Ok, so I didn't know, so needed to look it up.....

The cordless drill/driver is by far the most popular portable power tool of all time, and it's not going to lose that title anytime soon. However, cordless drills are beginning to lose ground to a relatively new type of cordless tool, the impact driver. That's got do-it-yourselfers everywhere asking questions: What's the difference between a drill/driver and an impact driver? How does an impact driver work? And if I own a drill/driver, why would I need an impact driver?

A cordless drill/driver is a versatile tool that's designed to drill holes and drive screws. Its keyless chuck accepts a wide variety of round- and hex-shank drill bits and screw-driving bits, as well as hole saws, rotary sanders, wire-wheel brushes, and other accessories. All cordless drill/drivers are also equipped with a slip clutch that allows you to adjust the amount of torque for precise, consistent screwdriving.

An impact driver looks similar to a drill/driver but for one noticeable distinction—instead of a keyless chuck, it has a collet that accepts hex-shanked driver bits. This tool is specially engineered to do one job: drive screws, which it does faster and easier than any other tool. Impact drivers can drive long, large fasteners—including fat lag screws—that would stall the very best drill/driver.

The impact driver uses both bit rotation and concussive blows to power-drive screws through the thickest, densest woods. The result of this combo is raw, unadulterated power. In fact, impact drivers typically deliver two to three times more turning force (torque) than the average drill/driver. How powerful? During a recent Popular Mechanics tool test, one 18-volt impact driver drove an astonishing 138 3-inch lag screws on a single charge. Despite its brute strength, an impact driver is easy and comfortable to use because the concussive action transfers much of that high-energy torque directly to the screw, not to your wrist or forearm. (An impact driver does not have a slip clutch, but the concussive action allows you to drive screws with great control and precision.)

So, if you're planning projects that require driving a ton of screws, or a lot of very large or long screws, then consider an impact driver. For example, impact drivers are ideal for building decks, installing tile backer board, and screwing down plywood subfloors. If you're not planning to work on such projects, you might want to stick with the versatility of the cordless drill/driver. However, the gap between these two useful tools might be closing: Some manufacturers now offer drill chucks and other hole-drilling accessories for use in an impact driver

Torque is cheap, we'll have to wait and see.

Mine gets lots of use. Might look into a spare battery. For £39.99 this was a steal.

No Mate, only a single battery, but you can get one from the distributors web site for about £16, p/p included, so the instruction manual says !!

Contacted gizly it will take 28 days to replace, hope I don't need it, they must be making my drill from scratch and gold plating it

Tried to contact about drill 3 times at [email protected], no reply

hmm, worrying. Will have to test mine out when I get a bit of time. Thx for the headsup.

Mine failed on the first job, just stopped working battery appears to be ok lights indicate full charge

The battery on mine has failed this weekend. Not sure if charge dropped below the safe threshold but just comes up as battery failure on the charger and won't charge at all. Oh well was handy for the one job I got out of it

At 19.95 for a spare, I don't understand why they don't sell it with two batteries for £60 - makes it much more attractive.

For those after another battery, I ordered one by emailing [email protected]. Got the following response:

Ok thanks for the replies. Does anybody know anywhere else I can find them? Or is it just a lidl thing..

Has anyone managed to order a spare battery? I can't find the correct place on the site. Have emailed support but no reply yet.

The driver is a beast! Laid 30 sq metres of decking and built a shed on the weekend, well impressed

It certainly does look exactly like the one pictured I'm afraid. Bear in mind that this isn't your average run-of-the-mill screwdriver, it's an impact driver, and has a much higher torque rating than the swivel head one that you're referring to. Hope that helps!

Yes, it does.

Had a look in the roker sunderland store today and they didn't have any boo. They had a parkside drill for £29.99 and a parkside cordless screwdriver (a smaller hand held swivel one). The screwdriver didn't look anything like the one in this picture.

Can anyone confirm that it does actually look exactly like the picture?

Camberley had three in stock yesterday. Seems astonishing value for money and pretty well built. Charged up in under an hour.

