I'm gonna have a look now for the idiots who can't handle it. See what I can buy for £3,200 that does 0-60mph in under 7 seconds, does 47mpg or more, costs £130 or less a year to tax, and has a 5 Star NCAP rating.

Lets see what I can find...

First up here's a BMW (WOW!): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-BMW-330D-Manual-6-speed-M-sport-black-/141681671980?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20fce2bf2c

Oh wait, it's done 160,000 miles. Oh wait it costs £225 to tax a year. Oh wait it only does 42mpg. Oh wait it's only got 4 NCAP stars instead of 5. Oh wait it costs a million pounds to service and will need an MOT doing. Hmm, it's also a 12 year old BMW, people will probably think you're a drug dealer and probably not even a very good one.

Okay, lets try again!

Next up here's another Hot Hatch: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seat-leon-cupra-1-8t-low-miles-/331570473448?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d3323e9e8

Oh wait, it only does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds. Oh wait it only does 33mpg. Oh wait it costs £290 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait this model is so old it doesn't even have an NCAP rating.

Okay, lets try again!

Let's try for another Hot Hatch: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Civic-Type-R-EP3-2002-Black-/171811676020?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2800c61f74

0-60 in 6.4 seconds? Check! Oh wait, it only does 31mpg. Oh wait it costs £290 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait this model is so old it doesn't even have an NCAP rating. And it needs a load of work doing. We nailed the speed though!

Try again? Okay!

We were close with a Hot Hatch, lets try just once more: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-Renault-Clio-Sport-182-Anthracite-Wheels-A-C-Cruise-Control-Arctic-Blue-/281707978729?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item41971a9fe9

0-60 in 6.9? Check! Oh wait it only does 34mpg. Oh wait it costs £265 a year to tax. Oh wait it'll need MOT every year. Oh wait it only has 4 NCAP stars.

****! Sorry, I give up.

This sort of thread really gets me moist :smile:

For those who understand lease deals: Great deal, right? Might not be a suitable car for you personally, but no denying the financials! Good work, have a gold star. Feel content that you aren't being completely backward in refusing to understand differing points of view.

For those who DON'T understand leasing (and that appears to be a LOT of you):
* This is a NEW car, not used
* Depreciation on a new car bought outright will be MORE than what the lease cost is over 18 months on this car.
* No registration fee to pay on the car's first year of tax
* No VED to pay on new leased car
* Used cars a bit older will need MOT
* Both old and new will need a service!
* Old cars ... ALSO DEPRECIATE! Good god -no surprise there, so don't ignore it
* Buying a used car for £3-£4k requires £3-£4k of cash up-front (i.e. NOW!). That is money you need to either save, or tie up in your vehicle. A risk - especially if your valuation of your car is not what someone else is prepared to pay. It works both ways, however!
* Leased cars (new, I might add!) spread costs out over the term of the lease. This is called cash-flow. This is fundamental to business and life in general. Smooth cash flow, means a smooth life. No bottle-necks.
* Both new/old need insurance
* Old car bought outright means as much mileage as you like, but increased likelihood of repairs required for incremental mileage
* You can sell your used/owned outright car at any time. A lease is a contract. A contract is legally binding. They're not easy to get out of. Buyer beware.
* Both cars can make use of GAP insurance.
* Used cars are not the most recent model in many cases. Some people don't care and view cars as a simple tool. Others may require to be in a newer vehicle for work purposes. People have different wants and needs.

Golden rules for everyone:
If you can't afford the payments, don't do it!
If you don't want a NEW car, don't do it!
If you want to take the risks on buying a used car and the associated benefits of it being reliable and costing next to nil to maintain, before selling onwards, don't do it!
If you don't understand, don't do it!

Platinum rules for everyone:
If it appreciates, BUY IT.
If it depreciates, RENT IT.
n.b. there are occasional exceptions to the rule. Cars are not really one of those exceptions.

If you're still unsure:
Think of a holiday. You spend £2000+. At the end of it, you don't get to keep the hotel to sell on. Nor the swimming pool, aircraft or airport. You have nothing to show for it except a tan if you're lucky. You have had the benefit of enjoyment.

A car is not dissimilar. Lease deals are great for people who want new cars and don't want to tie up vast sums of cold, hard cash up-front. Plain and simple facts. Easy.

If you STILL don't get it:
Log out, and don't try and reply. Ever. On a lease deal. There is no hope for you.

tldr; these deals get hot for a reason. If you don't understand, put some time aside and try to, before spouting utter nonsense and garbage.

Life lesson:

2nd hand cars are cheaper to buy than new ones.

Sure glad I browsed on here tonight, that gem might have passed me by.

£3 for a sandwich?! And what do you have to show for it at the end? Trapped wind...

Go and buy a decent used sandwich from a colleague at work for a fraction of the price. Granary bread tends to be the most reliable and filling...

New car was ment to be delivered today but after chasing I have been told that they have found some damage and it won't be delivered toaday.

Anyone else had this, if so how long will the delay be and will I get anything extra for waiting?.

Same, with any luck i'll have the car this time next week!

Finaly received them today

I had the same on Friday morning but radio silence since then

Had an email from NVS saving dealer is prepairing them today.

Hopefully receive them on Monday

They'll have a busy week next week by the sounds of it, didn't get them through today.

Having the same issue, car goes back on the 12th April and been told I need to take the new car delivery before the tax change on 31st March.

I said that will be OK

Finance docs should have been with me last Monday but still not had them.

I can't do without a car as I need it for work.

Only a scuffed alloy for me, £65 charge - hopefully be waived as it was only small.

Having a nightmare getting the new car delivered by NVS, after being told it was 2 weeks away from delivery at the start of February i'm still chasing for them to raise the finance paperwork (2 weeks at the moment), it's pretty pitiful, they've previously told me it had to be delivered before the 31st of March.

Not sure how much but I will find out



Online quote was, The provisional value of your vehicle is £11925

No way!!! That's really annoying considering I've enquired & been turned flatly down. In actual fact, I received a 2nd letter today, reminding me that the lease is coming to the end & that I should ring them within 30 days of the lease end date to arrange the return! How much out of interest?

Anyone had the offer to buy either for cash or finance?.

Had a letter today, shame as I have already ordered the replacement.

Good info, thanks! Just the one wheel for me so hopefully it'll slide!

Yea, I did. I threatened that after I paid the £260 that I would go to Citizens Advice, Small Claims, Social media (Facebook etc) forums and complain. They said in essence :
Untreated rust/corrosion is considered abnormal wear, however further to our conversation today I will as a gesture of good will, and to prevent further escalation remove the £260.00 you have been charged.

So all in all a good outcome. I think they just try it on.

Hope you don't get charged!

I might as well be, this is Spain. Have to use WiMax as on a caravan park with no landline availability.

4 mins and 22 seconds? Are you still on dial up?, get with the times! Hahaha

I've noticed mine has some corrosion on the outer rim of one of my wheels, certainly wasn't caused by me. Have you had any joy with them waiving the penalty charge?

Useful piece of information, I put that into my address bar and in 4 mins and 22 seconds I had that information on my screen. The wonders of modern technology.

Has anybody got Manheim, collection services telephone number?

Looks good

Can't wait till my new car comes Wednesday been on order since Sept 29

I only have the one but gives an idea of colour.

My car went back few days ago it will be missed.
They found 2 small dents during inspection which were within limits so i didn't get charged. Overall they were happy.
I have bought a Nissan Qashqai now as I have a 1 yr old and its going well.

no pic of new car :disappointed:

My return and delivery all went smoothly, the inspection was very thorough, two guys spent 15 minutes going over it with a fine tooth comb. Happy to report by the end of it they thanked me for the immaculate condition the car was in and away it went leaving my new one parked on the drive.
This was my first lease experience handing back a car and its been a good one. I guess leasing suits people who look after their cars, if you don't its probably not for you or you have plenty of money to pay them to fix it up.

Now, what do I get in two years time? HaHa

because they can :wink:

mine went upto leicester

was on an offer in september £246 5k miles i picked 9 upfront and i picked the auto was a bit extra

i knew i wasn't going to get anything good for same as Peugeot so was trying to find a deal and it popped up been a long wait though

Did you get a good deal on it? I'm currently looking at the Astra Elite or SRi for the Mrs. Both work out at just under £4100 for a 24mth contract & 5k miles. Will be sad to see the Pug go. I actually enquired through Vauxhall if they'd sell it to me, but was told they don't do that & that the car is taken directly to the closest auction to me once picked up, & that I can ask the inspector on the day where that would be, then basically follow it & buy it back at the auction!!! Surely more cost effective to just sell it directly to me? It also makes me wonder why Pug charge anyone for minor damage if the car's never gonna be in their possession again?

well new car is booked in for delivery 8/3 bmw m140i counting down the days

I got the letter a couple of days ago saying they were going to take the money from my account via DD on the 6th March.

Has PSA actually charged you the £260 ? Or was that just what the inspected said you would have to pay ? I wouldn't personally do anything until they tried to invoice me and then contest the claim. Certainly wouldn't pay first.

​From the sound of it the collection guy has messed up. He is suppose to check for damage and distinguish between user damage and manufacture damage/fault.
Peugeot once they have a human that actual reads the report rather than a computer/admin. They won't charge.

Don't understand that if it's a warranty issue why they can't get it fixed under warranty

All Peugeot at the end of the day

Yes the sooner the better. You could try citizens advice but sometimes you have to wait for an appointment.

No paint marks or alloy marks

They advised me to pay and then if the review is successful they will refund me the money.
Should I take it up with trading standards now?

Did you have any marks on your wheels? I live up in north Scotland, so we have more wet/snow and salt up here.

Never pay first, take it up with trading standards.

