOT
It's not for everyone, but this is a cracking deal
Mr partner and I comfortably earn over the average UK household income and have no dependants (as well as the benefits of living up North!). We fell in love with the Golf GTD last weekend and are in the process of ordering one on a lease.
Yeah we could go and get a lot of different used cars for £10-15k or whatever - and that's great. Honestly I'm happy for you that you have the time and don't mind searching for a quality older used car.
We however, are happy paying for maintenance free motoring for a car that we absolutely adore, cannot wait to drive and will enjoy driving every day until we hand it back and choose another car that we love.
I imagine quite a few of the people interested in this deal could probably hand over the £3200 up front if they wanted to - it's not all about the money!
The point of my post is: there are people for whom these deals are great and there are those for whom this won't be viable. Please clog up the thread with your unwanted opinion if this isn't for you. Trust me, lease drivers have heard it ALL before...
You will have to service the car (at least once), tax it, replace any wear and tear items (tyres, maybe brakes) and - and this is a biggie - repair any damage you or anyone else causes.
If it was your own car, you could choose if/when/how/with who to repair any scratches or issues but with a lease car you need that done reputably/with paperwork to prove it before it's returned (issues with lease cars tend to result in silly bills being sent to you otherwise)
Sure, it's warranted but damage is still a real thing - wear and tear is a real thing - vandalism/parking prangs happen - child seats can damage seat fabrics and so on. It's like renting a house, some 'wear and tear' is fine, anything outside of that isn't and the lease company can and will chase you for the cost of putting anything right (at a silly rate)
All stuff to be aware of - it's not £3200 and no other costs by any means...
Tax is covered by the lease. Servicing, yes - you can usually go anywhere you like: so long as 100% genuine parts are used. The exception appears to be Mercedes from memory - they are really fussy.
Tyres, yes, this is annoying if your lease car uses £200 per corner tyres. Hence why paying for a fully maintained deal, can sometimes be beneficial (more so when "dealer" servicing is factored in, should that be your thing).
Accidents and vandalism are covered by insurance (so long as your policy is built appropriately). GAP insurance covers any discrepancies to invoice etc.
As already mentioned (and glossed over?) BVRLA guidelines on minor cosmetic damage is very forgiving on lease vehicles!
2. What's the cost of getting £4k on a personal loan? Not that it's relevant to a new car deal vs buying/financing personally a new car, but still - personal loan if you like. The used car route is still moot for those of us interested in new cars alone. I appreciate value can be had, but that's not what is being put forward as a deal. Else we'd end up with a lot of auto-trader deals. Those are unique, while this is available on (assuming so) mass.
3. A risk. One a lot of people don't want to take. Mileage charges are as you say, known. Risk of repair? Who knows!
4. You also need to consider that a used car buyer may be fussy and waste your time trying to haggle. Put simply: let's assume that the vast majority of people don't want to drive something that has taken part in what appears to be a destruction derby. To answer your point fairly: minor damage is also not a problem on a lease. Check out the BVRLA guidelines!
5. Don't hate something I take a guilty pleasure in :smile: who cares about how many "likes" a post gets? If people are even remotely concerned by volume of likes or badges on an internet site, they probably need to re-evaluate their priorities.
What would be the point of only people wanting the deal posting? You'd only get one side of a discussion then.
But I sold my S80 53 2.5T plate for I think £1800 70,000 miles about 4 years ago. The buyer got a good deal and I don't think they would be much less than that today on 100,000 miles.
It's not that hard to do.
You really need to add up ALL the costs of motoring. On a £20k car depreciation is (usually, excluding sometimes specialist cars) a significant cost. On a £2k car you don't need to worry about it.
I'm not sure what your point here is really. You can get the £4k financed cheaper using a personal loan if you want, but putting up strawman arguments based on what uninformed HUKD 15-year-olds say about buying new cars aren't terribly relevant - you need to consider how cars actually ARE sold, not how internet keyboard warriors think they are.
They aren't really comparable. The mileage charge is guaranteed, the repair cost is unknown.
My point is that if you are selling a used car minor damage isn't a problem. It is on a lease, and it should be part of your cost analysis.
Fair enough, but such posts as your always get about 300,000 likes so it's not quite as it seems - most people do understand that leases can be a good deal, clueless people just make more noise.
What I don't get is why people comment on a deal that they have no interest in? :confused:
You don't see me commenting on those Steam game computer deals. Why? Because I have no interest in it and don't intend purchasing the product.
Normally these lease cars require a £1200+ deposit and hot hatches like this start at £200 per month for 10k per year.
I'll ask again, has anyone else who have gone for this deal enquired about insurance and found the price to be whacked up massively when adding the lease company as the owners and registered keepers.
Best to check beforehand, especially if you are multi-car. It may be more beneficial to move insurers.
1. Admin fee already covered in subsequent posts.
2. Service costs for service alone, very comparable. For additional consumables, equally comparable, but perhaps more likely on a used vehicle that is closer to wearing out discs/pads/tyres.
3. Find me a £2k car that won't depreciate when doing 10k miles per year.
4. Who mentioned buying a used car for £3-£4k on finance? Oh - you did. Nobody else has. Dealer finance often double-digit and will still need a deposit comparable to an admin fee on a lase.
5. PCP - good point - but requires a deposit too. A valid comparison, but again, that's not the comparison people are attempting to make (note: buying a used car outright etc). See my other point on "gaps" for gap insurance. Note as well that *many* deals out there require minimum one payment up front. Just look around or ask - the firms are happy to help.
6. Additional mileage varies. Buyer beware, obviously. Usually 6-7ppm + VAT. My point is that your own used but perfectly good car, is mileage unlimited, with an increasing risk of repairs needed the higher you go. Also obvious.
