Cold...So you go to the tip at your expense and time and try to find one, if lucky you then need to go and have it filled somewhere at what cost? Homebase quoted me £34.95 this week for a refill and all my local suppliers were more expensive than gasdeal but hey you may have fun at the tip Stig....

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I used to be a cylinder filling plant manager for Flogas and can assure you that this is ridiculously cheap. Also for info. it is illegal to get empties at the tip. You can get them from dodgy skip employees, but you run the risk of getting a dodgy cylinder with perished O rings that is well over due for a pressure test. Check cylinder pressure test dates on the cylinder collar. Hot from me.

It makes any different in taste !!using propane and butane gas ?
LPG bottled gas is at cheap price seems to be a good deal

​I have driven lpg duel fuel car in Australia. No dangerous but needs to be running of petrol for once a month to keep it lubricated.

Don't you mean LNG, liquid natural gas? I used to drive both LNG and LPG powered trucks for BOC on their M&S contract and it can be very dangerous if not handled properly and with cryogenic protection gloves as the liquid is very cold and can freeze your hand solid and fall off in a split second.

​This is India and the gas he is carrying is lpg or liquefied petroleum gas not butane or propane sold here. They have battery powered electric scooters now but no gas powered ones . While it is illegal to use these cooking gas cylinders to power vehicles some people still do it using conversion kits . They have CNG or compressed natural gas sold in major cities to power fuel automobiles, taxis and public buses.

We use loads of 47KG propane bottles for our home heating and about 60 a year of the 19Kg cylinders for our hog roast business well worth checking out Gasbottle.net 47KG's only £49.95 delivered and 19Kg £23.95 delivered. Maybe not the quickest quote 5 days delivery but normally deliver within 3 days.

Was checking on this site after buying a bottle locally for £26.00 with bottle returned (ah well, never mind). This seems a very good deal. What worries me is all the negative comments on here from what should be rational and to some extent, educated grown ups. For heavens sake, its a bottle of gas, not a '14 plate Mercedes bought from a main dealer. They are selling the bottles cheaper than others so will be keeping their overheads down to a minimum. Sounds like folks on here were expecting hour by hour updates on how 'their' order is being processed. They may only have one person managing the phone/covering reception etc. who knows. And the guy who turned his bottle away for taking a week to arrive really showed them who's boss ! The gas was in his grasp, yet no, 'Take it back - i'll go and drive to the shops and get my own' !!
I have always enjoyed this site as its saved me money over the years and found some decent bargains, yet its turning into an 'old womans' gossip column ! The world is in turmoil, children are being blown to pieces in Gaza, Christians are being beheaded and crucified by Islamic militants in Iraq and Syria, yet all we have to moan about is that the gas took sooo long to arrive or my regulator don't fit it ! Come on my fellow countrymen, lets take it in our stride, lets not live up to the Aussie 'winging Pom' title. We need to 'man up' and appreciate a good bargain when we see one.

Rant over. Looks like rain this weekend - oh, never mind........

Thanks, but you are commenting on a post that was first posted 5 weeks ago when all the info was correct. Like anything things change and this is why this is now expired.

Unfortunately you should have checked all this before lashing out :smirk:


Most bottled gas suppliers will require an exchange cylinder, especially for the smaller cylinders (19kg+ are free on this site)

Yes, unless you can obtain one elsewhere.


The 12kg tank is for FLT (Fork Lift Truck) only. I have not tried looking for an adaptor to convert this type of fitting to a 'POL' fitting but that may be a solution.

See earlier answer.

HTH

1. Your add states 'inc free delivery and gas bottle' should read 'incl free delivery and exchange gas bottle', although there is a remark about charging for some bottles ie 'Patio' gas further down. With the propane bottles a charge is applicable for all bottles under 19kg with no exchange, hence all comments re getting empties from tips, fleabay, etc.
2. 6kg propane currently out of stock on website, but I agree, prices are good.

coal burns out, its messy, rather expensive and leaves guests hungry when it burns out too quick or dont cook ur food enough.. gas is more modern and with a decent BBQ u get a lava rocks so same flavour as coal.

sold out

Nice to find someone with a sense of humour as apposed to being aggressive all the time. Good luck mate.

Haha, yea with a bit or BBQ sauce it's lovely!

I was actually referring to my camping cooker but think i'll give the BBQ tea a try!

BBQ'd tea that's a new one, does it have an Ausie flavour about it. LOL.

Yes at that the moment they still do sell charcoal bbqs on my planet. However it seems rather excessive to get one and put on just to make a cup of tea.
So, once again......thank you for your invaluable advice.

Do they not sell Charcoal BBQ's on your planet?

Yea I will just take my oven to the campsite with me, excellent advice

The ovens in the kitchen the BBQ is in the garden or the campsite.

If you want to BBQ on Gas, Use the oven!

Popped down the road to my nearest gas supplier - they had the adapter for 9.99 - job done.
Up and running when the weather gets good
Dad gave me some more butane bottles, which I now want to use, but once again different adapter!! flip

Put in your search engine " Amazon gas bottle regulator " go onto their specified site and you will get a menu of several different types to choose from just make sure that you get either an internal or external thread to suite your bottle failing this go to a caravan sales site I'm sure you have one near by.

The normal procedure is if you have not got a cylinder that your first purchase of gas requires a deposit against the cylinder plus the cost of the gas. This deal appears to be a one off designed to get people to by their gas from them and then you would become a future customer. Normal business procedure.
If you have to pay the cylinder deposit you would normally get a receipt so that at any time you wanted to return your cylinder and not buy gas you would get your deposit back, no receipt no return of deposit so those people who got their gas without a deposit will not get anything back if they want to return an empty bottle. Ask any seasoned caravaner some of whom have several cylinders for different gases depending on where they are going all over Europe and also several different reducers and fittings.

