To answer some questions on here

Who manufactures the panel? - The panel is Hisense's own panel (native refresh is 60HZ (400Hz SMR) on this model and 8Bit FRC) - please bear in mind this is only an entry level 4K - if you need higher specs look at the K700

Is there more than one panel? - Some models may have slightly different panels but this does not apply to the 55k321

Is it good for gaming? - With the latest software input lag is measured at 50ms in game mode which is reasonable. For reference the 65k700 is 32ms

YouTube only buffers in HD - YouTube will buffer in 4K on the next update which will happen around May.

Does this model support HDR? - No (Although local playback support might be added in a future update but this will not have any impact on picture quality

Is the EC591 and K321 the same TV? - Yes they are exactly the same

Another Tip - HDMI ports 1 & 2 are HDMI 1.4a. Only ports 3 & 4 support HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2

Hope this helps :wink:

​If the BBC said it I'd believe the opposite!

Just to remind everyone the stuttering issues mentioned above do not affect this model. It is an issue that affects some other models but will be resolved in the next major update. These updates will be provided on our website as downloadable USB updates prior to the OTA release for those that desperately need them

Yes because they are technology experts....

Come on hisense.pull your fingers out.and sort out all the problems now....not in a few months time...after all..without us..you won't have a business...

Hi. I have LTDN55K321 TV. I am very impressed so far (about 3/4 months with it now) I am having Sky Q fitted to utilise the 4K capabilities more fully in a week or so. I came across the HDCP problem last week and contacted Hisense support to question whether my telly was compliant with the requirements and, contrary to what I had researched (and read above about HDMI Ports 3 + 4 being suitable for HDCP) I was told that NO the ports are not compliant with HDCP and won't be until an update is installed. The update has been out for 10 days, as of yesterday (Friday 26th August 2016)
I am very confused as I have seen on a couple of reputable websites that indeed ports 3 + 4 are HDCP compliant.
I just hope Sky works. Can you put my mind at rest?

Documented where please. Do you have links? thx

Is the 10% discount still on?

Perhaps you could post over at AVF instead of here, that seems to be where the most people are and where the problems are discussed, doesn't really require much resources does it?

I really does irk me the fact you claim resources are an issue for Hisense yet they are happy and willing to have massive sponsorship deals this summer for major sporting events to sell their stuff.

And also you now asking for peoples model number/soft version etc and videos of the issue, yet you have clearly stated many times recently that the stutter issue has actually been fixed, with these latest comments I am highly doubtful that is the case and there almost seems some desperation creeping in.

If the issue was fixed as you say then why do you need all this info and videos of peoples sets showing the stutter?

does anyone know what the latest firmware number is please? I'm on V00.01.00a.F1118 but haven't updated it manually yet.

stutter is there on my 720 still, there is no new firmware on their site either

Currently unable to reproduce the stutter.

I'd updated the firmware but it's not occurred again since I powered down the TV, unplugged the Nvidia Shield TV Hdmi cable, powered everything up and plugged it all back in again.

Very happy at the moment.

Picture is incredible with the AV forums suggested settings and my own tweaks (for some reason it looks better to my eyes using the AV forum settings but the "Cool" filter instead of the "Warm". Was just too dark otherwise).

As said people have sent videos in from various models i believe, And I agree with others, the goal posts are being moved and I Feel that its taking to long now for something that should work.

It was rumored on avforums from a someone that went to germany on a calibration thing, that he had spojke to a german hisesne engineer and that these tvs was running really old tech inside and that they would not be able to fix the issues with these tvs due to that, Is that the case........

Chris I feel we need to clarify something here, you've asked people to send a video showing the stutter issue, is that just for owners of certain models? I too am quite surprised at this turn of events to be honest, if hisense have seen this themselves and even fixed it from what you've said previously then why the need for people to send videos of it now, that just seems irrelevant surely? And I'm also very concerned that you now seem to be implying it's only fixed on the xt910 at the moment, now obviously I would expect the same fix to work on the K720 etc so why not try it on the K720 and just tell us that it's fixed on that as well? This is all becoming a bit of a pantomime now I'm afraid and to ask us to just have patience is ridiculous, we've been waiting since November now Chris, no other manufacturer would have taken this long to fix so many issues some of which would seem on the face of it to be fairly simple to resolve e.g. stretching videos to fill the screen in the media player.
Anyway please clarify whether you need video of stuttering on e.g the K720, I'll put one on YouTube at the same time I post my review of the K720 on there if you do, already posted videos of the stutter on the XT910 e.g. https://youtu.be/i1JlzLpOP6M or https://youtu.be/1OFFCF7qRCQ (not the best examples I admit).

