Thought I'd bring this secret to everyones attention who uses this site and who uses energy drinks for one reason or another. There's no need to pay out £20+ a month (if your one of those people like me who was spending £5 a week at least on energy drinks for the gym or training)., all you need to do is purchase some glucose powder!
You can buy it at most supermarkets and boots, superdrug etc, usually in packs at around 450 grams and usually around £1.40 for a box. This tends to last me at least a month and thats the powder 5 times a week (5-6 teaspoons mixed in with my 750ml squash drink). As I said it can save people money who buy energy drinks alot. Hope some of you find this useful.
Top comments
Matt.Wild
18 Aug 094#4
Glucose is not simply sugar. There are lots of different types of sugar. Glucose (often called dextrose) is VERY easily taken into the body as it is the exact same chemical breakdown as blood sugar. This is why it will give you energy almost instantly (well not quite...) after drinking it.
Other sugar types include your basic refined sugars (which can be brown/white/granulated/fine etc) and the others for sports drinks like maltodextrin, waxy maize starch and the like of Vitargo.
So no, its not simply a way of saying sugar. Oh and try and drink a glass of refined sugar - all gritty and nasty - this will blend into water with a few shakes.
Hope that helps...
pookienoodle to pete_l
18 Aug 093#8
The way in which the body metabolises different sugars is the key thing.
Fructose(50g) has a G.I of around 20 it is metabolised slowly and is ideal for diabetics.
Glucose(50g) has a G.I of around 85 it is metabolised quickly and is ideal for sportspeople.
All comments (47)
BeginHunter
18 Aug 09#1
Sorry why is this being voted cold. Its a big saving for people who want glucose fuelled drinks. Fair enough if you don't need to use them, but thats still no need to vote cold. You tell me how saving someone up to £20 a month on drink is a bad thing??
PR1 to BeginHunter
18 Aug 09#2
just playing devil's advocate, but is this a good deal on glucose powder? Or is it just a suggestion for an alternative product to use in something's place, rather than a deal? ;-)
pete_l
18 Aug 09#3
> why is this being voted cold
Isn't "glucose powder" just a silly way of saying "sugar"?
Matt.Wild
18 Aug 094#4
Glucose is not simply sugar. There are lots of different types of sugar. Glucose (often called dextrose) is VERY easily taken into the body as it is the exact same chemical breakdown as blood sugar. This is why it will give you energy almost instantly (well not quite...) after drinking it.
Other sugar types include your basic refined sugars (which can be brown/white/granulated/fine etc) and the others for sports drinks like maltodextrin, waxy maize starch and the like of Vitargo.
So no, its not simply a way of saying sugar. Oh and try and drink a glass of refined sugar - all gritty and nasty - this will blend into water with a few shakes.
Hope that helps...
pete_l
18 Aug 09#5
Thanks - you've confirmed that it is basically just sugar. The -ose bit means exactly that.
> this will blend into water with a few shakes.
Right, so it's caster sugar. If you want it to dissolve easier, just use warm water. All it does is provide energy (i.e. calories) in a form that's easy to absorb, so any sugar will do. Might as well save even more money and just get a bag of bog standard Tate & Lyle.
On a slightly different note - doesn't that make exercising rather pointless? You spend all that time burning up calories to get fit, then put 'em all back on again with a sugary drink (not to mention the damage it does to your teeth).
pookienoodle to pete_l
18 Aug 093#8
The way in which the body metabolises different sugars is the key thing.
Fructose(50g) has a G.I of around 20 it is metabolised slowly and is ideal for diabetics.
Glucose(50g) has a G.I of around 85 it is metabolised quickly and is ideal for sportspeople.
Matt.Wild to pete_l
18 Aug 091#9
No. Its not just sugar. Carbs are sugars. Fruit, veg and grains are sugars if you want to be tricky about things Its not as simple as that. This will alter the way it is absorbed. A glucose based drink will thus help the a person either training or about to train as it will provide immediate energy. A refined sugar drink will not. Just because it blends into the water, doesn't mean it will absorb as quick into the body.