Well mine has just gone no defects very good collection experience

BTW I got a Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8 TSI 192PS 3dr to replace the PUG (based on price). I think it's a nicer drive than the Pug but not so many toys in it.

My Pug got picked up nearly two weeks ago. Inspector marked down all four wheels as having corrosion. They have charged me £260 in total.
Car was looked after so well.

Inspector said that the wheels are particularly bad for corrosion.
He had to mark them down on the form, but he said they are not any form of damage caused by the customer. He has seen the same issue on these models.
Peugeot do not use the same wheels anymore due to the issue.

He said that customers were usually never made aware that they should get wheels repaired under warranty. We certainly never were told.

Car got serviced 6 months ago at the main dealer, and they did not say anything.

I have opened up a review case with them and will be pressing hard to get the charges waived. However I am advised to pay them first.
We will have to wait and see.

Same as me, I have mine comming on the 12th April :smiley:

Same again but in metalic red, I had a look about for other but to be honest I like the car and it suit me and my wifes needs very well.

what have you gone for

Mine is being collected on the 2nd March and fingers crossed the new one is being delivered on the same day!

have you booked collection yet tou do need to be there to sign paperwork and sign for damage if any mine goes tomorrow

Collection, my new car is due 31st of March.

are you taking about the collection and inspection ?

What was your guys turn around on getting the car collected? My understanding is it's not done over the phone, is done with paperwork?

good price

Mine went on the 10th. No damage at all.
Just signed all the dealer paperwork for my next lease today. Hopefully delivery will be 5th March.
Scirocco R for 237pm 3+23.
Can't wait. :smile:

My Pug is gone

PistonHeads Lease discussion thread

No mate, used it as a second vehicle, had a look around but cant find anything that comes anywhere close to this deal

Did it get replaced?

Mine went back last Friday :disappointed:
Nothing extra to pay
Will certainly miss it

sad times mine goes next friday

Just had mine collected :disappointed: Sad day.

I had quite a bad scuff on one of my alloy wheels, which the inspector picked up on, however, they haven't charged me anything according to the report. I guess I'll be charged after its gone through a more detailed inspection at the depot? I've read several people have been charged £65, which isn't too bad.

i have 1 should be wear and tear

If your company leases cars to their employees see if your fleet manager can get hold of the BVRLA guidelines for you. It'll detail what can be considered as wear and tear etc... Exampe from GE Capital.

Hi all

Anyone been charged for stone chips to bonnet or a chip in the windscreen?

I know it says chips in windscreen are chargeable in the paperwork.

when is the last payment or is it going early

Am i the only one that finds PSA finance difficult to work with? Just rang for a quote for my car to be collected on the 24th of March... they gave me an early settlement as of today, and not for March 24th? Or am i just doing this wrong?

thanks all sorted did get a bit worried as he said can collect from the 8th i thought me was talking about march but it was feb.8th was the soonest

lease ends 26th so collection is Friday the 24th time has gone so quick

I 'think' it is 0345 3133809 Option 1 - written on a post-it note on my desk with no name!

has anyone got the number for manheim collection left the bit of paper at home

Going to call tomorrow to get it booked in hopefully for the 28th of Feb

Well I wasn't present, but gf was. They go over with a fine tooth comb and 'suggest' fees for noted damages. You must be there or anything can be said really.

I waited two months for collection, agreed a £500 early end fee, but have had £441 taken in rental since I first got that. According to Pug they will still charge the £500 (plus damages which is 0 in my case) then refund the £441.... Got the letter yesterday saying no fee, but no real mention of monies to pay other than I'll get a debtors notice soon and not to be worried about it... Sigh

I've contacted peugeot several times over a three weeks period stating that I wanted to return car early as car is not been used and parked off the road , was informed a letter would be sent out, needless to say im still waiting.... Frustratingy I have now been charged my final payment ! Manheim are due to collect next week, I was initially informed that I would get a quote at time of inspection for any damage to agree a fee, now I've been told I don't need to be there for the inspection and i will have no initial quote is that correct?

Fees waived, although I should think so tbh!

Thanks for the replies, will be interesting to see how much I get quoted!

No, just said Peugeot will be in touch via email or post.

Do they expect payment when they pick it up, or are they advised costs?

Yeah sure, fingers crossed eh!

VS and NVS were the brokers, surely it was Mannheim that came and inspected the car ? I would wait and let pug get in touch, some peeps on here have had damage charges waived.

Hmm, not sure with alloys, but I'm with VS not the normal NVS most people here are with.

dont marks have to be over a maximum size ?

Very good to know! My car was just picked up after a 2 month £75 insurance wait. They initially refused to take it as my private plate was removed as per peugeot instructions but they hadn't been informed, took an hour to agree... Then they found the smallest of scuffs on one alloy, only damage, but said I'll have to pay £65, even though car has 5k less miles than I was allowed... Not overly happy at the moment!

The report said on £65 on mine. But then Peugeot sent me a final bill and waived the £65 charge so will maybe do the same for you.

Hi guys, my car is due for collection in next week or so , will be sad see it go back! , just covered over the 15k mileage! I have one alloy that has been kerbed , thinking of swapping it over for the full size spare, I'm guessing the inspection company check that , are the prices they quote for damage reasonable? As also have a very slight 4 inch mark on bumper? Thanks in advance

Maybe like a yob grandad

Mine hasn't been standard since last march. Its making 230bhp and yeah I tend to put my foot down a lot haha

I dunno.....I don't think of myself as a quick driver but mine went back with 11.5k and only 3mm on the fronts. Either you drive like a grandad Danny or you're having all your fun in your other hot hatch?

Blimey you must have been hooning it everywhere, I'm at 14k now and still have another 5k worth of life at a guess.

Mine is due back in May so have a few months left. Had to replace both front Tyres at 10,000 miles when i took it for its service. Used the spare as one of them.

This is the problem. I only did 3k in the Pug (London, sigh), but now have a Fiesta ST3 with all extras, Mountune performance kit to improve upon the Pugs power, and go faster stripes to boot! Costing a lot more, 2k deposit and £267 a month from the £1k/£147, but is actually a better/faster/nicer looking car (albeit with a less swanky system inside) and goes like absolute stink!

I feel you though, I pained over reviews/cars/deals non stop for a while to find something as an acceptable upgrade, I will never downgrade if I can help it!

Sorry, forgot to say thanks for your advice! I'm going to test drive one and decide from there - although I have spoiled myself with the GTI :disappointed:

I'm gonna be at 14.5k by the time I give it back, so got my use out of it :smiley: Really gonna miss this car.

Yeah... when I had the service they were pretty confused until I said it was a lease.

Wow...Makes me feel better about only having done 11.5k of the 15k allowance over the 18 months!

The 1.2 engine in the fiesta is a old non turbo lump, it will feel absolutely breathless compared to your GTI and don't be a substantial amount better on fuel and on a long run the Pug will no doubt match its fuel economy ! if you want cheap wheels and fancy a fiesta get one of the ecoboost engines which are turbo'd. if you are set on the 1.2 fiesta, go on a long test drive in a 1.2 fiesta first and you'll see what i'm on about especially at higher speeds/ hilly areas.

Mines going back mid-Feb. My car use has plummeted since having this so it's got just under 3000 miles on the clock. Wish I got to use it more as it's a lovely drive.

I'm looking for advice on the following though please.

I've been looking at going for a simple car and found what looks to be an okay deal on a Ford Fiesta 1.2 Zetec Colour edition. I got quoted £144 per month for 48 months, 8000 miles per year, road tax, 3 services, and MOT included with a £144 initial rental. 144+6912(144x48) = £7056 over the four years.

On the road price seems to be about £14,620 with the spec I get. Had a look and found similar 4 year old Fiesta's with 32000 on the clock seem to go for about £6000, so depreciation seems right. I mean including the tax and servicing this seems OK? I'm happy to have no thrills as I've moving out/house end of Jan and my insurance on the GTI nearly doubles :confused:.

Deal long gone I'm afraid. Broker got given about 15 stock cars and once it got put on the PistonHeads lease thread they went in less than a day.

Solid White, Pan Roof, 8k 3+23 @ £295 plus £234 admin all inc VAT. £7900 over the term. Pretty happy with that for a £40k list car.

Would have been £35/mth cheaper if I'd got in early enough to get one without a Pan Roof. But I'll cope with it somehow :smiley:

How much for the e class gazebo ? I'd rather stick with petrol cars

what sort of deal did you get on that if you don't mind me asking.

My replacement has to be auto, ideally petrol and something a little bit tasteful so the E200 would be an option.

Had replacement a couple of weeks: Merc E200 AMG Line Coupe. Got a good deal because it is an unpopular small petrol engine in a model that is being replaced in the summer. But suits me - German, auto, Android Auto, assorted bells and whistles as part of base spec. Love it so far.

Just received these quotes from NVS
Vehicle: Peugeot 208 GTi Prestige THP 208HP 3 Door
Extras/Options:In Metallic Colour
Profile:14 Month Contract (1+13) or 24 Month Contract (1+23)
Miles per annum :10000
Initial Rental: £244.34 Inc. VAT
Monthly Rental: £244.34 Inc. VAT per month
Admin fee: £239.99 Inc. Vat
Road tax Inc.: Yes throughout contract period
Delivery/Notes:To coincide with the return date of your current lease vehicle / 9.5p per excess mile
Based on Non Maintained Personal Contract Hire

After my car was collected there was £65 charge for a scuffed wheel in the report. But Peugeot sent me a letter with the damage and excess mileage charges and the they waived the £65 wheel charge so just had to pay the mileage. So might be worth leaving it.

Mine is going back on the 12th Feb. I've already started getting it back in order. Went to a few places today regarding scuffed wheels. The first place wanted £75 a wheel 'Because they're diamond cut' plus VAT and would take 5-7 days. Ignore this nonsense. They will use the same mobile guys that go around to all the other dealers. They can do it in a couple of hours. I'm going to pay £35 a wheel with them. And this includes 'diamond cut finish' or whatever it is!