Might I suggest that if you haven't done so already you speak to someone as high up as needs be and let them know what a disaster this whole episode is becoming for hisense's reputation and to put whatever resources are necessary onto it and get things sorted out asap and preferably this month because as has been said 4k UHD bluray players are available in a week or two and people should fully expect to be able to use them issue free on a 4k TV.

​Thanks

In an email I received from you, you stated that you believed they had tested a fix for the XT910 and K720/K700. Now you're saying it's only the XT910, so which is it?

I will say that I seriously would rather know if you can't fix it and get another TV (maybe that's what Hisense are trying to prevent?) than be strung along with a firmware update that has been pushed back several times now

Your products are mostly good, my K720 has a brilliant picture but HDMI 2.0 is broken and it's not a valid 4K TV now. I have an inkling that you cannot fix the stutter, reason been how prevalent it is - I've tried practically every motion trick and setting I know of and this stutter is just too aggressive.

Family and friends have seen this TV and wanted one and I've had to tell them not to buy as Sky Q/BT Ultra HD/Many future devices won't work. Either your software engineers are not good enough to code a fix (if there is one) or they're lazy- now which is it?

If you can't do the fix it, will you swap it out for a 2016 model? thank you for the communication

Because we have not seen the stutter on the K321 series before. I do not work for the R&D department - That is based in Germany and China. All I can do is report the issues to them. We have been testing a fix but this is only for the XT910. It has not been applied to the other models just yet and any evidence of the issue and sources that are affected will possibly assist with a faster resolve. These will be tested for compatability by our R&D. Also, there can be more than one cause for stuttering.

And people are needing this now Chris, I really do feel Hisesne need a rep on avforums to keep and eye on things and speak to people., Is hisense even looking on avforums to see whats happening and that people are returning sets because of the issues.

which model do you have.

As chris hallis(hisense service engineer) has said your model doesn't suffer the judder issues(think your self lucky lol, Lots of people have tried it with many of 4k boxes(upscaling and true 4k and 4k pcs,) and its there at 24/30/50/60hz on all hdmi 2.0 and even on the hdmi 1 and 2 at 4k at 30hz........... This is fact and has been proven on avforums by many users of the 700/720/910.
​this one k321 but 50" , how do you know it's not a problem with your media player

​this one k321 but 50" , how do you know it's not a problem with your media player .

and the fact that the 391 and 591(bottom of the range) dont have stutter is just rubbing salt into the wounds, I paid 4.6k for 2x xt910, and expect better.

Come on Hisense pull your fingers out.

it's the K700/K720/XT 910 that have the problem, Hisense have had long enough to fix the stutter (this has been seen by Hisense as well so if you can't see the stutter then you're just not as perceptive as others)

the update has officially been put back to 2019, it's like waiting for the dragons in game of thrones except they actually turned up :smile:

Chris says June, in June he'll be talking about August and so on. Already looking at other options now and Philips have a 128 zone FALD coming out soon (the 7601) and if they price it right that'll be my next set. It certainly won't be a Hisense after this debacle

Ok so we set up one of these yesterday for a friend.

Have tested it with a Nvidia Shield TV and played 4k content via HDMI - no stutters. Played several different files/movies/demos.

I took around an imported Samsung K8500 and two UHD movies (Sicario and Mad Max FR) - no stutters.

Both sources looked amazing.

I used some new cheapish HDMI cables and then swapped them for some others that had seen better days. No stutters.

Yes i know , i think the inbuilt media player is crap anyway .It always crashes about 7mins into any film regardless of format. I test 4k with windows 10

It will only stutter if playing 4k material via HDMI, you need to understand this, if you play media from the usb port via the internal media player then its fine, same with the built in apps like Netflix, all ok but its when playing 4k via HDMI that the stutter is evident.

