There's a link in the previous comments that is dead, but this article has a lot about vegan bodybuilding:

http://eternityathletics.com/nutrition/vegan-bodybuilding

Which Tescos are these??? I've tried a few and not found them.

Beans are high in protein, if i remember correctly kidney beans being the highest in percentage of protein per 100g of the bean family

can anyone recommend good protein source (other than shakes) for a vegetarian?
and dont say eggs! thats what i eat anyway!

The bloke was being trained by Vince Gironda and it was Vince who had put the bloke on the extra protein diet. It was a long time ago that I read the article so can't remember any more details, not even sure what the quick muscle mass fix was needed for, not too sure whether steroids were used either, (not my cup of tea).

I must admit I used to eat a hell of a lot of egg whites with two or three yolks added. Probably got through a couple of dozen eggs a day.:-D I much prefer the chicken though, or Turkey.
Personally I use myproteins true whey protein powder and Tropicana Great Stuff for recovery.
I also used Tropicana Body Mass and T Max, but sadly neither of these are available any more, worked great for me, don't know why they were stopped. :disappointed:

If you get a dodgy stomach on whey try whey isolate.

Matt, have i seen you on muscletalk?

Fair enough. Like I say the avi is me so I like to think I know my work.

As for the amino tabs - waste of time for that idiot. Protein is essentially the amino acids he's taking, so a good diet with a good mixture of chicken, tuna, milk, eggs, whey etc etc will give him all he needs...

All the best :thumbsup:

[url]www.bulkpowders.co.uk[/url] prices now higher:
1kg (2.2lb) Tub (£10.99)
2.5kg (5.5lb) Tub (£19.99)
5kg (11lb) Tub (£34.99)
10kg (22lb) (2 x 5kg Tub) (£69.98)
20kg (44lb) (4 x 5kg Tub) (£137.99)
20kg (44lb) Bag (£134.99) :x

Probably 'poisoning' was too strong a word. Sorry!
I can't substantiate anything I've said because i read it all in bodybuilding mags during the 90's. I tend to ignore anything the newspapers prints and base my knowledge on articles in magazines although I haven't bought or read any in over ten years as I had an eight year break from training and have only just got back into it about 20 months ago.
I did read an article years ago about someone on intensive training who was taking a hundred Amino acid tablets a day on top of food (extreme I know) for a week and then detoxing the following week.
I've never had any trouble with gut/digestive tract, it's no different now at 46 to what it was at 26 or 16. Perhaps I'm just fortunate :smiley:.
I read in a bodybuilding mag the pros of larginine years ago and have taken it ever since when training and consuming extra protein. Plus there are always the advantages in the bedroom too. :w00t:

or crusha milkshake

Add nesquick flavour powder to unflavoured whey and it tastes fine.

To me the word poison suggeststo me (in a very emotive manner I may add!) you are making the point/suggestion it will be damaging them - not so.

Of course as you age, your digestive tract will also age, making the absorbtion of anything more difficult, this is not however down to your kidneys, this is down to your gut/digestive tract. You are making up the fact that the irregularities are kidney based. Do you have/can you back up your claims with any studies showing your claims?

There is/are no studies anywhere that suggests that I can find that have concluded what you are saying. There was an article in 2003 in the awful Daily Mail that suggested high protein diets in women were damaging (from a survey, not study, when 1600 women were questioned about their diets) but in all subsequent studies, no link has been made.

Trust me, I take body building very seriously hence i've always endevoured to ensure i'm as healthy as possible whilst doing so. I apologose if it appears i'm picking you out and making fun or the like but I don't like mistruths from hearsay being propergated as the real truth when it is not the case.

nice one mate, lots of good information rep to Matt.Wild and a few others for the other links and advice.

I've been using myprotein for 2 years myself i recently ordered 5kg of strawberry impact whey for a nice £56 really good stuff one of the first orders i made was for 10kg of unflavored whey which i managed to get around 5kg finished theres still 5kg left but its out of date by about 4 months now thinkin i should probably chuck it away thats alot of protein powder going to waste :disappointed:

I didn't say it damaged the kidneys, the spots and bowel irregularities are the kidneys way of dealing with the protein be it because of high intake or your body just disliking a certain brand. I've tried a few different brands of Whey protein and never had any adverse reactions. (I'm now 46). I usually find that apart from a touch of wind initially after changing brands it settles down after a week or so.

Everyone is different. Get the smallest volume first ie. 500g packet/tub if available and test it out. Different types of Protein to try out also ie. Micellar Casein, Isolate & concentrate

:-D :oops:

Ok then.

Fact is that there are no studies that have ever shown a high protein diet causing kidney damage in persons with normal kidney function. Only people who already have a pre-existing kidney condition need to be concerned with keeping their protein in check.

The benefit of having a powder thats been formulated for taste and mixing over an unflavoured one, is that its simple and convenient. Half my unflavoured whey went down the sink because I just run out of things to do with it and I was taking cnp recovery to the gym in a shaker. These days I've cut down on whey supplements due to the chinese milk scandal.

I was thinking of side affects perhaps this is a bit premature. My example comes from one of my friends product. I think it was from a company called USN now it worked great for him.

He gave me around around 10 servings it tasted fine no problem but 3 days later I started to get these spots on my arms and then my bowel movement become irregular.

My point is I wish these companies did free samples so that you can see if the product gives you any problems. If I got 5kg and the the first 60g gave me problems I would be very unhappy.

I second this offer. Was just about to suggest this offer also. It's brilliant! Tastes great unflavoured when added to semi skimmed milk to. 4.4kg and its tubbed.

is the brand i now always use - and always unflavoured.