7. Not sure what your point is, but common sense prevails: you don't borrow something, abuse/damage it and expect to give it back without recourse. Again, buyer beware, but BVRLA guidance can help you there. It's not all that bad.
8. See point 5 above. People often point out the "danger" of losing your up-front payment. I'd suggest gap insurance on any new car - leased or otherwise. It also makes sense on some used cars, but not all. I assume you know what gap insurance is, so will stop there.
9. My wife has to have a vehicle under 3 years old to qualify for car allowance. This is a case whereby she *needs* a new car at least once every three years. A big portion of firms stipulate similar rules. My point remains.
10. Sorry you don't understand. I won't try to elaborate any further, other than to say "exception to the rule" is written quite clearly for all to read. Sorry again if you missed that bit.
11. Also sorry if you struggle to grasp what is referred to as a "concept". Not sure what else to add here.
12. Bilge, perhaps. But less so than the other 99% of ill-informed posts.
Good day, sir :man:
The Laguna I paid £750 for did 4 years for a total of around £150 a year in depreciation (could have got more, but wanted a quick sale). Didn't service it as much as I should have, saving more money. About 35k miles in that time I think.
But, it wasn't a shiny new car with a shiny new number plate on, so wouldn't do well for the snobs :smiley:. Wasn't great on fuel. Still cost me a hell of a lot less over the time than friend's who bought new German diesel hatchbacks which were good on fuel at the same time.
From experience of others, there's still a good risk that you'll have problems with a new car that will end up with you spending time and possibly money getting sorted - for instance the people that have had hand brakes let go and the car roll in to other vehicles/a wall/etc.
Service costs on new cars likely to be lower.
Well not necessarily. You can easily buy a £2k car that doesn't depreciate over several years.
No it doesn't, ALL used car dealers LOVE people without cash, as they will finance it for you.
But you can do that without a lease, using PCP. And some leases have high upfront payments. Further, leases introduce other complications, such as 'gaps', e.g., if your car gets written off then essentially you have lost the value of your upfront payment.
Cashflow in today's 0.5% base rate market is not such a big issue for very many people.
Yes but you need to explain the added complexity of a mileage limit on leases. If you get a 5k lease and do 10k then that can be very expensive.
A used car isn't necessarily that easy to sell in fact. New cars on finance are not necessarily able to clear the finance. The cost of getting out of your lease won't exceed the remaining payments.
Also you forget that if you dent the panels and kerb the alloys on your £1k used car, you don't have to pay to repair it, but you have no choice about paying for damage to a leased car - and probably most of the time there WILL be damage.
Sorry you need to explain why this might be useful, it's just a meaningless buzzword otherwise.
Eh, it's not necessarily about not caring. You can buy a used S-Class for let's say £10k and stick a dateless number plate on it. There's no way to drive a new one (bought or leased) for that kind of cost. Yes, you'd rather have the newer one with better gadgets and fuel economy, but it costs so much that it's out of the question.
Most people don't *require* a new vehicle, unless you are a taxi driver or something.
Platinum my a***. It's not a simple equation like that at all.
If you rent a depreciating asset all you are doing is shifting around the cost of that deprciation. It doesn't, normally, make it cheaper. In fact it should make it more expensive because you are involving extra admin in the process. You still have to pay for the depreciation.
There are cases where cars go out for 2.5p, like this, because the manufacturer is dumping them on the leasing company rather than lose face by selling them for a pittance at retail. But that's not the rule at all.
If I want a particular style of car than a lease might be cheaper, it might not. You really have to consider ALL the costs, and that includes servicing, depeciation, cosmetic damage, and typical repair bills.
Most stupid argument in history. A hotel costs £15 million, I haven't got £15 million in the bank, I do have £2000 though. Plus whereas I will use a car every day for several years, I only need a hotel for a week.
And virtually NO-ONE, actually ties up 'vast sums of cold hard cash' when buying a new car. The overwhelming majority of new cars are financed, typically on PCP.
Moreover, the alternative to leasing or buying a new car is to buy a used one. Most people in this country can pay cash for a used car. That used car might cost £500, it might cost £5,000 or even £50,000.
I get it just fine, this is a very good deal, but you have spouted a lot of bilge and misleading information about lease in general.
Give it back and get on the bus... :-)
Better to keep quiet and let everyone assume you're an idiot, than open your mouth and confirm it.
Yes you can argue you are spending over £3K with nothing to show at the end of it, however my current car (that was bought used) has cost me around £4.5K over the last 2 years in depreciation, MOT costs, unplanned maintenance, etc, so this would be a better deal.
Perhaps to be more precise, hardly any people that have the cash to purchase outright will rent those products. It's fairly obvious what market Brighthouse is aiming for.
I hope you're not using "extended warranty" purchases to advocate leasing! They're the least savvy consumers of the lot. Read what Martin Lewis says about insurance and extended warranties.
I'm not going to go into a massive amount of detail on the finances, but MOTs and tax have been around £300. The 5% savings account you mention completely ignore tax btw.
All those things about engine compression etc might be true for all I know. But I do know it's mine and it's not a Peugeot. I'm happy with that.
If not, circa £50 a year for a middle-of-the-road policy will do it.
I said if i earned more this deal would be appealing to me. This deal is not for me but i dont have any problem with that. I can see that it can work out well for some people.
This should just about get me through my midlife crisis.
Wanted a Focus ST but too expensive,nearly bought a Kawasaki Z800 but didn't want to die so this for 18 months then a sensible boring plug in will do nicely.