"80001161" nicht gefunden!

I bought one last night (the first Lidl I visited didn't have any out, but the second one - Bellingham - still had 3 at 8.45pm).
I used it last night to drive some 6x100 screws into 3 lengths of timber. I'd previously tried to use my 18V Drill, and, when that didn't work, tried a 900W drill. After all of this, the screws were still sticking proud by about an inch, and I'd begrudgingly left them like that up until now. The Impact Driver attacked these so rapidly I was amazed. Both screws countersunk into the wood in about 2 seconds each. I'm simply amazed right now at how good these are at the job and am looking for other things that need some hefty screwing! :smiley:

Box says spare battery available for £15.95 from Service and to see the website. Won't load on my phone as uses flash.

Part number on the battery is
PAP 18-1.5 A1
http://www.grizzly-service.eu
Art No 80001161
Grizzly Tools

Very minor differences in the plastic drill body but the metal parts look identical and battery also looks identical in shape from what I can see. I would say this almost certainly came from the same factory.

Is the battery compatible with the jigsaw and circular saw that you mentioned? I was thinking of getting one for my brother in law who has those tools. Might not if the battery is not compatible

Only 4 in my lidl. Was 1st there and got 2 :smiley: 35quid each with voucher. No carry case and only 1 battery, but for that price you can't be to fussy. With 3 years warranty it's even better deal :smiley: As mentioned above we'll be able to get spare battery somewhere :smiley:

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tools/d40/Impact+Tools/sd3338/GMC+18V+Li-ion+Impact+Driver+/p98425

Same?

Do we think this battery would fit? https://www.kompernass.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=853

More than likely. I have a blue bosch die grinder with an 3ah battery and managed to find a bare bones blue bosch impact driver for £70 online.

Worth spending the extra £30 (£38 sith voucher and discount) IMO.

I'm sure these will do the business in small doses.

^ Hopefully will be able to get spare batteries here soon? https://www.kompernass.com/index.php?_route_=Parkside

Had a look in Littlehampton were they had about 10 at 930 this morning. Only one battery - 1.5ah with 1 hour charger so decided to give a miss. Im sure it will perform well enough but id rather have either a bigger battery, two batteries or 30minute charge time. Nothing worse than having to down tools waiting for a battery to charge.

And could have had for 31.50 as daughter works there and gets 10% discount.

Did buy nailer/stapler though - with enough nails and staples to last a lifetime.

Commentnews papers but i got free voucher from Lidl instore news flyer :wink:

This is an impressive bit of kit.
Just whacked 3" x 12 screws in to a bit of timber with no effort at all.
It feels well made as soon as you pick it up. Bought one on the off chance as it was way cheaper than anything similar in screwfix.
I rarely buy budget end tools like this.
For 35 quid I'm well pleased, just wish I had it back in march when I was repairing fences. If you're thinking about it, don't hesitate.
These aren't going to be around for long. First Lidl had sold out at 11am, second store had two left.
(£5 off 40 vouchers with a flyer in saturday papers, express, mail)

Bought an Einhell battery powered leaf blower recently from Amazon, which came with no battery, great!!. Equiv Einhell charger on amazon £40, equiv battery £45. The Parkside battery pack and charger are the same and battery fits on Einhell, so saved a fortune and get a driver to boot, thanks very much indeed Lidl!

Not sure I need one yet, but just bought one, about 5 more in stock at lunch time.

How do you get the £5 voucher??

I also got one this morning on the way to work. There were also only four out on display. Not had chance to have a play with it yet but I thought it was worth a go for £40. Sounds like I missed out on a £5 voucher though!

Was first customer in store on the way to work, they had only 4 in stock which us very less for their demand I think must have been sold by lunch time but definitely a great price with £5 voucher as pro brands are double price or even more

I purchased one today it is a windup only 4in the store, good luck

I still don't get why these are so good if you always have to drill a hole first..... am I missing something?

Was only one left after I purchased one this morning in our local, plenty of nailer/staplers left though.