Horse Tranks and Myoplex with Oats!
Does your body wonders lol :stuck_out_tongue:

I normally buy this: -

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=100

Not an expert. Am I wasting my money? Would like some comments.

I don't think I have had unflavoured whey probably wouldn't want to either lol


so what do you lot have?

I've been taking myprotein whey

Erm why? Whey is whey. Also myprotein or sport-nutrition is 10lbs for around £30. You are getting 5lbs worth of whey for the same cost and almost half the amount? How is that a bargain?

Ha ha, went to tesco and the prices are £18 each and even had them scanned at £18 each. At £4 it blows away anything from myprotein thats for sure.

http://www.bulkpowders.co.uk/product.php?xProd=276

is that stuff actually any good?


Looks like a great deal there the price is ludicrous.

Go to http://www.myprotein.co.uk and scroll down to the price match box on the home page. Then copy and paste:

[url]www.sports-nutrition.net[/url] (for 4.4kg unflavored for £27.90 delivered)
or
[url]www.bulkpowders.co.uk(5kg[/url] for £29.89)

Unfortunately both of these are out of stock at the moment but they should be back soon. I just ordered 4.4kg again Friday and received it today:)

Personally I use myprotein unflavored and I love it. Good stuff imo and add oats in for your carbs and you got a good shake:thumbsup:

is this the same as creatine...........
is it flavorless

Will keep an eye out for this one next time I go to Tescos. Although it should probably come with a warning sticker stating it tastes disgusting.

I order from myprotein too.

I normally order the unflavoured bulk 5lb bagd for £16. Just ordered the flavoured strawberry £21 tastes very nice.

ON contains a lot of sugar based carbs - lots of . You are much better off making your own from whey protein, semi skimmed milk, oats, a little dextrose, banana and peanut butter and flavour of your own choice. That way you have a mixture of quickly absorbed protein and slow, quickly absorbed carbs and slow - meaning you get a good release of nutrients as of when you need. Cheaper too.

Hmm still a good deal, if you can actually find/get it, but 545g won't last long!

If anyone wants to put on Mass then try 'Serious Mass' by ON, you CANNOT FAIL to put weight on if you take this with a good diet and training program (Max OT for example). I take half a serving in the morning, and half at night, but both with a bit extra protien via Reflex Instant Whey. half a serving has 25g protien, 125g of carbs and loads of other stuff. 600 cals. I really struggle to put Mass on but this stuff worked for me! Helped me up to my target 4000+ cals a day.

Whey protein is whey protein.

Better and cheaper still (made by Reflex) http://www.sports-nutrition.net/store.php?sub=3&id=66

£28 inc delivery for 10lb of flavourless whey. Add flavour to suit or just drink it plain (I do, with 100g of oats, nice 600 cal top up meal, add a couple of scoops of peanut butter and banana and you have a 900 cal meal with plenty of proteins, carbs and essential fatty acids.

Not a bad price for Promax esp from the likes of Tesco etc


But as said above, your as well buying in bulk.

I recommend MyProtein or All-in-one. They both price match each other, so your always getting a good deal and the unflavoured stuff is of high quality and mixes very easily in my shaker bottle. Also tastes fine with water, just make sure its very cold.

:-D

Good deal for Promax if you can find it - works out cheaper than all discount supplement brands at 2.2kg.

Personally, I wouldn't touch the 5kg 80% Whey with a bargepole - poor quality protein blend. I use myprotein Hurricane XS (when I know I need to save cash) or PHD iso-synergy 7 (when I'm feeling flush with cash).

Most proteins are much of a muchness, but get the highest whey protein isolate %age and look out for aspartame sweeteners.

My Protein seem to get good reviews on various web sites for their products - from what I've read, they are comparable to Maximuscle but cheaper (most companies seem to be). Not read about the other company listed.

Looks like a good deal on PROMAX though, I'll have to pop into local Tesco when passing.

Are these better or just cheaper?:smiley:

Yeah - its the 5kg multiples that beat the larger sizes strangely.

the single 5kg tubs are £29.99 on special offer

just add 4 of them to basket

if i could find a store near me ( portsmouth) i would stock up. great deal if u can find it. anyone near pompey and find some -please reply to this post saying what store :thumbsup:

Guys Promax is good stuff and this deal deserves heat, Myprotein is also decent

Can get 4.4kg unflavored on myprotein.co.uk for £28 so this isnt that hot. More warm as its cheap compared to the price before.

I will check if they have this tomorrow.

Its a HOT price - but if you are stocking up - try this...

20 kilos for £119.96 with free postage, or in 5 kilo multiples for £29.99, but with a fiver postage up to £100.





http://www.bulkpowders.co.uk/product.php?xProd=276

I have been using this company for a couple of years since TMoF in Dublin disappeared and cannot fault them.

http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/protein-powders/impact-whey-protein/

opps beatern to it, personally use this:

http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=5719

myprotein.co.uk is better quality and cheaper

I found this in my local in Bedford; best to check in store!!

what store did you find it in? i showed my husband and hes been ringing round but have yet to find it in stock and they say the price on screen is £18 so i think it could be a case of that store no longer selling it.......

I would check the exp date on this. U normally find when proteins reduced its got a short date, I wouldnt touch Maximoney witha barge pole anyway ;-)

I use to use EAS products al the time, but I use myprotein.co.uk, great prices and products on there :smiley:

Great deal, whats the expiry date?. Can't see the deal online, the nearest Tesco to me is rubbish, so wont have this.