And no smarty pants, it does not render exercises useless. When you exercise, you damage muscle. It needs repairing. When you combine a simple sugar (such as glucose, vitargo or WMS) with protein the insulin spike will shuttle the proetin into the muscle giving 200% more protein to the musle rather than drinking protein on its own without a transport. A simple sugar shuttle is quite important as this 200% increase is available for about 30 mins post exercise.
shamus1975 to pete_l
18 Aug 09#45
your obviously not in to sport or regular exercise if you do some research you may relise that you sound so stupid with what your saying and know its not caster sugar god get a life
dvjscott7 to pete_l
31 Jan 17#47
the damage it does to your teeth???
ha ha ha that is a ludicrous thing to say, as long as you do not swill it like mouthwash trust me there will be no damage to your teeth!
I think you're brain may be a tad damaged though.
punkrjb
18 Aug 09#6
..... eh?
Tim_UK
18 Aug 09#7
lots of money to be saved here, voting hot
Matt.Wild
18 Aug 09#10
Thank you, someone who understands sugars :thumbsup:
Repped!
Infact, the exact figures are:
Table sugar or refined sugar (sucrose) has an intermediate GI value (about 60-65). This is due to the fact that it's a disaccharide (double sugar) comprising one glucose molecule (GI value 100) plus one fructose molecule (GI value 19).
The higher the GI figure, the more readily it will be absorbed. Thus glucose is about 35-40% more effective. Oh its one HELL of a lot less sweet, makes it far more drinkable, if such a word exists.
Johnny Fear
18 Aug 09#11
Right, I'm not trying to be a wide-o here ok. I use dextrose myself in my waterbottle when I'm training.
But is this a deal, i.e. Sainsbury are selling this cheaper than other suppliers or is this more of a money saving tip?
Not gonna vote cold or anything, just curious.
shadowdogg
18 Aug 09#12
glucose powder. Why would i buy that.
Partly reason for the glucose drinks is the flavour is nice like lucasaze orange/lemon.
Matt.Wild to shadowdogg
18 Aug 09#14
You can add this to any type of squash you see fit.
deadduck_145
18 Aug 09#13
thanks use quite a lot of this, and my club have recently decided to supply it in our drinks bottles. Good price
csiman
18 Aug 09#15
Maybe because you state its normally £1.50 for 500g and this deal is £1.40 for 450g. In other words, it's more expensive! :w00t:
"Alot alot more cheaper"
"A lot cheaper" will suffice. :giggle:
For future ref, there is no such word as 'alot' :thumbsup:
sprouty76
18 Aug 09#16
Just to clarify, this will give you something like Lucozade energy, not Lucozade Sport - you'd need to add salts for that.
chillking
18 Aug 09#17
1#,its no really hot,since this is the normal price,I buy them regularly in Boots,etc,whereer is a bit cheaper at the time
2#.,this is mono sacharids,unlike the "sugar" which is poli-sacharid.(absorves easily)
Goes pretty much into your bloodstream quite instantly thus giving you energy fast,but if you don't need them (you aren't making exercises or work) it will transform into fat fast.
That's why I am horrified seeing overweight girls surping Lucozade for fun,whilst doing nothing really..
fanny
18 Aug 09#18
thanks just got some of this 4 my o/h hes doin a half marathon in oct:thumbsup:
calathea
18 Aug 09#19
add a pinch of salt and you can make it isotonic too
SunTzu
18 Aug 09#20
At the medical blog WebMD, they have a DIY formula for making a rehydration drink to administer to a person sick with the flu or other dehydrating illness. The formula is roughly the same as any sports drink however, the goal is to get fluid, glucose, and electrolytes into your system.
Measure all ingredients precisely. Small variations can make the drink less effective or even harmful. Mix the following:
* 950 mL water
* ½ teaspoon (2.5 g) baking soda
* ½ teaspoon (2.5 g) table salt
* ¼ teaspoon (1.25 g) salt substitute (potassium-based), such as Lite Salt or Morton Salt Substitute
* 2 tablespoons (30 g) sugar
You can tweak the amount of sugar you want to include and add your own flavors, avoiding artificial dyes and preservatives in the process.