And you didn't do a full check, I assume. In fact, for all we know, it could have been leased and drove in the red zone quite a lot and the engine compression might be 30% lower than what is should be. Which in turn might cost you 30% more in terms of fuel. Of course, I assume it is not a 200bhp horse power engine as the car in this deal, and it has no panoramic sunroof, satnav and so on? So why even compare the two?
Did you measure the break pads and discs before buying? If you did, congrats, most of us do not. Again a gamble.
Also, you seem to forget you had to have £7k cash in the first place! Invested in a 100% risk-free bank account with 5% interest, this would earn you another £700 (more actually) in interest in the two years.
You also paid for MOTs, road tax about £600 during the two years.
You gambled £7000 or your money in a second hand car that could die on you soon after (and still can, as you have no warranty). Some people pay extra for warranty for their phones, let alone for their cars.
You assume you will get £5000 for it... but you don't know actually. You will have to prepare the car for sale, post an add (£60 on Autotrader) and wait for the tire-kickers...
But add the numbers up, I find you didn't come out cheaper in the end.
I'm sure you've read the 'professional' reviews on line. They usually end with "it's all the car you'll ever need". I'm inclined to agree to the point I'm saddened at the idea of having to hand it back, but then I get a nice new car again...so hey ho!
If you sift through HUKD you'll find this was a big deal - I ended up paying £172 pcm + VAT. Yes you read that correctly (6+23, 5k, XS @ 6p + VAT).
HTH - feel free to PM if you want more information
Barbs
Also, the £9/hour you earn now, is that money in hand? Cause you might actually earn much more but a part you don't see, because it goes into your tax/pension, but it is still money earned, that is yours or will be yours in various tax credits/pension and such.
My point was that not everybody can or have to or should try to become car mechanics/traders just to save some money, as their time would be much better spent in their field of expertise.
I'll give you an example based on my old banger, a Mazda 6 2004, compared to a 2 years lease:
- Road tax: Mazda: £580/2 years. Lease: 0.
- MOT: Mazda: £80/2years + repairs. If it passes MOT. Considering the new rules regarding corrosion, it won't. Lease: 0. Time spent to do the MOTs: too long. Plus repairs: too long again.
- break-down cover: Mazda: £80/2years. Lease: 0.
- Fuel: Mazda: quite a lot, not the best on fuel. Lease: lots of cars achieve 2x better mpg now.
- Tires: I am always finding hard to justify spending on new tires for a car that is near it's end of life and never know if it would pass next MOT. Lease: included.
- safety: well, braking on this car is weak, what do you expect... it's an old car. Tires are so-so. Shock absorbers play an important role in the breaking distance, guess what, they are not new either! How much would you price that?
You get the idea... make your calculations before dismissing leasing. This is for a 200bhp car, with the latest gadgets, but there are even cheaper deals, for as low as £80/months.
You hand the car back, then some poor HUKDer who loves owning used cars has to change the brake pads within a few months and their turbo has gone a couple of years down the line...
A car isn't used the minute you turn the engine on. How else do they check it works before delivery?!
The market for renting cars is huge. That's why it's a competitive market.
Renting from Brighthouse is not as competitive. Reasons? People don't often sell TV's and sofas after two-three years. If we were all as materialistic on such goods - like cars - we'd see a competitive marketplace.
The rule is valid, but doesn't mean it is easily applied in day-to-day life. It is in business. And a lot of people on here understand that - so can see why it's relevant to this car deal. Instead of picking holes in the facts of depreciation, focus on that :smiley:
The worth of "new" is a subjective and personal thing. Your new car becomes used the minute you turn the engine on.
Let's ignore my puerile comment about underpants.
Why don't people rent their furniture and electrical goods if renting is best?
This might sound irrelevant, but the answer might give you a clue as to why not everyone wants to lease...and it's not because they're too stupid to understand the financial side of things.
Second of all, you're comparing a used car with a new car? :confused:
The general rule for leasing is to treat it like you would your own car: you'd pay for repairs on your fully owned car as well, but probably wouldn't care much for stone chips and a minor ding. I personally wait for a few to be incurred and get them sorted at once for economies of scale :smiley:
It says things like scratches can be up to 1-2cm etc (I've plucked that figure off the top of my head) but if you've seen the document you'll know what I'm talking about!
I know its been posted in threads countless times but I dont have the link.
In fact I did something similar. Bought an immaculate Mini for £7k a couple of years ago. Probably worth about £5k now. Sailed through two MOTs, had a major service, other than that hasn't been anywhere near a garage.
I can afford something better now but I love the little thing. It's mine. Where's the love in leasing eh?
Resale is not ignored on used vehicles, as I pointed out: they still depreciate (circa 30% a year average), and this is reflected in the risk vs reward argument. If you have a star car, excellent - minimal costs involved! But your cash is still tied up regardless.
£166 p/m for lease vs loan, well, if you can find finance that is cheaper than a lease on a new car over the same time period, you should post it as a deal, as it will be scorching hot :smiley: Otherwise your principle is correct. But finance is usually a lot more expensive than leasing - even more so on used cars (interest rates).
Re affording repayments - I think the benefit here is that there are no surprises, costs are fixed. If you cant afford the repayments then you should NEVER take out the credit. I guess you could lose your job leading to financial problems, but then you could end up with a massive used car repair bill and not afford that, so there are potential financial pitfalls to both.
Re owning at the end- good point, for these repayments over 24 months you would be able to borrow around £3000. Then the car would need no further repayments, but potentially more additional costs in maintenance.
Most cars depreciate at a 30% p/a basis. Not all, but most - when driven and serviced typically. This is how most businesses account for ownership on PPE.