I know this has been asked / answered in this thread but I cant find it im sorry! Would on of you kind dealers please help me! My BBQ has a push in regulator, my gas bottle has been delivered and its screw in....!! What do I need and wheres the best deal for it please?!

Many thanks

Ive just spent all my cash on a gas bbq and now have no cash for deposits on tanks and things :confused:

Phoned a local flo gas supplier in my area and he was a right arrogants @*#$ ,

He wanted £30 for the tank etc which they usually do,

Ive tried contacting this company from the thread but no reply in nearly a week, do i need to actually pay for the tank if i have no tank to give them in exchange?

Ive noticed that the 11kilo tank now has ''IMPORTANT (RETURNS) – We can only exchange like for like cylinders! We reserve the right to charge a ‘cylinder hire charge’ if any returned cylinder(s) do not match your new order!''

But the 12kilo tank theres no mention of this?

Any help would be great

Only other option is to try find a used tank on the likes of that i can use to exchange

I should not believe their site to much it says 7kg butane was £16.99 now £16.99 you save £2.99 or is my maths that poor.

All depends on the type you select. The 7Kg butane requires the deposit whereas the 6Kg propane doesn't (although this is out of stock at the moment). It probably means that flogas have an abundance of propane and not so much butane so don't have as many blue bottles.

Yea I thought that was the cheap part of using this company that you didn't have to pay a deposit for the cylinder.

For camping definitely, assuming you're at a campsite most will do a refill I think

I think it means that you are not returning a cylinder. If you select 0 Returns it means that you are effectively buying a cylinder as well as the gas.

Also i'm going camping in August and will be using a Campigaz Camping Chef Stove, does anyone know if the 3.9kg propane gas would be suitable. We will be camping for 12 days. So would it last us that time and would propane be ok?

Can anyone help, when I select the 7kg Butane and select 0 Returns it says it will cost £42.98. Anyone know why?

heat added

Flo Gas deliver the cylinders and they are the ones that leave notes at your door if they were unable to deliver the cylinder on that particular day. When I called the number given to arrange my re-delivery for the next day they told me that they would collect my empty cylinder. I explained that I did not want this to happen as my current cylinder was not empty. At this point they connected me with Alfresco, as this was a question for them, not Flo Gas.

I explained the situation to the lady on the phone and she assured me that the old cylinder would not be taken and she would make a note on her system to ensure the delivery driver got this message. As both my girlfriend and I had to work yesterday they were instructed to leave the cylinder in our back garden. To be clear, our cylinder was a 19kg propane gas used for our domestic cooking etc.

Upon returning from work we found a new cylinder had been attached to our regulator and the old cylinder (still around 1/4 full) had been taken!

I am trying to reach customer services now to find out what they are going to do. But be warned, they will take your old cylinder! There seems to be zero communication between Alfresco and Flo Gas, and you can tell Flo Gas are used to getting calls complaining about Alfresco.

Really not worth the saving compared to our local supplier.

Hi we are looking at getting a propane gas bottle off this seller for our patio heater but the person we got the heater off had a calor gas bottle in it , is there any difference in the connections as this looks like the cap on the pipe that connects to the gas bottle just pushes on ?

All depends on whether you'll be BBQing in colder weather. Butane is good for warm weather but not good under around 10 degrees where propane will work effectively below this temp.

which is best gas for a barbecue?

13kg butane just delivered, took a little time, but heat added for the price!

Yes I said plus delivery so took the time to look for others and have given you 2 other options one being £4.50 with free delivery....

Do you need anything else?

+ £4.95 delivery...

I too bought my BBQ at Tesco and the regulator is clip on, you need to buy one of these regulators http://www.outdoormegastore.co.uk/kampa-propane-gas-regulator.html they are £3.99 plus delivery. You may get them on Ebay also so check prices and also any local camping stores to you like Go Outdoors etc. http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/pennine-leisure-propane-regulator-camping-fuel-p126025

Probably the cheapest with delivery if nowhere is local for you http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PROPANE-GAS-REGULATOR-ANGLED-NOZZLE-37mbar-Camping-propane-/181411117207?pt=UK_Home_Garden_BBQ_s_Accessories_LE&hash=item2a3cf1f897

I have the same, ordered Tesco BBQ and it has clip-on-regulator but propane bottle doesn't. I don't get it... What to do now?

Have to agree, poor comms. It's not that hard to draft a standard email up to all customers each day to advise your item is on the way.

I got home tonight to find a note saying they tried to deliver my regulator and to call the local depot. When I did she told me they were out yesterday too trying to deliver the propane but I had no note yesterday. So if it weren't for the missed regulator delivery I would be maybe sitting here for another week or two wondering when it's due.

I emailed them the other day to ask if they could leave it round the back when attempting delivery, no response.

p.s. mine took 2 weeks to arrive, their comms are not very good. Not a scam, but not the best customer service either.

Damn it - propane arrived for my propane BBQ but the bloody regulator is the wrong one! Im told its a PATIO gas regulator GRRR

It is unfortunate that they have not got back toy ou for such a long time but look through the posts of those thta have received them, it is definitiely not a scam.

ordered 2 x 6kg over 2 weeks ago and no sign of them. none of the email addresses seem to work, maybe it is a scam

Thanks Andy and everyone else. Guess a 6KG is way more than enough to last me a year or perhaps 2 :wink:

An 8.5kg bottle will last for approximately 14 hours on a bbq with 2 burners full on, so 28 hours per burner. So with those figures you can work out your own consumption for your bbq. These figures are from a proper web site not any forum or other type of web site.
You probably won't have them full on anyway so a precise figure is hard to come by just like MPG for a car is hard to calculate for a person due to their driving style, wind, rain and terrain making differences.

