Err, what am I missing here? :neutral_face:.. take the sump plug out, and let the oil drain out normally, why the hell are you lot all using pumps to remove engine oil??? :confused:

Er...

amazing for stealing fuel

Some of the smart cars and plenty of others..

D5 Volvo XC70. Top mounted oil filter. has sump plug and undertray. Bought Lidl pump this week. Not as slow as advertised. Enough time do other engine bay checks and top up rest of fluids. Clean and quiet. A blessing for this ageing body's back and knees :wink:

I bought one of these on Monday and used it yesterday. It worked very well and was quite quiet. Made the oil change much easier than normal as my car has quite low ground clearance and a base plate that has to be removed before you can get to the sump. I powered the pump from a battery charger which I am glad of as the whole process took about 20 minutes and I would not want to be running it from my battery for that length of time.

The smiley wasn't a clue?

sorry, but sometimes I am confused by some of the discussions on HUKD and am hoping that WAS a joke....

Can it be useful to Extract gearbox oil brake fluid Or radiator coolant

Main dealers and independent workshops have been extracting oil via the dipstick tube for years. They use vacuum pumps which are better and you can buy a good one for about £45 (Sealey TP69). The myth that it is better to change oil the old fashioned way was debunked long ago.

The point I was making was this, it takes time for new methods to be accepted by the majority.

Agreed, a lot do have that set up, like your E320 my wife's C63 does. And it's a great solution. However, none of the cars I've owned have including my current Mk5 Golf.

Paul

Probably meant diff/gearbox oil, I think some boxes don't have drain plugs just level/filler plugs.

Which BMs don't have a sump plug?

found this on google

a lot of cars now have a vertically mounted oil filter accessible from the top of the engine which when you unscrew drains back into the housing, so you undo that first and let cover rest on housing while you suck out oil then change filter and use suction pipe to remove dregs of oil from filter housing, no mess, my merc e320 had this, my mondeo has similar filter half way down but easily changed, my friends honda accord diesel was the same. very quick and clean to change oil and filter

Any oil change is better than none or a stripped sump plug thread.

That's true if said sludge doesn't block the oil pickup. That aside, if you have sludge in your oil you're either using the wrong oil for the car/ climate or you don't change the oil regularly enough.

There's also one very important point that has only just been touched on here. Those that have ever actually changed the oil on a car would know that changing the filter is the messiest part of the job, by far, as the oil in it goes everywhere, no matter how said filter is orientated. My last car placed the filter in the ideal position, exactly vertical screwing in to the oil filter housing from the bottom (mucky end up) and even that used to go everywhere. As soon as you unscrewed it enough to break the seal it would run down the filter leaving you frantically trying to unscrew it as fast as you could whilst losing grip on it and getting your hand and arm covered in hot oil the whole time.
This device will not mitigate that in anyway. As such, it's pointless unless it's for removing excess oil. Sorry OP.

Paul

Oh what a load of nonsense on here. Yes this pump may well leave some sludge at the bottom of the sump. However it will be run through the oil filter before it goes round the engine. Also draining this way eliminates the need for an oil drain pan. Instead you can pump the oil out into a handy container...not down the drain...for recycling.

Most cars have a service interval of 10-20k miles now. This allows the layman to drain a good portion of the oil in between and top it up with clean stuff. That way your still helping the engine run smoother. Though how this would have an impact on service interval lights I'm not sure.

Draining oil this way has much less of a consequence than other techniques I've come across in car servicing. How about Kwik Fit draining the Brake fluid reservoir with a pump and then topping it up, to then claim they'd changed all the fluid Oo

I second that opinion. I didn't know that garages were sucking out old oil. News to me.

so....

is this powered by car battery? which would mean engine is turned off? which could lead to flat battery by the time oil is pumped out...

or am I exaggerating?

here is a video of one that looks awfully similar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRcqsjvdPTI

You have to get under the car to change the filter anyway so it's a waste of time. Even if your filter is easy to get to on the front you'll still have a load of oil drop down the engine.

Looks like a tool for cowboys.

Many modern cars have oil filter on top and oil is changed using a suction pump, so whole job takes a lot less time than it used to

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My smart roadster hasn't got a sump plug so unless I want to take off the whole sump this is the only way mate

Some BM's don't have sump plugs plus the Americans have been doing it like this for years.

how noisy is it? would it wake the neighbours up if i used it at 2am?

also how fast? usual response time is about 20 minutes.

For many years some people argued that a proper oils change involved the use of flushing oil. Before that some were convinced that the sump should be removed so that the oil strainer could be cleaned. All such notions were eventually consigned to the history books.

How does thia device change the oil filter ? isnt that part of an oil change

Some small citycars don't have sump plugs. You could also have a seized one; my old astra's one was stuck fast due to lack of oil changes over the years. Plus it's only £11 for the convenience of not having to climb under the car, get dirty, possibly spill oil on drive, quickly syphon off a little if you accidentally overfill etc. then you still have a handy pump for syphoning fuel, emptying pools/spas etc. No brainer for me.

Flow rate is just no good

Dual purpose :stuck_out_tongue:

Er...

Which magic cars are those then? List them.

Really?

Some cars don't have a sump plug

I can recommend one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Speed-Drill-Pump-Oil-Diesel-Water-Fluid-Transfer-Bilge-Wall-Mounted-Rotary-/171255476036?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PondsWaterFeatures_UK&hash=item27df9f2f44

Could I use one of the to feed me cream of chicken soup? Using a spoon is such a faff

Anyone know if this will handle oil and water, mixed and dirty? I want something that can pump out the crud that collects in the bilge of a boat.

amazing for stealing fuel

Surely this would be best used for replacing steering fluid, rather than a dodgy oil change.

it most likely means that where garages have large oil drums or barrels they can simply pump the oil from the big drum into the engine. I can not see how this would hose would find its way down to the bottom of the engine and suck the oil out.

Cherrs

One you do on all fours the other standing up, why make it hard on yourself.

Just my opinion. I wouldn't risk using this for car oil changes. It's almost guaranteed to leave sludge and other heavy partials in the system as these very quickly get pulled down by gravity when the engine is switched off.

I guess some people using these will also save time by not changing the oil, air and fuel filters as they can be more trouble than undoing the oil drain plug.

Having said that, this is a good price for a pump with a 3 year warranty and probably fine for decanting clean diesel and heating oil etc.

Does anyone know how loud they are when operating?

Err, what am I missing here? :neutral_face:.. take the sump plug out, and let the oil drain out normally, why the hell are you lot all using pumps to remove engine oil??? :confused:

Heat added!!

Hmm. Wonder if I should ditch my pela pump and get one of these...

just beware you will need to repair the battery clips there awful and fall apart. decent set on amazon for a quid or 2

i noticed that about the oil. i have a similar one and once the oils warmed does it in about 5 mins

might be worth checking with someone who buys one first lol

good idea but no good for oil change.... 0.2 L/min flow. average engine takes 4.5l... 22mins to empty if it works...

good price, I use one of these ,the engine needs to be hot before it will work well.

I do an interim change when i see the oil getting loaded with the soot from the exhaust gas ( EGR ) .

Basically same looking as one I've been waiting for stock at Amazon. Have to get this thanks posterposter, saves some time.

Been looking for one of these. Thanks

Will be getting one. Last change was at garage and I helped remove the engine undertray and it still took us both an hour to do my freelander.
Will still do a "proper" change again so any sludge at the bottom of the sump is removed fully along with checking the sump plug for chaff.