KH 980 Lidl intelligent Delta V charger :- independently charge 1-6 AA /AAA cells, 1-4 C/D cells, or 1-2 9v PP3.
Some think this has the same insides as some of the Maha or Annsman units that retails at £40 +. An extra bonus is the usual LIDL 3 year warranty.
You can also read the manual via kompernass.com
The circuitry analyses each battery and may perform discharging, initial pulse charging and then standard charging on an individual basis..
This is very important for anyone either making regular use of multiple batteries or topping up half charged batteries. Older used sets of batteries can benefit more due to age related mismatch/variance and certainly helps ensure all of the batteries are fully charged.
The only niggle in this unit is that sometimes a completely dead zero voltage battery first needs a kick start from a dumb charger such the poundland USB charger.
Anyone still using the flash function of a camera with alkaline batteries will find that NiMh batteries last at least twice as long - times one thousand.
Note that no batteries are included.
The standard retail price in Lidl is £12.99(before the VAT rise) and certainly great value even at that price.
All comments (47)
Pembs
5 Jan 111#1
Hot, bought one about two years ago still working fine, best i've used
Duelling Duck
5 Jan 11#2
It is a great charger but I'll also add that you do have to very occasionally kickstart some batteries. This has only ever happened to the Tronic 2400mAh AA batteries (grey/black) I got which completely exaggerate their capacity.
Gixxerman001
5 Jan 11#3
Is this one that also recharges ordinary ni-cad batteries?
I heard about that ages ago but never seem to see any chargers able to do that.
pipesmoker to Gixxerman001
5 Jan 11#4
from website:
"Charges AAA, AA, C, D and 9V Ni-MH or Ni-Cd batteries"
stamfordblue
5 Jan 11#5
Bought this last time it appeared at this price in Sept last year.
Really good charger for the price.
Heat added
kemik
5 Jan 11#6
Does it come with any batteries ? or can anyone recommend batteries to use with this?
Thanks
SpikePhoenix
5 Jan 111#7
Not that great a deal. Has been sold previously for 8.99 and will probably do again.
this was £2.99 at my local lidl in the discount bins - probably been there since the last promotion
zippy22
5 Jan 11#9
Sometimes shows good batterys as faulty. Placing them in a standard charger for charging cycle solves the problem.
emmacowley
5 Jan 11#10
Thanks! xxx
moneyforme
5 Jan 11#11
My local Lidl had a car park clearance sale over a year ago, they had a deal fill your trolley for £20.00.
Well I filled mine with LED torches, electricals, tools, mixed goods and 10 of these chargers.
LadyEleanor
5 Jan 11#12
That 7dayshop stuff is good value with great starter packs. And their delta V one is amazing value even if it does not charge cells individually.
Lidl's eneloop type are £3 for 4 AA when available.
rdann
5 Jan 112#13
I have both 7 day shop and this Lidl charger; there is no comparison the Lidl is way ahead in every aspect.
Not especially a hot deal as it is always around this price, but if you want a charger you will not get better for the price.
LadyEleanor
5 Jan 11#14
I had to wait 4 months to find/buy one, and it was £12.99 but stayed in stock for a few months
4 months later I saw it at £9.99 and in stock for a week or so..
Timbo_UK
5 Jan 11#15
Hve this charger, brilliant.
niceblokedave
5 Jan 11#16
Cheers for that m8 . Ordered one !
rash
5 Jan 11#17
ive got one from dealextreme, its had loads of review on the website and its more compact than this, 4 independent channels with status for each as well as refresh function. charges at 525 for 4 AA or 1000mah for 2 AA, so pretty quick!
And its about the same price as this - but probably charges faster.
pibpob to rash
5 Jan 11#25
Trying to quote rash here - don't know why it doesn't display properly as it looks OK in the editor.