What about the rest of us actual owners saying that this paticular model is fine.I was testing a load of demo footage from demo-UHD last night and i couldnt get it to stutter. Even 60fps HDR stuff was playing

Can confirm I've now had stutter via 4K via my Nvidia Shield TV on this set. :disappointed:

May have to send it back if this can't be resolved.

Its even been pointed out by Chris hallas(hisnese service manager) that they have seen the stutter on the k700/720/910(this is via hdmi only) not via the built in netflix app, dont know how your getting amazon, presume via seperate box, and if thats the case lots of users have had issues with stutter and even playing any 4k via seperate boxes.

4K bluray players come out 18th April and Hisense users should be able to purchase one and watch it in true 4k as these tvs straight they support all the big modes in 4k(which doesn't seem to be the case)
This is holding me back from getting bt ultra and will hold me from getting a 4k bluray player, I feel Hisense need to pull it out the bag here.

Regards firmware and people getting it all over world, why does it seem to be the case that the uk was the only ones to get f1211, and this is not even on the Hisense website.

Hisesne need to be making it clear what is coming for these tvs and specific models, I have 2 xt910 in my family and If the stutter doesnt get sorted, Im confident that under consumer law the tv is not fit for purpose and wont conform to the specs if it cant play 4k video judder free and without colour issues.

Is Hisense gonna screw over its early buyers of these tvs.

As andy said why not update bits and bobs at times and not all at once.

Feeling extremely let down that the goal posts keep getting moved further away.

If You asking me well I do not change anything in white balance and colour tuner.Just that what seen on mine screenshot.And is really much much better then out of box.Only on Netflix I have slightly different setting like smooth motion HIGH.
4K on Netflix work awsome,no problem at all.
Have one mate with sony bravia FHD 55" and two others with LG 4K 55" and in my opinion mine have better picture then theirs but mayby its because I spend about 1 hour for finding best settings for me.They propably not.I dont know.

Smartshare or Miracast also work fine from my LG G3 mobile phone,can stream FHD video clips without lags from phone.
HD channels from my sat set top box which is xpeed lx3 are ok,but its depends on which content already are played.I have some bluray rip 720p and 1080p on HDD and the picture is fine.
As said before 4K from Netflix are just superb.Mayby will buy Amazon FTV 4K soon for more fun:)
I dont compare SD channels couse they was made for max 20" tv's.They are just acceptable,but everybody know smaller tv better quality.

This Hisense is very good set in my opinion.

Just to remind everyone the stuttering issues mentioned above do not affect this model. It is an issue that affects some other models but will be resolved in the next major update. These updates will be provided on our website as downloadable USB updates prior to the OTA release for those that desperately need them

Updated my links.Mayby for someone will be ok.
For this is best settings.

Can confirm my 4K - fed by Hdmi - on this particular set is wonderful.

Nvidia Shield TV is working perfectly.

Can't comment on other Hisense sets but this one - the UB55EC591UWTSEU - is absolutely fine.

Thanks for your picture settings. What setting you use for white balance and color tuner?

You really are not getting this at all are you? If you actually read what I, and many others, are talking about, like I pointed out earlier, is to do not with 4k performance, the 4k performance of their sets are wonderful, Netflix etc looks lovely, the issue lies with 4k fed via HDMI, if you simply can't grasp what we are getting at then don't bother replying. I suggest you take a look at the threads on somewhere like Avforums where they go into 100's of pages, every single owner of the model tv affected (K700/710/720, XT910 etc) has the same problem, its very well documented if you bother to read and digest these things.

and there are even more replies here and many many other forums commending the quality and performance of 4k - of which mine works well. so again your simply trolling.

Freeview. The question you have here is relevant for any TV not just this Hisense

Not trolling at all, if you read mine and others comments there are very well documented faults with the K700/720 and XT910 sets which represent the largest portion of the Hisense range, the HDMI 4k stutter issue is even recognised by Hisense themselves.

With that in mind your point is, well pointless.