Look where the spare wheel is as it may be in there

i have the book in mine its blue i think and got it stamped might want to get the invoice sent to you just in case

You got a invoice ? If not ring the dealer and ask can they forward you one, hopefully that will be good enough :smiley:

Very surprised they didn't include the service book within booklet / wallet...
Best bet would be to contact the dealer and ask for proof of service
Take it you kept the receipt?

Did anyone get the book which you get your services stamped into? I had a service in October but wasn't able to get a stamp, because I haven't got the book. How will the lease company know that I've had a main dealer service done? confused!

Had my new car since November, still waiting on collection next week for Pug. Very annoying £75 more on insurance... My Pug is in pristine condition, 3k on the clock, so assuming they'll be quite pleased with me and give me my 2 months charged fees back whilst I've waited....

have you got a new one on the way ?

And she's gone....just picked up by Mannheim. Just £65 for a badly scuffed alloy seems more than fair. Good car overall, at least when they finally fixed the irritating rebooting head unit. And ridiculous value for what we paid.

​Mine goes back same day. I rang last week. Guy told me to ring back in the afternoon of 12th. Said collection on that date shouldnt be a problem.

​

Thanks mine is due to end 28th Feb so will wait
Just don't want them to turn around and say can't collect untill after the 28th might be busy as new reg is the next day

​7000

My contract ends on the 10th of Feb, so called today and they said it was to early to arrange collection...
Said they'd not received the paperwork yet from Peugeot and to call back Friday

Mileage?

Yeah not bad pal. I'll be paying £500 + 24 x193 for mine come April.

3 services + gap insurance probably amount to £500

Just got this deal for a 208 prestige from arnold clarke. £928 deposit and 48 months @ £210. This includes 4 year warranty, 3 services + first mot. Plus Gap insurance. Think I did alright?

yep got the email good deal

Has any one seen the scirocco r deal atm.
3+23 at 225pm 5000 on nvs and vehicle savers.

Well I returned my letters etc and two weeks later nothing so called around the houses, earliest they could do was 5 weeks later. It will cost me plenty now grrr. I'd ring asap and get it sorted mate.

i have had my letter about collection it asks to call up when your car is due for collection within 4 weeks is that going to be enough time or is it worth calling mid jan dont want to end up with insuring 2 cars

Actually 2 months, but apparently will refund me....

did they charge you another month because they cant collect until january

Mum Van Rentals.com. LOL. But good for her.

My mum has offered to lend me hers. But good idea. Thank

Go on line for car rental companies and you can get some good rental deals for the time you are carless. Sign up for regular updates to get the best prices. Just an idea.

Well I have just ordered my next car. Went to local Ford dealer to see if would match a quote. And they did. I'm getting Ford Kuga 1.5T st-line, 6000 miles per annum. 3+23 £235.14 pm. No bad for a £26000 car. Only problem is they are not building the St-line till January. Mid to late March delivery. My Pug goes back 10th February.

I'm not very happy, filled in document, taken them 2 weeks and no response, they've then taken another months rent out so I chase. They told me I'm to call and arrange a collection. Do that and get told nothing free until 16th Jan. Had to pay 60 quid to insure the car sat on my drive and as they are taking so long I'll have to get another week on top which is 25 more... Grrr

Well mine was collected on Tuesday. The guy took about 20mins to check it over. Just a scuffed alloy to pay £65. (Was well scuffed).

Very nice, enjoy!

Well, the new ST3 with all extras has arrived! Here's the before and after

Swapped my insurance to my new car. And then put the 208 on temporary cover with the same insurer until it's collected next week. Cost me an extra £23 so not to much of a hit.

Suspect this might happen to me too. How are you managing this from an insurance/SORN point of view?

I started the process of returning it at the end of October but I was returning it early.

not sure when to call them need it collecting 1st of march as wont have room for 2 cars in drive

They give you the earliest date they can collect or you can request a date after that. The earliest date they gave me was 3 weeks away from when they rang me. And my new car arrived Monday so stuck with 2 cars at the moment.

is that a date you requested or do they tell you when they can collect ?

Mine is being picked up on the 12th.

anyone had car collected yet did it all go ok

That's pretty good, thanks. I opted for the two year renewal with delivery on the 31st of March. Mine was due to expire on the 5th of May so given your experience i'm not as fearing of the charges now.

I have had a quote for £520 to end 4 months early, which is £72 less than the full rental.

Agreed, and this is obviously more psychologically troubling when it is 2 of the same car! My brain talks itself into losing money so I can get the new car :smiley:

Hmmm, i'm just thinking if i have to give the car back early then i'm opening myself up to 2 months of payments + another 3 month initial rental.

For me? To be honest I haven't asked because I'm assuming I will have to pay til the end. But that's not a big deal as it's only early Feb and I won't get the new car until mid/late Dec

What's the hit been like on the early cancellation, if you don't mind me asking? Have you had to pay the remaining months off?

I'm in a little dilemma. I'm happy to renew for a couple of years but my lease is only up in May, whereas the lease company would like to deliver by end of March. They said this: "I’ve just spoken to Peugeot Finance who’ve confirmed that there’s changes coming in 2017. The Loyalty programme will end, they’ve advised that all orders must be in place by 31st December and delivered and registered by 31st March 2017. Any orders outside of this timeframe will not be eligible for the loyalty support.

In addition as there is a price increase effective 1st December, all orders must be with the dealer by no later than 3pm today to ensure price protection.

I’ve asked if Peugeot will offer customers early termination free of charge, however I’ve been advised that as there will be restructures in Peugeot and Citroen Finance they cannot confirm this at this stage."

So i'm wondering what the hit might be if i return the car early.

Broker got an allocation of 15 or so stock cars. Base spec ones went first so I had to pay £35/mth extra for a panoramic roof. But the Pug has got me used to having one so OK with that :smiley:

Solid White, Pan Roof, 8k 3+23 @ £295 plus £234 admin all inc VAT. £7900 over the term. Pretty happy with that for a £40k list car.

Only had the reboot a handful of times just as a fix appeared so it went straight in and was sorted thankfully. Not had a single issue with mine, although it has only done 3.2k miles! Still got the nobbly bits on the wheels lol

*merc. Blooming auto correct.

​What deal did you get on the merchandise?

I seem to have accidentally leased an E Class coupe that's in stock so my little Pug will likely be gone before the month is out. I'm sure on one level I will miss it, for those odd occasions of good conditions and an empty twisty road. But for the 99% of my driving stuck in traffic or on motorways I suspect I will be happier in the Merc :smiley:

On the whole it's been a good car, albeit with the rather massive exception of the endless rebooting ICE unit that took them forever to fix. And definitely good value for what we paid. But I'm glad it was a lease rather than a long term purchase - not convinced of the build quality.

Thats a good deal :smiley:

I'm slightly miffed the Fiesta I got has just had the new range announcement, totally upgrading the slightly iffy interior, but the one good thing is there's no indication of the ST hot hatches, standard models June so assuming maybe 2018? At least I have the best car for a year beforehand!

I've ordered a Prestige yesterday in metallic red through the Evans Halshaw Peugeot Dealer in Doncaster.
I'll be paying £156.96 initial payment plus £218.99 for 23 months with no admin fee.This includes the £500 discount from Peugeot. The mileage limit is 6000 miles pa with an excess of 7p per mile inc vat.
I couldn't do the 1+22 months to avoid the second service as it is a web deal of some sort that won't let them choose 1+22.
I was told after we had done the deal that it's a good job I came in yesterday as there is a price rise 1st Dec of £400 making it even less appealing.
The new car gets delivered the same day the other one gets picked up in February.

Brexit mate, Brexit.

I was meaning to email NVS over the next few days see what a renewal deal would look like. There was a note on the their site mentioning existing Peugeot customers could contact for a better deal than was being advertised.

My first impressions are that this offer doesn't exactly seem amazing.... and I'm not on the original £161 a month offer, I'm on the £181 ish a month offer. The new offer seems well Above inflation inc. 20% more for the admin fee, and the mileage has increased from 7.2p per mile to 9.5p

I got the same email at 12.15 with the following addition -
To secure this rate orders need to be placed by 12pm 30th November as Peugeot have a price increase effective from 1st December 2016.

Hmmm, less than 24hrs to decide & need to know how much difference it would be for only 5k mileage per year.

I've had this through today:

Peugeot 208 GTi Prestige THP 208HP 3 Door
Extras/Options: In Metallic Colour
Profile: 2 year contract (3+23)
Miles per annum : 10000
Initial Rental: £596.91 Inc. VAT
Monthly Rental: £198.97 Inc. VAT per month
Admin fee: £239.99 Inc. Vat
Road tax Inc.: Yes throughout contract period
Delivery/Notes: To coincide with the return date of your current lease vehicle / 9.5p per excess mile

This! When I came to find a car with similar tech I had to fill them with extra's just to compete, and in some instances like the Golf GTI that was £3500 of extras bumping the monthlies up to about £400! I went for the Fiesta ST3 Mountune in the end to beat the performance, beat the smiles, and it got a few upgrades such as keyless, oh and I added a rear parking camera; have to upgrade when getting a new car eh! The downside is there is no touchscreen and the paltry offering Ford have will take a bit of getting used to. That being said though, the Pugs sat nav was rubbish, I always used TomTom on my phone anyway....

The renewal price you got was still a good price, the pug 208 GTI is a brilliant all around hot hatch crapped full of tech and options you often have to pay for with other brands. Even though the interior on the 208 is ace, I'm hoping for the 209 they will copy the new 3008 interior and I think I'll have to get another on lease :smiley: enjoy your new cars guys!

