I've just published a blog post on why I don't like these alarms.

https://www.pentestpartners.com/blog/alarm-systems-alarmingly-insecure-oh-the-irony/

The short of it - easy to jam, easy to replay disarm signals, you can sniff the PIN over-the-air if you use a remote keypad, you can brute-force the PIN as well. I reported these issues to Yale 4 years ago.

Picked mine up yesterday and installed fine, great bit of kit for the money

Can you turn the sound dowon/off on the control panel?

there is always one clever one, ,,,,,,, idiot !!!

Got from the new Bromsgrove branch who were offering 10% off with a voucher!

I dont have a landline - Will there be any way for this to be linked to my mobile instead?

I've been using this model for over 3 years now and its been excellent throughout. The battery life is as the instructions advise and are easily changed when the tim
e comes. It's OK to pay through the noise for a 'monitored' system but all they do is ring you to let you know the alarm has been activated! This will call you too but you don't pay through the nose for the monitoring! At the end of the day it'sa basic alarm BUT its also deterrant for a fraction of the cost for a wired system. I definitely recommend it!

I know the one I got came with a big sticker to stick in the window to advertise the fact your house had a "monitored" alarm. I worked for BT/Openreach for 6 years so I'm well clued up on fixed line telecommunications, I don't claim to be, nor am I an expert on alarms. I said earlier in thread I had a cheapo BT home monitor system which has done it's job for 7 or so years. I'm not a burglar, but I know from jobs I've been to the first thing alot of criminals do before entering a premises is cut the phone line. How many alarms go off and people don't bat an eyelid?

Easily hackable by someone with their head screwed on and is semi technical.

Yes you need to connect to the phone socket as it has a feature that will enable the alarm setup to ring a preprogrammed number, you don't need to use the telephone line but its a nice extra

These things are easy to set up but sometimes don't fire for some reason and also changing batteries is a pain in the ass.

But for these small gripes its better than ripping out floors and laying cables.

If someone wants to rob your house having an alarm makes no difference at all.

This is a steal...

Great thanks needed a replacement for my old yale system.

Can u put more than one LIVE siren with the yale products.,

So how does the burglar know that a phone line is installed into an alarm?

Cutting the phone line doesn't stop the loud noise when he breaks in either.

It makes me laugh that people are saying that a professional system is better than this. No ****. But this is better than NOT having an alarm.

So many experts on this thread.

I'm hoping this is a typo:

'Total Product Weight 4100 kg'

I had one, it suffered from interference from the nearby ambulance & fire stations', radio systems! does WiFi do that as well?

Expert opinion on the thread is saying that a professionally fitted wired system costing thousands of pounds will be better than something you can fit yourself in minutes for £130.
Where would we be without experts?

To those who say "these systems are useless and get a professionally installed system"... rubbish."Professionally installed" systems are no better than these unless like someone previously mentioned, it is a monitored system. The only "professional" aspect is mounting all the necessary bits to the walls and connecting it up properly. If you have the equipment (ie. drill) and basic DIY skills, and know how to follow instructions, then the same as the professionally installed ones for 5x the price. Don't forget to think about where you want to place the sensors for maximum/effective coverage.

Will a burglar really go to that much trouble to block a call etc etc if he can try next door which is alarm free ? I'd like to think not.

Just to add with none redcare or equivalent alarm it's very easy for someone to stop them dialling out prior to a break in.

I bought a BT Home monitor from the BT shop over 7 years ago. It's a wireless based system and it was £80 (on offer) when I bought it. It had an optional subscription where alarm would phone BT then BT send you an SMS or email. I got rid of the sub and the alarm just rings my phone if triggered.
£80 with next to no maintenance or problems (beside the odd battery change) has been money to me well spent.
My dads after a wireless system so I'll show him this. Hot

The batteries aren't expensive and what will interfere. I have a house full of wireless stuff and never have any problems.

that's quite alarming

Don't bother with wireless alarms, the batteries they use on remote sensors and expensive to replace and they are usually not very reliable as they are wireless and subject to interference.
It's not difficult to install a wired system. The main difficulty is routing the wires. If you can do this, then you can easily install a good reilable system for much less than the cost of the wireless alarm.
However, if you want an alarm to reduce your insurance, then (as others have said) it needs to be 'professionally' installed and maintained.