I have bought two mains-powered devices from DealExtreme - a LiIon battery charger and a netbook power supply. Both were electrically unsafe and the netbook power supply went bang (literally) the second time I used it. Some of the obvious way these fakes (CE mark? Ha!) cut corners is to leave out the filter components and to have cable claiming to be 0.75mm2 when it contains hair-thin cores. I would strongly recommend you do not buy anything mains-powered from DealExtreme for your own safety.
LadyEleanor
5 Jan 11#18
Charge is 1000 mah per each AA cell.
A very good compromise rate(2 hours +) with 15 minute charges being very destructive.
mccririck to LadyEleanor
5 Jan 11#20
What?
floridafil
5 Jan 11#19
I have been using this charger for the last year or so and it is excellent. You can actually charge up to 8 batteries at one time dependeing on size, i.e. 6 x AA or AAA PLUS 2 x 9v batteries.
You can also mix battery sizes.
I agree with the statement relating to completely dead zero voltage battery sometimes first needing a kick start from a dumb charger.
lovelldr
5 Jan 11#21
Have this and an ansmann charger. They are basically the same, but the ansmann costs 3 times more...
Great charger, and worth the price in my opinion... Wouldn't bother with faster chargers, as they are likely to damage the cells in batteries from what I've read...
hosepiper
5 Jan 11#22
Really good charger.
Great for eneloop batteries too as not too fast a charge.
Better a slower charge than wreck the batteries for the sake of 5 minutes.
Martini
5 Jan 111#23
A very good charger but forget about the Tronic batteries!
Buy Sanyo Eneloop or the 7Dayshop "Good to Go" equivalents.
They last twice as long in my Roberts digital radio that I take to work.
If the battery charger reports that the battery is faulty (red flashing LED) leave it in place overnight (or for a while) with the LED flashing. Then remove it and re-install in the charger. This usually works for me but I have had to "force" a battery a couple of times with a non-intelligent charger.
bollybobinson
5 Jan 112#24
I have 3 of these, brilliant, independant channel, diagnostic with refresh, they measure the battery fill, refresh, charge fairly quickly at a healthy rate, detect the fill then switch to trickle......the absolute best for your batteries. Both nicad and nimh batteries. The two 9v slots are only on a timer. The only down side is 1) You need to brute charge a completely dead battery in another charger to start it off, it confuses this charger into thinking the battery is faulty.
I am one of the people who is convinced this is the same as the + £40 Ansmann charger... it looks the same and does the same.
Cannot recommend enough ........ The other chargers people drone on about do not care for your batteries, yes they can charge them in a nano second but they cook the batteries..... buy another set of batteries and get one of these.
rohanch
6 Jan 111#26
I have this charger and it's good for the money. It's designed and manufactured in Germany I believe, and tested by TUV, so at least in theory it should be much safer than unbranded imports from China.
It does work very similarly to the Ansmann energy series chargers but not exactly the same (the refresh cycle is different) and inside they are different, they have different circuit boards. Also the newer Ansmann "plus" chargers have delta temperature (dT) charge control which is even better than -dV especially on tired batteries.
That is the only reservation I have about this charger - be careful with older/worn batteries. I charged some old Maplin rechargeables in this and the charger failed to cut off. I think they were charging for probably 5 hours or so and got so hot that the outer labels melted off, pretty close to disaster I think. I'm a bit worried that there doesn't seem to be a backup timer cutoff for cases like this. Maybe it just wasn't long enough.
pibpob
6 Jan 11#27
Unbranded imports from China are not the problem. Unbranded (or fake branded - the netbook power supply I bought had Acer branding) imports from China via methods that bypass the regulations and cannot be held responsible for their actions, e.g. DealExtreme, are the problem. For example, there was space on the PCB of the two devices I bought for filter components, but they weren't there. The same factory would simply be able to install those components to supply the same device to more legitimate markets.
Edit: thanks for the other info in your posting - very useful.
aphasiac
6 Jan 11#28
Are Lidl deals normally nation-wide?
Just dropped into both my local Lidl stores (East London), and neither had these chargers.