That'll be max throughput. Realistically your BBQ will only use a fraction of that. Somewhere around 150 grams per our per burner seems to be round about the average.

My regulator says 1Kg/hour, so I guess if the BBQ is full on constantly it'll last 13 hours.

I'd guess I use 3/4 kg per year on the BBQ, previous 15kg Calor bottle lasted me about 3 years but I don't think it was 100% full when I acquired it :wink:

Obviously will vary according to use and size of BBQ, but it might just give you a rough idea, 6kg is ample IMO if only for BBQ use, but at this price the larger one would be a better buy.

BBQ newbie here:

How long does a 6kg or 11kg gas last for on average (with a medium sized BBQ machine/burner)?

Just wanted to get an idea.

Thanks! :wink:

**** just got a bbq and really want a 6kg propane bottle wonder if any more coming in stock?

Finally got through to Customer Services, extremely friendly and helpful. As mentioned by others, they were very apologetic about the lack of communication and said they had been inundated by orders following the post on HUKD. Bottle and regulator arrived yesterday while we were out; unfortunately, left the wrong regulator (27mm snap-fit instead of a screw-in). A quick call back to Customer Services and, after confirming that I had ordered the correct regulator, they arranged for me to exchange it with a local supplier. Very impressed.

Thanks for all the help regarding regulators. I discovered a Flogas retailer only a mile away & they supplied a regulator at just over £6. Works perfectly. Enquired on replacement bottle prices & they were competitive. They also commented that my 11kg bottle was overkill on a barbecue & it'll be ages before I need a replacement......

Thanks, didn't think they'd get it wrong if shipping them together!

They are the same, the EN 12864 superceded the BS 3016.

Source... http://shop.bsigroup.com/ProductDetail/?pid=000000000030112953

Mine arrived today, was expecting it next week! One question though, the regulator is EN 12864 but the bottle says to use BS:3016. They look similar, are they different standards for the same thing?

Mine arrived yesterday, left at the side of the house as requested on the order. I placed my order last Friday afternoon so I suppose in the scheme of things delivery wasn't too bad.
The only thing that let them down was lack of communication but I suppose the amount of orders they've had to deal with has been overwhelming for them, perhaps they're concentrating on processing orders rather than replying to emails?

Anyway- thanks to the original poster for the deal.

I ordered on a Thursday, hadn't heard anything about delivery by Monday, so I called them.....the lady instantly asked 'did you see the deal on HUKD'......She apologised, but said she was working through a huge backlog of orders.....she then got mine arranged for Wednesday.....arrived on time at a bargain price....

I NOW GIVE UP WITH ALL THESE COMMENTS. GOOD INFO MOSTLY AND I ACCEPT FOLKS HAVE HAD ISSUES BUT ALL I KNOW IS WHEN I NEED A NEW BOTTLE I WILL ORDER IT FROM THESE GUYS.

Yes bottle is full with the gas you choose.

Of course not. That would be asking too much!

So do you get the bottle with gas in it?

Ah, so the company themselves didn't promise speedy delivery, but a customer who rec'd speedy delivery left feedback thus.

Mines also wasn't a straightforward sale, ordered 2 cylinders, one came within a week, and just this morning the 2nd was delivered.

Acceptable under the circumstances for me.

Their customer comments mention "speedy delivery"

The fact that they didn't even bother to make any email contact, answer the phone or respond to any email or telephone messages after a week left me no alternative but to cancel.

I then this afternoon got an email from their customer services apologising for the lack of communication, too late in this instance but the email was very apologetic and I will use this company in future.

Agree , why are peeps moaning. Its a good price and delivered to your door. Some people just gotta moan about everything. If you dont want ,go to calor and pick it up yourselves.

I'm not so bothered by the lack of delivery, but the lack of communication is starting to pee me off. No one on either phone number, no call back from my voicemail message and no response to my emails...

Tried to deliver mine this morning. Turned the delivery driver away.

No good to me over a week after I ordered them. So much for "Speedy Delivery"

No worries .... I was giving the link for the 11kg screw in type as reference to what reflexreact received.

Sorry but I thought your link should have been for the 6kg clip on type, the link you gave was for the 11kg with an internal screw thread on the bottle. Hope thar clears it up.

Just looking at the gasdeal regulators, the one I asked for was the one I linked but it is exactly the same as this from gasdeal (except different colour) http://www.gasdeal.co.uk/product/37-mbar-propane-regulator/ so now I am unsure if the info I have given is right or if they both do the same job. The description for the Kampa says it is. I think it is just the screw / nut that is different but do the same job....enlighten me if I am wrong please mate...

Do you mean the link for the regulator? I bought this yesterday from their store in Liverpool for my 11kg bottle as my BBQ had a snap on regulator but mine is slightly different as it has a large nut instead of the wheel.....now you have got me thinking soldierboy....but it works anyway.

Think you have linked the wrong one mate.

They delivered me a screw top propane cylinder, not a push top. WTF. The delivery man took it away.

Dodgy as hell.

Got mine first thing this morning. They seem to pick up the 0161 number instantly for me - spoke to them a few times this past week.

I ordered through the ebay shop as I had a £10 credit.

Butane or Propane?

Question, with regard to calor gas indoor heaters, can these be used with either butane (blue bottle) or propane (red bottle), assuming that the correct regulator is used of course?
cheers

Just ordered (was waiting for a £10 ebay credit to clear), says dispatched already but expected delivery tail end of next week.

For those still awaiting delv confirmation ; 0845 270 7134 was just ringing out for me with no answer.

PayPal receipt showed the number ; 0161 928 5474, called them couple of days ago and it was answered straight away and they gave me an expected delv date.