Is the SD you are referring to SD channels through a sky HD box or just bog standard free view SD.

I'm not sure I could put up with a tv being poor on SD channels through SKY HD and amazing on the HD channels.

I can now add to the list of helpers as I have mine :smiley:

1) SD being poor. the image is the worst quality between SD, HD and UHD, which is an obvious statement anyway. I wouldn't say it's good or bad, I just think it's a normal representation of an SD image, and i'm personally more than happy with it. I don't think a more expensive TV would give a huge boost to this

2) I hooked my Xbox One up and had one go of Fifa last night and it felt absolutely fine. No more or less lag than my previous 1080p set. Bear in mind I've not yet done any software updates to my knowledge (they may have come over the air to which I was unaware)

mine works well with Netflix and amazon video - so it works well. you have any proof other than trolling??

In the comment/reply box there is a picture of photo 6 tabs in next to the smiley button. Click that and then past each line into the pop up window. It should then work.

I'm thinking of picking this up tmrw. Can people who have it please clarify what they mean about poor for SD. I've got a Sky HD box connected but don't currently subscribe to HD channels. I will after this. When people say SD is poor do they mean the SD channels through the Sky HD is poor? As that's quite a few! Also will be hooking up my Xbox one but seems that's fine exspecially since the input lag update.

don't know why images didn't show.

That's mine picture settings for sattelite set top box by hdmi.
on Netflix using slightly different settings.

4K and my Nvidia Shield TV working absolutely fine for me on this set.

YouTube doesn't buffer properly yet mind.

Picture and function wise, this blew the 4K Phillips set I also ordered away.

Head and shoulders above it actually.

What picture settings is everyone is using for this tv?

Regarding the future firmware update stated by hisense employee yes we will wait till may/june for update however if no update still by then then yeah hisense credibility and reputation will be affected on this forum.

do any fellow owners of this set know if it has a "game mode"? I hear this mentioned a lot with modern TVs and just wanted to give it a try to see if I could discern a difference between Game Mode being toggled. (I played a match on Fifa last night on my Xbox One and didn't have any problems whatsoever with input lag etc)

I paid £600 for this set and it is worth every penny. once you manually adjust the settings for the picture it blows any Samsung or panny out the water

At the moment I have the K720, wasn't prepared to buy another XT910 in light of all the issues but wanted a FALD TV and the K720 was a good price on amazon so I bought that with the promise of updates to come to fix the problems.
All I can ask is that you please stress the importance of trying to get some sort of update out this month, June is a long time to wait and with uhd bluray out this month I feel it's important this stutter issue is fixed sooner rather than later. And it really would be nice if some kind of HDR support can be added to the K720 as well, I'm sure the hardware is capable of it and it would be a nice gesture to compensate for the hassle we've had :smiley: Appreciate the communication Chris btw

I understand your frustration Andy but from what I've learnt from software development it takes time and resources to merge different branches, test everything over and over again before releasing the final versions.

The other issue is that when a new OTA is published it is not just the UK sets that are updated - it applies to all of the other European countries too.

Sorry I did forget to mention the EDID fix. I do from time to time receive software versions with these fixes in to test but they are not ones I can share as they will not pick up future software updates via OTA.


Can you remind me which model you have?

I think the thing that's annoying everyone though Chris is that nobody has asked for all these updates to come at once, why can't you drip feed them and fix one thing at a time with an update say once a month slowly getting through the issues one by one rather than having to wait for a big bang that's taking forever? The fact you've mentioned June there worries me, it worries me a lot because if this update was coming in April I would have thought there was a fair degree of confidence by now about that, the fact we're still getting even now 'in reality it could be May or maybe even June' makes me wonder why? Does a fix exist for the stutter issue now yes or no? Does a fix exist for Youtube 4k yes or no? If it does why not just put it out there and at least give owners something to be happy about? What exactly is causing you to say it may be June i.e. what isn't fixed yet or what are you waiting for that could put it back that long? I have serious doubts many people will be prepared to wait till June, I know people on AVForums have said if the update doesn't come by the end of this month they'll be returning their TVs , personally as long as the stutter issue is fixed by the time Sky Q UHD content starts being broadcast I can live with it as it is now although if it's an issue with UHD Bluray I won't be very impressed. Youtube 4k is a nice to have , of more concern is the stretching of video content by the native media player and also the Ultra Smooth Motion setting problems with 4k content. I take it the EDID problem will be resolved in the next update btw?
Surely you can understand people's frustration here Chris, if this update doesn't come this month or if there isn't a definite date by the end of this month then I can't see many people trusting Hisense any longer to be honest and a lot of people will throw in the towel I suspect.