Very true, I certainly cannot afford to buy one new but this allows me to get my hands on one.

I was also told if you drive it, fly it, or sail it, lease it. I know lots of people don't agree but it works for me. If I could only find a good lease deal for a yacht I would be set, ha.

Well, tbh thats what the leasing is all about right, don't know/care for the hassle of second hand cars get a new one easily :smiley:

I've only ever had second hand, and decided it was time to move from older performance cars with less tech to nice new hot hatches that are above my price range but dirt cheap at 200 a month or so :smiley:

Also, you're supposed to rent what depreciates and buy what appreciates right? Just bought me a house and renting a car, finally the right way around!

Unfortunately I don't know enough about cars to really go down the second hand route. Anything goes wrong and I am totally at the mercy of the mechanic! Great if you can though and the RS200 sounds like fun. I played the safe card with the 208 renewal, still quite happy with the price considering the 23+1 deal but I know I could probably have gone cheaper.

Well sounds great anyway, sadly you can't have everything. Apart from in the st3 I'm getting :wink:

Definitely a more extreme car than the pug, the type of car to bring out the inner boy racer in you and begs to be pooned around ! The pug does make the better day to day and relaxing car though, going to miss it massively especially on my long regular trips down to cornwall, oh and the MPG of the pug. The RS200 will do early 30's best case senerio ! oh and road tax is £280 !!!

Ouch!! Hope car is good after all that?

Yeah soooo the second hand hot hatch route is working well for me................. thought I would have to drop £1k into the cheap Clio rs200 I bought and that would include some new boots all around, ended up spending £1300 on steering, suspension and brakes alone abid performance ones of my choosing to replace the broken/knackered original stuff and another £400 on premium boots all around. Brings the total Clio spend to £5800ish, not bad for a car that now has new brembo brakes and performance pads, new H&R lowering springs all around, new tyres plus all the other work the previous owner did.

Just shows that with second hand cars expect the unexpected and have a wodge of cash spare, hopefully no major work will be needed for the next few years and the price i would pay for a decent lease this time around will pay for it within 2 1/2 years. if only there were more hot hatch lease deals for less than £170pm i would stick with the lease route.

Exactly, this was a best case deal for now ending shortly so decided to grab it ☺️

yes otherwise you could be paying more when 208 expires come pics when it comes :wink:

i do wish the 1st of march will hurry up

Actually no, it arrived in Belgium port today, within 3 weeks! Have to pay 520 or a little less to settle early but worth it for the saving I think

when is it getting delivered 1st march ?

Update, managed to get the only Ford Fiesta ST 3 with all extras in my colour that can arrive in the UK before the 0% finishes in 24th, and got a smashing deal, 2k deposit, 267pcm. Done!

I had the letter and was set to do some research this evening as the letter is worded for someone who works in the courts, I believe. So thanks for posting this, I really appreciate it.

​No I haven't had a letter? Mine goes back beginning of February. What are the implications should I write carefully off now?

Have any of you had the letter about Gap Insurance 123 going into liquidation? I had mine yesterday and was a little concerned. Thankfully the following has just been been posted on pistonheads.

Latest, I've been called by another Ford dealer who said he can 'substantially beat the other Ford dealers quote' BUT he will only tell me the price once I visit his showroom with my documents ready for the finance application.... This is 'to prevent me using the figure whilst calling other dealers'.

Oldest trick in the book I'm sure, but still tempted eh...

No, likely today/tomorrow really. I'm leaning more the side of the pcp route, but could easily go the cheaper route and just save the extra 600 pre, 50pcm post instead with no car to sell!

doesnt help when you dont have long to decide :wink:

Sure thing, by the way though I can just hand the car back on the pcp as well and move on if I wish, but that would make the least sense as it'd cost more for giving back. Hmmm, decisions decisions!

i would just so you can hand the car back and get another it all comes doen to do you want to own the car at the end of the 3 years if yes then there is your answer

Oh is it? Had no idea, not intentional!

That's a bit challenging isn't it? perhaps a more polite response would be, can you give me your reasons.

Right, and how come?

i would go option 1 and keep the go kart until lease ends :smiley:

Ok, would appreciate some advice please :smiley:

First, I'm tending towards Fiesta ST-3 with all extras, prefer interior of Focus but enjoyed Fiesta plus much cheaper, agree?

Second, I've got two offers:

Contract Hire, can collect from 2 weeks away to 5 months (when current contract is up) in my spec
£1450 deposit, £242 pcm including Mountune power upgrade, free delivery, no admin fee.

2nd option, have to sign within next couple days to get 0% pcp direct with Ford. £2k deposit, £289 pcm (so far best quote) with Mountune, will get in ~2 weeks but then have to pay £520 to end 208 contract early.

Pro's of contract hire, can wash hands at month 36. £600 lesser deposit and £40 less pcm.
Cons - tied in for 36 months regardless and must give back at end

Pros of pcp - can terminate (for a likely fee) after 1.5yrs if needs be. Been told 7.5k end of term payment, but looking at 3yr old ST2's now with similar mileage and less specs than mine would be, they go for ~£14k so potentially could sell at end and get £7k cashback. Possibly can trade with a special 'Ford owners' exchange deal.
Cons - Hassle of selling/owning, need to pay the £520 to end 208 early, so around £2k more spent on gamble of the equity at the end.

What would your votes be?

0-62mph in 6.7 seconds (1.8 TSI 192PS)
Interesting! I've gone to the Seat website though and needed to add on £1700 of extras to make it a nicer car, the cupra black edition needs nearly £700 for a spoiler and sideskirts! Surely that should be standard on this sort of vehicle?...

Just going to throw this in the mix. :smiley:

Seat Ibiza Sport Coupe 1.8 TSI Cupra Black Edition

£189 per month on a 3+23.
£174 per month on a 3+35.
8000 miles per annum.
£180 admin fee.

Can reduce the mileage and also save on price as well. Also includes a choice of metallic paint. Jan/Feb delivery.

https://www.nationwidevehiclecontracts.co.uk/Seat_Ibiza_Sport_Coupe-1-8-tsi-cupra-black-71737.htm

If anyone's genuinely interested then I think I can get the monthlies a little cheaper via a dealer, you'd also save on the £180 admin fee - PM me if that's the case.

Another good quote that may interest some from nvs:

Vehicle:
FORD FIESTA 1.6T 182 EcoBoost ST-3 3dr Manual

Extras/Options:

Premium paint – Spirit Blue
ST Style Pack
Rear View Camera
Rear parking sensors

Profile:
3 year contract
(Initial as below 6+35)

Miles per annum :
5000

Initial Rental:
£1307.45 Inc. VAT

Monthly Rental:
£217.91 Inc. VAT per month

Admin fee:
£239.99 Inc. VAT

Road tax Inc.:
Yes throughout contract period

Delivery/Notes:
Factory order TBC / 8.38p Inc.VAT per excess mile

good price

This just in:

Volkswagen Polo Hatchback
1.8 TSI GTI 5dr
£161.33 inc VAT
Initial Rental: £1451.97 | 23 Months @ £161.33 | 8,000 miles per annum
Contract Hire | Admin Fee: £300
https://www.vehiclesavers.com/car-leasing/volkswagen/polo-hatchback/1.8-tsi-gti-5dr.html

Well, putting it that way makes it sound like a massive waste of money lol! The rs would be super, but I think it may be too much money in the long run, including insurance etc. I'll pop the numbers down and see. Worth noting, rs isn't in the 0% deal.

Edit - £500pcm as its 5.9% apr. Ouchy!

I don't know all your circumstances, but from what you've said:

- you average about 3k miles pa in a hot hatch, so about 9k miles over 3 years.
- you're happy to spend £358 per month on a Focus ST-3 with a few extras over 3 years (you'll also pay a £2k deposit that you'll get back).

If the above's correct, then I'd be more inclined to go for the Focus RS (especially if you're a cash buyer, although the sums would still work ok for a PCP deal). Lead times are long, but historically the RS will hold its value very well and would work out cheaper.

If you look at the mk2 RS on Auto Trader, 7 year old examples are being sold for £21k+ (with less than 50k miles on the clock). So a mk3 RS with 9k miles on the clock should easily be worth £27k+ in 3 years time.

Your choice of course, just putting my thoughts out there. :smiley:

Well the deal is just the one on the ford website actually, 0% until Nov 24th.

The focus st3 with basically everything extra works out at 358 per month after 2k deposit for 3yrs. I asked if there was any movement in that figure and he said if you are wanting to buy straight away I can have a chat with my manager to see if that figure can be lowered.

He said it was cash refund as there's nothing to stop me selling privately and getting that extra anyway, but it could also be used towards another new one in 3yrs too.

So what would be the numbers in terms of your deal for the Ford? £2k deposit followed by 23 monthlies of how many £s?

When you say Ford give you a refund, are you sure that's a cash refund or is the equity used as a deposit for another car with Ford?

Anyone had experience of cancelling early from vehiclesavers.com ? I've got 5 months left, however seriously considering a Focus ST-3 direct from Ford, they have a 0% finance offer at the moment ending in 11 days. If I were to get that, delivery in about 2 months, I'd have 3 left which I assume I pay upfront with no further penalties to cancel? 208 is in pristine condition with only 3.2k on the clock....

The interesting thing with the Ford deals are that if you are a low mileage user and give the car back lower than the estimate, they actually give you a refund which according to the sales rep would equate to the 2k deposit I'd put down in the first place. That begins to make this a very tempting deal, better than all the hire deals out there we are looking at.

Only signed and sent the letter back yesterday so hasn't been Collected yet. Will post updates on here.

dis you have any isses with any damage or minor marks or were they ok

Yes it is I've just done this I had two months left. Got a polo gti coming end of the month stock car so good price. They send you a letter with how much left to pay sign and return it. Then they arrange collection. Then bill you for any damage/excess mileage. Pay this if any to pay then they take what you had left to pay via direct debit. In my case 2 months payments.