After waiting a week for delivery, sending several email and not getting a single reply I have now started a PayPal dispute against this company.

I got one from them. Bit annoyed as the kit wasn't available earlier but has now been reposted, so I got it separately and paid £3 more :disappointed:

Regulator: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/21mm-Regulator-For-13Kg-Butane-Cylinders-/251440244907?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Camping_Accessories&hash=item3a8b01a8ab

Kit: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBQ-Gas-Regulator-Kit-/261509180273?pt=UK_Home_Garden_BBQ_s_Accessories_LE&hash=item3ce3296b71

Right - still not got my order, its been ages.

Communication is poor, theres no ETA or invoice to say when its coming - those who HAVE had their orders, did it just turn up or do you get some notice??

Only just got around to sorting my BBQ out ready for the weekend, the bottle I have has a screw on fitting but my regulator with the BBQ is a snap on so I have bought this for £3.99 http://www.outdoormegastore.co.uk/kampa-propane-gas-regulator.html I collected as not too far away from me but delivery is £4.95 unless you are buying other items to get free delivery.

Well mine is a clip on one, so I've gone and ordered this one then which appears to be a screw one.

http://www.gasdeal.co.uk/product/37-mbar-propane-regulator/

There website clearly states on the description for the 11kg Propane CylinderThe 11kg red propane bottle comes with a standard screw fitting to take a 37Mbar regulator.

Looking at there regulators, you see a picture of said 37mbar regulator, compare that with your existing one.

But how are they suppose to know in advance what type of regulator they will need for the cylinder that is getting delivered if it seems to be a mix getting sent out?

I was one asking what type I will need, if the one I have will work as I'm new to this. Glad most people were polite and answered my question.....

I'm just ordering a new regulator, mine is clip on as well but the patio gas bottles say you need to pay a deposit. Its cheaper to get a new regulator and a bottle of butane.

Yes, but folks seem impatient and want to know NOW which regulator they need.

They are asking which regulator they need presuming others will know, despite the fact that there have been quite a number of posts describing the different regulators and there compatibility.

If they are THAT inexperienced with regulators / cylinders they should order a new one with the new cylinder IMHO.

If any are in any doubt about which regulator to use, why not order one when ordering a cylinder...?

That's not correct. I ordered 6Kg bottle of propane from here and the bottle delivered requires a 27mm clip-on regulator.

I think what type you get will depend on the local company that delivers your gas. From what I can tell, gasdeal has accounts with around 40 or so flogas resellers throughout the UK and what they do is order from your nearest one on your behalf.

A volume of Butane will render more heat than the same volume of Propane. The pressure is immaterial. QED.
Buy it, or forget it.

Just buy it . Its the cheapest out there. Wait and weep.

None. Its all propane .Regulator is clip on for patio gas 27mm and screw in for ordinary popane. Both are propane.

What difference is there with the Patio gas and Propane?

I'm a bit confused about clips, regulators and all. Got given a gas BBQ as a present so never bought gas before.

Will the 6Kg or 11Kg Propane gas cylinder work with my BBQ or do I need to buy a different clip for it? Below is a link to the clip (or whatever the correct name is).

http://i58.tinypic.com/302tj07.jpg

Butane definitely burns hotter than propane and that is why you have a regulator difference the propane regulator allows more gas to compensate for propane's lower burning heat, that is what happened when we changed to natural gas just a larger or small jet dependant on the gas you are using in a domestic cooker or hob. As you can't change the jets in a BBQ then it is performed by the regulator, hence the name.

Not quite correct, the heat output from a burner is dependent on the wobbe number, British Gas had to increase the pressure when they converted to Natural Gas to maintain the wobbe number the same

Just ordered :smiley:

Forgot to say they dont need an empty.

Mine arrived today after an email to say delivery was due tuesday. I was out and left a note for them to leave in the garden. which they did. Brilliant price and great delivery. It is a 21mm clip on for the butane and the calor one fits perfectly. Thoroughly recommend these folk, order now before deal expires..Will defo use these guys in future even if the price goes up a tad.

You do not need to return an empty; gas bottles are full & delivery is free ! - Come on in the water is warm.

Got my 13kg butane today (exactly as customer services said); nice new bottle; fits calor clip on regulator fine; ordered another straight away in case deal expires.

Thanks OP

Ordered mine last week- heard nothing from them, not answering my emails either....!!!

Got mine today, brilliant deal!

Still waiting for mine ordered last Monday. Was told would be delivered Thursday or Friday, then Monday and now Tuesday.

It is not allowed to leave gas bottles at tips now so no chance of picking one up there. Flo Gas are a big company and should have stockists everywhere. Propane regulators are interchangeable between all makes. Be careful when buying butane, as there are 2 sized regulators - 20ml and 21 ml Calor use 21 ml, flo gas use 20 ml.
Propane does not freeze and burns at a higher temperature but in reality any is fine for a bog standard summer bbq

As Butane has a higher calorific value than Propane it scientifically should burn hotter.

Opinions are split though, confusing the issue is the fact that Butane is heavier, so equal sized cylinders sees less Butane than Propane BUT with Propane working under a higher pressure, it won't last as long as Butane.

Propane can work at temperatures reaching -40 degrees, whereas Butane stops working at around 3 degrees.

I ordered the wrong gas,sent them an email asking if it was possible to swap to the green patio gas. A lady phoned me back the same day and gave me a full refund. She was really helpful, but did say that since the website was posted on HOTUKDEALS they've had over 700 orders and are working all hours to get them processed.

Email them and see what they say...I am sure you have not been had but maybe the deal has just gone a bit too hot for them and they can't handle the response quickly. I have had mine and others here have received theirs so I think you will get yours.....I certainly hope you do without too much hassle.