Also, if you do mix it with squash or OJ or whatever, you need to take the original sugar content of the drink into consideration.
lynn44
18 Aug 09#22
I buy this for my partner regulary and noticed Lloyds the chemist had it on offer buy 1 get 2nd half price also superdrug and boots all do same offer time to time
alternate
18 Aug 09#23
Maybe the cold voters were offended by this use of the written word "Alot alot more cheaper" :smile:
csiman
18 Aug 09#24
:giggle:
chocky
18 Aug 09#25
I used this in water when hiking across the Sahara Desert a couple of years ago - fab stuff - gave me the energy to reach the other side (of the desert) :smiley:
dr.met.ty
18 Aug 09#26
seems you can get glucose powder for the same price from various places like ABC pharmacy, millbry hill etc. also available from some brewing and wine making places for £1.30 per kilo.
No expert on gym/power/bulk sessions, but if you're looking for rehydration/energy drink for endurance stuff such as running, biking etc I mix
1 part maple syrup
1 part lemon juice (out of a bottle is fine)
dilute with water to taste and depending on how much hydration/energy you need. I usually mix it with water by 10-20 times. If it's really hot and i'll be sweating a lot i may add a pinch of table salt.
Tastes great - dirt cheap and not full of the usual crp you get in energy drinks - aspartame etc etc
I always use this on the bika and have survived few triathlons on it.
Maple syrup is a long chain slow release carbohydrate which is best for endurance stuff
Hope it helps someone
redjay1
18 Aug 09#29
Any thoughts on using this with creatine powder?
biolew
18 Aug 09#30
£1.53 for 500g at co-op works out cheaper than this deal.
If you are buying in bulk 'bulkpowders.co.uk' do 10kg for £14.99 not incl. delivery, or price match 'myprotein' with bulk suppplements and get 10kg for £14.95, with delivery £3.95 works out £1.89/kg. and with all them 5% off first order codes around you can get that down to £1.80/kg.
psd99
18 Aug 09#31
This is luke warm for me
biolew
18 Aug 091#32
Yes it is recommended to take creatine with dextrose/glucose, that is why a lot of the creatine products come pre-combined as a product including dextrose. IMO you get a better value for money if you buy the two products seperately and mix them yourself, and you are more in control of doses and what you are taking.
DontRun
18 Aug 09#33
I aggree, it's normally cheaper to buy pure creatine powder then you can just buy your own glucose powder (like this) dirt cheap. Plus you have the added advantage of being able to control how much creatine/glucose you consume and the option of having one without the other
nasir_glasgow
18 Aug 09#34
any good with protein powders?
Matt.Wild to nasir_glasgow
18 Aug 09#37
Yes. As said before in the thread it will help with an insulin spike that will shuttle the protein into your body. Ideal straight after weights it'll get it into you within the 30 min anabolic window and increase repair by 200% compared to on its own.
BeginHunter
18 Aug 09#35
Wow. Discussions, discussions. To start, I've now edited the deal text for all the lecturers of grammar on here by deleting the alot alot wording. I suppose that's what makes our country so great, our need to correct our fellow englishman, no wonder we're looked upon as snobbish. Oh and though alot isn't actually a word, it should either be spelt a lot or allot for different reasons, if you google it you'll find millions of pages which do include the non-existing word alot. On to the next poster who feels there's no need for glucose in the exercise world because it's just a glorified sugar, you only need but look around and see that generally all sports people in generally all fields use glucose enriched drinks while training and before and after strenuous exercise. Plus it is proven scientifically that glucose is more beneficial than sugar for strenuous exercise, though it is a strand of sugar. Lastly, to the people asking the question 'is this a deal?', I do feel personally that this is a deal, though it isn't about the saving you can make from buying one box of glucose one place to buying another box somewhere else, its more about a money saving alternative to buying branded glucose enriched drinks, so in turn would be classed as a bargain/deal. Thanks everyone to making this thread so eventful. LOL (not an actual word but 318 million hits on google).