Does anybody know if it's possible to hand the car back early, or to pay the remaining amount off now but keep the car until it goes back?

I'm trying to move and would like to clear this debt so I can get a better mortgage deal

Well I have given in and taken their offer, I cannot be without a car and am the type of person that likes to have things sorted for piece of mind. I had a look at other deals but simple could not find anything to match for a similar price.

I went with the 1+23 so its £215.99 deposit and £215.99 per month on a 24 month deal. The car is scheduled to be delivered on the day my current one goes back and will be in metallic rioja red.

It may be that a better deal comes up between now and then but I was keen to get in the queue given the delays with this one so I guess I will have to take it on the chin if there is. That being said happy with the deal I am getting and love the car so overall feel pretty good about it.

Ah, you have to go to A4 first to filter it... But, automatic? Nah! Thanks though mate, I'll branch out the search to include S1-4 :wink:

https://www.centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/vehicle/choose_your_lease/76721/audi/a4/s4_quattro_4dr_tip_tronic.html

Not sure what that mileage was on the Fiesta price you quoted, but it works out just under £10k. The S4 works out at £10k based on 8k pa - you could probably get it a little cheaper if you phone a few dealers.

I cant find it on sites/parkers compare, where have you spotted a good deal please?

I'd say the S4 has the same if not more kit as standard. Plus the added bonus of a better quality interior and, perhaps more importantly, 350bhp. :smile:

But probably not with the extras needed to bring it to the same sort of tech spec (I'm fussy!)

Jan 17 you say? Perhaps I'll calm a little and wait patiently then!

Or rather Peugeot did - they have delivered subsidised marketing for fast cars that will result in future revenue from us for Audi/BMW/etc :smile:

You can lease a 335d xdrive or a S4 for those prices.

Next batch of lease deals will be in Jan 17.

I specced up a couple cars, my swapout is April and I pay £150pcm currently. The Fiesta ST-3 with blue paint and a handful of extras to make it equivalent to our 208, plus the Mountune upgrade to make it faster = £350 deposit and £391pcm :confused:
The BMW M140i with extras to bring it up to tech spec was £1500 deposit and £360pcm :confused: both 24 month rentals.

I'm beginning to think we shot ourselves in the foot a little with getting a high spec high powered low rental period 208 :/ I'll never go back in specs/power as I started with a Nissan 350Z and 'upgraded' to this car as it is...

Also, the arrival times for both of those are March, so it gives me a month to find a better deal. Hope someone spots something soon as those prices are astronomical :'(

Amen to that. Or the sub £5k/2yr Golf GTi again. Or a stupid M140i deal

Think I will take them up on the 215.99 offer, I like the car and trying to find anything close to the original deal we got is impossible it seems. Looking around at other hot hatch deals and I cannot find anything. The thought of putting down over a £1000 deposit does not appeal.

I'm hoping the Golf R will make a comeback.... That or an S3 would be nice.... :wink:

joggghgghhgggggg onnggfnnnn :stuck_out_tongue:

What is an "aye" and when is febuary? Plees chek befour postin.

should be ok then a deal will pop up

Yeah I know, but it's a risk I can take as I can live without a car for a bit if needed (2nd commuter car - I can always get the train)

you might want to keep an aye out as depending how popular it is .
as i ordered mid october a bmw m140i and that isnt getting delivered into the uk until febuary for 1st of march delivery . my 208 ends 28 feb 2017

It's just appeared on the NVS site

Just had email from them too. 1+23 plus £240 admin fee. Also seems metallic is included in that price

Pretty good @£50/month premium over last time Our original price was crazy anyway. To be honest if I had to pull the trigger now I'd probably go with a Polo GTi for a change (plus 5dr & DSG). But more expensive and base spec isn't as good - no climate, no sunroof etc.

Still can't believe another broker screwed up my cheap Golf GTi - that really would have been perfect. Think I will wait and see if any more killer deals between now and March. Or maybe I'll crack and get this. :smiley:

Is that to keep your original car?

Had a renewal offer from NVS and it comes in at 215.99 deposit and 215.99 per month for 24 months.

I am tempted as I really like the car, what do all think to that?

Just had mine serviced at Bristol Street motors, Riverside, Northampton for £115. They did try the online price of £295 but I said I only wanted the level 1 service done. My millage was jut over the 10k which means I'm just on track with the millage quota.
6 months left to go. I had a look at the 308 GT line while I was in Peugeot and it looks nice.

Not only did I not get it done, I did not even know about it!

Nice one :smiley: I wanted to actually do the service myself being an electrical/mech engineer and fixing servicing cars, bikes anything all my life, but i thought the headache they could potentially give me about me doing it myself (even using the genuine oil and filter ) or my second option of using a specialist isn't worth the money saving. on a side note did anyone bother getting the fuel tank valve recall work done ? I tried getting it done at the same time as the service but it had too much fuel in it to do the work.

I was a little lucky with mine, Peugeot in Hull closed, the nearest was an hour away in daytime traffic. I rang and they said to use a local garage that specialises in Peugeots, (PugCity). I even got them no make a note on their system and send me a letter to say that was OK. So the first service with oil and filter change cost me £85.00. Not bad at all.

Mine was booked in for £176. Did it online, you can choose if you want hte filters etc.. changing. Mines only done 5000 miles so didn't bother with that.

Rang 3 dealers, all of them saying tier 2 service for its first service which costs £350+ !!!!!! basically had to tell them that the service book itself says air filter, fuel filter and spark plugs are recommended but not required to be changed at the first service. then got 2 of them ( both robins and day ) offering £180 for tier 1 service ( basic oil and filter change ) but evans helshaw did it me for £130 :smiley: and had awesome customer service to boot.

Ditto, its such a effortless car to go quick in, really refined aswell. Completely different to the RS200 i'm running at the side of it. I prefer the Pug for 99% of the time and don't want to hand it back. Some minor good news is when the brand new 208 ( or 209 ) is released next year hopefully it will get the interior design of the new 3008 which is awesome !

also had basic service cost was £188

For me it was a basic service, I believe they referred to it as a level 1 service at Robin's and Day. When you ring up they give you a ball park price as they just say what the system says - book it up anyway. On the day when you go in, explain you only need a level 1 service and don't need the filters and spark plugs, you'll sign off the work document before they do work anyway, so if you don't reach an agreement you can pull the plug.

Can someone please tell me which service I should be getting done? I know there were lots of comments on here a while ago & some were being charged for a service they didn't need. Who managed to get the cheapest one in the end & where was that? I'm in Langley, near Heathrow.

Snap, 4 months left and really don't want to see it go.

I think most people are at the stage where they'll be looking to hand it back. Mine is awesome and even though I have just over 4 months left on it, I'm already feeling like I'll miss it.

How are people finding the performance of their GTI ?

I've done 2300 miles in mine now so had time to put it through its paces.

I'm very surprised at how fast it accelerates for the amount of power it has. Also fuel isn't too bad however only getting around 50mpg driving steady on the motorway, think the book states around 65mpg extra urban, no chance of that. Quite happy with the handling of the car but not overly impressed with the braking.

I plan on uprating the brakes and will also get the vehicle remapped at some point, will be a wolf in sheeps clothing for sure then!

yep then look for a car whenever a deal for one comes about

Would love a BMW 140i but i can't justify the £300+ payment, my thought process with the RS200 is i will be spending £5k all in and if i sell it on a year or two later ill be getting £4k+. obviously any second had car is a gamble but i'm hoping i've bought a solid one with the work it has had done.

yes i was looking at the golf r but not a fan of the cloth seats

went for the bmw m140i myself

enjoy your rs200

no lease deals are grabbing my attention, the GOLF GTI deal was good for the car but i find golf's boring and it was still working out at around £5.5k to lease it for 2 years. I was doing some window shopping and i've decided to take the plunge and run a older hot hatch for a few years to see if i can cope lol. I picked up a Blue Clio rs200 on a 59plate for £4250 after negotiations. Car isself is tidy enough and the previous owner dropped £2k into it in august - new engine, clutch, recon gearbox, cambelt kit. so it wants for nothing other than rear brakes and boots all around, possibly a new steering rack as there is a slight clunk from the steering and i've heard these are a weak point.

In line skates.:confused:

so what are people getting to replace the 208

Despite getting the proposal in on Monday, somehow I seem to have ended up not getting one. Unimpressed. Wait for the next deal I guess. Although I think the GTi would've been perfect for what I need.

​My 208 goes back 12th February so late January at earliest would have been perfect. Shame I was at work all day. On the upside I did drive a Porsche 911 carrera s back from Preston.

Golf GTi deal with usual CVL/NVS brokers - about £200 all in on 2 yr lease 5K, +£10 for DSG which is what I've gone for (and I think I've got one but no signed paperwork yet).

Appears to have been pulled now but briefly came back and may do again. Only problem is they've upped the excess miles charge from 7.2ppm to 10.8ppm after the first wave of orders which makes it less good if you do anything more than lowish miles

​Did I just miss something?

No joke, I was actually going to add 'by the end of the afternoon' but then I didn't want to be known as the 'mystic meg' of the leasing world. :laughing:

Suspect Karlie is spot on as usual: deal has disappeared from CVL website. Just hope I can get mine through.....

Bikerdanny, I'd ring another local dealer too. Sometimes, they can do quotes over the phone and email them over (takes 2 minutes). At least you can compare prices - some dealers offer varying amounts of contributions so prices can vary. I have a feeling this deal may not be around for a lot longer. I;d ring no more than 3 local dealers, speak to someone from the fleet dept and take it form there.

rang my local dealer to see what they can do, going to qoute me today. whats the price now for excess mileage ? it was 7.2p. I need 10k per year, but obviously want the cheapest way of doing that.