Same here. I am sure they are legit, but its no good giving no updates. Even if they are busy. Poor service.

Ordered mine a week ago, no comms,no gas .... I wonder if I've been had??

Is there any difference in using propane and butane for a BBQ?

Gave some heat even though it doesn't apply to NI.

Delivery depends on when they're in your area I presume.

For the record, motor-homes/caravans use a 37mb or something regulator.

That means when you find you have a 25bar and a 1-4bar regulator and decide it must be the smaller one you need...
It's not!

Yes, when I'd turned it right down to 1 bar, so it didn't set fire to the stuff next to the stove, it cooked pretty quickly; but after turning the fridge into a freezer, it hasn't worked since on gas or electric :disappointed:.

Yes mine arrived today. I need to get the regulator that Darzen mentions.

Anyone had a delivery today ?

I've got a brand new bbq waiting to be fired up

Wonder if his helmet is fire proof lol :smiley:

Darren.

If anyone needs a screw in regulator for propane, go outdoors do them.

http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/pennine-leisure-propane-regulator-camping-fuel-p126025

I ordered on Tuesday but nothing here yet, hoping to get it for tomorrow afternoon, so might have to look at sourcing one locally now :disappointed:

My new FloGas 13kg and my previous Calor 15kg are both Butane and use the same 21mm blue regulator.

Check it's the same pressure. Butane usually runs at a lower pressure so the butane regulator might not have the required throughput for propane.
My butane regulator is 28mbar and propane one is 37mbar

You mean outdoor oven?

Mines fit fine, 21mm Blue regulator, previously used with 15kg Calor Butane and new Flogas 13kg fits fine.

My bottle came today. I ordered the 6Kg propane and it needs a 27mm clip-on regulator.

Have ordered this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181157116222

link takes me to some weird server9 page.
Deal expired?

I've had a gas barbecue sitting lifeless for ages because of the extortionate £35 deposit required on bottles.

So heat on this deal.

I ordered 11kg earlier today via PayPal (before the website crashed) & have all the email confirmations so will let you know how it turns out.

Thanks for the replies. I ordered Monday morning FYI.

Send them an e-mail, no reply. Phones just ring off or go to voice mail. I see they've already taken my money so I am not sure how I can go about canceling. I'll give them until tomorrow and then I'll send another e-mail requesting cancellation as it's obvious they're not going to deliver before Sat.

I guess you get what you pay for.

Mine arrived this morning. The delivery guy asked if I had any empties by wasn't bothered when I said "no".

thanks....need some gas too.

Greater Manchester operate re-use centres for people that have items that could be re-cycled by other people, it appears that all councils have different rules on this according to their budget I guess, but health and safety is the first priority I assume because they would not have the facility to check all items so basically it would be a no no.

Fail. Must be different rules for different councils then.

Cold. Free gas bottles at local tip. Also there not Calor so no where will fill them.

The bottle you return is never filled and given back to you.

You are given one which has been tested safe and refilled previously.

The one you hand back goes back for refill, but prior to refill it is tested to ensure it is safe to put back into circulation, if not it is recycled.

I know i have already apologised to another posting....

Great find thank you

Ordered 9am yesterday. Not had a call from them or anything.

I need the tank for Saturday. I assume they'll call me to arrange delivery - if they don't do this and cannot get it to me in time, I'll cancel.

Just company name, address and prices would be enough so anyone local can use them if they are cheaper, that's what the site is all about after all.

They don't have a site but i can give you their number if you wish to call them.

Link or details with prices etc?

Never new the law changed, and yes, there is no rummaging around they have them all stacked in one place, also you don't get it refilled you change it for it full new bottle, also depends how much you pay for gas locally and how much you need. I know my local gas bottle supplier does refills cheaper than gas deal.

At my local tip and I assume all / most it is no longer allowed to take anything from the tip, against health & safety laws. You used to be able to buy things for low cost but it is no longer allowed.

Besides that, do you seriously think it is better and cheaper to go to your local tip, rummage around to try and find a gas bottle then go and get it refilled somewhere (if gas bottle is safe / useable) than to go online and buy this deal? Serious question?

Never heard of that, must be different in certain areas then.

Only by the fact that at least in my area it is illegal to remove any article from the tip, and the contractors are not allowed to let anybody remove anything.

How are they illegal?

You are correct only a fool would go to Homebase for a refill after finding out the price. Maybe the bigger fool is he that gets illegal gas bottles from a local tip that could be potentially dangerous, especially when companies like Gasdeal give them for free and deliver for free to your home or workplace with your refill....

Taken from the manual for my BBQ:

https://www.outbackdirect.co.uk/manual/2009/Omega%20150%20-%20250%20Gas.pdf

Never been unsucessful at finding one yet. Only a fool would go to homebase for a refill.

You got it totally the wrong way round, use butane in the winter and you'll struggle to get a decent supply out of the bottle as it freezes at a higher temperature than propane. Use propane all year round and you'll have no problem.

Just called and they are looking at around 5 days to deliver, apparently the last few days have been busy!

Thanks OP great price, delivered too ! <3

Ah, I see clip on is the 'patio gas'. Think I'm OK.....


EDIT: But the patio gas is more expensive and requires a bottle deposit! Probably better just changing the regulator with this one?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBQ-Gas-Regulator-Kit-/251550097133?pt=UK_Home_Garden_BBQ_s_Accessories_LE&hash=item3a918ddeed

Never used a gas BBQ before but we seem to have one courtesy of my housemate. Can someone take a look at this regulator for me please and confirm if its the red bottles? It says propane but it doesn't look screw on?

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Very good, I'm aware how to get the prices for this deal, its even in the OP's opening description.