Matt.Wild
18 Aug 092#36
Good. Dextrose will shuttle it into your system and get it into in the anabolic window (30 mins post exercise). Dextrose and creatine is what you see people paying £30 for 1kg tubs when they are buying £5-10 worth of raw powder just because it says "Mega Ultra Grow Power 3000" :-D
Matt.Wild
18 Aug 09#38
Since its chemically the same as blood sugar so no conversion need, so straigth in :thumbsup:
rolandscull
18 Aug 09#39
While it's a good idea to let people know the benefits/cost savings of buying straight glucose (heat added) it is simply not the same as a decent sports drink such as Lucozade sport. Glucose is but just one ingredient it has.
Loss of fluid and reduction of the body's carbohydrate stores (glycogen stores in the muscles) are the two major causes of fatigue and reduced performance. Decent sports drinks are formulated to tackle both of these problems with carbohydrate to fuel the muscles and fluid and electrolytes (sodium and potassium salts that muscles use to function) to maintain hydration in the body.
Isotonic drinks mean it contains roughly the same concentration of particles as the body's blood plasma helping to encourage faster absorption into the body than higher carbohydrate drinks such as carbonated soft drinks or fruit juices.
So while taking Glucose is great for a quick energy boost, it is in no way similar in performance and function to that of a good quality sports drink.
BeginHunter
18 Aug 09#40
Do you work for lucozade by any chance? Lol. Fair point though. But as you said this is a good alternative in the matter of cheapness if you need a quick fix of energy.
rolandscull
18 Aug 09#41
LOL. No, but it's pretty good stuff for a mass-market product.
Matt.Wild
18 Aug 09#42
But then making a comparitive product for yourself is still very cheap, adding the extra's cost pence and gives you 10x the amount for the same price.
rolandscull
18 Aug 09#43
Maybe comparative. But not the same. Plus it's a pain in the **** and will taste like cack. ;-)
rolandscull
18 Aug 09#44
Talking of taste, anybody tried ZipVit's ZV7 - Energy Gel?
Now that tastes like cack! It literally made me sick. But it is good stuff.
mentar
18 Aug 09#46
Thanks OP! I've always avoided energy drinks cause they taste awful, never bothered to look at their constituents, but now that you let me know I'll give it a try. I really need some quick energy boosters for when I do Parkour as it's a killer. Heat and rep added
Opening post
Thought I'd bring this secret to everyones attention who uses this site and who uses energy drinks for one reason or another. There's no need to pay out £20+ a month (if your one of those people like me who was spending £5 a week at least on energy drinks for the gym or training)., all you need to do is purchase some glucose powder!
You can buy it at most supermarkets and boots, superdrug etc, usually in packs at around 450 grams and usually around £1.40 for a box. This tends to last me at least a month and thats the powder 5 times a week (5-6 teaspoons mixed in with my 750ml squash drink). As I said it can save people money who buy energy drinks alot. Hope some of you find this useful.
Top comments
Other sugar types include your basic refined sugars (which can be brown/white/granulated/fine etc) and the others for sports drinks like maltodextrin, waxy maize starch and the like of Vitargo.
So no, its not simply a way of saying sugar. Oh and try and drink a glass of refined sugar - all gritty and nasty - this will blend into water with a few shakes.
Hope that helps...
Fructose(50g) has a G.I of around 20 it is metabolised slowly and is ideal for diabetics.
Glucose(50g) has a G.I of around 85 it is metabolised quickly and is ideal for sportspeople.
All comments (47)
Isn't "glucose powder" just a silly way of saying "sugar"?
Other sugar types include your basic refined sugars (which can be brown/white/granulated/fine etc) and the others for sports drinks like maltodextrin, waxy maize starch and the like of Vitargo.
So no, its not simply a way of saying sugar. Oh and try and drink a glass of refined sugar - all gritty and nasty - this will blend into water with a few shakes.
Hope that helps...
> this will blend into water with a few shakes.
Right, so it's caster sugar. If you want it to dissolve easier, just use warm water. All it does is provide energy (i.e. calories) in a form that's easy to absorb, so any sugar will do. Might as well save even more money and just get a bag of bog standard Tate & Lyle.
On a slightly different note - doesn't that make exercising rather pointless? You spend all that time burning up calories to get fit, then put 'em all back on again with a sugary drink (not to mention the damage it does to your teeth).
