Experts are saying that this whisky is worth double what Lidle are asking.
This fine single malt has lain untouched in oak casks for 33 years to produce an outstanding whisky with a soft, sweet taste and a subtle kick of spice and citrus in its long, lingering finish
40% vol.
70cl
Top comments
spacebhouy to ray magini
30 Nov 127#6
what a waste of good whiskey mixing it with anything.
ray magini
30 Nov 124#3
great with ginger beer mixer or lemonade
phatboytall23
30 Nov 124#11
Jim Murray's full review -
Nose: (24.5) rarely does exotic fruit come quite so exotic! The oak is pulling out every trick in the book to underscore its great age with an aroma as softly enveloping as it has any right to be. Those who remember fruit salad candy will also seduced by this one. As well rounded as any malt you'll find this year and probably as labyrinthine, too. And, just to prove it, a few peat notes escape from their fruity clutches to add weight and depth, the intensity increasing as the temperature and oxidisation increases.
Taste: (24) all the fruits registered on the nose are present and correct, but it is the spices which momentarily take the breath away. A fabulous mouth feel alternating between crisp and mouth-watering - aided and abetted by some staccato Demerara sugar notes - and always no less than feather-pillow soft. The mid ground starts allowing the oak to show some intense vanilla and that lazy smoke to gain a foothold, a more solid one with each mouthful;
Finish: (22.5) dry and sophisticated, the fruit is now spent and a slight tang reminds us of the great age here. A light, delicate fade with the peat withdrawing surprisingly early on;
Balance: (24) Last year Lidl unearthed a couple of stunning whiskies to be sold at an improbably economic price to the consumer. They have done it again for Christmas 2012 with a malt destined to be another collectors' item. At times towards the end the age is apparent. But no less so is a malt which has on the nose and delivery a marriage between oak and barley matured in heaven. A very softly smoked, delightfully fruity gem.
StephenB
30 Nov 123#15
There will be a voucher in Saturday's Telegraph giving £5 off £35 at Lidl. Link.
All comments (67)
LongPockets
30 Nov 12#1
Why would anyone pay double when you can get it at this price from Lidl?
printer528
30 Nov 12#2
If that is the case, why don't the experts buy it all and then sell it on themselves.
ray magini
30 Nov 124#3
great with ginger beer mixer or lemonade
spacebhouy to ray magini
30 Nov 127#6
what a waste of good whiskey mixing it with anything.
davidbale
30 Nov 121#4
I didn't say "pay" I said "worth"
LongPockets to davidbale
30 Nov 12#5
If no one will pay it, it isn't "worth" it.
LongPockets
30 Nov 122#7
Yeah, and sarcasm is wasted on the internet.
LongPockets
30 Nov 12#8
Means even less than "RRP" if that is possible.
RossD89
30 Nov 121#9
Looks like ill be buying myself a nice little Christmas pressie!
jaydeeuk1
30 Nov 121#10
Got the 28 year old maxwell from a year or so ago, yet to open. This any good then?
phatboytall23
30 Nov 124#11
Jim Murray's full review -
Nose: (24.5) rarely does exotic fruit come quite so exotic! The oak is pulling out every trick in the book to underscore its great age with an aroma as softly enveloping as it has any right to be. Those who remember fruit salad candy will also seduced by this one. As well rounded as any malt you'll find this year and probably as labyrinthine, too. And, just to prove it, a few peat notes escape from their fruity clutches to add weight and depth, the intensity increasing as the temperature and oxidisation increases.
Taste: (24) all the fruits registered on the nose are present and correct, but it is the spices which momentarily take the breath away. A fabulous mouth feel alternating between crisp and mouth-watering - aided and abetted by some staccato Demerara sugar notes - and always no less than feather-pillow soft. The mid ground starts allowing the oak to show some intense vanilla and that lazy smoke to gain a foothold, a more solid one with each mouthful;
Finish: (22.5) dry and sophisticated, the fruit is now spent and a slight tang reminds us of the great age here. A light, delicate fade with the peat withdrawing surprisingly early on;
Balance: (24) Last year Lidl unearthed a couple of stunning whiskies to be sold at an improbably economic price to the consumer. They have done it again for Christmas 2012 with a malt destined to be another collectors' item. At times towards the end the age is apparent. But no less so is a malt which has on the nose and delivery a marriage between oak and barley matured in heaven. A very softly smoked, delightfully fruity gem.
brooklynbrawler
30 Nov 12#12
To be honest, I've never heard of Maxwells, but a 33 year old of any whisky is worth this sort of money easily, because half the barrell will have evaporated by the time they come to bottling it.