Ah, of course. Should have guessed. Not much in it price wise I guess anyway.

Yes, I rang to ask re December. To be honest if it does show up in December, I'll just get Peugeot to pick up the 208 early. I'm not realistically going to run both of them.

N.B. Only issue you may have now is VW finance have literally just changed the excess miles charges. I got my applciation in before they did but if you do more than 5K then this deal may not be so good anymore

Because CVL deals are not permitted on HUKD.

also interested in the deal, did you ring to ask is december the latest they can deliver ? mine goes back in febuary aswell, its not just the cost of aving 2 car payments but sorting the insurance for that brief period where i own both cars :/ how you sorting the insurance for that few month cross over ?

cheers

Curious why you posted the marginally more expensive NVS one as a deal instead of CVL?

Ha. Should've guessed you would beat me to it. If only by 4 minutes and largely because I'm busy trying to get one :smiley:

So my replacement is hopefully sorted (assuming order goes through), thanks to new Q4 pricing being discussed on Pistonheads. From CVL:

Golf GTi 5Dr DSG - £569.97 upfront and 23 x £189.99 inc VAT
£180 fee
5k
7.2ppm excess
Colour TBC (but I'm not that bothered, metallic would be nice but I wouldn't pay for it.)

Manual also available for a little bit less.Can't push the delivery back beyond December and my Pug goes back in Feb so may have a choice of GTis for a month or so.......:smiley:

Golf GTI for £199 per month all-in - 5k pa. CVL is the lease company.

well the 208 gti will be hopefully replaced with a bmw m140i in march

Thats very interesting, well fingers crossed something comes up. I can go up a bit in terms of monthly payments but anything around the 300 mark would be too much for me for how much use I get. I guess anything around 200 and I would bite.

I asked Peugeot Contract Hire if the 18 months could be extended and they said no.
I rang the number on the Peugeot £750 letter to see what deals they were offering on renewal. They said I had to speak to a dealer which I did and they said Peugeot change their pricing quaterly and October was the next time so to ring back then.
The dealer did say Peugeot did drop a clanger with the pricing so you won't get anything near as good again.
They also said you don't have to have fixed terms like I thought you did, you can have 23 months or 35, whatever you want so you avoid the annual service cost. This makes it dearer per month but cheaper than a service.
They also said the £750 discount on a 308 or £500 on a 208 is usually on all the time so don't bother about the September deadline on the leaflet.

thanks also had the letter was worries then

You're just going to have to trust me on this when I say it was a misprice.

Misprices have happened before (this along with the VW Passat Alltrack are notable examples) and they'll happen again. There's no doubt that good offers are put out by manufacturers sometimes too.

With this deal and the VW Passat, both finance companies put an incorrect guaranteed future value on the car (about £2k more for the 208 and £6k more for the Passat) which both resulted in very low monthly rentals.

All reputable brokers had access to these deals hence they were widely publicised.

You will find that some manufacturers at some time will put out good offers on their cars to get them on the road. These prices are not misprices and they get lots of cars out there and do not lose money on them as the broker only gets a small margin on them compared with what a dealer will get, they will then go to auction and only dealers will be allowed to bid in a closed auction.
As an ex car delivery driver I have collected these cars to take to auction in the past.

Best current equivalent I can find is Polo GTIs for around £200 average over the term but like Karlie says for the Corsa it's also only 5k. Quite tempted anyway but also tempted to step up to M140i or Golf R.....

It was a misprice on Peugeot Financial Services' system, which all brokers have access to. :wink:

It wasn't a misprice all brokers had the deal

I like the idea of leasing so might have to go for the mundane option. I do not want to pay loads more for a car as it really would be a waste. Hopefully some sort of deal comes up before then.

I doubt you'll get a similar car at a similar price again - seeing as it was a misprice. Even with the £750 offer, you're highly unlikely to get a small hot hatch for an equivalent £177 per month.

You can get a Corsa VXR for £180 per month on a 1+35 term at the moment, but it doesn't come with half the kit that you guys got and it's only 5k pa.

You can certainly get lots of mundane cars for a similar price though.

To be quite honest I would be happy to have another one of these cars. Its been a fun little car to drive and really anything more is overkill for me, are there still any deals for these about?

With my final payment letter I also had a booklet with £750 of initial rental to stay with Peugeot, has anyone rang to see what sort of deal they will offer?

Agreed that is the best deal ATM and very decent cars as well ! I saw a Leon 290 deal that averaged out at £230pm for 10k via a broker, but I think that deal has finished. Thats a reasonable price seen as it's through a dealer rather than a broker. Even bog standard diesel golfs are going for £200pm average these days.

Someone's posted this on PH:


I assume that includes metallic paint. You'll be hard pushed to find a better deal IMO. I know there are people on PH who have Golf Rs that are due back next March/April but have still gone for a Cupra deal. They've delayed delivery until Dec and are happy to pay the early termination fee (50% of remaining monthly rentals). So they have to pay £300 for the early termination fee but at the same time, they're avoiding a first service and 2 new tyres.

Not sure what an early cancellation on the 208 would work out at though...

​Price has gone up. It was at vehicle savers.
I may just go sensible and get the tiguan that's 131pm with 2400 upfront. That's 231 pm over the term.

​That's last payment for 1 more month.

Exact same, don't want to pay more than 250 pm max. I'm hoping something decent will come up in the next 3 months, I've got a very open mind so not fussy about brand etc as long as it's decent.

Just had a letter from Peugeot saying date of final rental is 24/1/17. Is this the date the car gets returned or is it 1 month after this?

Do tell......

​Mine goes back at the beginning of February. I have been looking at the Leon cupra, Golf gti/R/Gtd. Averaged out over the term I don't want to pay over 250 pm.
I just found a deal for a GTD for around 230 pm.

Yes, I was thinking about the 290 Cupra Black too. £230 per month averaged out for 5k pa or £250 per month for 10k pa. Unfortunately that deal has now ended and no more orders are being accepted as a new facelift Cupra is imminent.

Would the Cupra have been worth the extra £70 per month? Probably. More power/faster, bigger car, bigger alloys, slightly better/more tech inside the car, better exhaust sound, metallic paint included, dynamic chassis control etc.

Pretty sure a good deal will crop up, just a matter of when and keeping an open mind....

Mine is February as well, if anyone spots a good lucking hot hatch lease deal ping it in here for us others to oggle over

I'm personally see myself leasing again, there isn't a car out there that I want to keep for say around 4/5 years so PCP and buy at the end won't work for me. In regards to all the older hot hatches etc none stand out apart from the RS200, but then I'm going to miss my tech toys and need £7k+ upfront. I'm personally happy with sticking around the 200bhp mark and the supermini size again, anything from the class above would be above my needs and fuel economy would suffer. Saying all that Leon 290 blacks are working out to be the best bang for the buck ATM - around £230pm mark average for 10k.

I'm being a bit previous - mine isn't up til beginning of Feb. But others will be sooner.

When are the majority of these leases ending?

So as lease expiry approaches, what's everyone thinking about replacement? I might just buy a banger as I'm reverting to a train commute - so hard to justify a new lease as the Pug is only a second car. But after a new car that will be tough :smiley:

If I lease again I'm tempted by this: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bmw-m140i-5dr-nav-lease-2085-48-deposit-231-72-month-5-000-miles-vehiclesavers-335bhp-2512370 in 5dr auto form. More money but a lot of car with new BMW M engine and ZF 8 speed auto box which is appealing (we have the Volvo 8 speed equivalent in family car which is brilliant)

Or maybe a Golf R for about the same money. Or keep it cheaper and get a Polo GTi DSG.

What's everyone else thinking?

Had the car serviced yesterday at evans helshaw doncastor, superb service all the way through. I arrived 30mins late and they didn't bat a eye lid, they dropped me and the GF off into the town centre to do some shopping as the car was being serviced ( 2hrs ) and picked us up from the town centre aswell, car got a valet aswell. All this softened the cost a bit :smiley:

Last week I took my Dacia to the local Renault dealer for it's 4 year service, they said it will be about 1 1/2 hours I said I will go and get Breakfast and they said do I want a courtesy car?

Worst of it is, when you say 'can I wait for it?

'No, it'll take 4 hours' :confused:

Rang 3 dealers - Sheffield north, Sheffield south and Doncastor all were after £300+ as it says on there system it needs a Tier 2 service every year, basically had to tell them no it doesn't the Tier 2 items are advised but optional during the first year/mileage I was on. Sheffield north and south still wanted £189 for Tier 1, got Doncastor to offer it for £129 which is much more reasonable abid still a rip off for what is basically a oil and filter change I could do myself for a fraction of the cost :/ Shame I need that stamp in the book.

Plenty of time to enjoy it still then. Good luck :smiley:

I have it until April 2017 but plan on trying to extend if possible unless another great deal comes along.

18.5k is a good price and below RRP of over £20k

When do you return the car ?

I ended up doing mine through PCP at a main dealer , a lot more money than the lease deal posted but I was still happy with the price

I paid 3k down and 196 p/m over 36 with a final payment fee of 8.5k and 10k per annum.

Works out at 18.5k with finance included roughly, a lot of money but a lot of car for the cash, even more so when you consider you would probably pay more for a poverty spec VW golf or something . I plan to own the car after the 3 years

There are some great country roads where I live that I have some fun on. I will miss it when it goes back.

I've driven 60 miles so far and couldn't resist putting my boot down a couple of times

Surprised at how quick the car is actually , so nice to drive too, loving it

​Just make sure they put correct oil in 0w30 is the right oil. Some dealers both Peugeot and non Peugeot are using 5w30. I'm at the garage I used atm trying to sort it out as they used the wrong oil.