Why on earth did Hisense even think releasing a these sets in the way they currently are is actually acceptable, it's crazy. People are buying a 4k tv that does not work with 4k, I feel for the poor folk that have had their sets for 6 or 7 months and it still does not work as advertised.

Dunno if it helps but I am absolutely loving the screen so far. Tested 1080p mkv, freeview SD and HD my Xbox One all look absolutely outstanding (except sd obviously but even that doesnt look too bad). Well happy so far. Didn't buy it for 4k nor have any content or subscription services so not too bothered by that

The first software release was delayed due to complications with the OTA process but was available via our website prior to the OTA. The OTA issue has now been resolved so software updates should now be released on time.

The update mentioned above will happen. We are aiming for the End of April for this software but in reality it could end up being May or even June.

​I don't have broadcast TV , are we sure that broadcast 4k is actually full 2160p .As we all know about full HD not being so .
Just to give some perspective , the Martian in 4k stutters with my Amazon fire tv box gen 1 (not a 4k box). , it also stutters with the TVs built media player .
On my PC. (R390 gpu) which has the fancy display port to hdmi 2.0 converter it plays like a dream .Network transfer speeds from the NAS avg 65mbps ( so obviously need some decent hardware ) .

If anyone has any links for 4k @ 60fps , il gladly try it .

Yes, if the device is set to 4k output (even playing 1080p content) then you get stuttering, and yes it happens on HDMI 2.0 inputs with decent cables.

Does stuttering happens at 1080p upscaled to 4K? Stuttering even happens on HDMI 2.0 and HDMI 2.0a cables?

Lets hope Hisense release the update soon like the Hisense employee said earlier.

Stutters with the Nvidia Shield when set to 4k output (also the picture doesn't look right when the Shield is set to 4k output). There is a problem with the EDID info being wrong as far as I know so most of the Hisense 4k TVs don't report the correct data to devices attached to them. Also stutters with the BT Ultra HD box when set to 4k and unless the promised fix comes I have no doubt it will also stutter with the Sky Q Silver box when set to 4k output.
As regards Emporers comments above about people losing patience, yes people are losing patience and rightly so because it seems impossible to get a straight answer as to what fixes are coming or when and they seem to be taking forever to arrive and keep getting put back, by the sounds of it it could well be May before the next update arrives, and let's not forget the current firmware date we're using is from the 28th November last year!
I've been a big supporter of Hisense TVs, pushing them on Avforums and in a Youtube review I did (which reminds me I need to do a review of the K720...) but it's getting more and more difficult to defend the service we're getting. I still think the products are unbelievable value for money , the K720 especially but the next firmware update is way overdue and I have serious concerns about the speed of the software development and firmware release frequency for Hisense TVs.

Any source via hdmi that outputs 4k, there is a stutter at all framerates although below 30 it seems minor, thus as it is ok for 4k bluray, but for stuff like broadcast 4k which will run at 50/60p then its awful.

What certain sources does the 4K stutter at? Shall I assume CPU not fast enough to run 4K hence stuttering?

No YouTube 4K in next update?

Nothing to do with media players or hdmi cables, its a well documented issue among all of their sets when playing 4k content over 30hz via hdmi. Every set suffers from it, this is why many believe it cant be sorted as it would have by now if it was possible.

There is a very well documented issue with their most of their range, when playing 4k material via HDMI you have a stutter every 6/7 seconds on anything over 30hz, nothing to do with the cable or media player, many have tested with numerous devices and the fault clearly lies with the sets themselves.

​**** , I can play native 4k just fine using my PC .Do these people even have a high quality hdmi cable and a decent media player that can handle 4k ?