Whatever kegs they've used, it will probably put a strong flavour through it too.
ray magini
30 Nov 12#13
Baited the hook and in it comes....btw Whiskey is not Whisky
catherton
30 Nov 121#14
Some of us got the joke Ray
StephenB
30 Nov 123#15
There will be a voucher in Saturday's Telegraph giving £5 off £35 at Lidl. Link.
zekespah
30 Nov 121#16
Pillock
beavan1
30 Nov 121#17
Have you not heard of Bushmills or Jameson??
wombourne
30 Nov 12#18
Just a myth i'm afraid.
At most they're will be 3% evaporation and that will be rare.
Never known a whisky to be at that age either.
wombourne
30 Nov 12#19
If it's from Scotland it whisky.
Monkeybumcheeks
30 Nov 12#20
Sure Lidls were punting this out last year.... how many bottles of this have they got lying around ?
davidbale to Monkeybumcheeks
30 Nov 12#31
last year they had a 28yr old, this whisky is limited edition of 5200 bottles
tallphilc
30 Nov 121#21
The 3% must be "The Angels' Share"
tallphilc
30 Nov 121#22
I bought a Laphroaig last Xmas and it still sits here with only 1/3 drunk simply because I find it a little too peaty and smoky and my friends cannot abide it!
I might give this a go this year.
blackadr to tallphilc
30 Nov 12#54
Send it to me, I'll drink it.
honeymonster86
30 Nov 12#23
Sheesh, so pedantic. It wouldn't stop me drinking it however they spell it!
0762
30 Nov 12#24
If this was any good it wouldn't be getting sold off at Lidl under an unknown brand name. Suspicious.
RufusA to 0762
30 Nov 12#27
It's probably a condition of the distillery supplying the bottler that they do not want revealed on the packaging the name of the distillery. This is common with many "own brand" products.
Sadly the whisky has been chill filtered and looks like a good splash of caramel colouring in there - but beggars can't be choosers.
Lakeside
30 Nov 12#25
Stop digging beavan man :smile:
RufusA
30 Nov 12#26
Having spoken to a number of distillers in the Scottish climate the ullage is around 1-2% per year depending on how the nature of the cask and how it is stored. So over 30+ years that's 30 - 50% of the cask volume!
cubed
30 Nov 121#28
you'll have more luck winning the lottery than finding a bottle of this.
davidbale to cubed
30 Nov 12#34
Wish I'd entered the lottery then cos I had 2 bottles of this today :-)
megaman666
30 Nov 12#29
Lidl is German.. Im not drinking German whisky. Cold
davidbale
30 Nov 12#30
are you real????
davidbale
30 Nov 12#32
How do you know it's been chill filtered? Can't find any evidence of that or caramel colouring. I'm no expert but I have tasted this and can honestly say it's very very good. Read the review from Jim Murray that phatboytall posted on page one
stickyricky
30 Nov 121#33
this would be a good investmant to keep until it reaches the 50 yr old mark.......then auction it. Was there not a bottle just recently up for auction reaching the 100,000 mark? Proceeds going to scottish charities. Maybe pie in the sky. In my house it wouldnt last the weekend!:wink: Would it still have to be in the barrel to be considered 50 yr old in 17 yrs? Just had that notion!
Nesima
30 Nov 12#35
It is not pedantic.
It is the difference between being correct or incorrect.
Nesima
30 Nov 121#36
You are clearly a chimpanzee I refuse to debate with a chimpanzee.
lholmes
30 Nov 12#37
6 bottles of this in lidl burton on trent yesterday. Better of with the18yr old speyside at 19.99 - good reviews and bronze award from iwc
Outrunner
30 Nov 12#38
Keeping the whisky for an extra 17 years will not make a whisky that has matured for 50 years. It will be a 17 year old, 33 year matured whisky, it only ages in the barrel.
ndc
30 Nov 12#39
I believe most stores are sold out :disappointed:
wombourne
30 Nov 12#40
Absolute nonsense.
Would you care to name the distillers you've spoken to that have given you those percentages?
samsun
30 Nov 12#41
I was told something similar by a guy from The Edrington Group. No idea if it's true though....
megaman666
30 Nov 121#42
you mad bro? i just checked on their website.. theyre german alright!
Crazy Chris
30 Nov 12#43
my dad will love this, hope i can get one
cubed to Crazy Chris
30 Nov 12#45
I have tried all morning and theres no chance. Apparently it was on sale since Wednesday so everything has gone.
Monkeybumcheeks
30 Nov 12#44
Keeping the whisky for an extra 17 years would improve it's desirability though..... numbers of remaining bottles would certainly have dwindled by then :smirk:
brooklynbrawler
30 Nov 12#46
Went to 4 different Lidl and none of them have any bottles.
Infact, 2 of them said they didnt even HAVE any bottles delivered, despite displaying a sign for the offer and clearly having no shelfspace set aside for it...
The person who said that the evaporation is a myth is wrong.