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These work well, do not seem to give any false alarms. As someone else said if you add the wireless keypad it makes it more secure. A pro thief could bypass it but if they are going to go that far they are probably going to get in anyway...

When our next door neighbour got burgled I wanted something that improved visually the security of my house. Police advice was that even dummy boxes make burgers think twice about entering a property and therefore look for easier targets. As our neighbour had been burgled whilst asleep upstairs I wanted something that would tell me if someone was in my house. A dummy box doesn't do that. And I didnt want to spend £600 quoted to me for a wired alarm. So I looked at dummy alarms. Firstly the imports of eBay which look great value but I did worry about false alarms. Therefore narrowed it down to this Yale and a friedland response init. Both around £160- 180 at the time I bought the response as it had a higher frequency and therefore less chance of interference.

There was a lot of don't by wireless posts to read but now 6 months in and installed working 2 hours I can say it's the best choice I made. Not 1 false alarm so far and yet goes off if I accidentally forget to turn it off and walk into certain pir's.

I think my point is yes a wired alarm probably is better quality and lasts longer, but buying a decent well know branded wireless alarm is in my experiance just as sufficient.


don't hesitate to buy one because of the wired alarms boys. If this is suitable for what you want it will do what it says on the box!
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I have been using the Friedland wireless system for about 3 years, and it has been perfect. The only thing is you need to keep an eye on the battery level on the sensors, otherwise a very reliable system. Personally I would not declare any alarm system to my insurance company, the discount is only small and it gives them another opportunity not to pay out if you forget not to the arm the system when you go out.

go wired !!!

ditto. I purchased a couple of keyfobs and extra sensors. all really cheap. and it's a fully monitored system. can't go wrong.

My advice is not to bother with these types of alarm as they are basically cheap rubbish. Buy a professionally fitted alarm system from a company who know what they are doing and are insurance approved. This will give you discount on your insurance usually and also will give you far less problems with your system and should the system go wrong you have a professional to go back to. These types of alarm really give alarm systems a bad name as they are poorly made and not maintained so eventually will fail and just go off all of the time or not at all when you need it the most.

Got this on my garage with the panel in the house so it has 0 entry time. Also fitted an extra alarm inside the garage which makes your ears bleed in such a small area :smirk: use that idea at your own risk.

It is an ESP Infinite alarm. Don't even know if the company is still going.

Great price for this. I have it installed centrally in my house under the stairs where there is a phone point and plug socket. I then have keypads which I have by the front and back doors. Compatible with the older kit, so if you already have a yale system should all still work. My alarms covers the rooms downstairs, plus my shed and outhouse.

Do you need to plug the control panel into a socket?

I do not have a socket anywhere near my front door.

A agree with cbrpaul. Wired is always going to be the best when tagged with good equipment. Enforcer is the best wireless kit i have seen though and we use it at work with very few problems.

be careful. look at the range distance. these sensors have to be in within certain distances of the cpanel to work.

I have had this installed for almost 2 years now and is great, I also use the remote fob Your text here

Each to their own, I Installed the baby brother version (HSA6200) of this 2 years ago and for ease of install (less than 2 hours) and simplicity in day to day use I've found it great, I'm now buying this set to add the house zoning capability and dial out notification. Its definitely not a £500 pro installed system but in my eyes it does what it says on the Box.

Had another brand of wireless alarm installed over 6 years ago and can only describe it as almost faultless. Only ever had about three false alarms, down to a door sensor that was briefly playing up. Only other issue is having to change batteries every couple of years. Apart from that it's been great.

can you add additional sensors, PIRS etc on to this or are you stuck eith what comes with it?

I purchased this last year when it was about £100 as a screwfix deal, you are tied to where u can place the main panel, as most folks wont have a phone socket/ power supply close to the main entrance

However buying a wireless keypad sorts this out and makes the system pretty much silent on entering, making it difficult for intruders to find the main pad

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Yale-Locks-HSA6080-Alarm-Accessory/dp/B002U0NFS2

I think I got mine for around £18 from another supplier online

Yes its a plug in transformer that connects to the control panel.
http://www.free-instruction-manuals.com/pdf/pa_487280.pdf

Great thanks

Great system easy to install

Yale have brought out new design

Just for info this is the old model. New one out is about £70 more.

Any voucher codes?

When I was looking at wireless alarms this was close to being my choice! At the time it was £160 and that was a great price. This is a steal (get it :wink: ). Hot