In general things are cheap for a reason, I highly doubt hisense pay jin blogs on shopfloor £8+ a hour like you'd have to in a UK plant.

I've been following some of these Hisense sets from various people online and reading other forums, was almost suckered into buying one myself, glad I didn't to be honest, what seems like an eternal wait for most people on a firmware update that was promised last year and is still not available, a lot of folks are thinking that they actually cannot fix these sets with the major issues, 4k stutter over HDMI etc, some believe the HDMI hardware is substandard and just can't work correctly, from the lack of updates and clear info from Hisense I think they could well be right. These sets are cheap for a reason I think, I mean some folks have had their sets for 7 or 8 months and still can't play 4k material properly, especially as they advertise that these sets are fully 4k compliant. I can see a lot of returns to Hisense soon as it appears many are losing patience.

I will list improvements that should be included in the next software update that I am aware of. This update will apply to the K321, K700, K720, XT910 (Including the varying model number)

Fixes:
Stuttering at 4K with certain sources
YouTube will not buffer at 4K

Improvements:
Media Player improvements
Startup speed improvements
UI improvements

Apps:
Amazon Prime Video (To Be Confirmed)

Model Specific:

XT910 - Full HDR Support (To Be Confirmed)

@very452001
This model does not have an ambient light sensor

It does have MEMC frame insertion

Not sure what the bandwidth requirements are for 4K YouTube content but will most likely be around 20mb possibly a bit more

If anyone has any further questions please email [email protected] because I can't actively monitor this page

Hi,

I recently bought this TV and come across your post that you have picture settings better than the AV forums settings link.

I would like to know what settings you use? Much appreciated.

Many Thanks,

Can anyone confirm including the Hisense employee whether this TV has these?:

- Ambient Light Sensor
- BFI (Black Frame Insertion) or a similar Tech, having this does not reduce the resolution while in motion preventing blur in motion.

Also when will the update come out allowing YouTube 4K and what internet speed is required to stream 4K?

Finally is there no way for this TV to do any HDR in the future?

I'm also undecided on this or the Phillips. Would prefer to just get the right one and not to take the wrong one back for the other aha :disappointed: ..

Gone for it !!!!!:confused: thank you OP. Was v close to going for the Philips earlier in the week but £50 more for hisense being the brand swung it......will hope to post up thoughts for anyone who's interested in the next few days

​do you know what else is going to be in the update ?

Also how can you tell when the TV is up scaling as I actually can't tell the difference the difference between Martian 1080p (25gb) and The Martian 4k (50gb ish) .

Also the TV doesn't like to play these latest 4k movie files without stuttering and crashing so I use my pc .

chrishallas87

Hi Chris can I ask is the 65" 710 the same panel as the 720 ( Fald) ?

Thanks

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Should also mention this TV comes with a 2 year manufacturers warranty, serviced in the UK and UK based call center :smiley:

To answer some questions on here

Who manufactures the panel? - The panel is Hisense's own panel (native refresh is 60HZ (400Hz SMR) on this model and 8Bit FRC) - please bear in mind this is only an entry level 4K - if you need higher specs look at the K700

Is there more than one panel? - Some models may have slightly different panels but this does not apply to the 55k321

Is it good for gaming? - With the latest software input lag is measured at 50ms in game mode which is reasonable. For reference the 65k700 is 32ms

YouTube only buffers in HD - YouTube will buffer in 4K on the next update which will happen around May.

Does this model support HDR? - No (Although local playback support might be added in a future update but this will not have any impact on picture quality

Is the EC591 and K321 the same TV? - Yes they are exactly the same

Another Tip - HDMI ports 1 & 2 are HDMI 1.4a. Only ports 3 & 4 support HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2

Hope this helps :wink:

That was probably my fault.

I meant this is the same panel you'll find in many mid-tier LG and Sammy TVs, but neglected to be specific. Apologies.

Never argue with a pigeon and all that...

The old link is to highlight how long they've been doing it mate.

You said "Samsung and LG do not use anyone elses panels in their TV's!"

That's utter tosh (!!!)

They buy a lot in from BOE (and other big panel manufacturers).

That's not "outsourcing".