I've spent a lot of time at distilleries (hic! :stuck_out_tongue: ) and the older the barrels, the more it tends to cost, primarily due to the fact that there is a fraction of the original barrel left.
You can obviously add a premium for storage and the ageing process, but evaporation is definitely the biggest factor.
Also, the person who mentioned keeping it for 17 years...if it was a desireable or collectable whisky, then you might be right, but once bottled, the average bottle doesn't tend to gain a huge value. You could put the cost price in a savings account and get 17 years interest and probably make a better return.
dvdvicar
30 Nov 121#47
You shouldn't drink any whisky cold - German or otherwise.
Andwoo
30 Nov 12#48
Whisky not whiskey :-)
drasim
30 Nov 12#49
Depends where you are. There were 4 bottles at Emersons Green and I bought 1, around 9.30 this morning
davidbale
30 Nov 122#50
Yes they are a German company but the whisky isn't German you nutter
connelp
30 Nov 12#51
I've been on a tour of the Jamesons distillery in Dublin and they quoted figures similar to those above. They refer to it as 'the angels share'.
Are you suggesting Jamesons are liars?
ray magini
30 Nov 12#52
Pillock
Noun for Idiot, fool. Originally a slang term for the **** but fairly inoffensive now its this meaning has been forgotten
zekespah
30 Nov 12#53
Very good. I am fully aware of the meaning and wouldn't be happy to be thought of as a pillock.
andrewp
30 Nov 12#55
Managed to get last bottle at a store near me. Woman I spoke to a Lidl HQ said they had a memo around which said there was none left in the country. I got her to check a local store after hearing they had a couple and she confirmed they did, which she was amazed at.
So there may be a few out there if you're lucky.
She said they were going to bring another similar whisky deal out soon and to keep an eye out
cubed to andrewp
30 Nov 12#60
I was told by HQ that they do these type of offers once every 6-12 months. I would be surprised if they do it again before Christmas, but I sure hope they do. Aldi did the 40 year old whisky last year so lets see what they do this year. But you have to queue from 6am onwards if you want a chance which frankly I can't be arrsed to do.
SW69
30 Nov 12#56
Rode my pushbike around for 3 hours looking for some! Got the last 2 in Balham. Never had Scotch before so will crack it with some pepsi max
Thanks OP!!!
ray magini to SW69
2 Dec 12#65
Try it with Vimto...smashing
bra1ne
30 Nov 12#57
Such a pretentious comment. I love whiskey, straight, on the rocks and yes even with lemonade. Sometimes I want a long refreshing drink so, to drop some decent whiskey in a glass of lemonade makes a boring simple glass of lemonade become wonderful.
You sit their on your throne with with nothing but straight drinks and be happy :P
Crazy Chris
30 Nov 12#58
ooh dear, theres two in the area I live so ill give them ago just incase, fingers crossed!
pajjy1888
30 Nov 12#59
No no no. People selling these on ebay trying to get £100.
davidbale to pajjy1888
30 Nov 12#61
do what I did and report them, selling alcohol on ebay for consumption is prohibited.
chrisking66 to pajjy1888
1 Dec 12#62
thats no shock, and yes ebay is full of idiots
(http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Christmas-Treat-33-years-old-MAXWELL-HIGHLAND-SINGLE-MALT-SCOTCH-WHISKY-/130811778131?pt=UK_Collectables_Bottle_Pots_ET&hash=item1e74fd5453 @ sold £70)
if you google 33 year old maxwell whiskey this is on the first page alone with the new story covering it, (but so are the sources used for most things on ebay if you google the keywords for the listing, so ya ebay is full of idiots nothing new
and like said above report it, tho ebay just pull the listing and the seller can relist, also i think these would be allow under collectible as who really pays £70 just to get **** on a 33 year old whiskey
blahblahdoh
1 Dec 121#63
The American distilling institute disagrees:
". In a standard distillery barrel (i.e. 53 gallons) about 10% of the remaining spirit in
the barrels evaporates each year. And, it’s not unusual for a barrel of fine 15-year-old single
malt Scotch whisky to be less than half full when it’s ready to be bottled."
Opening post
This fine single malt has lain untouched in oak casks for 33 years to produce an outstanding whisky with a soft, sweet taste and a subtle kick of spice and citrus in its long, lingering finish
40% vol.
70cl
Top comments
Nose: (24.5) rarely does exotic fruit come quite so exotic! The oak is pulling out every trick in the book to underscore its great age with an aroma as softly enveloping as it has any right to be. Those who remember fruit salad candy will also seduced by this one. As well rounded as any malt you'll find this year and probably as labyrinthine, too. And, just to prove it, a few peat notes escape from their fruity clutches to add weight and depth, the intensity increasing as the temperature and oxidisation increases.