Thanks for that johndoc90

Also purchased, battery is different from the recent 18v impact drill, circular saw and jig saw. This one suggest a new range including a reciprocating saw and cordless grinder. The impact driver is a fairly heavy unit, usual good Parkside build quality. Tried it with a 6 inch screw into tough wood, no problem at all. Much easier than my cordless drill/driver. Hope this helps.

Just purchased. Can confirm: comes with ONE 1.5Ah battery. No case. Comes with a 1/4" square adapter and a bit holder. (mine came with two each of these though manual suggests only one each) NO driver bit. One hour charge time. Manual states, "Mind not to charge appliance for more than an hour..." suggests that charger does not have full charge shut off. All in, Im happy with my purchase, got extra £5 off with voucher, so for £35, nice! Shame there is no driver bit. Would have expected one so the machine is usable from the box.

Wonder if this is the one we will get in the Uk - https://youtu.be/lP31m05MSPU

Does this come with a carry case?

Does this come with a carry case?

Does this use the same battery as the Parkside drill?

Why would

You can always use a bit holder.

I buy the de walt 50mm from screwfix - £6 for 15 pz2s. Disposable at that price. Cheaper than some screws.

Alternatively buy boxes of cheap 50mm bits and be happy throwing them away as they wear.

Even the expensive ones wear eventually.

For those of you looking at getting this impact driver, who havent had an impact driver before.....they are an awesome tool if you need to drive screws into something tough (e.g. driving 4" screws into timber, or driving the frame-fixers into concrete etc). You will still need a drill to make the initial hole.
You will also need some decent screw-driver bits....as the impact (as said above, its an electric screwdriver, where it taps the screwdriver to turn it round when a screw is tight) tends to wear out cheap screw-driver bits quickly..... some people swear by dewalt bits, others milwaukee....either way you should be able to get a set of impact rated bits for £4-6....

Some people are so rude there is no call for it at all. I had only asked a question, thank you to those who replied without making a laugh of me and to the others, well I wish you a good day

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you seem confused between a drill driver and an impact driver, id bet this is 180nm or close , i have 3 impacts one brushless Milwaukee 12v putting out around 130 nm another 18v putting out 180nm and another 18v that has 360nm milwaukee have an 18v impact wrench that does 600nm

180nm is standard for an 18v impact driver

How does this compare to a dewalt impact?

thanks for the info, tempted to get one

would setting my drill to hammer function have the same effect as an impact driver?

?!

http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/impact-drivers/all-cordless-impact-drivers/dtd129rfe-18v-impact-driver-li-ion.html

Mine are done to 116nm, this is pretty low compared to normal cars. probably say 130-150nm for an average hatchback?

Could this be used to remove wheel nuts on a car?

Would this be any good for drilling into porcelain bathroom tiles? Thanks

Depends who done it up on the first place.. Many silly garages overtighten wheel nuts nowadays.
I would use a breaker bar personally.

Sooo, what form of work can you do with one of these that does not require prior drilling?

"Compact and powerful with high torque and impact rate for driving screws into metal (up to M8) or wood (up to 8mm)"

8mm? Not very useful is it. Would need a blimming short screw.

So is it any good if i just need put some paintings on the walls? Or do
I still need some drill?

Looks a good deal, I'm guessing they won't have loads of stock of these on the day?

Ok, so I didn't know, so needed to look it up.....

The cordless drill/driver is by far the most popular portable power tool of all time, and it's not going to lose that title anytime soon. However, cordless drills are beginning to lose ground to a relatively new type of cordless tool, the impact driver. That's got do-it-yourselfers everywhere asking questions: What's the difference between a drill/driver and an impact driver? How does an impact driver work? And if I own a drill/driver, why would I need an impact driver?

A cordless drill/driver is a versatile tool that's designed to drill holes and drive screws. Its keyless chuck accepts a wide variety of round- and hex-shank drill bits and screw-driving bits, as well as hole saws, rotary sanders, wire-wheel brushes, and other accessories. All cordless drill/drivers are also equipped with a slip clutch that allows you to adjust the amount of torque for precise, consistent screwdriving.

