Personally think you're better off getting the new macbook. The retina display on it's own justifies the extra £150

I just don't like the idea of having to use an adapter to plug anything in except the charger, at least this has 2 usb ports

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n the message above. Please tell me if you know what they are. Love, dad.

I went in to JL to buy the 128GB at £699 (the stock is fluctuating daily)
Unfortunately was OOS on the day so opted for the 11' at £679.
Got to the till and noticed this model as clearance, open box for £799
Ended up buying this with the 3 year warranty.

must resist

The benefit to the customer is that socketed RAM is bulkier than soldered RAM, making it harder or impossible to give the machine the slenderness which is its selling point. Remember this is not aimed at those who need a lot of grunt - it is a vanity fashion item which is quite good but not intended to be a programmer or gamer's workhorse.

Soldering will also save a couple of grams (important to obsessives), and is also more reliable than sockets, though I suspect the difference is minimal.

Of course, you could also argue that it helps to introduce built-in obsolescence, which keeps the money flowing to Apple.

This is what makes them so small!

4GB RAM which can't be upgraded. Cold.

No the next model up was the 13" 512gb 2.6ghz

Thank you, that helps a lot, you have no idea. Is your now the same spec in terms of screen also?

You got a very good deal, I bought my one a few months after it came out (13 months ago) for £1,059 refurbished, saved £150 from buying it new.

Ok deal heat worthy - I felt the need to replace my aging 2010 macbook pro 15 this year as its my workhorse, I looked at the Air, Macbook & the Pro. I really liked the idea of the air (the macbook was written off cause its just not powerful enough) but the lack of retina is a major negative. I opted for the MBPr 13 2015 model - its the base one, 2.7Ghz/8Gb/128Gb and the battery life of this one is nothing short of incredible - it says 11 Hrs, I reckon you can eek more than that out of it if your careful.

I picked this one up last week brand new still sealed from a reseller on eBay for £849 delivered and well worth every penny if your looking for an upgrade

Thanks. Do you have the 15 inch? What do you mean next model up? Is yours a 12 inch?

I'm very far from an apple hater as I own a number of apple products. Objectively, there is no way anyone should be spending £900 on a computer with 4GB RAM. Especially not one of the newer apple laptops where upgrading the RAM is not something you can do yourself. Part of the value of Apple laptops is the longevity but 4GB RAM is not going to cut it for years to come.

I think that's a good rMBP. I have the 2013 next model up. But I got it for £760 brand new at the time when it was the current model. You should stick with it.

[quote=escortboy]This thing must be blisteringly fast with an i5 processor and 4GB RAM. Absolute bargain for under a grand, doubt this kind of spec would be seen at this price bracket for quite a while.[/quote

:smirk: time traveller from the past?

This thing must be blisteringly fast with an i5 processor and 4GB RAM. Absolute bargain for under a grand, doubt this kind of spec would be seen at this price bracket for quite a while.

Haha, you're right. I wonder where he charges it...

Unless he bought it new and this was his first (and last) day using it?

Ohhh no I dont have electricity at home... Spent all the money on my MBA so that I can fit into the hipster wannabe group at uni...Now I just need to get some money to by those dorky looking non prescription glasses in pradamark

overpriced underspecced. Every thing you want when buying apple I suppose so heat added.

outdated tech.

He doesn't say he does that. He does imply that he has to use it on batteries while at home however.

Being Unix based OS X is good at managing memory. Especially with the new memory compression features that came out with Mavericks however you will soon find even with all this doohickery most of the time a fresh booted OS X machine will be using up more than half yor memory especially when the graphics chip is sharing a hood chunk of it. Run onyx and you'll see what I mean. Realistically I prefer windows management of memory and that's terrible in itself. You also need a good 8GB of ram to not bottleneck the processor bandwidth. As someone said 4GB is quite literally the bottleneck in these machines. This is why I paid 20 quid extra and got an amerocan retina with 256GB and 8GB ram as compared to a UK keyboard on a 128GB machine with 4GB ram.

There's a reason the new machine a start with 8GB. Apple is notorious for crippling their systems and even they think 8GB is the bare minimum these days.

Cold for me - the XPS13 can be had cheaper than this with VIP coupon and has a 3200x1800 infinity screen, 8gb RAM and an i7 Broadwell

OS X is amazing handling RAM, especially when compared to a 4gb windows computer
however, the 4gb is the 'bottleneck' of this set up. Paying extra will future proof the laptop, and the extra 4gb RAM will really help when you're browsing with 20+ tabs open.

Why, is Mac os that bad?

Clearly he does, how else would he charge it to 100% before leaving home for uni?

not really an amazing deal.

if you are planning on getting an Air, please please PLEASE choose the 8gb RAM.

Don't you poor students have electricity in your homes nowadays?

Just so everyones aware, this is NOT the latest model, the 2015 models are MJVM2LL/A, MJVP2LL/A, MJVE2LL/A, MJVG2LL/A a quick look at the Graphics card specs confirm this.

Looks like not the "latest model", the description of the link says "4th generation dual-core Intel Core i5". The latest will contain 5th gen i5 (and also perhaps runs a little faster). But thank you for posting ....

MBA is really all about the battery life. Lightness and thinness are just additional benefits. I take mine to uni every day where I'm stuck from 9-4 + 3hrs commute return.... I get home and I still have good 40% left to carry on with my coursework.

This is for the old, end of life model, not the refreshed version launched 3 weeks ago. It's a similar price across many other retailers

Depends who it was re-furbished by i.e. generic dealer or Apple approved. I fail to see how your household insurance will cover you for hardware breakdowns etc which an Applecare warranty would.

If it's the Macbook Pro Retina, then it's a good price, although personally I would want it with a UK layout and boxed if I was buying pre-owned, but that's just my choice. . If you find the US keyboard layout works for you, that's all that matters.

Where are you getting 4GB of DDR3 RAM for £5?

Yeah I think so, I wouldn't worry about it, I'd use it. You have it now, whether it's a good or bad deal is immaterial, it's a quality tool, use it :smiley: I bought a late 2014 Mac Mini and I'm happy with it, just getting used to using OSX more really. I got it for some projects I'm doing.

Which is worth about £5... even if Apple will lie to you that it's worth more...

Just for the record the SSD drive makes such a difference, this is about 3x the speed of my imac just cos of the drive

Yeah but did I get a good deal for the specs?

If you want a Mac then keep it and use it is my advice.

all apple had to do was add retina to the air.

The pro is also heavier on the other hand.

I picked the 13" air instead of the Pro because it is much lighter.

Personally think you're better off getting the new macbook. The retina display on it's own justifies the extra £150

Not bad, you could buy the last years 8gb i5 Retina MacBook Pro for £980 with 256gb SSD On apples refurbished web site, that seems a better deal, the screen alone is worth an extra £80.