Taste: (24) all the fruits registered on the nose are present and correct, but it is the spices which momentarily take the breath away. A fabulous mouth feel alternating between crisp and mouth-watering - aided and abetted by some staccato Demerara sugar notes - and always no less than feather-pillow soft. The mid ground starts allowing the oak to show some intense vanilla and that lazy smoke to gain a foothold, a more solid one with each mouthful;
Finish: (22.5) dry and sophisticated, the fruit is now spent and a slight tang reminds us of the great age here. A light, delicate fade with the peat withdrawing surprisingly early on;
Balance: (24) Last year Lidl unearthed a couple of stunning whiskies to be sold at an improbably economic price to the consumer. They have done it again for Christmas 2012 with a malt destined to be another collectors' item. At times towards the end the age is apparent. But no less so is a malt which has on the nose and delivery a marriage between oak and barley matured in heaven. A very softly smoked, delightfully fruity gem.
All comments (67)
Nose: (24.5) rarely does exotic fruit come quite so exotic! The oak is pulling out every trick in the book to underscore its great age with an aroma as softly enveloping as it has any right to be. Those who remember fruit salad candy will also seduced by this one. As well rounded as any malt you'll find this year and probably as labyrinthine, too. And, just to prove it, a few peat notes escape from their fruity clutches to add weight and depth, the intensity increasing as the temperature and oxidisation increases.
Taste: (24) all the fruits registered on the nose are present and correct, but it is the spices which momentarily take the breath away. A fabulous mouth feel alternating between crisp and mouth-watering - aided and abetted by some staccato Demerara sugar notes - and always no less than feather-pillow soft. The mid ground starts allowing the oak to show some intense vanilla and that lazy smoke to gain a foothold, a more solid one with each mouthful;
Finish: (22.5) dry and sophisticated, the fruit is now spent and a slight tang reminds us of the great age here. A light, delicate fade with the peat withdrawing surprisingly early on;
Balance: (24) Last year Lidl unearthed a couple of stunning whiskies to be sold at an improbably economic price to the consumer. They have done it again for Christmas 2012 with a malt destined to be another collectors' item. At times towards the end the age is apparent. But no less so is a malt which has on the nose and delivery a marriage between oak and barley matured in heaven. A very softly smoked, delightfully fruity gem.
Whatever kegs they've used, it will probably put a strong flavour through it too.
At most they're will be 3% evaporation and that will be rare.
Never known a whisky to be at that age either.
I might give this a go this year.
Sadly the whisky has been chill filtered and looks like a good splash of caramel colouring in there - but beggars can't be choosers.
It is the difference between being correct or incorrect.
Would you care to name the distillers you've spoken to that have given you those percentages?
Infact, 2 of them said they didnt even HAVE any bottles delivered, despite displaying a sign for the offer and clearly having no shelfspace set aside for it...
The person who said that the evaporation is a myth is wrong.
I've spent a lot of time at distilleries (hic! :stuck_out_tongue: ) and the older the barrels, the more it tends to cost, primarily due to the fact that there is a fraction of the original barrel left.
You can obviously add a premium for storage and the ageing process, but evaporation is definitely the biggest factor.
Also, the person who mentioned keeping it for 17 years...if it was a desireable or collectable whisky, then you might be right, but once bottled, the average bottle doesn't tend to gain a huge value. You could put the cost price in a savings account and get 17 years interest and probably make a better return.
Are you suggesting Jamesons are liars?
Noun for Idiot, fool. Originally a slang term for the **** but fairly inoffensive now its this meaning has been forgotten
So there may be a few out there if you're lucky.
She said they were going to bring another similar whisky deal out soon and to keep an eye out
Thanks OP!!!
You sit their on your throne with with nothing but straight drinks and be happy :P
(http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Christmas-Treat-33-years-old-MAXWELL-HIGHLAND-SINGLE-MALT-SCOTCH-WHISKY-/130811778131?pt=UK_Collectables_Bottle_Pots_ET&hash=item1e74fd5453 @ sold £70)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAXWELL-HIGHLAND-SINGLE-MALT-SCOTCH-WHISKEY-AGED-33-YEARS-1979-/121031012058?pt=UK_Collectables_Bottle_Pots_ET&hash=item1c2e02aeda @ sold £89.99)
if you google 33 year old maxwell whiskey this is on the first page alone with the new story covering it, (but so are the sources used for most things on ebay if you google the keywords for the listing, so ya ebay is full of idiots nothing new
and like said above report it, tho ebay just pull the listing and the seller can relist, also i think these would be allow under collectible as who really pays £70 just to get **** on a 33 year old whiskey
". In a standard distillery barrel (i.e. 53 gallons) about 10% of the remaining spirit in
the barrels evaporates each year. And, it’s not unusual for a barrel of fine 15-year-old single
malt Scotch whisky to be less than half full when it’s ready to be bottled."
http://www.distilling.com/PDF/chapter4.pdf