Service quotes:
Telford £350
Stafford £250
Shrewsbury £150

Surprisingly I've gone with Shrewsbury

No need on new cars as new engines and oils mean they are less likely to have an issue.

For peace of mind you could take it easy for the first 1000 miles.

Pick my car up Monday :smiley:

On topic of service and maintenance, does Peugeot recommend sometype of break in period for new engines ? Like keeping RPM's down for x amount of miles etc

Bletchley, MK quoted me around £214 they can also price match.
I have had my car fixed there before they are good but can get busy.

any dealer recommendations for somewhere near Bedford or Milton Keynes....

They are wrong, the plugs need changing at 20000 miles.All it needs is an oil and filter change, safety and environmental check plus topping up of fluids. I've spoken to Peugeot Customer Services on this and they have confirmed this. I had mine serviced yesterday at £135 at my local dealer and noticed they had put the wrong oil in (5w30 instead of 0W30) so it had to go back today to have it changed again!

​I rang up PCH. And they told me that as long as they used approved Peugeot parts I could take it anywhere.
The closet main dealer to me was willing to take filters off but said plugs had to be changed even though I have only done 4000 miles. Still wanted 270. Plugs are 96. Anyway paid 130 at a local VW garage who had 3 Peugeot trained mechanics. 130 with a wash and vac.

Well I think it is obvious you take it to a main dealer and get it serviced. Does it also tell you what the penalty is for not going to a main dealer?

Also, when I called my Peugeot main dealer, they said that according to the GTI servicing schedule, the plugs need to be changed every year so it is a full service at £300!

On the Peugeot Contract Hire website, it says "Ensure that your routine servicing and maintenance is supplied and carried out by a Peugeot Dealer".

Did all of you use a main dealer? I'm wondering what to do...

http://www.peugeot-contract-hire.co.uk/driver-area/index.php/looking-after-your-peugeot

Mine was £120. And they washed it. Pretty happy with that.....

Mines going in for a service on Monday
£130.00 no plugs / pollen filter
Apparently the oil alone costs ~ £60.00...

Service done today and diagnostics revealed some errors so they did some software updates which they think are related to the engine cut out. They also washed the car.
Basically i was driving as normal and approaching a roundabout then the engine suddenly cut out. I thought it might have stalled. Everything went off all the dial lights icons, screen etc. I had to restart the engine (turn the key).
The next day the same thing happened approaching a roundabout and it cut out again. The dials/dash went red text appeared in red caps saying RESTART MANUALLY. This showed me something was wrong so I am hoping this update will fix the issue.

When you say cut out do you mean something wrong with the auto start/ stop ? And it failed to restart ? That economy is looking rather low aswell unless you have been punning it everywhere extra urban. Keep us all updated :smiley:

I got my service booked tomorrow £194 in Cardiff as i am here for a few weeks. They are also looking into why my engine cut out twice in 2 days last week.
Peugeot Bletchley quoted me £212.

I switched to the settings display and I noticed my economy is about 25 mpg in town not as good as i thought.

I'll be asking pug around October time can I keep it and if not I'll be looking to lease another one and gonna have to time it very well so I'm not carless, I've got a motorbike to commute on in worse case but that's my play thing.

That's my plan too!

The only thing that worry's me is the timing as if they say no I will need to get another one sorted ASAP.

I need my car to get to work.

I heard a lot of professional reviews complaining about the steering wheel blocking the speedo by it doesn't effect me ether ! I actually really li the dials, the location of them and the little steering wheel, light years ahead of my mates fiesta st set up.

If you haven't seen the facelift version in person your in for a treat, it looks loads more manly and meaner than the old version, but still has a very bling you but in a classy way grill :smiley: I like the black bits of trim on the interior that replace the red/black stuff in the older version.

I'll be ringing pug up and asking can I extend the lease on mine, if they won't let me I'll see what deal I can find on another 208 GTI or the 308GTI :smiley:

Nice to hear you're enjoying it and thanks for the reply, I had the 207 gti before and was a cracking car, no doubt the 208 will be much better and refined.

Would have been nice to test drive the facelift model with the thp 208, the one a drove was a 13 reg thp 200 and to be honest it picked up nice with 2 passengers.

I read alot of reviews saying about the wheel blocking the speedo but me and my girlfriend both drove the car and didn't find a problem, even with nearly 1foot size difference between us lol. Really do like the panoramic roof too

Loving my car still, just a really really nice car to use day to day. It's it a good comfortable and sporty blend, is certainly quick enough but the engine pulls from virtually no revs so it's dead relaxing to drive when your hair isn't on fire. Plenty of compliments on the look and interior of the car, I get a good 33mpg when I drive super urban and 48mpg when I do my long distance 70-80mph runs so it's Eco enough :smiley:

How's everyone enjoying their GTI's?

Planned leasing one myself but ended up going through a main dealer on PCP as I plan on buying it eventually and they offered a good price before the 66reg cars come out next month. Had a look around the prestige and test drove the regular GTI, impressive car.

Ordered the prestige model in bianca white, looking forward to getting my mitts on it now!

I rang my local Peugeot dealer and after I told them it had only done 5500 miles, quoted me £368 for the first service!!
This included oil & filter, air filter, pollen filter, spark plugs.... I spoke to Peugeot Head Office who after pinning them down for an answer basically said it needs an oil and filter change, fluids topping up and a safety check at 5500 miles.
Brake fluid needs changing every two years
Air filter every 40000 miles or 4 years
Spark Plugs every 20,000 miles or 4 years
Pollen Filter every 20000 miles or 2 years
First draining of the gearbox 20,000 miles
These are all listed on the Servicing sheet issued by the delivery firm (found mine in the handbook folder afterwards) and are for normal servicing.
Just shows some dealers will rip you off knowing full well you don't need spark plugs etc.
They said you can have the service done by a non dealer but if you do it sounds like they will try and say it is not valid if you don't have the invoice exactly as they want it with part numbers etc.

Excellent price, I'll speak to both the local pug dealers and see what discount I can negotiate. I got 20% off the fixed price servicing when I had my Toyota by doing the same thing.

Just rang PugCity in Hull and they have told me a maximum of £90 for the service. Very happy with that so will book it in there. I rang the local Evan Halshaw but the wanted £184.

I have just had service done today plus Apple car play update. Booked it online was quoted £251 they called this afternoon to drop car off and take payment. Then charged me £179 result. Was Peugeot Derby.

UPDATE, I have spoken to them and they said I can take it anywhere but make sure if any parts are used that they are Peugeot approved.

I live in Hull and my warranty is due in 3 weeks. Just enquired on-line to find that local dealership has closed down.
It looks like the closest is Grimsby or Driffield, both are a around an hour away (with toll charges for Grimsby) in daytime traffic.

Do I have to use the official dealers? This seems a little crazy in this scenario.

I'll be paying £132 myself, not paying for extras ( IMO the spark plugs, air filter and cabin filter defiantly don't need changing after my mileage of 10k and 1year old )

Looking at their online booking, my dealer wants £132 for the service. But it "suggests" another £45 for pollen filter, £25 for air filter, £83 for spark plugs saying:

"The items listed are part of your vehicle's servicing schedule. Based on your vehicle's age and mileage, we strongly recommend that these are carried out by your Peugeot Dealer. If your Peugeot is still in Warranty, these items are essential. If you are unsure on anything, our Peugeot-trained experts will be happy to talk you through your options."

Now to me, the £132 means they will complete the service schedule stamp which = happy leasing company on return of the car. So not planning to pay for these "extras". Views?

Been quoted £295 by Robins & Day Newcastle...! The search will continue!

It's a great car, Issues have been small and dealt with under warranty so all good.

Thanks :smiley:

almost certain its just oil and filter for first service, ring another dealer. They may have changed the servicing to the newer engine fitted to ours but I doubt it and needing plugs that regularly doesn't sound right.

Anyone had first service yet or been quoted. Just had quote from Trusscotts Exeter at £200. Said needed spark plugs replaced every 12 months. Seems odd for a modern engine???

Ah man sorry to hear you've had so much beef with your car :/ hopefully no more.

Hi All, Success, It was a fault on the BSI again.

All fixed under warranty.

This is clearly a warranty issue, no way should they charge unless they find a tyre damaged and offer to replace it.

It doesn't even reset, I called the dealers and it's £60 to diagnose.

Take no notice of anybody else go to your appointed dealer and let them sort it out, that is what warranties are for.

So you have gone into the car menu and gone into tyre pressure re- initiasation and confirmed all tyres are now correct ? If you are doing this and it comes back in a few hours or days then you probably have a small leak on one of your other tyres.

Tried pumping them all at the same psi and still not resetting. I noticed the valve has been changed by the garage, Possibly for a none sensor type as I can't tell from the outside.

I did try swapping for the spare and the light still won't go out.

No way I literally had my first ever car puncture last week in my GTI, the tyre pressure warning system went off. You have to get the puncture repaired and inflate all 4 tyres to the correct amount ( if you just focus on the repaired tyre the others will have naturally lost some pressure since you last checked ) after all 4 are the same reinitialise the system on the cars screen.

Had a puncture and it looks like the tyre puncture sensor is broken as I can't reset the system. Any one else had this?

I would have thought that updating the maps is a dealer only job and for a fee if a new map update is even available unless pug have been very nice and let you have free map updates over wifi ( never bothered connecting my car up to the wifi though )

Even if you get the latest update it may still not be on the providers maps yet.

Has anyone managed to update the maps on their satnav? Got a new Job this week and my sense of direction is awful, having to use my phone to get there as the car takes me through the busiest part of town since it doesn't know about a new by-pass that was built last year

Mine have a tendency to go down.. The label on my door frame doesn't indicate the correct PSI though, unless i'm missing something?