SpikePhoenix to aphasiac
6 Jan 11#29
they're store specific. Go to the Lidl webpage and search the special deals.
eg the battery charger will be in the "DIY Essentials" specials at my local store from the 10th Jan
ukez to aphasiac
10 Jan 11#35
I think you can check via their website as to what store has them in stock
aphasiac
6 Jan 11#30
Thanks - they're at my local store from the 10th too.
LadyEleanor
6 Jan 11#31
The stock and special deal arrives on Monday 10th January.
They go fast in many stores and yes the offer is not always nationwide so double check on the website.
heatherw_01
10 Jan 11#32
Thanks for posting, got mine today
Steer
10 Jan 11#33
Got one today, cheers, did not have any batterys in stock, so ordered from 7dayshop
ukez
10 Jan 11#34
I got mine a few hours ago, its quality man..Much better than the other crap i've had in the past ...many thanks OP :smiley:
barneydog
11 Jan 11#36
No you can't, you can check whether they have an item on offer in that store (put a post code close to a store into their website as some offers are regional) but you can't check stock numbers in any store
heatherw_01
11 Jan 11#37
Anyone know how you get it to do a refresh cycle? Is it automatic?
poisondwarf to heatherw_01
11 Jan 11#38
Short answer...yes
Longer answer...I just chuck the batteries in, turn it on at the wall and leave it till its finished.
cjb1971
11 Jan 11#39
I got an energiser one with a fan the back of it,charges batts in 15 mins would this one be better seems it charges them a bit slower??maybe extend the batt life?
pibpob
11 Jan 11#40
Yes, it seems to be the consensus that very fast chargers (< 1 hour or so) reduce the life of the batteries. But if you simply must have them done in 15 mins...
chopper227
11 Jan 11#41
got mine its brill got 2 packs of 2500 AA's for a fiver as well i have a high drain DSLR camera
they refresh when the LED's flash red green then constant red for charging
looks and feels good quality was in cannock 9:30 monday i got the last 2 packs of 2500 batterys and there were 4 more chargers one already opened !
pibpob
11 Jan 11#42
Lidl usually opens one packet so that people can prod and poke the contents rather than open all the rest. Unfortunately some of the claims of battery capacity are dubious at best - their capacity is likely to drop rapidly as they age.
nairobi
12 Jan 11#43
Picked one up in Charlton. They had about 3-4 left. It's now charging happily.
Thanks to OP, heat added
poisondwarf
12 Jan 11#44
10 left in Lidl at Astley Bridge
No batteries though!
Also plenty of their super duper screenwash in stock at same store...but thats on another thread on here somewhere
beejan
24 Jan 11#45
bought one today ,just lucky had 2 left one was opened picked the boxed one ,
its a good charger threw some batteries charged them in under 2 hours ,,basic ones i think 2000 mah ones ,,i tried ,,but showed red flashing light on 3 others i put in ,,so take them out and are in the unirose charger overnight
thanks
billyboy1
3 Oct 15#46
Got it for a pound today at @ carboot
retrogeezer
6 Feb 17#47
mine just went pop after years of great service :disappointed:
Opening post
Some think this has the same insides as some of the Maha or Annsman units that retails at £40 +. An extra bonus is the usual LIDL 3 year warranty.
You can also read the manual via kompernass.com
The circuitry analyses each battery and may perform discharging, initial pulse charging and then standard charging on an individual basis..
This is very important for anyone either making regular use of multiple batteries or topping up half charged batteries. Older used sets of batteries can benefit more due to age related mismatch/variance and certainly helps ensure all of the batteries are fully charged.
The only niggle in this unit is that sometimes a completely dead zero voltage battery first needs a kick start from a dumb charger such the poundland USB charger.
Anyone still using the flash function of a camera with alkaline batteries will find that NiMh batteries last at least twice as long - times one thousand.
Note that no batteries are included.
The standard retail price in Lidl is £12.99(before the VAT rise) and certainly great value even at that price.
All comments (47)
I heard about that ages ago but never seem to see any chargers able to do that.