It would be outsourcing if BOE didn't make panels for most TV manufacturers and if the same panels weren't used in other TVs.

Nobody said LG or Samsung buy from competitors. Just that they use panels from the big Chinese and Taiwanese manufacturers like everybody else in their cheaper sets and that it's perfectly possible to get exactly the same panel in a non-brand TV as you'll also find in an LG and a Sammy.

Somebody failed to post what they thought they were saying! Your comment suggested Hisense make screens for lower/mid range Samsung's and LG's.

One link is from 2008, 8 years ago the 2nd is about outsourcing manufacturing not buying in from a competitor.

Tried this settings and they are not good for me.Mine are more better:)

Richer Sounds used to sell a range of Hitachi TVs which didn't have built in speakers of tuners. Most people add a sound bar or av receiver anyway so a waste of space having built in speakers. Also many people will have Sky or Virgin so no need to use the built in digibox. I'd much prefer to buy just a TV panel and nothing else so it would be as thin as possible.

An observation I made today while watching the F1, Redbull use Hisense TVs/monitors which they mount on the front of the cars when in the garage. Not that this means they're good or bad.

Samsung and LG have been using other manufacturers panels in their mid to low range TVs for ages mate.

All companies do.

LG since at least 2008
http://www.techradar.com/news/television/tv/lg-buys-lcd-panels-from-sharp-what-does-it-all-mean-264564

I believe both Samsung and LG are both currently buying panels from BOE (huge manufacturer of TV panels).

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20150210VL201.html

This Hisense also has a BOE panel. I really should have said this has the same panel that's in a lot of mid/low-range LG and Sammy TVs.

​Somebody doesn't read.I said other companies not Samsung and LG

Utter Tosh! Samsung and LG do not use anyone elses panels in their TV's! You do know how much of the screen manufacturing market they own between themselves yeah?

​I found settings on that forum but didn't seen that.thanks.I will compare that with mine.

I bought this TV today.
But the model what they gave me is Hisense LTDN55K321UWTS.Is that same as 55EC591U?
Out of box the picture is not to good but after about 1hr of tweaks is ok for me.
HD contents are ok,SD crap,but 4K on bulit Netflix app are awesome.
Youtube app can play only HD I think and not 4K.
After tweaks with picture settings colours are really good,blacks are blacks etc.
Search on internet for tips settings for that model.
Cannot blame this TV as for under 500gbp 4K 55" smart functions is reallly good.
I have some firends with sony's,lg's HD or 4K tv's and cannot see the big diffrence except the price(they pay a lot more).

Yes,just seen same on Hisense website.
Thx.

Does it do HDR?

Its the other way round iirc , they produce panels for mid tier range of other companies

30ms ,so the actually pretty good for a tv

Where was this info from? I'd expect Samsung or Chimei Innolux rather than LG and Samsung.

This looks good and good price but was tested on what to buy BBC programme they said poor picture compared to a Samsung and lg they had on

Another set where you're paying for 4K and the 4K picture doesn't compete with decent 1080p panels. Pointless having 4K on this

I have one of the 55" 4K hisense TVs. It's not a bad set, don't expect to have as granular control of the pic settings as a high end sammy/Sony though. Does good enough for gaming, dnla streaming and hd telly is reasonable. Wouldn't punt more than £400 tops though on one - £500 too expensive by a good £100 imo

no good for gaming high input lag

Bought this in the recent 20% off ebay promo, got the maximum £50 off to give a final price of £450. I am on my way to pick it up from my local argos now - doubt I will get the £10 argos voucher as it was via ebay. I will report back on the image quality and the TV in general.

I'll eat my hat!

Try this link

Click Here

It's the Hisense 55EC591U 55 Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV

Argos link not working for me.

What model is this? (Would be useful to include in OP.)

But what if they are.........

I bought a 50 inch Hisense 6 months ago for £280 and it's been great. Smart features are rubbish but I use my PS4 for Amazon, YouTube etc. The picture quality is brilliant for the price and stands up well next to the LCD Sony I had previously.

apparently you can get 1 of 2 different panels - and the samung cheap 4k is aweful (a lot of user reviews)