My comment re £22 refill was to brendanhickey (hence the reason I quoted him/her) as the website link he/she posted doesnt state prices for the cheaper refill cost they claim is available to them, IF they state the bottle size and type of gas it may help others in the Manchester area.


Looks like you've assumed I've asked for prices for this thread, and taken the opportunity (you do have previous of this towards me :wink: ) of having a sly dig.

Thanks beer drinker im just wondering as the calor 13kg bottle refill is only 27 quid and uses the standard clip on regulators where as these flogas ones are the screw regulators apart from the green patio one which is 50 quid with gas.

So the initial saving of the bottle is v good but price in a regulator and i think usual refil price on the flo gas ones are 22 quid = £2/L compared with calor 28.50 = £2.20/L Which is only a saving of 20p and at least with the calor when it runs out you can nip local to swap it out. BUT if you could swap these flogas ones for the calor then it would be a v good offer ??

Looks very cheap!

Can you exchange these for equivalent calor gas bottles at the local garages etc or can you only swap for these bottles ie gasdeal or ebay ??

It's a NEW site with NO feedback!!! Beware

jusdging by these prices, you would think the canisters were empty! prices on the FloGas website are more expensive then this AND you have to pay a hefty non-returns charge on top

What size and type of gas is £22 for refill as there are no prices on there website ?

Doesn't help me, but may help others in Manchester area.

this is great, im in the same boat, looking for a canister, that being barrier to entry, its £50 minimum spend most places including a fill just for a small bbq.

HOT

Unless you have a camper van ( panel type ) then most if not all mobile homes, caravans and motor homes have room for one or more 13kg bottles and I'm sure your garden will be big enough for one 13kg bottle, so 2X 13kg even bigger flaming hot saving. Admittedly a bigger outlay at first but will last twice as long.

Hot things :wink:

OMG how confusing are all these damned bottles and regulators.

My old gas BBQ had a regulator on it and I use a big bottle (25kg I think - I'll take a look later tonight when I get home). This has cost me more and more each refill over the past 7 or so years to the point it's about £35 from Morrisons.

My new BBQ came with a regulator that didn't fit my bottle, so I simply swapped regulators on the pipe and it works.

So I have 2 regulators and am hoping I can make use of this Company and their cheaper prices (and perhaps not have such a massive heavy gas bottle too).

Is there some way of telling from the Regulator itself what type it is - are they hard stamped with info on them?

Hang on I'm pretty sure my bottle is blue so does that mean is Butane?

I been using flogas for about 17 yrs. and no problems I use it in my
Motorhome an there is no problem with ferries as long as you shut valve off while sailing on short or long crossings I can also get them refilled while I am in Portugal

My maths is fine but your logic sucks :confused:

Cheers Beerdrinker but I can fight my own fights with Soldierboy. One for the van 1 for the garden. Yes its beyond logic that I am a genius. How's ya maths now?

A given quantity of butane will burn hotter than propane propane regulators run at slightly higher pressure to compensate for lower
calorific value of propane.
So as to give approximately same heat output as butane by burning more gas

Thanks

Perhaps they have more than one use, e.g. one for a bbq and one for a motorhome. Perhaps they got one for a friend. Perhaps they are for storing in a height-limited space where 2 x 6kg would fit but 1 x 13kg wouldn't. Or ain't your reasoning that good? :man:

Ordered 2 6kg propane, that's a flaming bargain :laughing:

from embassy gas in failworth http://www.embassygas.co.uk/Welcome.html

i have no gas in my house and like to cook on gas so we bought a cooker to use propane bottles and we go through 2 a year ..and locally there are £34 a bottle so this hot from me i will be ordering :smiley:

At least he remembered to put his helmet on. :stuck_out_tongue:

lol yea but not everyone uses it for a BBQ people use it in caravans and you can go through 13kg in a few weeks

Hi, could anyone advise if this is suitable for a patio heater?

Thanks

Should I be ordering Propane or Butane to use with my gas BBQ ? Thinking of getting a Weber one so keen to ensure it fits and is the right type.

The main reason for using propane for barbecues is because if left outside for a prolonged period, propane does not freeze.

The statement below is untrue. All country pubs without mains gas use propane.
"Just to note, you wouldn't use propane in a house heater/fire, as it gives off fumes that can kill. Think BBQ's can use either, with the correct regulator."

I don't want to inflame the thread but I get my gas for£15 for 13Kgm and just exchange empty bottle for full bottle. Deposit paid on bottle at first purchase.

Just ordered four bottles :-)

butane must be no more than 3p/kwh wholesale,a 13kg has roughly 120 kwh' worth of use,that means the gas costs at most £3.60 and they charge people £34 to refill,no wonder these russians are billionaires

I've just realised, no where on the site does it mention that the gas tank is free. In fact, some comments are stating a "no return charge"?

Has anyone actually USED these guys before?

Need.BBQ weather first. So far just one day that suited

**** I paid £35 last week for the gas and another £35 deposit. ****

What is the delivery speed like for this company? Any idea if you can pick a delivery day as I want to order now but no one is going to be home all day till Friday.

Ordered 11kg propane, regulator and hose. Hopefully it will turn up by the weekend with all this additional demand.

Great price, just ordered a 6Kg cylinder.

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I use a portable butane heater,

It cost me one off cost £25 for cylinder and then £22 per refill.

This deal you get a few cylinder but the refil is £22.90 so depending on how many refills you go through over the years it will be a little bit dearer.

Most touring caravans take 6kg propane cylinders ( if it has a screw on fit to bottle ). Calor and Flo-gas take the same propane fitting - so you can use either.