I filled mine and they were all quite low too. I got no alert so not sure how good this sensor is? On my Merc i used to get alerted straight away.

I checked mine he other month and they were all low by quite a few PSI. Don't know if they have to be substantially low or even flat as a pancake before the tyre pressure warning system alerts us. I know you can re- initialise it, but need another read of the manual to work out when / if that's required.

Thanks. All the cars i have had before always had it on the fuel cap.

Tyre pressure label is on the passenger door frame

The car is great so far and not had any major problems. Done just under 6k miles in around 8 months.
I noticed the front tyre looks low but the tyre pressure monitor has not alerted me on anything?
I looked behind the fuel cap to see what pressure the tyres are supposed to be and its not there?
Anyone know what pressure i need to put in front and back tyres?

Im young and it is so much more fun, difference is night and day. I'd find it slow and boring standard, couldn't go back to it :laughing: Considering a proper stage 1 remap costs 300-400 its not overpriced. The car copes fine, not sure where these lack of grip comments are coming from because theres loads of it! Even with the box on max setting i've not managed to wheel spin in dry conditions due to the LSD.

I'm not young but enjoy driving so I would get the tdi box but not at that price.

I do wonder haw the car would cope with the extra power as it is a bit light at the front and loses grip quick.

Oh agree it's already a very very quick car , but I wouldn't mind making it a animal because I'm young and dumb like that. Having even more power would mean that the 1% of my driving that uses all of it will be even funner ha.

I am quite middle aged and boring which you should bear in mind when you read this....but I find it's more than quick enough as it is in the real world especially given I dont have access to a track :smiley: And at lower speeds, with 2wd only, it struggles to put down the power it has.

Yes Dan, I have a chip on my car and can be reprogrammed for as it states on the TDI web site " suitable cars " and yes I understand you can sell it on.
For the gains I get, which in the power and acceleration department, are very good, I would not have purchased if going to move on in 2/3 years after purchase from new. But I do intend to keep my car for a period am already nearly 4 years.

What Dan said ^, plus I have 14 months left. Once the contracts up just take it off and sell it or send it back to reprogram it on the next car.

Well we have 12months left on our contracts so for £30 pm more we can get a even higher performing car that will no doubt match cars from the class above. I believe these boxes are transferable from car to car just send off to TDI tuning for reprogramming and possibly new plugs.

I'm not sure I get this, You have spent £360 on apiece of kit that you can only use for 18 months and 15,000 miles. The worlds gone made and the poor invalids can't even get a mobility car on the new to be introduced PIP rules. GOD help us all.

Yeah, got mine from the official site. https://www.tdi-tuning.co.uk/car_and_van_petrol_tuning_boxes/peugeot_/208/gti_30th_anniversary_205_bhp__208_ps__153_kw/peugeot_208_gti_30th_anniversary_205_bhp_208_ps_153_kw_crtd2_multichannel_petrol_tuning_box_chip_P10282.html

Do you have a link to the TDI box.

I'd recommend it definitely, its basically a removable stage 1 remap. Can feel a huge improvement, only issue is mpg has gone down a bit but thats to be expected :laughing: . I didn't get it dyno'd before so couldn't say unfortunately.

Nice commenting about the TDI box, I've heard both the tuning boxes work and don't work in equal amounts - might be due to the supplier of them. Nothing beats a good proper ECU retune, but I was after the ease of removal of a tuning box.

what was the car running stock on the dyno ? curious to see how accurate their claim is.

I've had mine for 4 months now, done almost 3300 miles and loving it. Its a brilliant car. Recently bought and fitted a tdi tuning box and its transformed the car into a total animal, feels so much quicker than standard. Had it dyno'd on its max setting and it put out 230bhp 370nm torque from the standard 208bhp 300nm torque.

Amen about the car being from stock otherwise do you risk having 2 cars costing you for a number of months or risk being car less for up to a few months. One thing is for sure it seams most of these lease company's can never achieve their qouted delivery date unless it is in stock. It's not even just the cheap lease company's my friend went through lex auto lease and paid a pretty penny to get a jeep and end up settling for a Nissan SUV from stock after 8 months of waiting/ messing around.

Likewise, 6 months, 4000 miles and loving it. Will be a sad day when it returns in less than a year.
The question that's in the back of my mind now is what to go for next? Ideally it has to be one that's in stock as I really cannot afford to have the number of delays like this had at the start.

Loving the car, gonna have to make some repairs before it goes back though :disappointed:. a van forced me off the side of the road and my wing mirror clipped a tree, cover came off. It went back on fine but it has scratches and dents on it so it's gonna need replacing...
I'm on about 3300 miles at the moment, i'm on a 5k limit though. I'll be cycling through a lot of summer so hopefully should end up about where it should!
Mine's booked in with my local Peugeot on April 4th to sort the fuel tank issue. Not that I foresee rolling the car but hey :neutral_face:.

I have the same concern as you though. In 12 months time, I'm not going to get the same quality of car for anywhere near the same price :disappointed:

6 months on how we all getting on with our GTI's ? I'm still loving mine, going to be extremely hard to get a equal car anywhere near this cheap when it goes back :/

I find I get 33mpg urban and 40mpg+ on a long run depending how I drive.

Also done 6k in mine, so going to go over 10k but happy to pay the extra for the extra use.

Did we all get the lovely safety recall letter ? Something about it may leak fuel in a crash if the car rolls, just more of a incentive not to roll the car hahaha.

Dan

I'm very surprised the dealer had the cheek to charge, surely they could see that the security bolts fitted and socket supplied was from the OEM. Sound like he had a bit of a rubbish dealer.

Cheers for the heads up through, will check my locking wheel nuts and socket later.

Not sinse the update I got at the dealer :smiley: although it seams like when it's very cold out the screen takes a few seconds to boot so pared to instantly when the weather is okay.

I still get them.... but very rare.

On a separate note, my brother had a massive issue with his locking nut not fitting properly to the key socket, after a small puncture.

After a lot of messing about he had to go to the local Peugeot dealer and have them all cut off at a cost of £100. He's still trying to get Peugeot finance to pay him back for it. I've ordered a set of McGard Ultra Security bolts for my GTI which I'll be replacing the Peugeot set with next week.

Worth checking your own as apparently it's a well known problem.

Anyone still having head unit reboots? I get them less now but still happens.......

Sorry biker I can't tell you for security reasons that I drive a Dacia Lodgy.

I have no idea what car you drive, but to get 40k-45k miles from a set of tyres is pretty impressive. What car is it?

I'd expect the 208 GTi to get no more than 20k from the front set and that's if you drive like a saint. Have a bit of fun in it and you'll probably get 12k from them.

Also, it's far more than just driving style having an impact. Drive 20k miles on a motorway/dual carriageway and I'm certain you won't get the same mileage if you drive on countryside A/B roads with long sweeping bends where it's safe to do 50+mph. Also, tyre pressures - must admit I'm not the type of person to check them monthly like you should, probably once every 3-4 months - but they have a huge impact even if they're out by a couple of psi.

Well to be honest I don't have a TDG ( tread depth gauge ) but I have a steel rule and I'll go measure how much tread I have left with 5k on the clock. My old car ( aygo ) only got 15k from the fronts and that was with premium rubber on it and owning from new, being a powerful front wheel drive car the fronts are always going to take a hammering compared with a bog standard hatch.

Seriously biker I would expect them to do more than that, my fronts, not on this car have done over 30 thousand and look to have about 10 to 15 thousand more on them. Mine are Continental, what are yours? Also depends, as you know, how you drive.

That's quite a broad spectrum, but very true lol. The rears will more than likely last longer than the lease period, but I think my fronts will be close to being illagal / need replacing before it goes back ( expecting the car to be between 15-20k when it goes back )

Between 10 and 50 thousand.

Any predictions on the front tyre mileage before they need replacing?

Yes its running OK now.

You only get one chance to program the BSI to the car so I guess they failed on the first attempt.

so no doubt all these BSI issues were caused by the battery not being connected properly, surprised the new one fitted didn't work ether ( maybe installed/set up incorrectly by the dealer ? ) so is the car running okay now on its second BSI ?

New BSI fitted twice a the first one didn't work and I had no car for 3 days without a replacement.

After calling Peugeot UK with no help at all I had to call Peugeot finance and tell them they can keep the car and send me out cancellation paperwork as I had enough.

In the end I was offered a hire car which they were paying for 73 hours after they had the car but got a call from the dealers a couple of hours before the hire car would be available to say it was ready.

I have never had this with a car brand or dealer before. :disappointed:

I found this regarding the BSI unit http://www.petercoopercarrepairs.co.uk/peugeot_bsi_reboot_procedure.htm

Lucky for me I could use one or our work vans or I would have been stuck 25 miles from home.

Proper crap then, I suppose at least your not waiting weeks for a part but the dealer really should have gave you a demo or a used car to run around in.

Had a rubbish day with the dealers. Car needs a new computer unit and it won't be in until tomorrow. The dealer Bristol street motors in Northampton, Peugeot customer services or the Peugeot finance company are no help at all. I have to be without any transport while they fix it as they have said there is no car available. I may get one after they have it for 48 hours.

Blimey that's mega crap :/ I've been to the dealers once already for loose undercar trim and a software update on the screen. They do say that if a car is going to fails it's going to within the first 6 months of ownership then hopefully plain sailing after that.

Well not a great start 700 miles in and the car died on me. No life at all so looked under the bonnet and the battery terminal wasn't locked on. I locked the battery terminal on and now the car will not lock or stay unlocked without the alarm going off. Into the dealers to be told they can't fix it today and have no curtesy cars available. Hope I get it back tomorrow, they suspect a faulty bonnet switch but I'm thinking alarm or ecu is gone.

Looking at that I'm glad it expired.