Many leases require a small admin fee and only 1 month deposit up front. Small lump sum, agreed, but not the full cost of the vehicle in advance.
GAP is not mandatory on leasing. Check out the insurance ombudsman - it's not even legal for them to enforce you take it out. I have checked. They suggest you do, however, but you don't have to take it. You are at risk, of course.
Work purposes - lease deals are not restrictive to only x miles - many deals can be found for higher mileage requirements - the principles on leasing are still 100% valid for those who want new cars. 20k miles a year from new, will still be efficient compared to buying outright.
When handing back, your lease firm should adhere to leasing with BVRLA. If they don't, buyer beware. BVRLA set guidance on cosmetic damage that is very lenient. Check it out. Private buyers are less likely to be as forgiving.
http://www.bvrla.co.uk/
Modifications...well, that's personal preference. I wouldn't dream of them. It is for a certain demographic who enjoy that sort of thing and 99% of those people don't buy new to modify. Always exception to the rule, however.
Tyres, yes that's valid. But service packages can be added to lease deals to cover this for additional monthly payments. I have a service deal that is £300 over the 20k miles term of the deal. It covers maintenance and tyres over that time, which at a main dealer would be £500 or service charges and £600 for one full set of "original" tyres. That's my scenario, YMMV. But yes, you're right - many stipulate the original tyres. Expect to pay £150 per corner versus £50-£100 for other brands of reputable quality (as an average). Over two years, assuming one full set of tyres at around £75 premium, that's £300 more on a lease.
That £300 would normally pay for most of a service package. No brainer in my opinion, so thanks for pointing it out :smiley:
I understand your point but you're assuming just because something is new it's automatically better than something used. This is only ever the case with underwear. Certainly a used VW is infinitely better than a new Peugeot.
Not a bad deal though if you don't mind driving a Peugeot. You'll forever be quickly adding the words "it's a GTI though" every time someone asks you what you drive. And you'll always feel a little dirty.
Cash flow is king for businesses, not people. People are more complex.
And anyway, let's assume you were right about not being able to rent things. That would you mean you just invented a rule that is impossible to follow - by your own admittance! To follow your rule, what exactly are you suggesting people rent? Other than cars obviously.
Either way, this whole argument is ignoring resale value of vehicles. If I purchase a vehicle now that will be worth £3000 less in 18 months, then financially it is the same. If you use finance then it's also the same in terms of cash flow.
What's the difference between paying £166 a month for a lease and £166 a month to finance a loan? There isn't one.
Similarly, businesses have options to lease more things than the standard consumer, so that means the rule applies. Many businesses rent, rather than buy, due to how they can report things on the balance sheet and see cash benefits. The same is not always applicable to the general consumer, but cash flow is king. If you can successfully argue against this, consider yourself a revolutionary economist and go fetch a Nobel Prize.
Nobody has said that this lease will impress anyone (you're obviously bothered by a brand - good for you)
Good for you on being a risk-taker. We need more people like you, or lease deals wouldn't exist - my heartfelt thanks go out to you.
* This is a NEW car, not used Correct
* Depreciation on a new car bought outright will be MORE than what the lease cost is over 18 months on this car. Correct (usually)
* No registration fee to pay on the car's first year of tax correct, as the owner is the lease company
* No VED to pay on new leased car correct
* Used cars a bit older will need MOT only cars that a 3+ years older
* Both old and new will need a service! correct, though very old cars will often be MUCH cheaper to service (but more unreliable)
* Old cars ... ALSO DEPRECIATE! Good god -no surprise there, so don't ignore it Correct, but exponentially less than a brand new car
* Buying a used car for £3-£4k requires £3-£4k of cash up-front (i.e. NOW!). That is money you need to either save, or tie up in your vehicle. A risk - especially if your valuation of your car is not what someone else is prepared to pay. It works both ways, however! A lease also requires cash up front as a non-refundable deposit/admin fees.
* Leased cars (new, I might add!) spread costs out over the term of the lease. This is called cash-flow. This is fundamental to business and life in general. Smooth cash flow, means a smooth life. No bottle-necks. Fine as long as you can afford the repayments in a years time!
* Both new/old need insurance Correct
* Old car bought outright means as much mileage as you like, but increased likelihood of repairs required for incremental mileage correct
* You can sell your used/owned outright car at any time. A lease is a contract. A contract is legally binding. They're not easy to get out of. Buyer beware. correct
* Both cars can make use of GAP insurance. correct, though if you own the car you don't need GAP, if you lease it, its usually MANDATORY
* Used cars are not the most recent model in many cases. Some people don't care and view cars as a simple tool. Others may require to be in a newer vehicle for work purposes. People have different wants and needs.correct, as people using for work purposes will often find the mileage is too restricting on Lease deals.
******Other factors you forgot to mention******
* Any damage that is done to the lease car will be charged for upon return. Please be careful in supermarket car parks!
* There are usually clauses that state you must use parts that are of equal specification (e.g premium tyres) upon returning
* If you buy, you OWN the car - you can do what you like to it (modifications/upgrades etc). You cannot modify a lease car in any way, shape or form
* If you buy, once the car is paid off (if bought on finance), you then feel the full benefits of owning as you wont have large monthly outgoings to pay for the car anymore.
Golden rules for everyone:
If you can't afford the payments, don't do it!
If you don't want a NEW car, don't do it!
If you want to take the risks on buying a used car and the associated benefits of it being reliable and costing next to nil to maintain, before selling onwards, don't do it!
If you don't understand, don't do it!
ALSO:
If you are worried about possible damage to the lease car, don't do it!
If you have concerns about your financial stability, don't do it!