If its a clip on fitting then it has been using butane - my old caravan was like this .But be aware there are 3 different clip sizes - so use the same type of cylinder as already there if you are not sure of the equivalent from another supplier.

Might sound a daft question, but what size bottle will fit my new 2014 Swift Challenger 570 SE. I know it can only take Propane, is this a normal propane fitting that I screw on with a spanner? Cheers

Thanks for this :smiley:

Hot deal from me.

Great deal, thanks for posting

Thanks

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A note again that they have the same prices on their ebay shop, if their website is down.

And from that page:

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To awoid overfilling be most careful !

Remember always refill only total empty bottles !

Gas bottles and cylinders must always be filled ONLY up to 80 %

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There's a reason they say 'be most careful' - because, very, very bad things could happen if you're not!

On the savings calculations posted above - that also doesn't take account of any fuel used to go to an LPG station as the price given is delivered.

I ran out of gas fr BBQ today so timing is excellent.

Does anybody know if these guys will take a Calor Gas bottle in exchange?

Cold, not a proper bbq, may as well use the oven.

Didn't want any right now, but was going to go and have a nosey around ready for when I did and now can't get on there as HUKD members have killed it :wink:

Great deal heat added

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Not sure what the KG limit is, but we could fit two 11KG bottles ( we use two 6KG bottles) - so you can definately carry two.
However - the first thing they check is that the bottle(s) are secure and turned off.

Calor Butane locally to me is around £35 for 15kg refill with an empty.

This deal is £22.98 for 13kg, no mention of having to allready have an empty...

sites just died?

I thought it was the other way round ?
Butane doesn't gas below 2C - hence why most motorhomes/caravans use Propane (-15C).

fyi propane burns hotter

Unless you are exchanging a bottle the price is double. Try buying a bottle and you have options to select.

Yes will last longer but will give out 12% less heat

Thanks, good find

As a business we used 19kg Calorgas propane for almost 35 years but with the prices going through the roof we tried flogas 3 years ago and haven't looked back since. I have to order 2-3 days before I need it but I'm paying less than half now of what I was paying for Calor 3 years ago. Gas is the same, no issues with bottles, they pick the old and drop new... simple!

I didn't know there are gas powered scooters.

Great

I switched from Butane in a portable gas heater to Propane and it seems to last longer (reason I switched was because the bottle was kept in the garage and the heater was only used in extreme winter, so propane seemed the better to use)

Scorchio!!!:smile:

Because you've been doing it for a while, doesn't mean it's safe.

I would advise anyone against this. Not worth the risk

http://www.calor.co.uk/news/?p=45

sorry... was free postage when I bought mine @£19..they went up in price ...everyone after a saving ...and I dont just use mine for BBQ...patio heater and ... I use it indoors with a calor Heater ...plus I get mine where I fill up my car with LPG @63.9p a ltr...so savings all round

Butane will provide about 12% more energy than propane so you may get more volume with propane but will use more gas with it
So would be no saving with propane

+ £13.90 postage.

£44 approx outlay to save £9 at best per fill.

For the average BBQ user then refilling once a year it'll take 5 years to pay for itself, and if your a frequent user and fill say twice yearly, it''ll take approx 3 years to pay for itself, and then you'll see the £9 refill saving...?

I've used 1 of these for a while now... filled the same bottle for BBQ's ...indoor calor gas heater ... and its as safe as filling my LPG converted car up

link ? I phone them mate

That would be illegal and dangerous

adapter from ebay >>>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LPG-Autogas-ADAPTOR-Bayonet-VALVE-INSIDE-for-refill-Camper-Gas-Bottle-in-UK-/181348083477?pt=UK_Campervan_Caravan_Accessories&hash=item2a39302715

adapter from Ebay @£30...save £7-£9 per fill ...paid for itself in no time

Probably talking about gaslow or gas it. The bottles are about £140-150 and the kit to fill it is another £40 or so. Would need to use a lot of gas to justify that...

Link ?

Please note that they do charge a deposit for some bottles ie 'Patio' gas but the Propane I have received and Butane for a friend was FREE Gas bottle & Delivery. If anyone finds any cheaper let us know.

cold...get an adapter so you can fill up at any LPG garage ... i can get a 13KG bottle filled up for £16 !!!

Calor Butane use a 21mm regulator same as Flogas, must be standard ?

Ordered 2 nicely timed OP.

13kg Flogas - £22.98 = £1.77/kg

15kg Calor - £35.00 = £2.33/kg

I would assume like you that it would fit but no expert so unless someone confirms send them an email or call them tomorrow.

Just checked again and link takes me to the gasdeal.co.uk website, earlier it took me to flogas.co.uk ?

Heat added, I'm £35 for 15kg Calor butane.

Presumably my current regulator on my BBQ that fits Calor Butane bottles will fit these flogas ones....?

yup, your right.....confused of Suffolk...teach me to open my mouth without checking!

Hi am new to this got my first BBQ, can anyone help ?

What's the difference between the green patio BBQ bottle and the standard propane one? There is big difference in cost. Can I use the standard cheaper propane on my BBQ , my BBQ has a 27mm snap on compact propane regulator 37mbar pressure

If you read the title it states Propane and Butane gas....the very first post I purposely added that some bottles ie 'Patio' gas that they charge a deposit.

This deal may not suit you so scrappy hunting it is then.

These don't include the gas inside they are just tanks?

Prices don't come up the same as OP's for me

13kg Butane £30.98 + £6.00 Cylinder non-returns charge.

11kg propane £25.73 + £30.62 Cylinder non-returns charge.

Beacuse a new patio gas cylinder is £52.97 from them for 11kg. If you get any Calor gas bottle, big, small, propane or butane, no matter what state it is in, from a scrap yard , you can then exchange it for 13kg of patio gas for about £35 maybe cheaper from most places that sell gas.