"Charges AAA, AA, C, D and 9V Ni-MH or Ni-Cd batteries"
Really good charger for the price.
Heat added
Thanks
Some good deals at 7dayshop...
charger for £7.80 inc 4 eneloop AA batteries
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_3&products_id=107183
charger for £5.50 inc 4x2600mAh AA's
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_3&products_id=109608
or if you want more then 4 charging at the same time get two of
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_3&products_id=102043
for the same price (less with TCB) and have 8 charging via plug, USB or Car
HTH
:smiley:
Well I filled mine with LED torches, electricals, tools, mixed goods and 10 of these chargers.
Lidl's eneloop type are £3 for 4 AA when available.
Not especially a hot deal as it is always around this price, but if you want a charger you will not get better for the price.
4 months later I saw it at £9.99 and in stock for a week or so..
And its about the same price as this - but probably charges faster.
I have bought two mains-powered devices from DealExtreme - a LiIon battery charger and a netbook power supply. Both were electrically unsafe and the netbook power supply went bang (literally) the second time I used it. Some of the obvious way these fakes (CE mark? Ha!) cut corners is to leave out the filter components and to have cable claiming to be 0.75mm2 when it contains hair-thin cores. I would strongly recommend you do not buy anything mains-powered from DealExtreme for your own safety.
A very good compromise rate(2 hours +) with 15 minute charges being very destructive.
You can also mix battery sizes.
I agree with the statement relating to completely dead zero voltage battery sometimes first needing a kick start from a dumb charger.
Great charger, and worth the price in my opinion... Wouldn't bother with faster chargers, as they are likely to damage the cells in batteries from what I've read...
Great for eneloop batteries too as not too fast a charge.
Better a slower charge than wreck the batteries for the sake of 5 minutes.
Buy Sanyo Eneloop or the 7Dayshop "Good to Go" equivalents.
They last twice as long in my Roberts digital radio that I take to work.
If the battery charger reports that the battery is faulty (red flashing LED) leave it in place overnight (or for a while) with the LED flashing. Then remove it and re-install in the charger. This usually works for me but I have had to "force" a battery a couple of times with a non-intelligent charger.
I am one of the people who is convinced this is the same as the + £40 Ansmann charger... it looks the same and does the same.
Cannot recommend enough ........ The other chargers people drone on about do not care for your batteries, yes they can charge them in a nano second but they cook the batteries..... buy another set of batteries and get one of these.
It does work very similarly to the Ansmann energy series chargers but not exactly the same (the refresh cycle is different) and inside they are different, they have different circuit boards. Also the newer Ansmann "plus" chargers have delta temperature (dT) charge control which is even better than -dV especially on tired batteries.
That is the only reservation I have about this charger - be careful with older/worn batteries. I charged some old Maplin rechargeables in this and the charger failed to cut off. I think they were charging for probably 5 hours or so and got so hot that the outer labels melted off, pretty close to disaster I think. I'm a bit worried that there doesn't seem to be a backup timer cutoff for cases like this. Maybe it just wasn't long enough.
Edit: thanks for the other info in your posting - very useful.
Just dropped into both my local Lidl stores (East London), and neither had these chargers.
eg the battery charger will be in the "DIY Essentials" specials at my local store from the 10th Jan
They go fast in many stores and yes the offer is not always nationwide so double check on the website.
Longer answer...I just chuck the batteries in, turn it on at the wall and leave it till its finished.
they refresh when the LED's flash red green then constant red for charging
looks and feels good quality was in cannock 9:30 monday i got the last 2 packs of 2500 batterys and there were 4 more chargers one already opened !
Thanks to OP, heat added
No batteries though!
Also plenty of their super duper screenwash in stock at same store...but thats on another thread on here somewhere
its a good charger threw some batteries charged them in under 2 hours ,,basic ones i think 2000 mah ones ,,i tried ,,but showed red flashing light on 3 others i put in ,,so take them out and are in the unirose charger overnight
thanks