Platinum rules for everyone:
If it appreciates, BUY IT.
If it depreciates, RENT IT.
n.b. there are occasional exceptions to the rule. Cars are not really one of those exceptions.
ALSO:
If you are a high mileage user, DON'T RENT it.
If you're still unsure:
Think of a holiday. You spend £2000+. At the end of it, you don't get to keep the hotel to sell on. Nor the swimming pool, aircraft or airport. You have nothing to show for it except a tan if you're lucky. You have had the benefit of enjoyment.
A car is not dissimilar. Lease deals are great for people who want new cars and don't want to tie up vast sums of cold, hard cash up-front. Plain and simple facts. Easy.If you STILL don't get it:
Log out, and don't try and reply. Ever. On a lease deal. There is no hope for you.tldr; these deals get hot for a reason. If you don't understand, put some time aside and try to, before spouting utter nonsense and garbage.
Final note: I agree with much of what you say, but there are Pro's and Cons to both buying and renting that need to be pointed out fully, not just the advantages of renting/disadvantages of owning.
The only thing that costs money that really appreciates is property. Everything else starts losing value when you buy it.
Do you rent your computers, phones, furniture, clothes, tools, crockery....I could go on like this for a while, but I'm sure you get the point.
Essentially lease deals are for people who like to play it safe. You get a bog standard car (new or not, you're not impressing anyone with a Peugeot hatchback) but you know what it's going to cost over X months.
For other people who are happy to play the risk/reward game, they know they could potentially get a much better car. For a lot of people, servicing etc comes secondary to how nice the car actually is. Personally I'll take the small risk of buying a dud to potentially get a really good car for the same money.
Smartphone - cold, you can get a nokia for a tenner
Smart Watch - cold you can get a casio for £6.99 that does the same thing
Branded T shirt - cold, can get one in Primark for £2, but wait that's even colder due to slave labour
Soft Toilet paper - cold, use yesterdays tabloid
There is a big difference between Need and Want, some people just want (what they perceive to be better) and are fortunate enough to have the finances to do it, let them enjoy it. I would have loved the Audi lease that came up, but its above my pay grade, so regardless of the depreciation, its great for those after it.
I dont know why people take someone else's differing opinion on the matter in such a personal way? It cant be good for them.
There are obviously pros and cons to different approaches, people have different needs and preferences too.
For those who understand lease deals: Great deal, right? Might not be a suitable car for you personally, but no denying the financials! Good work, have a gold star. Feel content that you aren't being completely backward in refusing to understand differing points of view.
For those who DON'T understand leasing (and that appears to be a LOT of you):
* This is a NEW car, not used
* Depreciation on a new car bought outright will be MORE than what the lease cost is over 18 months on this car.
* No registration fee to pay on the car's first year of tax
* No VED to pay on new leased car
* Used cars a bit older will need MOT
* Both old and new will need a service!
* Old cars ... ALSO DEPRECIATE! Good god -no surprise there, so don't ignore it
* Buying a used car for £3-£4k requires £3-£4k of cash up-front (i.e. NOW!). That is money you need to either save, or tie up in your vehicle. A risk - especially if your valuation of your car is not what someone else is prepared to pay. It works both ways, however!
* Leased cars (new, I might add!) spread costs out over the term of the lease. This is called cash-flow. This is fundamental to business and life in general. Smooth cash flow, means a smooth life. No bottle-necks.
* Both new/old need insurance
* Old car bought outright means as much mileage as you like, but increased likelihood of repairs required for incremental mileage
* You can sell your used/owned outright car at any time. A lease is a contract. A contract is legally binding. They're not easy to get out of. Buyer beware.
* Both cars can make use of GAP insurance.
* Used cars are not the most recent model in many cases. Some people don't care and view cars as a simple tool. Others may require to be in a newer vehicle for work purposes. People have different wants and needs.
Golden rules for everyone:
If you can't afford the payments, don't do it!
If you don't want a NEW car, don't do it!
If you want to take the risks on buying a used car and the associated benefits of it being reliable and costing next to nil to maintain, before selling onwards, don't do it!
If you don't understand, don't do it!
Platinum rules for everyone:
If it appreciates, BUY IT.
If it depreciates, RENT IT.
n.b. there are occasional exceptions to the rule. Cars are not really one of those exceptions.
If you're still unsure:
Think of a holiday. You spend £2000+. At the end of it, you don't get to keep the hotel to sell on. Nor the swimming pool, aircraft or airport. You have nothing to show for it except a tan if you're lucky. You have had the benefit of enjoyment.
A car is not dissimilar. Lease deals are great for people who want new cars and don't want to tie up vast sums of cold, hard cash up-front. Plain and simple facts. Easy.
If you STILL don't get it:
Log out, and don't try and reply. Ever. On a lease deal. There is no hope for you.
tldr; these deals get hot for a reason. If you don't understand, put some time aside and try to, before spouting utter nonsense and garbage.
Let's take Mini as an example. A lot of those cars come with a five year TLC package, which includes servicing. You can get models that will still have that remaining for 18 months, with around 10,000 on the clock, for £10-11k. I'd take a low mileage 2-3 year old Mini over a Peugeot any day.
Personally I would much rather get a good car that cost a lot more brand new than something bland and generic like this one.
Here's some inspiration: Honest John / Top 25 Used Cars for £10k
Also, remember....£10k was a figure I plucked randomly. Anything you can buy now and sell for £3200 less (minus any finance costs) in 18 months can compete with this deal. Could easily do this with £15k cars
works out to £2876.86 over 18 months
If i purchased a new Peugeot 208 gti now for £20,000, kept if for 6 years and then sold it for a realistic £5000 (probably less?) it would have cost me, in very basic terms, £15000 for that car's ownership - excluding the obvious maintenance, insurance, tax, petrol, etc.