Fructose(50g) has a G.I of around 20 it is metabolised slowly and is ideal for diabetics.
Glucose(50g) has a G.I of around 85 it is metabolised quickly and is ideal for sportspeople.
And no smarty pants, it does not render exercises useless. When you exercise, you damage muscle. It needs repairing. When you combine a simple sugar (such as glucose, vitargo or WMS) with protein the insulin spike will shuttle the proetin into the muscle giving 200% more protein to the musle rather than drinking protein on its own without a transport. A simple sugar shuttle is quite important as this 200% increase is available for about 30 mins post exercise.
ha ha ha that is a ludicrous thing to say, as long as you do not swill it like mouthwash trust me there will be no damage to your teeth!
I think you're brain may be a tad damaged though.
Repped!
Infact, the exact figures are:
Table sugar or refined sugar (sucrose) has an intermediate GI value (about 60-65). This is due to the fact that it's a disaccharide (double sugar) comprising one glucose molecule (GI value 100) plus one fructose molecule (GI value 19).
The higher the GI figure, the more readily it will be absorbed. Thus glucose is about 35-40% more effective. Oh its one HELL of a lot less sweet, makes it far more drinkable, if such a word exists.
But is this a deal, i.e. Sainsbury are selling this cheaper than other suppliers or is this more of a money saving tip?
Not gonna vote cold or anything, just curious.
Partly reason for the glucose drinks is the flavour is nice like lucasaze orange/lemon.
"Alot alot more cheaper"
"A lot cheaper" will suffice. :giggle:
For future ref, there is no such word as 'alot' :thumbsup:
2#.,this is mono sacharids,unlike the "sugar" which is poli-sacharid.(absorves easily)
Goes pretty much into your bloodstream quite instantly thus giving you energy fast,but if you don't need them (you aren't making exercises or work) it will transform into fat fast.
That's why I am horrified seeing overweight girls surping Lucozade for fun,whilst doing nothing really..
Measure all ingredients precisely. Small variations can make the drink less effective or even harmful. Mix the following:
* 950 mL water
* ½ teaspoon (2.5 g) baking soda
* ½ teaspoon (2.5 g) table salt
* ¼ teaspoon (1.25 g) salt substitute (potassium-based), such as Lite Salt or Morton Salt Substitute
* 2 tablespoons (30 g) sugar
You can tweak the amount of sugar you want to include and add your own flavors, avoiding artificial dyes and preservatives in the process.
DONT GIVE IT TO CHILDREN UNDER 12!
http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/rehydration-drinks?navbar=hw86827
http://www.nutrecare.co.uk/special_detail.asp?prod_id=1281
1 part maple syrup
1 part lemon juice (out of a bottle is fine)
dilute with water to taste and depending on how much hydration/energy you need. I usually mix it with water by 10-20 times. If it's really hot and i'll be sweating a lot i may add a pinch of table salt.
Tastes great - dirt cheap and not full of the usual crp you get in energy drinks - aspartame etc etc
I always use this on the bika and have survived few triathlons on it.
Maple syrup is a long chain slow release carbohydrate which is best for endurance stuff
Hope it helps someone
If you are buying in bulk 'bulkpowders.co.uk' do 10kg for £14.99 not incl. delivery, or price match 'myprotein' with bulk suppplements and get 10kg for £14.95, with delivery £3.95 works out £1.89/kg. and with all them 5% off first order codes around you can get that down to £1.80/kg.
Loss of fluid and reduction of the body's carbohydrate stores (glycogen stores in the muscles) are the two major causes of fatigue and reduced performance. Decent sports drinks are formulated to tackle both of these problems with carbohydrate to fuel the muscles and fluid and electrolytes (sodium and potassium salts that muscles use to function) to maintain hydration in the body.
Isotonic drinks mean it contains roughly the same concentration of particles as the body's blood plasma helping to encourage faster absorption into the body than higher carbohydrate drinks such as carbonated soft drinks or fruit juices.
So while taking Glucose is great for a quick energy boost, it is in no way similar in performance and function to that of a good quality sports drink.
Now that tastes like cack! It literally made me sick. But it is good stuff.