An impact driver looks similar to a drill/driver but for one noticeable distinction—instead of a keyless chuck, it has a collet that accepts hex-shanked driver bits. This tool is specially engineered to do one job: drive screws, which it does faster and easier than any other tool. Impact drivers can drive long, large fasteners—including fat lag screws—that would stall the very best drill/driver.

The impact driver uses both bit rotation and concussive blows to power-drive screws through the thickest, densest woods. The result of this combo is raw, unadulterated power. In fact, impact drivers typically deliver two to three times more turning force (torque) than the average drill/driver. How powerful? During a recent Popular Mechanics tool test, one 18-volt impact driver drove an astonishing 138 3-inch lag screws on a single charge. Despite its brute strength, an impact driver is easy and comfortable to use because the concussive action transfers much of that high-energy torque directly to the screw, not to your wrist or forearm. (An impact driver does not have a slip clutch, but the concussive action allows you to drive screws with great control and precision.)

So, if you're planning projects that require driving a ton of screws, or a lot of very large or long screws, then consider an impact driver. For example, impact drivers are ideal for building decks, installing tile backer board, and screwing down plywood subfloors. If you're not planning to work on such projects, you might want to stick with the versatility of the cordless drill/driver. However, the gap between these two useful tools might be closing: Some manufacturers now offer drill chucks and other hole-drilling accessories for use in an impact driver

no not suitable at all for porcelain. you ideally need good drill, not driver and vari speed to make starting off easier. The correct (prob diamond) bit and a cooling system, usually combined with guide to make the diamond drilling easier.

I think you mean driver

folks this is an impact drill..Think those air impact guns they fit your tyres with only, on a smaller scale.

They are perfect for screwing and unscrewing ..take all the torque out of the work and can be amazing at getting really old stiff screws out .

You will need a rotary drill to go with this ..But once you get familiar with this tool it is really a good addition ..I use a Hilti 21 v mostly but also have a hitachi 18v and a Hitachi 10.8 v ..the Hitachi will get any screw out and the Hilti will put any screw in ..
If you haven't ever tried this type of power tool I recommend something this price to try ..you won't regret it ..But you will need to buy some impact bits ... Normal bits smash up after a few minutes use .

Or, I know how to drill very well :wink:


....(no its a small kitchen :disappointed:)

Wonder if it can actually achieve 180nm. Most of the budget impact drivers are around 90nm so this one is up in the expensive driver range.
I picked up one at asda a few months back in a kit with a drill, circular saw etc and it claims 120nm and has been pretty good, but it struggles a bit driving into concrete.

Is this made by Makita ?

I've just started DIY and seem to spend all of my time from swapping from drill to screwdriver bit and back again in my drill, and have been after an impact driver for a while.

I've got a Bosch PSB 18 LI-2 drill which is rated to 54NM. Is this likely to be significantly better? I rarely rinse the battery in one sitting so I'm not too bothered about a single battery.

Is the 180NM rating likely to be accurate? I do also work on cars and it'd be handy to use this as an impact wrench - if this could undo a wheel bolt done up to 125NM that would be awesome (but unexpected!).

argos are selling an 18v hammer drill for £32.99 which has two batteries . just got one to replace my old parkside drill which i had for 15 years

The photo shows 2 batteries. I dont expect there to be two - I'm just highlighting that it's probably misleading. If it has 2 batteries - and they are 3ah size - I'll happily by one. I would never buy a drill or driver that had only one battery and took any more than 20 or 30 mins to charge.

You managed to fit a whole kitchen without charging your drill? Really small kitchen.

ha imagine trying that with an impact!

Picture looks like two batteries but no mention in blurb. Two batteries a must - especially with a 60 minute charge time.

If it did have two batteries, i reckon they would make a selling point of that in the description.
I would expect only one.

would this have variable speed?

Not depth?? Width.

Pretty good quality for the money, warranty is normally honoured (keep receipt) and spares are available....