It would need MOT's and possibly additional maintenance in those years as it aged, which would probably increase with time - cambelts, plugs, tyres, etc
Alternatively, in that 6 years, I could take 4 of these lease deals at a total cost of around £13000 - would possibly increase slightly, but not by much.
I could keep the same type of vehicle or even change manufactures and specs. It would always be under warranty, have no MOT costs and would be brand new every 18 months.
The running costs with a new car would probably be cheaper, especially when changed every 18 months
Am I missing something obvious?
And, in an extremely selfless act, I am letting people buy my 'fully tested' (read that 'redlined in every gear change') 208gti every 18 months :smiley:
Seems like a cracking way to own a new car if that is how you normally motor?
- road tax (every year)
- MOT (every year)
- repairs (as you have no warranty)
- breakdown cover (every year)
- time (is money) to research for the car to buy and to sell later on and deal with the above (MOT it is taking a few good hours)
- safety (definetely a new car will have better breakes)
- fuel (better economy on new cars)
Read no further.
All arguments as to what else you could buy are just a waste of time because if some one finds this for them then it's a, nearly said a rude word there, good deal.
(btw: Yes, I know.) :wink:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/comparison/2013/ford-fiesta-st-vs-renaultsport-clio-200-vs-peugeot-208-gti-giant-test/
Still a terrific little hot hatch though that Peugeot.
What you should have been looking for is cars that would depreciate by roughly £3200 over the same period (perhaps deducting the cost of finance if required).
i.e buy a £10k used car and sell it for £7k in 18 months.
That's more what people do in reality.
You always forget to mention important aspects when comparing costs, wanting a new car it is not just about being a snob. Most people already had their share of second hand cars and know what they involve.
A second hand car costing per year less than this per month? Seriously? The road tax alone would be more than that. On a leased car, road tax is zero, on a second hand car is anything up to 300. And what about MOT? Another £40 but how often will an old car pass it considering the new regulations regarding corrosion and emission and bushes, that are no longer advisories but fails?
And what about warranty? Is your buddy buddy mechanic going to sign a document to warranty the repairs and the car for 2 years (which is the duration of the leasing usually).
And what about tires? With a second hand car, it is easy, you want brand new tyres, you have to buy them, there is no other way, nobody will sell their car right after they put tires on it. And they are the thing that connect you to the road, and helping you not die in an emergency!
some people put a cost on their lifes and the ones of their children, a second hand car, with older tech, older tires, older brakes (that usually under-perform, usually at 60% the initial breaking efficiency, which is already lower compared to the efficiency of a new high performance car), all these combined, often results in 20m or more breaking distance.
Just give it a rest man, people got your point, for you, a second hand car is better, as along as you said you are willing to study how to repair a car, how to buy a car, how to sell it... some people are paid £20/hour in their respective field and don't want to repair cars, or deal with dubious sellers, and then with dubious buyers... Between researching buying options, researching what would make a good second hand car, servicing it after buying, and then posting an add, paying for an add (it is £60 for an add on Autotrader by the way! Why not add that to the costs??), and then dealing with buyers, I would rather prefer having a new car. What is one supposed to do, take time off work to meet buyers?
There are also other advantages, like having free breakdown cover included, better fuel economy, better handling, better and more toys on the car (look at the sat nav in this deal, I know I would be getting the latest maps and technology) etc..
You were already educated by others that you can earn another £280 during the period for the £3200 you could keep in the bank instead of investing in a second hand car. Add them all up, you will end up paying the same or less, but for a brand new car, much safer, fun to drive, clean, reliable.
Seriously, just skip one lease deal if you can... make it a will power exercise.
VS - Dealt with in a clear and concise manner , got my acceptance back to me very quickly .
I know the whole debate regards set up fees if rife , in my opinon its well worth paying a little more for the serivce @ VS.
So what I did was use an example of opening 2 x TSB Plus accounts (one sole and one joint), placing £2000 in one and £1200 in another. Then by using the drip feed method, placing £300 per month into a 6% regular saver.
If you did this over 18 months then you'd earn £270ish gross interest - of course, adjust accordingly if you're a basic/higher rate taxpayer.
So the M&S regular saver would net you another £153?
Not disputing, would just like to see how you do it?
LED TV deal cold because you could buy a secondhand had 23" CRT telly cheaper?
Or on a deal for a box of Kellogg's Cornflakes? Cold because you could have bought Tesco's own-brand rice crispies cheaper instead?
A deal is a deal if it's the cheapest price for THE SAME ITEM.
Some people seem to suffer from keyboard incontinence and can't just scroll past a deal that's not suited to them.
Instead they have to dribble out some pearls of wisdom which are frankly no help to anyone and would be better kept inside their little heads.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. (Abraham Lincoln)
Some users will be in debt whilst others will have £100k+ sitting in the bank. It's a site for everyone to suit everyone's needs.
A great deal on a Merc C63 AMG will be voted hot, as will 20p off some satsumas at Tesco. A Justin Bieber deal on the other hand....
This looks like a great deal, have glanced through the thread, and probably being dumb, but would you contact your insurance provider and ask for an 18month quote on a deal like this? Or just do a 12month and ask for an additional 6 months? Or is insurance included ?
I'd also advise you get GAP insurance from someone like http://www.ala.co.uk which will cover you the car is written off.
Terrible cars.