It's a lot cheaper.

I think the idea of getting one from a scrappies or similar would be simply to avoid the deposit and would be immediately taking it to the shop for exchange. As you say though, there's no point as there's no deposit on these bottles.

This.

Also worth noting that Butane is slightly heavier than propane, so when using Propane on a gas appliance it will last slightly longer, as you get more gas in your cylinder.

Scrap metal dealers often have empty gas bottles that they will give away for free. Costs too much to process them so they end up lying around.

Opposite butane burns hotter ie more energy for same amount of gas but propane better in winter boiling point much lower
If you try and use butane in winter no gas comes out cylinder at near or below freezing
preventing you having BBQ on freezing day lol

cracking deal and company... I ordered a couple of 19kg propane cylinders from the company last week and they were delivered by flogas 2 days later. I will definitely be using them again!!

A 47kg cylinder for a barbecue , you must really like outdoor cooking. ;-)
That would last forever in the UK.

Its disturbing to know that the whole of northern Scotland is not part of the UK mainland according to this company.

Cold.

Can I use this one for a BBQ or does it have to be a patio cylinder?
I'm new to all this BBQ'ing!

we order 47kg's direct from Flogas , these guys are £2 cheaper , not a great saving

Does the cylinder you give back need to be the same brand?

No deposit needed.
They do like to collect the old one if you're getting a new one, but aren't fussed = at this price I'm certainly happy to help them out.
(I didn't bring my last one with me because it was empty, for example.)

Calor gas are very expensive because they are THE name in the business.

So, I don't see it as a big issue not getting it refilled, providing you're ok to order a few days in advance.
At some point I'll get a big'un, which is a good bit cheaper, but at the moment I've got free electric included (I'm living in a motorhome while contracting), so just use that and haven't touched the gas for ages.

Don't want to be inflammatory (see what I did there!) but can I point out that there are about 350,000 caravans on our roads that usually carry a gas bottle similar to those sold.
In addition, every ferry company will transport a caravan or motorhome on their ships as will the Eurotunnel.
All in all your comments are so much hot air. (which is a gas)

stupidly cheap, surely you need to pay a deposit on it?

calor charge £20 for 6kg along with £40 for the deposit and delivery

hot for me

Anyone with a new bbq will need the patio gas bottle as its for the new push on propane regulators 28mm. You can use the propane bottle to but will involve using the screw regulator and a spanner which is hassle for some so thats why the new version was designed. Also if u do have a butane bottle they can also be used for bbq as u just need to change the regulator to a butane one. The patio gas with no return of an empty bottle is coming up £52. which is pretty similar to prices from one store to another.

On the National Coverage tab underneath "Welcome to Gas Deal Direct – The UK’s Cheapest Gas Supplier"

Gas Deal Direct is a National cylinder gas supplier servicing the UK mainland, including southern Scotland and Wales. With over 50 depots strategically placed throughout the Country, you can be sure of a reliable, regular supply for all your cheap cylinder gas needs. If you are not sure of the right size of gas bottle for your appliance, call us now and one of our friendly staff will help guide you through the different options to ensure you get the exact size gas bottle for your requirements.

It doesn't say they don't deliver but I think it's clear NI is not included.

Or in Eurotunnel...is a KG limit but no problem with one

You can swap these rather than getting them refilled at most Flogas filling plants. There are 40+ places around the country. Also most Flogas dealers will do the same. Make sure you get a decent bottle back as there are thousands that need scrapping.

Of course you can ferry them

I used to be a cylinder filling plant manager for Flogas and can assure you that this is ridiculously cheap. Also for info. it is illegal to get empties at the tip. You can get them from dodgy skip employees, but you run the risk of getting a dodgy cylinder with perished O rings that is well over due for a pressure test. Check cylinder pressure test dates on the cylinder collar. Hot from me.

You need a propane fly gas screw regulator, this from calor gas is diferent screw...

I got Calor Regulator and Campingaz stove, can i use it with this 6kg propane?

Oops, oh yea - changed their website since I last looked - at which point I bought on ebay just for ease (much as I hate ebay for their monopoly and so on, I'm part of the problem!)

This place does them at the same prices on ebay for the same gas, by the way, I've been using them a while and happy with the service etc.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/alfresco-gas-direct/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

Its the other way round. Butane burns hotter but does not work well in low temperatures.

Most bbq use patio gas which is propane. Changed my regulator to a butane one and use a 15kg bottle for £33 lasts all year. Yes this gas is very cheap but try finding a refill on a Sunday afternoon when your doing a family bbq

You say say cheap.. Can't believe how much propane has gone up over the past 10 years. I used to sell them for a DIY store and the 11k propanes were only £12!

Seems like a very good deal to me....need some for my camper...ordered thanks OP

When I started camping I looked on Gumtree and local forums and picked an empty bottle up for a fiver to save on the extortionate deposit charge for first timers.

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Also I think its illegal now to tip any gas bottles, and most tips I know wont let you wander about them and taking items from them is theft as its council property once it hits the dustbin truck or tip ground.

I know the gas isnt being sold by Flogas but the cylinders are Flogas branded. After noodling around I found a review from customers of Flogas. Largely they aren't to do with cylinders but it kind of makes me feel uneasy using them now.

https://www.trustpilot.co.uk/review/www.flogas.co.uk

I would email them and ask, they replied me to me the same day...obviously not likely today but tomorrow they should get back to you.

Cheeky deeky....:smirk:

Where would you go to get them refilled?

the site looks a bit dodgy to me, has anyone ordered from them before?

BBQ gas deal, always a hot deal :-)

Cold :laughing:

Joking. I pay £30 just for a 13KG refill with my own bottle. Great deal.