A used car for £3200 will be either old or high mileage or a low spec crap model, you'll be lucky to get a 1 owner full history car for that price. So, in the best case, after 18 months, you are probably correct. But the worst case is that it goes wrong, you are forced to spend £500 to fix it, then something else goes wrong etc etc - so £166 a month to not have that risk is good value for many people, if they also value a new car on their drive, why not? Its their money.
And I say this as someone who accepts a high level of risk, I tend to buy used high mileage cars, one owner, full history, 4/5 years old. It works for me - but I know that I could get a massive garage bill at some point.
Hot deal - perfect to fill the gap for me whilst moving house.
Please post this type of car and I'm sure it will become the hottest deal of all time - £400 for 15,000 miles of driving is well worth the money.
Sick of this hotukleases crap these days.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/brand-new-nissan-qashqai-only-12-867-save-4010-1693500
Even with higher fuel consumption and paying higher tax for 18 months, you're still likely considerably better off. Also quite likely can get considerably cheaper insurance.
Always amused when people decide to buy a new car to 'save money', when likely they could keep using their old 'less efficient' car for considerably less 'Total Cost of Ownership'.
Sure, if you want the status of driving around in a new car (even if it is a fast shopping cart), fair enough - but don't try and justify the choice with it being a money-saver.
I bought a Octavia VRS for £1200 banged some new tyres on it. So call it £1500, and its needed nothing but a service since 2 years owndership.
That said, it will be due a cambelt end of this year which cost around £300 with a service.
Clearly those people would never consider a lease deal and prefer their motors fully-owned with an MOT and all the problems that comes with - and that's fine and everything, it's called an opinion and I respect that, but what the hell has it got to do with this deal? Leasing and owning are 2 seperate things. What is there not to understand here?
This is a hot deal with regards leasing and should be voted as such. Not voted cold because of it's total irrelevance to buying something outright.
Voted Hot becasue it's a great lease deal.
2015 208 GTi 0k £20,000
2014 208 GTi 6k £14,000 £500/m
2013 208 GTI 18k £12,000 £167/m
2009 207 GTi 25k £6,000 £125/m
So for a new car it beats the depreciation, without the outlay, therefore hot in my book. This does not even take into account interest in your bank if you have the money, or interest on the loan if you don't. Or the favorable mileages listed.
If you're looking at purchasing cars over 3 years old, that's a completely different circumstance and does not apply to this deal.
1. My point above
2. £3200 for a BRAND NEW CAR (allbeit 18 months) That you won't loose anything on, need to spend a penny on apart maintenance and wear and tear. I'd be surprised if you even need tyres if you stick within 10k allowance.
Delivery of these cars is likely to be around August though...
edit* i'll add I'm not against leasing in general but you can't really compare like to like for 2nd hand cars. i.e. I normally have a decent weekend car and a "run-around" for going to/from work (and a classic car for summer and one for the wife... anyway) the run-around almost always costs me circa £1000, I'll run it for a year then more often than not sell it on again for the same money or very close to it. once or twice I've even made a profit (including mot costs etc.) if you can find a good one cheap enough initially.
'Rent depreciating assets' - this car would probably depreciate more than the cost of this deal over this period. It's peace of mind, covered by warranty, and a monthly payment that people can afford. Plus it's very nice to have a new car with all the latest tech.
Hot deal OP, vote from me
May be a cheaper way of owning the car from new outright if that's your thing.
Lets see what I can find...
First up here's a BMW (WOW!): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-BMW-330D-Manual-6-speed-M-sport-black-/141681671980?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20fce2bf2c
Oh wait, it's done 160,000 miles. Oh wait it costs £225 to tax a year. Oh wait it only does 42mpg. Oh wait it's only got 4 NCAP stars instead of 5. Oh wait it costs a million pounds to service and will need an MOT doing. Hmm, it's also a 12 year old BMW, people will probably think you're a drug dealer and probably not even a very good one.
Okay, lets try again!
Next up here's another Hot Hatch: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seat-leon-cupra-1-8t-low-miles-/331570473448?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d3323e9e8
Oh wait, it only does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds. Oh wait it only does 33mpg. Oh wait it costs £290 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait this model is so old it doesn't even have an NCAP rating.
Okay, lets try again!
Let's try for another Hot Hatch: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Civic-Type-R-EP3-2002-Black-/171811676020?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2800c61f74
0-60 in 6.4 seconds? Check! Oh wait, it only does 31mpg. Oh wait it costs £290 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait this model is so old it doesn't even have an NCAP rating. And it needs a load of work doing. We nailed the speed though!
Try again? Okay!
We were close with a Hot Hatch, lets try just once more: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-Renault-Clio-Sport-182-Anthracite-Wheels-A-C-Cruise-Control-Arctic-Blue-/281707978729?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item41971a9fe9
0-60 in 6.9? Check! Oh wait it only does 34mpg. Oh wait it costs £265 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait it only has 4 NCAP stars.
****! Sorry, I give up.
Go and buy a decent used sandwich from a colleague at work for a fraction of the price. Granary bread tends to be the most reliable and filling...
Critical thinking needs to be taught at school IMO.
It's got really boring.
I own my car outright but am considering a lease - but silly me has been doing all these things with my used car too. I hadn't realised they weren't really needed and I have been wasting my money.
there are other advantages to a new car like lower road tax and better fuel economy. offset these against the lease price and it's cheaper still.
I've always bought older cars outright and they do cost less month on month but until the depriciation hits rock bottom it is costing you month on month.
this calculator is good, I've tried it with my 2nd hand bought outright car vs lease car deals and the difference per month is not much (yet I'm driving a 7 year old 60k car....not a new one!!!)
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-1633412/Calculator-True-cost-running-car.html
Incredible deal, although 18months is an odd term length
so if you are after a new car and have a spare £20k don't spend it on a new car keep saving and buy a house
MY GF's Son spends over £400 PM on public transport to get to work 15 miles away and can take an hr each way, 4 hrs at weekends to pick his boy up, ill be talking to him again about a deal like this.
I hope you do realise that a car depreciates so as soon as you drive a new car off the forecourt, it would've lost thousands. A new car like this 208 GTi would probably lose around 35% of its value, if not more, in the first 2 years and that would be more than what the lease payments would be.
New cars aren't immune of course but they are less likely and you are covered by warranty regardless.
I don't understand that logic at all. Yes it's worked for 5 years but you don't always know the entire history of a car such as how it was driven, maintained etc. There's also the fact that things wear over time, the next 5 years are using parts that have been used for 5 years already. You can't say that their durability and reliability will be just as good as a result of that and if it does go wrong, the savings you made on a used car start to dwindle.
Eyes wide open - wallet carefully prepared ;0
But as you've brought it up, how is a new car more reliable than say a 5 year old, 40,000 mile car? is the new somehow magically better and wont suddenly break down? are new cars immune from having serious problems from day one? id go as far to say the 5 year old car would be more reliable, due to the fact its been used for 5 years and 40,000 miles without issue, has gone through 2 MOTs and multiple services. where as the new car is an unknown entity, and although it may have been built to spec, has had a PDI, its still unknown as to whether its going to be reliable at that point.
Voted hot - as its a great deal when you factor in buying a new car.
However - it's not for me I am far too frugal/tight for a deal like this.
We bought a 4 year old peugeot 207 4 years ago for £3900 it has been a good reliable car and if I sold it now I would probably get £2250 back - so in my case its cost me £1650 over 4 years - about £450/500 a year after road fund (£30 a year and tyres)
However, if I could afford it and was less frugal I would accept this deal no doubt about it whatsoever - a mate of mine relates lease deals to car hire and this car would be costing less than £6 per day over the 18 months obviously insurance on top of that figure for us I would guestimate 500 ish to insure so an extra 1.50 on top of that... £7.50 a day to lease this caris an absolute bargain and I'm nearly talking myself into it.
incredible deal
Seems fair.
Their cars had vandal damage (they can't ignore it, it must be fixed before the car is returned or you'll get a HUGE bill), needed the brakes doing, one needed an exhaust section (damaged by hitting something) and one had a badly kerbed wheel. I think one of the cars also had a "pollution alarm" (Peugeot) which was a small fortune to fix at a dealer but there are ways of making it disappear for a while ;0
Maybe they're careless but this lease is just for the car, you will have consumables/servicing - tyres if you drive it as it's intended - and anything you damage to cover at least.
The "second hand cars can be expensive" thing is often an excuse people use when they really just want a 'new car' too. Sure, second-hand cars can end-up costing money but the majority of big bills come to people who buy unwisely or ignore minor faults until they become major ones - they get attached to the car instead of knowing when to bail - that can be expansive but dealer cars/warranties etc. all cost money so...
If they have new cars then why do they have to have expensive work done on them. New cars are covered by warranties, another advantage with these lease deals on new cars. It's hassle free motoring in a brand new car.
A combination of TSB's 5% current account and M&S Bank's /First Direct's 6% regular saver would achieve this.
Cold from me
I hardly drive long distances, unless we go away for the weekend. However even I do 10k a year alone
He challenged them over their cars - why are you spending all this money, I could put you both into tidy cars which would cost less a YEAR than you're spending a month on these things.
He was keen enough - but she said no because
"People at work would see I'm driving an old car and I don't want people to see me driving an old car and I don't want to get into an old car when he's driving either"
"But you can't actually afford these cars, you cannot afford to repair them, you're here having it bodged!! - wouldn't you rather have 2 cars and some spare cash??"
"No - I like having a new car"
Fine - if you can afford it - ruinous if you can't.
You're locked-into repaying the whole cost WHATEVER happens really. If you lose your income you can't just sell the car to get out of the deal because it's not yours to sell - if you need more miles they're pricey - if you need a bigger car you can't just upgrade - it's yours for 18 months and £3200 is required whatever happens.
£3200 for 18 months of driving is actually quite pricey - a wisely bought used car will cost a fraction of that - a really wily customer (the sort of people who relish HOT DEALS) will run a car for less again ;0
It does seem cheap for a lot of car but it's not without it's downsides - ideally you should have the whole cost put to one side - earning interest - then it's less of a risk (tho as a friend discovered, when your wife gets pregnant, that 2 seater sportscar you're stuck with for 5 months of your child's life isn't ideal!!)
p.s. some people say insurance is pricier for leased cars but I've never really noticed much difference...
2nd hand cars are cheaper to buy than new ones.
Sure glad I browsed on here tonight, that gem might have passed me by.
It always makes me laugh when you see 18 year olds in new cars like this, its the height of stupidity, and the start of a painful debt riddled life.
Not for me, but i'm sure plenty who like money to run through their fingers will snap them up.
3k for the use of something for 18 months? no ta
One of the best lease deals have seen in a decade! :man:
And your talking to someone who keeps a 407 on the road single handed and believe me, its no fun, too tight to change it at the moment though :stuck_out_tongue:
Of course you need to be able to check-out a car, maintain a car, sell a car - but hey, everyone learns somehow ;0
Am i missing something or has it got even cheaper?
not £3196.36
£2665.36 is unaccounted for......
Per month!!!
It's accounted for. :wink:
Spec should be standard as per Peugeot website for the GTi Prestige 3dr.
Voted hot.